mck52689 is a liar

[tredvento]

mck52689, gave me a down payment for my car so i was nice and let him use it, then he gave me more money to let people think it was his while he was waiting for his "loan" well he never came through with the cash, and in the mean time blew up my heater core, so i had to bypass that and sell it cheaper

i <3 unreliable people

[CHAOS]

ummmm wut?

[ToTheIX's]

oh snap

[The Captain]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d5/LOL_WUT_IRL.jpg/400px-LOL_WUT_IRL.jpg

[TROLL]

moving this to reviews, but what the hell are you talking about?

[poisonivory]

sounds to me like someone gave him a downpayment to buy his ride. After DP he let the guy use it. The guy gave him more money while waiting for the loan to pan out, but not full payment. While still using the car, the guy damaged it and his loan didn't go through, so OP had to sell the car to someone else for cheaper.

Did I get that right???? lol

[ToTheIX's]

sounds to me like someone gave him a downpayment to buy his ride. After DP he let the guy use it. The guy gave him more money while waiting for the loan to pan out, but not full payment. While still using the car, the guy damaged it and his loan didn't go through, so OP had to sell the car to someone else for cheaper.

Did I get that right???? lol

did you get a headache from deciphering that ?

[TROLL]

don't be nice next time... never a good idea when money is involved.

and yeah thanks for the explanation, i thought we were talking about downpipes here.

[tredvento]

sounds to me like someone gave him a downpayment to buy his ride. After DP he let the guy use it. The guy gave him more money while waiting for the loan to pan out, but not full payment. While still using the car, the guy damaged it and his loan didn't go through, so OP had to sell the car to someone else for cheaper.

Did I get that right???? lol

your dead on excepst its still for sale but cheaper

[Keeper1343]

damn dude that sucks.... but how did he cause it to blow? or you think he is just backing out of it cause the heater core blew and he doesn't have to fix it?

[olmytsi]

Yeah, in the car world, dp = downpipe lol.

[poisonivory]

i thought we were talking about downpipes here.

thats what i thought at first also...lol

[Vypurr]

You allowed him to have the car while it was still registered to you and under your insurance? You better be keeping his downpayment! Was the downpayment enough to fix the damages?

[scutzi128]

How does one go about blowing a heater core? Sounds like it was about to go.

[pearl]

that was dumb of you.

[assault187]

You kept the downpayment rite?

[frosti108]

How does one go about blowing a heater core? Sounds like it was about to go.


yea its not like its really his fault the heater core blew...

[Nors]

don't be nice next time... never a good idea when money is involved.

and yeah thanks for the explanation, i thought we were talking about downpipes here.

Same after 2 re-readings. I was like he is renting downpipes out??

[~Brian~]

You kept the downpayment rite?

Hopefully he did, but it dosen't sound like it.

[dragonfly2k3]

if you returned his down payment you are retarded.

[KingOfDelco]

whilst i am as thoroughly confused as everyone else, i'm pretty confident the lesson here is:

DON'T "LEND" YOUR CAR TO ANYONE. NOT EVEN YOUR FAMILY. At least, not if you expect to be reimbursed for any damage. You aren't Enterprise rent-a-car...unless you had a contract drawn up, you have no grounds for anything.

edit: wow, i thought DP meant downpipe too. Well, if he gave you a DOWN PAYMENT, the car has transferred ownership (when you were nice enough to let him have it).

You could go to court, but you'd probably lose. You can't PROVE his negligence caused the faulty part...and u have no contract. haven't u ever watched day-time court television?????? this is why all those rednecks are always on those shows arguing about this exact thing.

[Erik]

do you know what a heater core is? I dont think he managed to "blow it" unless he dismantled the climate control system and managed to break it. I think it was just terrible timing which bit you in the ass. dont call someone out for something that was out of the blue.

[tredvento]

sorry in this case dp= down payment

yes i kept the down payment, and i know im a retard, but i think i have the car sold

[JSpecV03]

wtf, i heard his rents forwarded him the money for the dub.

[Vypurr]

He is kinda right...Nobody breaks a heater core...I do agree that if it happened while he had the car that he should have paid for it, but you got the deposit atleast, so get it fixed with that and sell it again. I would NEVER consider giving someone my car while its still registered and insured to me!

[Erik]

you=fail.
and robbie=fail for not explaining the whole situation more clear. at least i understand and could back you up...

i fail? I beg to differ.

[tredvento]

He is kinda right...Nobody breaks a heater core...I do agree that if it happened while he had the car that he should have paid for it, but you got the deposit atleast, so get it fixed with that and sell it again. I would NEVER consider giving someone my car while its still registered and insured to me!

ok no fails except for me for being a nice guy, vr6's dont have rev limiters, taking it past redline over presurises the coolant flow through it, and on the 3rd bend the the bend is a harder turn so it takes the most presure there and blows, it has been happining on vws since mk2s

[2001teg]

Id like to say one thing. Mike did NOT blow up the heatercore, you physically cant do this. Think about how the cooling system works, driving has nothing to do with it. This car was a complete turd ever since he got it. One thing after another went wrong with this thing, and the seller promised it was in good running condition. WRONG. Huge holes in floor board, heater core went. Serp. belt flew off twice, first time after it was bought than another time after seller "fixed it. I personally had to put it back on in the mall parking lot for mike. And I discovered the cause was because the bolt for the tensioner backed out. NO lock tite was used on a moving part!!! A down payment was given on the car, but full payment was not given due to the car being a lemon!!! Would you buy a car that keeps breaking? Driver error was not at cause for the heater core or the serp. belt. Robbie refused to have any of these problems fixed correctly so why whould mike pay to fix them when he has only had the car for 2 weeks? Not to mention there were numerous reports and I personally saw robbie beating the living piss out of this car after mike had given the down payments. I want to remain neutral in this, but there are always two sides to every story so dont be biased with out knowing the facts.

[2001teg]

Think about it, when a car over heats, the pressure in the cooling system sky rockets, do hoses blow or metal pieces blow when this pressure is this high? Not unless there is a weak part in the system. Ex. bulging hose, loose clamp, ect. Bringing a motor to high rpm's would not make pressure go up to the point of where things will break. The only moving part would be the water pump, which is strictly to circulate the coolant through out the cooling system. As long as the car is not overheating there should be no reason for pressure to build to a point at which a heater core blows up. Driver error would cause internal motor problems or transmission problems, not something wrong with the coolant system. IMHO I believe both people were at fault here. Robbie sold this knowing it had problems and did not alert the buyer of any of them. He too lent the car to someone with out changing the tags over.

[2001teg]

And the fact that robbie is withholding the complete 900 dollar downpayment is bull****, a heater core is not that much to replace, especially when he will be doing it himself!

[uh.man.duh.]

ok listen. I dated robbie for three years and witnessed him beat the living sh*t out of the jetta. so don't blame mike for the sh*t that went wrong. you sold the car to him knowing damn well the car was fallng apart. thats why you sold it to him bc you didnt want the hassle of fixing it. I would have backed you up, but then I found out you were running you're f*cking mouth about Ali and I. not cool. so I retract my previous statement. erik i apologize you do not fail. robbie is the one that fails hardcore. oh and by the way, wheres the proof you rebuilt the motor?? bc I know for a fact you didnt do a single thing to that motor. you bought the car the way you see it now! out of all your cars that you have owned, you bought them already modded. maybe you should actually do some work to a car for once instead of taking the easy way out and buying something already modded and then claiming you did the sh*t yourself. I drove to conneticut to get this car and the kid you got it from claimed that the motor was rebuilt. but wheres the proof? oh right, there is none.

[240sxDann]

....sick burn.

[The Captain]

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/1081/tntwkdoe7.gif

[Erik]

erik i apologize you do not fail.

i was just pumping e-iron :mrgreen:

[tredvento]

ok listen. I dated robbie for three years and witnessed him beat the living sh*t out of the jetta. so don't blame mike for the sh*t that went wrong. you sold the car to him knowing damn well the car was fallng apart. thats why you sold it to him bc you didnt want the hassle of fixing it. I would have backed you up, but then I found out you were running you're f*cking mouth about Ali and I. not cool. so I retract my previous statement. erik i apologize you do not fail. robbie is the one that fails hardcore. oh and by the way, wheres the proof you rebuilt the motor?? bc I know for a fact you didnt do a single thing to that motor. you bought the car the way you see it now! out of all your cars that you have owned, you bought them already modded. maybe you should actually do some work to a car for once instead of taking the easy way out and buying something already modded and then claiming you did the sh*t yourself. I drove to conneticut to get this car and the kid you got it from claimed that the motor was rebuilt. but wheres the proof? oh right, there is none.

, mark the down payment was a mere 250, NOT 900. and how does a car i drive daily for 2 years turn into a lemon the day i let someone use it?

amanda not once did i talk **** on you i have no reason to! and i know you of all people dont belive mike. second off all i never posted in my sale thread about a rebuild for the fact that i have no proof, i said its a strong running 175k vr6, and out of curiosity, how many on here with built cars drive them for what they are? if you wanna call it beating a car then fine, i belive it was you driving the car when you mis shifted causing rivets to break on the pp. so talk about beating a car? never said i did any of the work, therefore you post is completely irrelevant

to the rest of you im not posting to argue with anyone, i was just teling you my experience with mike and telling you not to trust him. i told him what the car was from the get go and he was fine with it. i didnt post here for people to bash on my car but thank you

[JSpecV03]

i wander how long its gonna be before Troll and the other Mods lock this one down.....

[DPancoast]

Bringing a motor to high rpm's would not make pressure go up to the point of where things will break. The only moving part would be the water pump, which is strictly to circulate the coolant through out the cooling system. As long as the car is not overheating there should be no reason for pressure to build to a point at which a heater core blows up. Driver error would cause internal motor problems or transmission problems, not something wrong with the coolant system.

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/hahaha-wut.jpg

[bmatyeah]

LOL . I wish more TSTers knew these people/car its clearly more hilarious.

NDUBB LAME.

[tredvento]

Think about it, when a car over heats, the pressure in the cooling system sky rockets, do hoses blow or metal pieces blow when this pressure is this high? Not unless there is a weak part in the system. Ex. bulging hose, loose clamp, ect. Bringing a motor to high rpm's would not make pressure go up to the point of where things will break. The only moving part would be the water pump, which is strictly to circulate the coolant through out the cooling system. As long as the car is not overheating there should be no reason for pressure to build to a point at which a heater core blows up. Driver error would cause internal motor problems or transmission problems, not something wrong with the coolant system. IMHO I believe both people were at fault here. Robbie sold this knowing it had problems and did not alert the buyer of any of them. He too lent the car to someone with out changing the tags over.

dude you can belive what you want, i have no problem with you, but i will tell you i drove the ca all of 5 miles since i took the payment, so i doubt you saw me beating on it, mike lied to everyone saying he bought it, also lied to me claiming he had the car places he did not, he drilled holes directly into my front bumper, that belive me isnt cheap to replace, and he also offerd to steal your type r head to give to me, then claimed he traded you his old laptop for it? he personaly told me and my cousin kevin to lie to you, i am not holding out on a single person, i am fixing the hole in the floorboard tomorrow, and have a new heatercore in the mail, and am fixing that before the sale goes through with the new buyer sat. also the serp belt came off on me due to the tensioner bearing sizing, also a common problem on vr6's and i bought a brand new tensioner and serp belt, the tensioner came pre assembled from advance auto, i have receipts for both.

[tredvento]

LOL . I wish more TSTers knew these people/car its clearly more hilarious.

NDUBB LAME.

you sir do not know me, and what does my town have to do with anything?

[JSpecV03]

i happen to like the car personally, but im not getting in the middle of this. ive know robbie for quite some time now and mike for a just a short while and neither have done anything wrong to offend me in anyway so there cool in my book.
i think you too should sit down and talk this out like adults and come to a simple, reasonable solution, in my opinion.
besides, who wants/needs drama amungst friends and others anyway?

[tredvento]

i happen to like the car personally, but im not getting in the middle of this. ive know robbie for quite some time now and mike for a just a short while and neither have done anything wrong to offend me in anyway so there cool in my book.
i think you to should sit down and talk this out like adults and come to a simple, reasonable solution, in my opinion.


thanks john, i would be willing to do so

[DPancoast]

I believe that the crack towards your town is due to the reputation that has been circulating for quite some time.

[JSpecV03]

thanks john, i would be willing to do so

no prob dude.

[tredvento]

I believe that the crack towards your town is due to the reputation that has been circulating for quite some time.

what reputation, most of the kids that claim to live in north wales live in the surrounding towns. and i still dont see the relevance to the post.

[DPancoast]

I apologize, I worded that wrong. It's not really the town, just certain groups of people that hangout and the name comes with said people.

there is no relevance to the post other than the fact that I was stating why he would say something like that.

its not the point.

[2001teg]

i wander how long its gonna be before Troll and the other Mods lock this one down.....


Theres no reason to lock this whatsoever, its being handled in a reasonable way.

I dont know if any of you are grouping me with the "bad group reputation" but NONE of you have have the right to judge me if you are.

Yea, mustang kid you sure talk alot of sh*t for not knowing us.

[Keeper1343]

lets post in a reasonable manner. I hate reading 3 posts in a row by u. Consolitdate it into one post.

[mck52689]

Yea, mustang kid you sure talk alot of sh*t for not knowing us, that vdub is batter than your mustang anyday. I dont care what kind of problems it had

ok so i suppose it is my turn to do so here.... i could give 2 cares about my reputation around here... are you my friends? do i hang with you? then why would i care. i will leave this about the what bs i was fed about this car.


Omgzsooscene(11:21:29 PM): yo if you do get me 3500 cash, ill include the original pistons that came with the care before it was rebuilt.

I Ride Enjoi(11:21:44 PM): how long ago was it rebuilt? and do you have any recipts or boxes for the rebuild?

Omgzsooscene(11:22:03 PM): It has wiseco pistons and scat rods, stock compression but i cleaned and honed the cylinders while i was at it, it runs perfect.

I Ride Enjoi(11:22:19 PM): alright what about the body anything wrong?

Omgzsooscene(11:22:37 PM): The body is mint but it has 2 rust holes that arent bad and havent gone all the way through its like the size of a golf ball nothing serious

I Ride Enjoi(11:22:58 PM): im interested but i need inspection its been out since april dude

Omgzsooscene(11:23:22 PM): i can get it stickers, the cel is because of the cams, and the rust ill fix before i sell you and ill even give you the built tranny for 200 extra

I Ride Enjoi(11:23:47 PM): alright get it inspected with papers and ill buy, everything is good though on the motor right? like no bs play

Omgzsooscene(11:24:15 PM): Nah bro if anything ever goes wrong you know that i know vws like the back of my hand, ive helped rebuild 5 motors and turbo 3 vrs



rant and rave all you want, i dont care what my reputation will be after this is done.

but i put down a 900 dollar deposit, these aim im's were legit and are saved on my computer and will be sent to certain people if they do need actual proof this happened.

this will be my only post as this is ridiculous, i have recieved calls and ims from people saying they saw robbie driving the jetta when in the bill of sale it was noted that if i was not using the car it would sit, well i like that it wasnt sitting and people telling me robbie was murdering it and racing it.

this would also be the funny part of me saying i had you and your cousin lie, when in fact i never once said it, but the fact that you told people to lie and say you werent driving the car which i know is false, but whatever floats your boat.

think what everyone will, i dont need the opinion of others to make me decide how i feel, those who post after this bashing me, enjoy it since it really wont mean 2 ****'s to me.



i was promised the car was rebuilt and sworn up and down the block , i was promised that i would have the help if the car broke down, robbie did tell me the car was rebuilt and was done when the tranny was done, which is a lie due to the fact that his ex gf shelled out 3800 dollars to fix his car and said it was never rebuilt nor was she paid that money back.

[Vypurr]

No lock needed here. Just keep things civil.

[dragonfly2k3]

isnt that the picture of the terrifying girl on the spec?

either way, I seriously doubt that going past redline would blow a heater core. Not without also throwing a rod. On a side note, you should have NEVER let anyone drive the car without a full payment, or a written contract and the title in that persons name. I do commend MC on his post above as it was well put together and, if full of fact, well deserved.

[tredvento]

ok so i suppose it is my turn to do so here.... i could give 2 cares about my reputation around here... are you my friends? do i hang with you? then why would i care. i will leave this about the what bs i was fed about this car.




but i put down a 900 dollar deposit, these aim im's were legit and are saved on my computer and will be sent to certain people if they do need actual proof this happened.

this will be my only post as this is ridiculous, i have recieved calls and ims from people saying they saw robbie driving the jetta when in the bill of sale it was noted that if i was not using the car it would sit, well i like that it wasnt sitting and people telling me robbie was murdering it and racing it.

this would also be the funny part of me saying i had you and your cousin lie, when in fact i never once said it, but the fact that you told people to lie and say you werent driving the car which i know is false, but whatever floats your boat.

think what everyone will, i dont need the opinion of others to make me decide how i feel, those who post after this bashing me, enjoy it since it really wont mean 2 ****'s to me.



i was promised the car was rebuilt and sworn up and down the block , i was promised that i would have the help if the car broke down, robbie did tell me the car was rebuilt and was done when the tranny was done, which is a lie due to the fact that his ex gf shelled out 3800 dollars to fix his car and said it was never rebuilt nor was she paid that money back.

ok first of all, my sale thread says its a 175k car, i never once said i had proof of a rebuld, i have no clue why you would post al im conve that you could easily edit or even make stuff up it

second, you gave me 250$ for a downpayment. and there was never a bill of sale, if there was i would take you to court for the lack of money.

and lastly, my ex gf did not pay a dime for anything on my car ill have her back this up

[pearl]

I dated robbie for three years and witnessed him beat the living sh*t out of the jetta. so don't blame mike for the sh*t that went wrong. you sold the car to him knowing damn well the car was fallng apart. thats why you sold it to him bc you didnt want the hassle of fixing it.

looks like the car was being sold AS-IS, with no warranty. so even if it was falling apart, crying about it doesn't matter. the buyer should know what they are getting themselves into.

[mck52689]

ok first of all, my sale thread says its a 175k car, i never once said i had proof of a rebuld, i have no clue why you would post al im conve that you could easily edit or even make stuff up it

second, you gave me 250$ for a downpayment. and there was never a bill of sale, if there was i would take you to court for the lack of money.

and lastly, my ex gf did not pay a dime for anything on my car ill have her back this up

I am pretty sure you can't edit aim logging hence why they created it so people could NOT edit it seeing as it comes from aim.com.

I am pretty sure 9-100 dollar bills equals 900 dollars unless currency has lost value to 250 dollars.

your ex told me how she had to pay for your tranny, and how she paid for your laptop and rent which you owe her.


you can keep the deposit if you want robbie, help you buy a conscious so you dont tell people the motor was rebuilt when it wasnt.

I did have intentions of buying the car, but when a seller tells a buyer that he should go swallow a bottle of tylenol pm and that i can go **** myself and fix the problems myself then ok.

to everyone else. yes i admit i should have bought the car whole and it was generous of robbie to let me use it while i finished. but when a buyer does not tell you about the panoramic floorboard moon roof and the lovely engine knock then i figure thats bad sales.

I am admitting better ways could have come of this, but lessons come and go, and ill await the ndubb and lansdale people to come talk their mouths off.

[mck52689]

looks like the car was being sold AS-IS, with no warranty. so even if it was falling apart, crying about it doesn't matter. the buyer should know what they are getting themselves into.


Pearl I was told that if anything ever happend to the car, it would be taken care of by the seller as guilt because he said ti was that reliable, but when the heater core went out and it was under recall, i asked, and i never heard of this rule where if your not the original owner you can;t get it.

[pearl]

Pearl I was told that if anything ever happend to the car, it would be taken care of by the seller as guilt because he said ti was that reliable, but when the heater core went out and it was under recall, i asked, and i never heard of this rule where if your not the original owner you can;t get it.
i understand that, but it doesnt make the seller LIABLE to fix the car. sure he can help you, but its still your car.

the grey line is the fact that you never really "owned" it. so you had it (and broke it/it broke on you) and the seller is upset. i feel that if you gave the deposit you either
a) pay up the rest since you put a deposit on it
or
b) leave the car and eat the deposit. the deposit should be enough to fix whatever happened to the car.

if you ask me, you BOTH are at fault. the owner has a broken car, and the buyer is out a deposit. live and learn.

[CHAOS]

i agree, you are both at fault/stupid.

[mck52689]

i understand that, but it doesnt make the seller LIABLE to fix the car. sure he can help you, but its still your car.

the grey line is the fact that you never really "owned" it. so you had it (and broke it/it broke on you) and the seller is upset. i feel that if you gave the deposit you either
a) pay up the rest since you put a deposit on it
or
b) leave the car and eat the deposit. the deposit should be enough to fix whatever happened to the car.

if you ask me, you BOTH are at fault. the owner has a broken car, and the buyer is out a deposit. live and learn.



I basically just stated that in my post, i told him to keep the deposit, but a bill of sale was written, many steps were taken. but if the heater core is under recall then it can be taken in, as seeing my last car was under recall i was not the original owner and i still had it done. you dont have to be the original owner

[CHAOS]

did you sign anything saying you were buying the car?

[05OCsrt-4]

i agree, you are both at fault/stupid.

+1, but the stupidity is more on the seller, why the hell would you let someone use the car if they haven't paid you in full? suck it up, STFU and learn, life is about lessons and you learned the hard way. the buyer needs to man up to his **** too, you were going to buy the car, you were borrowing it, it broke, you fix it. its like if i borrowed your TV and dropped it down the stairs and broke, what would you want me to do?

[pearl]

i just didnt feel like reading it lol

[Vypurr]

Closed at the request of the seller.