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JET02WRX
07-17-2008, 07:55 AM
Against my better judgement I just checked my portfolio... 13% loss for Jan-July... AHHHHHHHHH. Its fairly diversified too. Its not like I have everything in company stock. Thank god because our company stock (Comcast) is posting a 32% year to date loss.

The only consolation I have is pretty much all of the funds that invest in stocks are down. The only things posting a positive gain are things in Bonds... which makes sense. I've always heard that when the economy and market is bad...invest in bonds to preserve your income. Also the 'stable value funds' are either at a 0 gain or 1 - 3 % gain.

How is everyone else fairing?

CHAOS
07-17-2008, 07:57 AM
mine isnt doing too bad... i barely have **** in the company stock tho

CHAOS
07-17-2008, 07:59 AM
just checked..

2.3% down. not too bad considering.

JET02WRX
07-17-2008, 08:01 AM
What do you have? Are you doing that single fund that is tied to your approximate year of retirement? Or do you have multiple funds?

marshallpre1
07-17-2008, 08:01 AM
too scared to check, but I don't have any in my own company stock

CHAOS
07-17-2008, 08:28 AM
What do you have? Are you doing that single fund that is tied to your approximate year of retirement? Or do you have multiple funds?

ive got it fairly diversified across a few things.

alwaysinboost
07-17-2008, 08:43 AM
down 11% for the year but I don't care cause I'm not cashing in anytime soon. its called dollar cost averaging and its your friend in the long term.

JET02WRX
07-17-2008, 08:54 AM
Yeah... i know... The market has its ups and downs...its always just painful to look at it and see that big minus sign staring you in the face.

2drStunner
07-17-2008, 10:27 AM
01/01/2008 to 07/16/2008 is -14.4% That hurts my feelings! :cry:

DaveSTi
07-17-2008, 10:36 AM
Year to date -6.98%

last quarter 2.2%

glad this is for long term, haha.

twastheglow
07-17-2008, 10:52 AM
I haven't even looked at mine. I don't want a reason to be put in a bad mood. LOL

alwaysinboost
07-17-2008, 11:00 AM
if you don't plan on cashing out until you retire, which for most of us will be atleast another 30-40 years, you have nothing to worry about.

Its highly likely that the market will "crash" a couple times before we all cash out. The important thing to do is keep investing your money. Right now while the market is low you are buying shares of funds or stocks at very low prices, when the market eventually picks back up, and it will pick back up eventually, those shares you purcahsed at a lower price will also rise in value making the return on your investment even greater.

twastheglow
07-17-2008, 11:04 AM
^ Well all know you're right...in the back of our minds...but it still hurts seeing those numbers. :(

DaveSTi
07-17-2008, 01:50 PM
if you don't plan on cashing out until you retire, which for most of us will be atleast another 30-40 years, you have nothing to worry about.

Its highly likely that the market will "crash" a couple times before we all cash out. The important thing to do is keep investing your money. Right now while the market is low you are buying shares of funds or stocks at very low prices, when the market eventually picks back up, and it will pick back up eventually, those shares you purcahsed at a lower price will also rise in value making the return on your investment even greater.

now's the time to buy in other words. :)

Tiny
07-17-2008, 01:59 PM
if you don't plan on cashing out until you retire, which for most of us will be atleast another 30-40 years, you have nothing to worry about.

Its highly likely that the market will "crash" a couple times before we all cash out. The important thing to do is keep investing your money. Right now while the market is low you are buying shares of funds or stocks at very low prices, when the market eventually picks back up, and it will pick back up eventually, those shares you purcahsed at a lower price will also rise in value making the return on your investment even greater.

Lol. I keep telling the people here the same thing. I'm going to be working for another 30 years. Who gives a **** if the market is down right now?

TROLL
07-17-2008, 02:06 PM
My Roth IRA is down 15% on the year... it is contributed to monthly for dollar cost averaging like mentioned above.

I own two 401K funds... one is down 2.5% on the year, the other is down 11% on the year... again monthly investments for dollar cost averaging.

Its true that those who invest should come out on top in the long run, but right now is still painful to me. I've got a lot of other stuff too thats hurting pretty bad as well. Just trying to weather the storm and recognize the buying opportunities as they present themselves and we'll see clearer skies soon enough...

Maybe yesterday and today will set the tone for the future? Doubtful, but it'd be nice. I'll take this little rebound though whenever I can get it.

alwaysinboost
07-17-2008, 02:16 PM
now's the time to buy in other words. :)

:wink:

garrettej8
07-17-2008, 08:54 PM
one of my managers told me today that he lost $32,000. that sucks

TROLL
07-17-2008, 09:45 PM
a lot of people are a lot worse off than that... and thats just 401K.

i like rice
07-17-2008, 10:01 PM
Mine is up 2.6% for the last quarter and up 4.51% for the year, so no complaints here.

PhillySVT
07-18-2008, 10:57 AM
Against my better judgement I just checked my portfolio... 13% loss for Jan-July... AHHHHHHHHH. Its fairly diversified too. Its not like I have everything in company stock. Thank god because our company stock (Comcast) is posting a 32% year to date loss.

The only consolation I have is pretty much all of the funds that invest in stocks are down. The only things posting a positive gain are things in Bonds... which makes sense. I've always heard that when the economy and market is bad...invest in bonds to preserve your income. Also the 'stable value funds' are either at a 0 gain or 1 - 3 % gain.

How is everyone else fairing?

64% loss in the past year....ouch

rysti06
07-18-2008, 04:05 PM
get used to it....luckily everyones in the same boat....http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/personal/07/18/financial.planners/index.html?iref=24hours......now if everyone pulls out watch out...

Kiel
07-19-2008, 08:58 AM
My 401k is down about 10%, but it's no big deal. It was up 18% last year. I've got 40 more years of watching it fluctuate.

redline
07-19-2008, 09:02 AM
I don't have a 401K but I did roll it into other options and a TSP. All are down and I made a thread about cashing out and putting it all in a high yeild savings account (3.5 to 4.9) or ladder them out in CD's with ones maturing every year untill this economy gets better! I am sick of this ****! I think I will pay the penalties just so I am not left with nothing. I see no end in sight:mad:

fballman1987
07-19-2008, 09:31 PM
13.5 percent down... looking forward to retirement... :roll:

TROLL
07-19-2008, 09:35 PM
I wouldn't cash out now... its a tough time but its just a blip on the radar in the grand scheme...

twastheglow
07-19-2008, 09:50 PM
I wouldn't cash out now... its a tough time but its just a blip on the radar in the grand scheme...

Exactly. I know that it's tough as **** seeing a dollar amount attached to loses we're all taking, but as far as I can tell, none of us are retiring anytime soon. And just like someone else mentioned earlier, this may happen once or twice more before we actually do.

PhillySVT
07-19-2008, 10:06 PM
Exactly. I know that it's tough as **** seeing a dollar amount attached to loses we're all taking, but as far as I can tell, none of us are retiring anytime soon. And just like someone else mentioned earlier, this may happen once or twice more before we actually do.

True...I can't complain cause I had multiple years of 30+% gains.....I would not cash out now. Market will hopefully bounce back in a couple years. I think it's foolish to think it will rebound quick. People are hurting over gas prices.

TROLL
07-19-2008, 10:09 PM
I think its hard because you're always told 10% growth a year and people talk about that like its the norm and its to be expected... but obviously thats not the case.
Hey, not a bad week though so maybe things are looking up...

cburwell
07-20-2008, 08:30 PM
My 401K from my old company lost a little over $100 this quarter, which is not bad at all.

I'll be rolling those funds over to the 403B at my new company some time this week. My investments for the 403B will be more aggressive then those from my 401K, so I'll see how that works out. Either way, that money is in there for the long haul. I hear many people talking about pulling their money out, when they are not even close to retirement! Most of them don't realize that with good investments, these are not permanent losses.

JSpecV03
07-21-2008, 12:49 AM
i jsut love how the cost of living keeps rising and rising while salaries arent. its allmost impossilbe to make out to the good anymore

KingOfDelco
07-21-2008, 08:59 AM
and thats why I opted for a raise instead of getting in on our 401K. i'll handle my own hard-earned money, thank you. :)

CHAOS
07-21-2008, 09:01 AM
and thats why I opted for a raise instead of getting in on our 401K. i'll handle my own hard-earned money, thank you. :)

let me know how that works out when you have nothing to show for it.

alwaysinboost
07-21-2008, 09:30 AM
and thats why I opted for a raise instead of getting in on our 401K. i'll handle my own hard-earned money, thank you. :)

so you basically just turned down tax free money, which your employeer will match a portion of, for more taxable income... :bigeek:

JET02WRX
07-21-2008, 10:24 AM
and thats why I opted for a raise instead of getting in on our 401K. i'll handle my own hard-earned money, thank you. :)

wow... just.... wow. Did you really just say that? Just because its bad now, doesn't mean you should NOT have investments for your future. My original post was just saying its painful to see sudden dips like this. Overall, in the last 8 years, I've made 10% on my 401k.
To take a raise over your company matched investment, that will pay you 8-12% returns over your life time is just retarded.
Unless you are a stock trading genius, you are going to be 70 years old and still needing to work.

the4g63
07-21-2008, 10:31 AM
I don't know too much about these things. I won't be "vested" in my companies 401k for 5 years. I believe our 401k is mostly in the company stock, and they had a record quarter and record years for the past 5 years. So, I guess ours is up... no clue. lol.

JET02WRX
07-21-2008, 10:39 AM
ooof... if you have the option... diversify. Its never a good idea to have ONLY company stock as part of your 401k. If your company is ever devalued...or goes bankrupt... there goes your money.

the4g63
07-21-2008, 10:42 AM
ooof... if you have the option... diversify. Its never a good idea to have ONLY company stock as part of your 401k. If your company is ever devalued...or goes bankrupt... there goes your money.

True this. I'll keep that in mind, lol.

OptiCon
07-21-2008, 10:50 AM
I'm not checking it. I know better. :mrgreen:

JSpecV03
07-21-2008, 01:01 PM
yeah why mess with money that your company is giving you. to not take it is pretty dumb

Got Insulin?
07-22-2008, 12:07 PM
No 401K here. Funeral Directors FTLW/L.

futuredsmowner
07-23-2008, 05:20 PM
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