View Full Version : TST Help Me Track A Scammer!
redline
06-10-2008, 10:33 AM
OK, I bought an item from a member on EvoM, item never shipped and he dodged my PM's with the run around for almost 3 weeks, I got a mod involved and still nothing. I filed a Paypal claim against him today but that will only go so far. I need to get some info on this guy, you know the rundown. Just wondering if you guys can dig up some hard facts on this guy?
My item I purchased
http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=341883
Here is another thread of him scamming someone on another forum
http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?t=275473
EvolutionM Forum SN: Highwind
Paypal name: Alexander (Alex) Han
Paypal Address: a1exhan41@gmail.com
AIM SN: hkxstyle
Cell Phone: T mobil: 626-215-2800
Address: which just happens to be Invision Performance, i doubt it. 1170 Centre Dr Unit i, City of Industry, CA 91789
Vypurr
06-10-2008, 10:49 AM
Did you confirm his # to be valid before you bought it?
poisonivory
06-10-2008, 10:49 AM
his myspace:
http://www.myspace.com/a1exhan
and he has people from invision on his top friends.
***if it is inappropriate to post his link, i apologize and mods feel free to remove. Just trying to help a fellow TST'er.
Gorilla Unit 33
06-10-2008, 10:50 AM
myspace:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=17561
poisonivory
06-10-2008, 10:52 AM
^^haha beat ya to it.
redline
06-10-2008, 10:53 AM
Redline's steaming! AAHHHH that little punk!
redline
06-10-2008, 10:54 AM
Did you confirm his # to be valid before you bought it?
What do you mean, this info was found after he didn't ship. He has a rating of selling on EvoM, its only 1 but thats all I have here and I wouldn't scam anyone.
poisonivory
06-10-2008, 10:59 AM
from the looks of his myspace he does seem to be affiliated, or at least acquainted with Invision Performance. Call the shop and ask for him.
redline
06-10-2008, 11:01 AM
from the looks of his myspace he does seem to be affiliated, or at least acquainted with Invision Performance. Call the shop and ask for him.
Oh no I want the dirt so my boy out their can ring his bell.
pearl
06-10-2008, 11:09 AM
subscribed. OT will help you ban him from existence.
poisonivory
06-10-2008, 11:10 AM
worst part is its a group of scrawny young asian dudes with too much damn money. I hope you find out where Johnny Tran lives and your boy takes care of business, because I know i'd be salty as shyt if I got scammed by some little punk.
redline
06-10-2008, 11:14 AM
worst part is its a group of scrawny young asian dudes with too much damn money. I hope you find out where Johnny Tran lives and your boy takes care of business, because I know i'd be salty as shyt if I got scammed by some little punk.
Thats funny because my old dorm drinking buddy out their is like 6' 4" and a brick **** house. He is gearing up for a deployment now but wants to pay this guy a visit as soon as I get the facts.
poisonivory
06-10-2008, 11:15 AM
i just did some digging on the thread you bought the item from......there is a big link at the top of the page that states you cant post on the private sale forum until you are a member for at least 7 days and have 50 posts. Its funny if you look at his post count, its 51. That has scam written all over it. lol
redline
06-10-2008, 11:18 AM
i just did some digging on the thread you bought the item from......there is a big link at the top of the page that states you cant post on the private sale forum until you are a member for at least 7 days and have 50 posts. Its funny if you look at his post count, its 51. That has scam written all over it. lol
Yes but if you look through all his posts they are spanned out over like 5 months. I never had trouble buying on EvoM and that had alot to do with it.
redline
06-10-2008, 11:20 AM
<---Wished he knew someone at T mobil????
igo4bmx
06-10-2008, 11:21 AM
Yes but if you look through all his posts they are spanned out over like 5 months. I never had trouble buying on EvoM and that had alot to do with it.
tell him some BS like how you're on a military base and internet frauding over govt wires has become now a priority for internal affairs blah blah.
redline
06-10-2008, 11:26 AM
tell him some BS like how you're on a military base and internet frauding over govt wires has become now a priority for internal affairs blah blah.
Good idea! You really know how to make someone laugh! I doubt it, I really want this guy to get his visit. I messaged him and told him he has until tomorrow to settle this and then it goes forward.
Vypurr
06-10-2008, 12:05 PM
What do you mean, this info was found after he didn't ship. He has a rating of selling on EvoM, its only 1 but thats all I have here and I wouldn't scam anyone.
I was assuming that they used a format like ours on the for sale thread. I would have called him to verify that it was indeed his phone number before sending him the money. But it seems that you only got that after you paid, so you had no way to check.
poisonivory
06-10-2008, 12:09 PM
was he not answering your PM's at all, or just giving you the run-around like "it'll be sent next week".
redline
06-10-2008, 12:25 PM
was he not answering your PM's at all, or just giving you the run-around like "it'll be sent next week".
Last week I knew what was up, it was the run around and when he couldn't provide a tracking number I started PM'ing the Mods. Looks like him, his freinds and Invision stopped selling parts in late May after being decent vendors, from what I read. I wonder what happened? Maybe went to Jail, I would hope not!
poisonivory
06-10-2008, 12:31 PM
hmm...well Invision still has an operating webpage, BUT the dudes myspace does say he hasnt logged in for 2 weeks. ya never know man. Good luck getting it worked out though.
dubjinc
06-10-2008, 12:50 PM
<---Wished he knew someone at T mobil????
What do you mean by that?
redline
06-10-2008, 01:04 PM
What do you mean by that?
I think you can figure it out?
The Captain
06-10-2008, 01:06 PM
What do you mean by that?
phone number + tmobile connection = :)
Subscribed, i'll do some searching, see what i can find
redline
06-10-2008, 01:35 PM
phone number + tmobile connection = :)
Subscribed, i'll do some searching, see what i can find
Cool.
Just got a response back from a mod on EvoM and it appears they had a couple IP hits for usernames "they" were using. I wonder how many other forums these guys are trying to sell **** on.
dubjinc
06-10-2008, 01:39 PM
oh word. I'll find out if a very close friend can get info without a social number and let you know.
agoodall
06-10-2008, 01:45 PM
thats sucks...never trust a ninja. Good luck getting your money/part/blood vengeance
dnasty2g
06-10-2008, 01:48 PM
http://www.facebook.com/s.php?k=100000020&nm=alex+han&ed=&wk=&em=a1exhan41%40gmail.com
His facebook.
The Captain
06-10-2008, 01:48 PM
Alex han
15133 la subida Dr
hacienda heights CA 91745
another pay pal id:
paypal ID: alx.international@gmail.com
His home: http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&q=15133+La+Subida+Dr,+Hacienda+Heights,+CA+91745,+ USA&um=1&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&resnum=1&ct=image
kthanxbai
redline
06-10-2008, 01:50 PM
Alex han
15133 la subida Dr
hacienda heights CA 91745
another pay pal id:
paypal ID: alx.international@gmail.com
Yes old stuff, the address is a church in CA. just google it.
dnasty2g
06-10-2008, 01:53 PM
Maybe he's a ninja priest?
redline
06-10-2008, 01:54 PM
Maybe he's a ninja priest?
He aint no ninja, he left footprints.
The Captain
06-10-2008, 01:55 PM
http://www.350z-tech.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=35448&st=80 you're not the only one.
dubjinc
06-10-2008, 02:01 PM
post or pm the number. if the carrier is t-mobile i don't think it will work but may for other ones ill find out by trying.
The Captain
06-10-2008, 02:02 PM
Cell Phone: T mobil: 626-215-2800
mssglngth
dubjinc
06-10-2008, 02:08 PM
weird number...brb with the verdict.
iloveitsideways
06-10-2008, 02:22 PM
ha so i called the number from a blocked Id and a dude answered, are you sure its a t -mobile number, i know alot ppl at t -mobile so i can check and see what info they can get me.
dubjinc
06-10-2008, 02:25 PM
idk if its t mobile someones checkin now for me too, but the number is a california number.. redline did you talk to him on that number or anything like that?
redline
06-10-2008, 02:28 PM
ha so i called the number from a blocked Id and a dude answered, are you sure its a t -mobile number, i know alot ppl at t -mobile so i can check and see what info they can get me.
Yes people have been calling him, he made his information available. Now, he just got back to me on Myspace and EvoM saying he never got my address even though I gave it to him more than 3 times so he couldn't forget it and told me he will ship it out tonight and once i get the tracking number to take down my dispute. Sure, then im left recieving box of **** and no way to file a claim because I took it down. This guy is a real loser, I bet if I was pressing the guy right now in person he would have a whole different story. Oh what i wouldn't give after his messages, he was pissed I messaged all his top freinds and told them to tell him WTF is my money?
redline
06-10-2008, 02:30 PM
idk if its t mobile someones checkin now for me too, but the number is a california number.. redline did you talk to him on that number or anything like that?
I'd rather not talk to him, thats bad business if you know what I mean.
Vypurr
06-10-2008, 02:34 PM
Yeah, he is definatly answering my txt messages
redline
06-10-2008, 02:36 PM
Yeah, he is definatly answering my txt messages
He is going to sya the same stuff he said to the mods, nothing but excuses.
Vypurr
06-10-2008, 02:39 PM
Haha. Now he is calling me. I must not be the only one texting him. I wish I wasn't at work or I would answer.
redline
06-10-2008, 03:19 PM
Simmer on low heat overnight and I'll check it in the morning.
Vypurr
06-10-2008, 03:21 PM
You were right though, do not drop your complaint until you get the product and inspect it!
zerioustt
06-10-2008, 03:27 PM
he just txted me after i txt bombed him..haha
25 txts in an instant!
he said he gave you your money back, i called him a liar sent him 10txts with 20 pages a piece. needless to say his phones going to freeze..haha
The Captain
06-10-2008, 03:29 PM
lol nice. sucks bein a scammer.
Soon2bG60
06-10-2008, 03:35 PM
I think Ill text the **** outta his phone next?
zerioustt
06-10-2008, 03:38 PM
he keeps calling me and i keep rejecting his calls...lols
agoodall
06-10-2008, 03:42 PM
i just sent him a txt. expressing my hate for internet scammers
Soon2bG60
06-10-2008, 03:49 PM
Hahah, I texted the guy.
Then he called me, and I could hear someone in the background saying, OMG, Come on!
Vypurr
06-10-2008, 03:52 PM
I would hold off on the TXT bombs until he really screws him over
Wait until the morning when redline reports back with or without a tracking #
omgjacki
06-10-2008, 04:01 PM
Subscribed.
Scapegoat
06-10-2008, 04:10 PM
Subscribed.
you should send him that image of kevin's face edited onto your body... at least via email so he can see it well enough
Soon2bG60
06-10-2008, 04:21 PM
I would hold off on the TXT bombs until he really screws him over
Wait until the morning when redline reports back with or without a tracking #
Alright.... :(
TROLL
06-10-2008, 04:55 PM
hopefully everyone will chill and remember the objective here is to get redlines part or his money back and that probably wont happen if you get too aggressive with this guy.
supraghost
06-10-2008, 05:05 PM
if this guys flakes, there is no need to text bomb him.
just post up a really cheap car in his town with his phone number on craigslist.
^^^my ultimate favorite prank. did it to my friend mike with his laptop and he got over 70 calls in one hour haha.
agoodall
06-10-2008, 06:04 PM
^^^ hahaha that is gold, i am going to do that to all my friends....but i think i might have to make the ad in the Causal Encounter section just to add some special gheyness to it
dubjinc
06-10-2008, 08:00 PM
I'd rather not talk to him, thats bad business if you know what I mean.
I meant are you sure thats his number? i couldnt get any info cause its a cailf number, and with all the other carriers other than att you would need a zipcode and last four of social to look up a number. i would def put his number on craigslist if you don't get anything.
4g64FTL
06-10-2008, 08:19 PM
We can Call bomb him everyone at a certain time and one will get though the rest leave fun messages
4g64FTL
06-10-2008, 08:24 PM
I sent him a text not relating to anything on tst
4g64FTL
06-10-2008, 09:25 PM
He wont stop calling me! I cant pick up ill crack up laughing
dragonfly2k3
06-10-2008, 10:58 PM
I thought we were all supposed to leave him alone?
redline
06-10-2008, 11:23 PM
LOL!!!! He PM'ed me on EvoM this morning and told me he had a problem getting it shipped, same old excuses, I just want my money back. I bet he is fed up by now. Oh on the phone listing I did a reverse search and it came up as a T mobil number, Arcadia, CA. He also PMed me that same phone number and told me to call him. LOL!
redline
06-10-2008, 11:24 PM
Check back after work. TST is locked FTL!
maximaserg
06-10-2008, 11:43 PM
good luck
4g64FTL
06-11-2008, 06:08 AM
Good luck man I had 3 numbers call me last night after my 1 text all throughout the night I just put it on silent and went to sleep. But all the best to you and let us know the end result :)
Vypurr
06-11-2008, 06:08 AM
DO NOT CALL HIM AND BUG HIM. We want Redline to get his money, not to have the seller pissed off. After he gets his stuff, I can't stop you guys though!
Scapegoat
06-11-2008, 06:25 AM
DO NOT CALL HIM AND BUG HIM. We want Redline to get his money, not to have the seller pissed off. After he gets his stuff, I can't stop you guys though!
ya can't really stop anyone from doing it now either...
just because this kid gets pissed off doesn't mean redline won't get his money back... he wasn't planning on giving it back to begin with. Personally, I'm not calling/texting because I don't want this douche to be calling me.
I for one feel someone needs to follow the advice given earlier though... craigslist prank...
redline
06-11-2008, 11:40 AM
Today he was PMing me back and forth and says he is going to send the mirrors out and that he is sorry for everything. Catch is he sold the mirrors to another member on EvoM who left feedback yesterday after he recieved them. I asked him to take a pic of him holding the mirrors and send it to me, he said he would but I haven't got it yet.
90blacktsiawd
06-11-2008, 02:18 PM
I know everyones saying not to call and what not but when it comes to the point where that sorta thing is acceptable you could always use www prankdialer com and then your number wont even be showing up on his phone.
OMGz Turbo
06-11-2008, 03:35 PM
iphone people can use spoof app and call him off his own phone number i dont think he would know what to do with himself
4g64FTL
06-11-2008, 06:13 PM
iphone people can use spoof app and call him off his own phone number i dont think he would know what to do with himself
I who doesnt have an iphone, is that really possible? lol
TROLL
06-11-2008, 06:24 PM
i guess you have to ask yourself what you're trying to accomplish... are you trying to help a fellow member get his money or his parts back, or do you not give a **** about helping this member and you just want to jump on this opportunity to act like you're 13 again and prank call someone?
redline
06-12-2008, 12:23 AM
i guess you have to ask yourself what you're trying to accomplish... are you trying to help a fellow member get his money or his parts back, or do you not give a **** about helping this member and you just want to jump on this opportunity to act like you're 13 again and prank call someone?
Got a tracking number from him this morning, hopefully it's not a box of ****! We'll see.
The Captain
06-12-2008, 12:33 AM
Woot, glad to hear. Let us know when u get it and what kinda shape it's in.
zerioustt
06-12-2008, 07:53 AM
Well lut us know as soon as you get your stuff so I can txt bomb him some more.
dnasty2g
06-12-2008, 12:36 PM
Got a tracking number from him this morning, hopefully it's not a box of ****! We'll see.
Don't take your dispute down until you open the box and make sure its in there and in opne piece.
Well lut us know as soon as you get your stuff so I can txt bomb him some more.
:lol: haha
4g64FTL
06-12-2008, 02:39 PM
call the company shipping ie ups, usps fedex and give them your tracking number and ask how much it weighs, that will let you know somewhat. Take pics when you get so you dont get 100 posts asking for pics :)
redline
06-12-2008, 02:44 PM
call the company shipping ie ups, usps fedex and give them your tracking number and ask how much it weighs, that will let you know somewhat. Take pics when you get so you dont get 100 posts asking for pics :)
True..just so happens the guy he shipped the mirrors to happens to be stationed right down the road here in Germany and I have meet him before. Small world! If it's anything other than mirrors and I miss my day on the Nurburgring June 28th because of this clown I am getting the next hop to the States!
Long story short, I am missing my lens on the passenger side due to these small ass streets in Europe and their obcesion with road markers and street signs. Either that or the truck coming at me would of creamed me!
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