Help me decide on wheels

[redline]

Well since Tirerack decided to take my money then tell me NT03m's are on a 3 month BO, I am hunting for different wheels. I have narrowed it down to these 2 in 18X9 +29 (advan) and 18X9.5 +29 (SSR) both in gunmetal. Prices have been quoted and I am ready to jump. TST, I want to see what you think, which one?

EDIT: KEEP IN MIND THAT +29 OFFSET WILL BE MORE CONCAVE ON BOTH WHEELS PICTURED.

Advan RS w/ RT 615's = $2900 shipped
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e223/mizfitz1481/2167.jpg
SSR Type C-RS w/ Dunlop Z1 Star Spec's = $3000 shipped - 19LBS:eek:
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e223/mizfitz1481/ssr_typec_rs_anth_ci3_l.jpg

[RyanG]

SSR handsdown! don't be a sheep !!!

[Adam496]

I like the advans

[redline]

SSR handsdown! don't be a sheep !!!

I am leaning towards the SSR's for the reason they come in 9.5 and the Star Specs are a way better tire. BUT the Advans are sweet too!

[CarbonIS]

get the ssr's :wink:

[SovXietday]

Advans, those SSRs look pretty ugly.

[Nors]

SSRs, whats the other set weigh?

[omgjacki]

Get the Advans.

[SovXietday]

Get the Advans.

The woman agrees, go Advans!:mrgreen:

[CarbonIS]

when i picked my advans up out of the box i was like hoooooooooooly crap these are light.

[Silverfc88]

Hmm, tough decision you have there. I think the SSR's would look pretty bad ass on the evo and there light.

[omgjacki]

The woman agrees, go Advans!:mrgreen:

Advans are always ftw =)

[jdm free]

get the ssr's :wink:

theyr pretty sweet

[sisforsurfing]

hah, if having Advan RS's makes you a sheep I'm going to start growing wool and saying "bahh."

You can't go wrong with either set. I prefer the styling of the RS's but the Type C-RS's are a sick track wheel and look pretty good too.

[BlackTypeR]

I like the Advans way more than the SSR's

[PhillySVT]

SSr's are nice! Cant go wrong with either of your two choices.

[FlashFive]

love the advans

[youraveragedsmer]

ssr's

[Honest_Bob]

The ssr's are sexier!

[redline]

Wow, the SSR's got more votes than I thought. I figured the Advans would win by a blowout!

[twastheglow]

I'm definately a fan of the Advan's!
*mike*

[igo4bmx]

buy advans then you look like jjm4life
buy the ssr's then you look like 9ball
hahaha

[redline]

buy advans then you look like jjm4life
buy the ssr's then you look like 9ball
hahaha

Yeah and whole lot of others too.

[james_ls]

Advans.

The SSR's might be light, but they just aren't a good looking wheel.

Maybe if they were another color.

[J.Ralli]

stock wheels for sale?

[redline]

stock wheels for sale?

Everyone wants them, I need them for my snow tires.

EDIT: Tied at 16 each

[J.Ralli]

thought so lol

[Tyler]

the advans look soo good

[youraveragedsmer]

buy both and give me a set..

[TROLL]

I prefer the SSRs honestly... but one thing i'd look into is the quality of their finish. I've known a couple people who have had issues with the clear coat flaking off over time which is pretty beat for an expensive name brand wheel. They are also semi-forged which makes them light but not quite as strong as a true forge and they are more prone to bending, which is somewhat common for them. Just want you to have all the info...
With that said, the RS's never did it for me. I know many will disagree, but they just dont have any 'personality' in my eyes... there's nothing that pops for me with them.
I think what you really want is a set of CCW Classics... I saw a set on an Evo down in Florida and damn it looked tough. I might have to get a set myself for the Supra :).

[remety]

RPF1's!! Both wheels are ulgy IMO.

[igo4bmx]

RPF1's!! Both wheels are ulgy IMO.

says the guy who picks rpf1s

[remety]

Why would you want subaru rims??

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e223/mizfitz1481/2167.jpg
http://www.wcimports.com.au/osc/images/WHEELS%203.jpg

[redline]

I prefer the SSRs honestly... but one thing i'd look into is the quality of their finish. I've known a couple people who have had issues with the clear coat flaking off over time which is pretty beat for an expensive name brand wheel. They are also semi-forged which makes them light but not quite as strong as a true forge and they are more prone to bending, which is somewhat common for them. Just want you to have all the info...
With that said, the RS's never did it for me. I know many will disagree, but they just dont have any 'personality' in my eyes... there's nothing that pops for me with them.
I think what you really want is a set of CCW Classics... I saw a set on an Evo down in Florida and damn it looked tough. I might have to get a set myself for the Supra :).

Troll thanks for the info, I have never heard about it before. I am still working out some offset issues and the SSR's are going to be aggressive(to say the least) at a +22. In the front I am going to be exactly where I want but the rear is where I am concerend? Who knows I am not trying to rush it, I am making alot of phone calls today and tomorrow trying to get this figured out. The link below is exactly the size and finish I am looking at.
http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=291176&highlight=SSR+WHEELS

Edit: Also a 2 peice design.

[redline]

Oh ****, Just got a PM back on EvoM for the Advans he reduced his original offer and now it is $2600 shipped to Germany. Man that is a steal! Still IDK, I'll make up my mind tomorrow.

[igo4bmx]

I prefer the SSRs honestly... but one thing i'd look into is the quality of their finish. I've known a couple people who have had issues with the clear coat flaking off over time which is pretty beat for an expensive name brand wheel. They are also semi-forged which makes them light but not quite as strong as a true forge and they are more prone to bending, which is somewhat common for them. Just want you to have all the info...
With that said, the RS's never did it for me. I know many will disagree, but they just dont have any 'personality' in my eyes... there's nothing that pops for me with them.
I think what you really want is a set of CCW Classics... I saw a set on an Evo down in Florida and damn it looked tough. I might have to get a set myself for the Supra :).

there was a japanese article from Enkie engineers saying how cast and forged are directly related to strength of the wheel, but it was not true.

[igo4bmx]

Why would you want subaru rims??

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e223/mizfitz1481/2167.jpg
http://www.wcimports.com.au/osc/images/WHEELS%203.jpg

they look alot different once you play with aggressive offsets
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i243/zube2000/GG_chrome_1.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m12/miteclipse99/Advanpics008.jpg

[jjm4life]

i have the advans and i voted ssr. even im bored of advans already. the ssr you can put more tire on too.

[redline]

i have the advans and i voted ssr. even im bored of advans already. the ssr you can put more tire on too.

I know but with the offset +22 that might not be a great idea, either way I think I have to go with a 255/35 or 265/35 depending. I am waiting to hear back from the Guru's on the +22's. Can you PM me what you payed for your setup?

[smokey240sx]

Throw some D's on it.

[WRX_JB]

Whats it gonna be?

[remety]

they look alot different once you play with aggressive offsets
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i243/zube2000/GG_chrome_1.jpg
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m12/miteclipse99/Advanpics008.jpg

My friend just got these rims for his subaru and everyone jokes on him because the look similar.

[evomike]

i would go advan for street use, i used to see alot of threads on ssr comps breaking on the streets and i have heard of clear coat issues. thats my advice i personally would go a completly different route.

[Evo8kid]

i wanted to get the advans, but i think its starting to get played out. So many people have them now. Id say go with the SSR they are more badass and less flashy. I personally think it will look better with the brembos in the back.

[PhillySVT]

Got a question.....How much are the rims with out tires? I am going to assume at Least $2,000 of the price is just for the rims. For that amount of money you are close to the price range of multi peice forged wheels. These companys will custom make it to what ever offset you need. You can repair/replace the ring if you bend one. You can pretty much get any color you want. Bolts or no bolts.....+ you can possibly be the only person in the country with a set of what ever rims you choose on an evo. Just a thought.

[redline]

Got a question.....How much are the rims with out tires? I am going to assume at Least $2,000 of the price is just for the rims. For that amount of money you are close to the price range of multi peice forged wheels. These companys will custom make it to what ever offset you need. You can repair/replace the ring if you bend one. You can pretty much get any color you want. Bolts or no bolts.....+ you can possibly be the only person in the country with a set of what ever rims you choose on an evo. Just a thought.

Good idea if I was in the States, there is just too much lead time. I need a set mounted and ballanced then shipped for a decent price and their are only so many big companies that are willing to compete in that market. Custom wheel manufactures aren't in that group. My heart is really set on the SSR's but if I can't get a straight awnser on the offset issue I will be going with the Advan RS in silver.

SSR comes out of turn 4 hard, Advans right on its ass.

[redline]

i wanted to get the advans, but i think its starting to get played out. So many people have them now. Id say go with the SSR they are more badass and less flashy. I personally think it will look better with the brembos in the back.

I know after looking around for pics of them installed on GG evos their is a thread like 20 pages long with them.

I have decided I want the SSR but I still have an offset issue to deal with, the available offsets are +22, +29(ideal and sold out everywhere), +33, +41. The later 2 just don't do it for me and I haven't received word on the +22's yet. I just don't want them sticking out like a set of Dayton's! If I have to step it down to a 18X9 that will be what I have to do but the 18X9.5 are only $463 a peice and the others are way more???

[TROLL]

a +33 is only 4mm higher than your ideal, it wont be too noticeable and if it is throw a small spacer on there.
i'd guess the +22 will be pushing the limits, but i really dont know eveo fitment. some would say it looks amazing, but its just not for others as far as rolling fenders, negative camber, stiff suspension, etc. in order to pull it off.
orrr be patient and wait for the offset you really want.

[redline]

a +33 is only 4mm higher than your ideal, it wont be too noticeable and if it is throw a small spacer on there.
i'd guess the +22 will be pushing the limits, but i really dont know eveo fitment. some would say it looks amazing, but its just not for others as far as rolling fenders, negative camber, stiff suspension, etc. in order to pull it off.
orrr be patient and wait for the offset you really want.

I see what your saying but I really want that aggressive look, and I will only put around 3 months a year on these things, right around 3K miles.

Edit: I really want to avoid spacers if I can.

[EvoColin]

On that Evo, Advans for sure.

[redline]

On that Evo, Advans for sure.

As a last resort I will but I will have to settle for Silver for the bargain basement price I am getting them at, then powdercoat them later on. Gunmetal sold out while I was looking. But for the price with tires It's like I am almost raping them for the Advans. They are just everywhere now and people that bought them a year ago are trying to sell them for what they cost new now. If I have to I will get them but the SSR's are the **** in every catagory and if they peel I will them coated.

[igo4bmx]

i would go advan for street use, i used to see alot of threads on ssr comps breaking on the streets and i have heard of clear coat issues. thats my advice i personally would go a completly different route.

instead of "hearing" stories.
ask 9ball (tst member here) that very question. He has ssr comps on his evo8

[redline]

instead of "hearing" stories.
ask 9ball (tst member here) that very question. He has ssr comps on his evo8

I think your right but the old comps are different from the Type-C and are a far reach from touching the Type C-RS, forged and a 2-peice wheel. I still love the Comps though, I wanted them on my Z when I had it. Just didn't have the cash back then to do it.

[redline]

i would go advan for street use, i used to see alot of threads on ssr comps breaking on the streets and i have heard of clear coat issues. thats my advice i personally would go a completly different route.

I like what you have to say cause you are always to the point, what would you go with? Seriously? I like hearing opinions.

[D Money]

you should get 18x9.5 +22 Volk te37s.

That's a real rim, real aggressive, fits the fenders flusher than ever, and has the craziest concave. Do it.

but no bull****, if you need help finding a rim that will be aggressive, I can help you. Both of those wheels you chose will work, I just think you should step it up to 18x10 +25 in the advans.

EDIT: just read this, but 18x9 +22 on an evo wouldn't stick out. If you need me to post pics, I will but most kids run the +20 work emotions in 9.5 and they fit soooo nice!

[redline]

you should get 18x9.5 +22 Volk te37s.

That's a real rim, real aggressive, fits the fenders flusher than ever, and has the craziest concave. Do it.

but no bull****, if you need help finding a rim that will be aggressive, I can help you. Both of those wheels you chose will work, I just think you should step it up to 18x10 +25 in the advans.

EDIT: just read this, but 18x9 +22 on an evo wouldn't stick out. If you need me to post pics, I will but most kids run the +20 work emotions in 9.5 and they fit soooo nice!

Now that will look like Dayton's in the rear! I don't want to pull the rears. I will however trim them before I roll them, after reading alot of threads every evo with an aggressive setup and rolled fenders get the rear fender crease from the inner welds, looks like I will be triming a little at a time with a dremmel then spraying the inners.

[D Money]

MAN UP! You said you want aggressive. lol

Have you ever seen 18x9.5 +22 TE37s on an evo. Straight $$

[redline]

MAN UP! You said you want aggressive. lol

I know...that easy huh?

[redline]

I know the 18X9 +20 is good but the 9.5 is just that little much that I am sorta worried about. Post up D.

[D Money]

http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?p=5562238

comin in stock, this month, any color you want! lol

im going to find some pics of setups in the ultimate aggressive wheel fitment thread. lol

[redline]

you should get 18x9.5 +22 Volk te37s.

That's a real rim, real aggressive, fits the fenders flusher than ever, and has the craziest concave. Do it.

but no bull****, if you need help finding a rim that will be aggressive, I can help you. Both of those wheels you chose will work, I just think you should step it up to 18x10 +25 in the advans.

EDIT: just read this, but 18x9 +22 on an evo wouldn't stick out. If you need me to post pics, I will but most kids run the +20 work emotions in 9.5 and they fit soooo nice!

After your edit: Most people run the +20 front and +30 rear in the 9.5 emos, show me a +20 to +22 in the rear.

[D Money]

oh fatlaces car! 18x9.5 +12 haha

http://arcenal.com/DKW/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/13.jpg

you can def fit the +22!

[D Money]

http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=344103

18x9.5 +15 F +26 R

see, look how much room!

[Evo8kid]

shut up big D you have no idea what you are talking about!

[D Money]

oh and this is your new bible.

http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=250223&page=4

study it! there are kids running 18x9.5 +15 with 255s and kids running 18x9.5 +25-30 with 265s!

[redline]

http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=344103

18x9.5 +15 F +26 R

see, look how much room!

Oh man those works look great on TB! Now thats balla, thanks D I have seen the TB before just didn;t know the detials, **** SSR +22's it is, I am putting them on order tomorrow! Wish me luck with Bilstein HD dampers and Robispec springs. I sure hope it looks sick:cool:

[redline]

I think I am going to go 255/35 just incase so I have some fender room to play with.

[D Money]

wait wait!

you're on springs? what's the inner strut clearance on the evo's like? That's something I don't know.

Make sure you ask the people if that wheel clears the brembos. Sometimes different faces don't clear, hense why the kids with cr kai run the +20 in the front only.

[TROLL]

haha D found this thread... game over.
yeah after you responded saying you wanted something aggressive i was going to say the +22 is probably for you then... like I said I dont know Evo fitment well but it doesnt sound to be over the top, just a good balance of looks and functionality.
you can adjust camber front and rear correct? i think you'll be fine if you dont mind trimming the fenders.

[kevin@dambrosio]

SSR's all the way. I had a set before and they are AWSOME! very light. durable and hold value. I had gunmetal with polished lip 5x100 offset on the jetta and the srt4. awsome rims

[redline]

SSR's in +22 going on order tomorrow! $3002 shipped to Germany with 255/35 Dunlop Dirreza Z1 Star Specs. Close thread, not really but it was close and I really thought the Advans would win by a landslide but this is a Subaru dominate forum. If this was on EvoM the Advans would of massacred the SSR's, I bet a paycheck on it!

[redline]

haha D found this thread... game over.
yeah after you responded saying you wanted something aggressive i was going to say the +22 is probably for you then... like I said I dont know Evo fitment well but it doesnt sound to be over the top, just a good balance of looks and functionality.
you can adjust camber front and rear correct? i think you'll be fine if you dont mind trimming the fenders.

Yes without coils I can go -2 in the front and just as close in the rear which I will do automatically with these wheels. I will try the stock settings first which is pretty aggressive for a stock setup, IDK of the top of my head but it wore out my stock Advans in 9K miles.

[redline]

Again, everyone thanks for your help and I hope Tirerack gets these things here quick! The tech on the phone laughed at me for trying to run a +22 I guess D showed him, I just wanted to be sure for 3K, I didn't want to turn around and have to sell them beacause I looked like a Mexican mini-truck. Thank you for your time and I really appreciate it! I didn't get the time of day on EvoM.

[Evo8kid]

Tstftmfw

[D Money]

with a little camber, a 255/35, you will be right in business.

http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=267542

these are +20 fronts in 9.5

are you going 9.5 or 9?

How do you plan on getting camber without coilovers, camber bolts I assume?

[redline]

wait wait!

you're on springs? what's the inner strut clearance on the evo's like? That's something I don't know.

Make sure you ask the people if that wheel clears the brembos. Sometimes different faces don't clear, hense why the kids with cr kai run the +20 in the front only.

The rear should, I think it's the front you have to worry about. If not a +26 is working above, whats 4mm? If needed I could run a small spacer correct.

[redline]

with a little camber, a 255/35, you will be right in business.

http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=267542

these are +20 fronts in 9.5

are you going 9.5 or 9?

How do you plan on getting camber without coilovers, camber bolts I assume?

9.5, and yes just turn the bolts around. Theres a thread on EvoM.

[D Money]

yeah but make sure they clear the brakes, thats the biggest thing!

The offset is fine, and that car was running a 245, not a 255 but the section width is only about .5" dif anyways.

and with the lower offset, if his fit, then yours would have less of a chance to have a problem since you're FURTHER away from the strut, but closer to the fender. He would have inside clearance issues before you ever would.

[redline]

yeah but make sure they clear the brakes, thats the biggest thing!

The offset is fine, and that car was running a 245, not a 255 but the section width is only about .5" dif anyways.

and with the lower offset, if his fit, then yours would have less of a chance to have a problem since you're FURTHER away from the strut, but closer to the fender. He would have inside clearance issues before you ever would.

All is true! If it looks anyhting close to them it is the look I am going for!

[D Money]

exciting. Good luck man, they'll look good and in that offset, the face is pretty nasty.

[redline]

exciting. Good luck man, they'll look good and in that offset, the face is pretty nasty.

I know "deep down" you subie guys are jealous at the offset! just kidding and thanks agian, only time will tell if it's "Hot or Not"!

[D Money]

not this subie guy.

18x9.5 +30 ;)

Just wait. haha

and MAKE SURE THEY TELL YOU 100% THEY CLEAR BREMBOS THAT WOULD RUIN YOUR DAY CUZ WITH A SPACER YOU MIGHT BE IN TROUBLE HAHA

[redline]

not this subie guy.

18x9.5 +30 ;)

Just wait. haha

and MAKE SURE THEY TELL YOU 100% THEY CLEAR BREMBOS THAT WOULD RUIN YOUR DAY CUZ WITH A SPACER YOU MIGHT BE IN TROUBLE HAHA

Ah com'n dude..who needs rear brakes anyway! I will do some searching tomorrow and call around.

[evomike]

Well me being busy all day d did my job for me, I'm tired of people not running an aggressive set up when there are so many options out there. Do something rad I mean I'm about to bolt up 10.5 +15 te's

[peteyturbo]

Do yourself a favor and get advan model 6 in 18x9 silver and use non-ricer (aka subaru I can fit dat) alignment and suspension setup for the actual roads you drive on ( not the ring ) and a good set of properly fitting tires, again not (aka stretch me for the wheels I bought because hot import nights)..Proper tires that fit are what does it for performance..

[D Money]

^He's going with 18x9.5 and a 255/35, that's the best option for him and that's NOT A STRETCH. Section width matches the bead to bead width and tread width matches rim width. No stretch.

He could even go 265/35 if he wanted to push it.

with a little 9" wheel like you reccommended, he could only run a 245 or something because the tire would buldge like crazy with anything bigger this making it harder for him to fit.

[redline]

^He's going with 18x9.5 and a 255/35, that's the best option for him and that's NOT A STRETCH. Section width matches the bead to bead width and tread width matches rim width. No stretch.

He could even go 265/35 if he wanted to push it.

with a little 9" wheel like you reccommended, he could only run a 245 or something because the tire would buldge like crazy with anything bigger this making it harder for him to fit.

255/35 is the most widely used tire on 9.5in wheel, next would be 265/35. I am going to have look around and find out the exact width, the less I can run and still look flush is going to be what I run due to rear fender clearances. Speed Element says I should be good with the +22's and they will clear the brembros, I just have to worry about rear clearance, so triming will be happening.

[evomike]

You should be fine with a good pull and roll

[eviltalon]

I vote SSR Type C-RS. It would be an awesome upgrade

[WRX_JB]

Still for the advans

[PhillySVT]

oh fatlaces car! 18x9.5 +12 haha

http://arcenal.com/DKW/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/13.jpg

you can def fit the +22!

Sick!

[peteyturbo]

+22 9.5 is gonna be tight in the back, and yes the tire choice is fine for rim width. It depends hugely with what tire he chooses as different models have different specs for the same size..will the car handle better in real world conditions then a forged 18x9 wheel with advan neovas without ricer camber or cutting, pulling, or rolling fenders? I really don't think so but thats just my opinion..I just think if you wanna run agressive shoes you have to accomidate the fenders as well, and I'm not talking pulling them either:)..^He's going with 18x9.5 and a 255/35, that's the best option for him and that's NOT A STRETCH. Section width matches the bead to bead width and tread width matches rim width. No stretch.

He could even go 265/35 if he wanted to push it.

with a little 9" wheel like you reccommended, he could only run a 245 or something because the tire would buldge like crazy with anything bigger this making it harder for him to fit.

[redline]

Confirmed: 1-2 week delivery, 18X9.5 SSR Type C-RS (anthrocite finish) with 255/35/18 Potenza RE-01R's. Can't wait for these bad boys and my Robi springs:banana:

[D Money]

where did you get the re01r's from? What did they run you?

[redline]

where did you get the re01r's from? What did they run you?

Tirerack the whole get up, $3100 with expedited air shipping. They were $265 a peice.

Now on to lugs and if need be ARP extended studs. I have to look around an see if I need the studs. I have been looking at the Project Mu lugs or Rays? Something dark or Ti colored.

[D Money]

why would you need extended studs? You're not running a spacer....

Get the projct kics pmu lugs! so sick.

I got project kics neochro r40s but they're sold out everywhere haha

[redline]

why would you need extended studs? You're not running a spacer....

Get the projct kics pmu lugs! so sick.

I got project kics neochro r40s but they're sold out everywhere haha

Got a pic? I think them and the Project Mu's are just relabeled, correct?

[D Money]

project kics makes the project mu ones, same thing.

[redline]

project kics makes the project mu ones, same thing.

Thought they looked the same. kics it is.

[D Money]

they're floating lugnuts so they won't scratch up your new kicks when you go to lace em up. ;)

[redline]

they're floating lugnuts so they won't scratch up your new kicks when you go to lace em up. ;)

Their going to look fresher than a pair of shoes wrapped in LV!

[TROLL]

redline! did you use our link on the home page to order through tirerack?!?!? not gonna lie, that would suck if you didnt...

[D Money]

bahahaha. LOL

[redline]

redline! did you use our link on the home page to order through tirerack?!?!? not gonna lie, that would suck if you didnt...

Oh man are you serious! I never even knew it was their! I can assure if I knew I would have, I always click on the Forum link and go straight there. DAMN!

Edit: I will call the Rep I have been working with and let him know and do their Survey to reflect.

[redline]

they're floating lugnuts so they won't scratch up your new kicks when you go to lace em up. ;)

D..Where should I purchase them? I don't want to pay too much of a markup on them. Cheapest place you'd get them at?

[TROLL]

yeah... this is the link if its possible to still incorporate it with your order...

Support TST by ordering from Tire Rack directly through this link! (http://www.kqzyfj.com/click-2809359-10428738)

Its the Tire Rack link on TST's home page.