Car rant. Ugh.

[IdriveBad]

I'm sure this could've gone in off-topic, but it was about a car, so I put it here. I'm just venting about pain in the ass sellers. To be technical, it's been about 24 days of going back and forth with this seller trying to buy a damn 240. It's a pignose coupe, it's rusty, fenders are shot, rear quarter panel damage, etc, typical 240. So far, I am the only one who has made an offer on the car. I honestly wouldn't pay over $800. He wants $1300. I am up to $1200, and I am spent. He just won't budge and it's just so damn annoying. He wanted the car gone "asap". Blue book on the car was between $600-900. Pain in the ass. I even offered to throw in a brand new $200 alarm on top of it. I just want this damn car and it's just driving me crazy. That's all.

:furious::furious::furious:

[twastheglow]

So wait, you offered $1,200 and a $200 alarm for the car?
*mike*

[omgjacki]

I'm sick of everyone asking for rediculous amounts of money for their 240. For real, I've had people ask for $3400 on a COMPLETELY STOCK 240sx just because it was clean. The miles were still through the roof. Like for real, I don't care how clean it is, I know what it's worth, and it's no where near $3400.

[Xavier]

Don't buy into fad cars. Problem solved.

[The Captain]

I sold my 240 for 400 bucks (granted i got it for 100). Wait it out dude, you'll find a cheap one.

[IdriveBad]

So wait, you offered $1,200 and a $200 alarm for the car?
*mike*

Yes. Still wouldn't budge on it.

I'm sick of everyone asking for rediculous amounts of money for their 240. For real, I've had people ask for $3400 on a COMPLETELY STOCK 240sx just because it was clean. The miles were still through the roof. Like for real, I don't care how clean it is, I know what it's worth, and it's no where near $3400.

I know, some people are ridiculous with their asking prices. I'm not going to spend that kind of cash on a beat rusty car. That whole initial d **** and drifting skyrocketing these prices, I should've sold my rx7's for big profit. I did made a nice profit on my old s13 when I sold it though.

Don't buy into fad cars. Problem solved.

It has nothing to do with the fad. I hate drifting and any of that ****, I just like 240s. I had a hatchback before and I miss it, I enjoyed driving it. I don't care what other people think of them or if everyone else has them, I buy the car because I like it.

[IdriveBad]

I sold my 240 for 400 bucks (granted i got it for 100). Wait it out dude, you'll find a cheap one.

Eventually, yeah, I don't care about being cheap, it's just finding one in my price range. I'm spending as much as I can right now, I don't have any extra cash to add. I want a coupe with a power sunroof, and they are a pain to come by. If I had the extra money, I would just give the guy the extra $100 and buy the damn car just to get it, but I don't have it. I even told him, I still have to get the car home somehow. I have a DD, so I don't care enginewise if the car runs, this one happens to run fine though. I just want a clean shell, and there are just no coupe shells for sale, at least none in my price range.

[SovXietday]

Honestly, move on from this car and look for another one. Buying cars isn't worth the hassle, I generally don't even pay attention to a car that is priced way too high from the beginning. Just go find another one, took me 2.5 months for me to find my Camaro but it was worth the wait.

[twastheglow]

^ (Xavier) I guess that solves the problem...unless of course that's the car he wants. :roll:
*mike*

[IdriveBad]

Honestly, move on from this car and look for another one. Buying cars isn't worth the hassle, I generally don't even pay attention to a car that is priced way too high from the beginning. Just go find another one, took me 2.5 months for me to find my Camaro but it was worth the wait.

I emailed him yesterday and told him I'm done wasting my time. I said I still want it, but I'm not waiting. He has my number and I told him he can call or email me if he decides to sell the car.

[twastheglow]

Honestly, move on from this car and look for another one. Buying cars isn't worth the hassle, I generally don't even pay attention to a car that is priced way too high from the beginning. Just go find another one, took me 2.5 months for me to find my Camaro but it was worth the wait.

I fully agree.
*mike*

[omgjacki]

I've been going through this bull**** looking for a 240 coupe for over a year now and I'll tell you, it's the most annoying, stressful thing ever, but when I have one it'll be well worth it. That's what I want. I don't care how long it takes me to find the right one, I'm gonna find one. I've looked at other cars and I've come across a lot of great deals like, an '88 Supra for $800. I was all ready to go ahead and but it but it just didn't feel right. I've come across hundred of hatches, but I just don't care for them.


Don't buy into fad cars. Problem solved.

For real, it's annoying how everyone and their mother wants a 240 but I don't even care about that. I'm a Nissan fan and I always have been. I love the look of a coupe when it's driving by and I love how there are endless possibilities when it comes to modding. It's not like a Honda how, no matter what you do to it, they all sound the same.

[SovXietday]

It's not like a Honda how, no matter what you do to it, they all sound the same.

Them be fightin' words there.:eek:

[twastheglow]

It's threads like these that make me thankful for what I have. I bought mine in 2005 for $1,500 and drove 10 hours one way down to Charlotte, NC to pick it up. And this was with a crumpled front fender and damaged right flip-up head light and 147k miles on the car. (granted I didn't care about the body damage because I already had a full S13 Silvia conversion waiting at home) BUT...it was a southern car that never saw snow or salt and the body was in perfect shape with ZERO rust. The point is...if you're prepared to drive a distance, that'll open up other car buying oportunities.
*mike*

[omgjacki]

Them be fightin' words there.:eek:

I figured. I don't mean anything negative by it, it's just that I've seen a lot of different Hondas that sound very similar whereas I've seen a TON of 240s and they all sound different. I don't understand why, no matter what you do to it, every Honda sounds the same.

[TurboTagTeam]

If you guys want a cheap 240 you need to be looking at Auto-Trader and NO WERE ELSE. You need to find people who don't know what they have. Like a 50 year old lady who hates her pristine S13 coupe because it has a manual transmission. Everyone on the forums knows what they can get. Your not gonna find a good deal.

A freind of mine bought a MINT 92 coupe of autotrader last year. How much did he pay? $500

And BTW-----I agree that you have to drive to get a good one. My car came from California.

[omgjacki]

If you guys want a cheap 240 you need to be looking at Auto-Trader and NO WERE ELSE. You need to find people who don't know what they have. Like a 50 year old lady who hates her pristine S13 coupe because it has a manual transmission. Everyone on the forums knows what they can get. Your not gonna find a good deal.

A freind of mine bought a MINT 92 coupe of autotrader last year. How much did he pay? $500

And BTW-----I agree that you have to drive to get a good one. My car came from California.

I agree, also. You're not gonna find anything good in the city.

A friend of mine bought his coupe for $800 off of some guy's brother. The guy moved to Italy or something and said sell it. No rust, no damage, nothing.

[Xavier]

It has nothing to do with the fad. I hate drifting and any of that ****, I just like 240s. I had a hatchback before and I miss it, I enjoyed driving it. I don't care what other people think of them or if everyone else has them, I buy the car because I like it.

Then you get to deal with the inflated prices. Why are you complaining?

[omgjacki]

Then you get to deal with the inflated prices. Why are you complaining?

Why do you care?

[Xavier]

Its an open discussion.

[twastheglow]

I don't think the OP's original arguement was as much about the asking price for the vehicle as the negotiation process. He's annoyed because the dude won't come down $100 so he can buy it.
*mike*

[omgjacki]

Like $100 is really going to ruin the seller's life.

[twastheglow]

Then you get to deal with the inflated prices. Why are you complaining?

Besides, inflation or no inflation, I still complain. I bitch about gas prices daily.
*mike*

[twastheglow]

Like $100 is really going to ruin the seller's life.

Right! I'd be pretty pissed too.
*mike*

[IdriveBad]

I don't think the OP's original arguement was as much about the asking price for the vehicle as the negotiation process. He's annoyed because the dude won't come down $100 so he can buy it.
*mike*

He is right, it's not the price itself. I said in a previous post if I had the extra $100 I'd give it to him. It's just trying to deal with this guy, and negotiating the price. It's only a $100 difference and no one else has even made an offer on the car, it's been up since april, that is what is annoying. The only inflation prices I think are retarded is the whole drift thing skyrocketing stock/beat high mileage cars up into $3,000+ price range. I would never pay that much so it doesn't really bother me too much.

[omgjacki]

Besides, inflation or no inflation, I still complain. I bitch about gas prices daily.
*mike*

I made my mom pay the extra $0.07 per gallon this morning because the gas truck was at the cheaper one. It cost her almost $60.00 to fill up on regular :bigeek: She is still bitching about it 5 hours later. But I would be, too.

Right! I'd be pretty pissed too.
*mike*

Ugh, I have such a bad attitude when it comes to people like that.

[omgjacki]

He is right, it's not the price itself. I said in a previous post if I had the extra $100 I'd give it to him. It's just trying to deal with this guy, and negotiating the price. It's only a $100 difference and no one else has even made an offer on the car, it's been up since april, that is what is annoying. The only inflation prices I think are retarded is the whole drift thing skyrocketing stock/beat high mileage cars up into $3,000+ price range. I would never pay that much so it doesn't really bother me too much.

I wouldn't either, but it's seeing them going for that price that bothers me. It just makes it that much more difficult to find one at a reasonable price.

[IdriveBad]

Like $100 is really going to ruin the seller's life.

Exactly. Here is some quick info on the coupe I'm looking at.
- One bad spot on the passenger rocker, by the front
- Minor surface rust by sunroof
- Minor surface rust on strut towers
- Minor surface rust on framerails
- Dented passenger rear quarter
- Dented/slight surface rust by driverside taillight
- Fenders shot
- No idea on interior
- 150k give or take
- new clutch (woo...)
- All stock

I'd take the hit and buy it depsite the damages just because I really want a coupe and it's a project anyway, I dd my civic. With all this he still won't budge on $100. wtf.

[IdriveBad]

I wouldn't either, but it's seeing them going for that price that bothers me. It just makes it that much more difficult to find one at a reasonable price.

Yep. One person sees one going for $3,500 and all of a sudden their $1,000 stocker is worth $2,500 to them.

[IdriveBad]

Then you get to deal with the inflated prices. Why are you complaining?

As stated before, it wasn't about the price, it was about the negotiating only a $100 difference. And as for complaining, this is a rant thread I made, I am here to bitch. :mrgreen:

[twastheglow]

I'd even say that's a high price for that! What's that dude's deal? It's just a ****ing $100 on a car he's not going to sell anyway!
*mike*

[omgjacki]

I wouldn't even pay $800 for that. $600 maybe. Too much rust, and quarter panels are a bitch to repair. Fenders aren't a big deal, and clutches are a dime a dozen. I'm sure he just put an OEM clutch on there so it's not like he payed an arm and a leg. For real, if he doesn't come down that $100 tell him to take his $100 and his rusty ass coupe, and shove it far up his ass. Don't forget to add the GLWS.

:thumbup:

[IdriveBad]

I'm willing to take the hit and get the car because they are getting a pain to find, and I can fix the rust since it's mostly just surface. A lot of s13's I see for sale are usually rust ridden and I didn't want this car to goto waste or be junked or something because of it. I plan on doing a silvia front end (dual halogens, I hate the projectors) so the front really isn't a big deal for me. The major problems I see are the surface rust on the framerails, depending on how bad it is, he said it's slight, who knows though, and the rocker rust and dented quarter. The quarter dent is right by the door, like my old one, so it may not be too bad. He never emailed me back so I wouldn't be surprised if he never does, but if he does I'll at least give it a good look over.

[SovXietday]

I figured. I don't mean anything negative by it, it's just that I've seen a lot of different Hondas that sound very similar whereas I've seen a TON of 240s and they all sound different. I don't understand why, no matter what you do to it, every Honda sounds the same.

It's ok, I have an LS1. :-p

And it also probably comes from being around mostly 240s. I think they all sound relatively the same, SR to SR, KA to KA, RB to RB that is. Obviously with so many different engine combo's going into these things with completely different properties they're all going to sound a bit different.

Honda's are all the same engine more or less, with slightly different properties. So yeah, most of them sound similar.

Anyway, keeping on topic. Honestly, I'd set out with a certain $$$ value that you want to spend and start looking at pricing in that range. Look absolutely everywhere, cars.com, autotrader, craigslist, ebay. I don't even bother looking at forums anymore, it just doesn't work out.

I ended up finding my Camaro on ebay. Drove 3 hours one way to check it out, drove back home to bid on it. Won the car, and drove all the way back to pick it up and drive it home again. Don't settle for a bad deal just because you're tired of looking, there's always another one.:)

[IdriveBad]

It's ok, I have an LS1. :-p

And it also probably comes from being around mostly 240s. I think they all sound relatively the same, SR to SR, KA to KA, RB to RB that is. Obviously with so many different engine combo's going into these things with completely different properties they're all going to sound a bit different.

Honda's are all the same engine more or less, with slightly different properties. So yeah, most of them sound similar.

Anyway, keeping on topic. Honestly, I'd set out with a certain $$$ value that you want to spend and start looking at pricing in that range. Look absolutely everywhere, cars.com, autotrader, craigslist, ebay. I don't even bother looking at forums anymore, it just doesn't work out.

I ended up finding my Camaro on ebay. Drove 3 hours one way to check it out, drove back home to bid on it. Won the car, and drove all the way back to pick it up and drive it home again. Don't settle for a bad deal just because you're tired of looking, there's always another one.:)

Yeah, that's my current plan. I have $1200 set aside just to find a 240. I don't care if it's a shell or if it's running. I look at cars.com, autotrader, autoshopper, craigslist, and ebay everyday. I check nicoclub and zilvia, along with a few other forums, but I've never found anything. I'm sure the right deal will come along eventually, til now it's just waiting it out.

[omgjacki]

Yeah, that's my current plan. I have $1200 set aside just to find a 240. I don't care if it's a shell or if it's running. I look at cars.com, autotrader, autoshopper, craigslist, and ebay everyday. I check nicoclub and zilvia, along with a few other forums, but I've never found anything. I'm sure the right deal will come along eventually, til now it's just waiting it out.

WOW... that's like, my everyday routine.

[TurboTagTeam]

This is nuts. I just sold a nice coupe like 6 months ago. White, no rust, $1000

Should of held on to that. I'd be ritch right now.

[omgjacki]

Or you should have told Jacki about it. That would have been pretty cool.

[TurboTagTeam]

Well your a chick so your gonna want like a pink one right? :mrgreen:

[marshallpre1]

To the OP,

my best advice is to wait until the right one comes. I personally would pay a lot less for that car. I think there are many other better deals out there. The right one WILL come :) Good luck!

Jeremy

[omgjacki]

Well your a chick so your gonna want like a pink one right? :mrgreen:

Nah, I like white cars. I said that in your member journal when I commented on the paint for the coupe. So... =P

[IdriveBad]

To the OP,

my best advice is to wait until the right one comes. I personally would pay a lot less for that car. I think there are many other better deals out there. The right one WILL come :) Good luck!

Jeremy

Thanks, I'm going to end up doing that most likely. I still look everyday, so for now it's just waiting for the right deal to pop up. I guess the search continues.

[twastheglow]

Yeah, **** that guy!
*mike*

[yellow2000S/R]

I paid either $500 or $550 when I bought my 92 hatch. Everything back from the front seats were gutted, sitting on K-Sports (yea I know...), the engine had a thrown rod, and there was damage to the front right corner from a truck or something.

After pulling everything apart, only "major" rust I've found so far is passenger rear floor pan which was a ~4" hole after stabbing the rust with a screw driver, the passenger strut tower had some rust (typical), both lower insides of the tower below where the brake lines pass through there was rust (typical), and there is a small area of rust on the driver side "rail" where it kicks up at the firewall.

http://www.endlessmotorsports.net/Gallery/Shop%20Projects%20and%20Cars/1992Nissan240sx/1.JPG

http://www.endlessmotorsports.net/Gallery/Shop%20Projects%20and%20Cars/1992Nissan240sx/2.JPG

http://www.endlessmotorsports.net/Gallery/Shop%20Projects%20and%20Cars/1992Nissan240sx/Rust/PassRust.JPG

http://www.endlessmotorsports.net/Gallery/Shop%20Projects%20and%20Cars/1992Nissan240sx/EngineBay/Strut1.JPG

http://www.endlessmotorsports.net/Gallery/Shop%20Projects%20and%20Cars/1992Nissan240sx/EngineBay/Tub/Tub9.jpg



And how its been sitting since November... LOL (Lack of funds, have a job now, updates will be posted in my worklog starting in ~2 weeks)

http://www.endlessmotorsports.net/Gallery/Shop%20Projects%20and%20Cars/1992Nissan240sx/EngineBay/Tub/Tub12.jpg

[IdriveBad]

Not bad at all. I'd get another hatch, but I just want a coupe. I'm willing to wait to find one.

[IdriveBad]

Just stumbled across a black 89' coupe 5 speed with 185k for $1000. No sunroof, can't tell if it's power or manual. Waiting on an email back (I wish people would just leave phone numbers). I really want a sunroof, but I may go with this if it's all good. Wish me luck.

[twastheglow]

At this point bro, beggers can't be choosers. Well they can, but they may never find what they're looking for.
*mike*

[omgjacki]

I'm determined to find a 5spd 93 SE coupe. I guess I can keep dreaming.

[IdriveBad]

At this point bro, beggers can't be choosers. Well they can, but they may never find what they're looking for.
*mike*

Well I'm not really in a rush, I have a daily driver and this money isn't going anywhere else. I guess I just really want to find one and I'm jumping at everyone I find haha.

[Scapegoat]

wait, you said you wouldn't pay over $800 for the car, but you're up to offering $1200...

kick yourself in the ass and move on to another car.

[BlkWhtTSI]

yeah dude, just move on for real, check craigslist.org you'll find one in no time on there. in fact there one thats the same year as the one in the pics above for sale at this company right near me, its black and looks to be bone stock.

[BlkWhtTSI]

I'm determined to find a 5spd 93 SE coupe. I guess I can keep dreaming.

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/car/686706951.html

im bored

[Renegade_]

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/car/686706951.html

im bored

Not a coupe. 2500 bucks with how many miles?

[omgjacki]

Not a coupe. 2500 bucks with how many miles?

Thanks for clearing that up. I was about to =)

[BlkWhtTSI]

ok sorry, i don't know how many miles just saw it on my search for a nice granny car to drive daily

[BlkWhtTSI]

here a coupe with 170k though : / ok im done time to put up this stupid basketball hoop for my sister.

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/car/674154373.html

[IdriveBad]

Going to check out an 89 coupe tomorrow after work. It's an auto, blown motor, power everything with power sunroof. Guys asking $750, I'm bringing cash. I only want the shell so I don't care if it's auto or 5 spd. Looks pretty mint from the pics, has a little bit of surface rust by the rear license plate and ****, but that's nothing. Has about 120k if I recall correctly. Hoping this one is better then the others.

[IdriveBad]

Wanted to make an update. The original guy I posted about with the beat coupe emailed me yesterday and today. He said he would take $1200 haha. After a month he finally budged $100 (start of ad was 4/30). I told him I found a clean shell for cheap and that I told him I wasn't going to wait around for a car that needed that kind of tlc. He said no need to make smart remarks. Oh well I guess. But hey, I'll be nice, I'd give him $500 for it now but not a penny more.

[IdriveBad]

sucks alot man

Meh, that car was pretty rough. My new coupe > his coupe.

[TommyBDragon]

I hate waiting around for dead beat sellers. I feel the pain. Ever since I got rid of my RX-7 back in 02, I have been looking for another one as decent as the one I had. Yeah...I am still looking. Seems everytime I find something decent I dont have the funds, and when I do they are all rust buckets.

[IdriveBad]

My friend and I just drove an hour away to check out a 240 for him. We waited a friggin' hour for this guy and he doesn't show. He won't answer calls or anything. I can't stand people.

[Slo240]

****ty situation I know how it is. I've owned my 240 for a little over 2 years now. I spent a year and a half looking. Same boat as Jacki. Dead set on a 93 Coupe. Every single one was ass rape back then too. The price hike on s13's is nothing new. I remember some asshole trying to sell me his 89 Coupe for 3,200$ Smoker, Completely rusted, Framerail rot. He kept ranting about how rare the OEM two tone Seafoam Green/ Metallic Grey was.

I got really lucky when a friend of mine told me his brother crashed his swapped integra and just needed money to buy a CRX so he could save his motor. Sold me his 91' SE LE for 1,500$ Power everything, extreamly clean with 108k on the ODO. It was a hatch but I fell for it the minute I saw it. I hated Hatches untill I got mine. Now I've got mad 3dr love. Don't get me wrong I still feel for my Coupe Bretherin, and Sister... It'll be plural once Jacki finally gets one. Her and Verena Mei will be the only ones :-p

Good look with your search man, If you're looking for a project and can afford the downtime, Hunt local junk yards too. I mean there usually 500$ for a chassis. I've seen so many s13's, AE86. AW11, SW20... goto waste there. Especally the few local u-pull-it's.

[IdriveBad]

I've never seen a 240 at a junkyard, I'd be all over it. My friend found one and is going to check it out this weekend. It's a 90 hatch, 5 speed, power everything, no sunroof. Just hit 150k, body is pretty clean along with interior, has the stock lip too. Guy wants $1900, we're heading up with $1800 cash and seeing what happens. It's making me tempted to just buy an SR and drop it in my coupe, but I want to work on my DD right now cause I actually drive that.

[cwd240]

as it's been said a million times in this thread, 240's are ridiculously overpriced because of the jdm fanboy ****.......


However, sometimes paying a little extra for a stock unmolested chassis with decent miles could be worth it's weight in gold down the road. I can't tell you how many times I've seen people cheap out and pay $800 for a 240 and then a few years down the road after they have swapped it and dumped a bunch of money into it, had unrepairable frame rot or other issues.

I bought mine close to 6 years ago now, and I payed a decent amount for mine. It was a cali car with 76k, and I can say that my last 6 trouble free years are worth the extra money I paid for it.

[TurboTagTeam]

I think they're holding value becasue people are realizing that it is a good, not hugely expensive, RWD platform with a HUGE amount of aftermarket support.

Compared to 2 door RWD cars of simular price...240's kick ass.

[IdriveBad]

as it's been said a million times in this thread, 240's are ridiculously overpriced because of the jdm fanboy ****.......


However, sometimes paying a little extra for a stock unmolested chassis with decent miles could be worth it's weight in gold down the road. I can't tell you how many times I've seen people cheap out and pay $800 for a 240 and then a few years down the road after they have swapped it and dumped a bunch of money into it, had unrepairable frame rot or other issues.

I bought mine close to 6 years ago now, and I payed a decent amount for mine. It was a cali car with 76k, and I can say that my last 6 trouble free years are worth the extra money I paid for it.

What about $700 for a stock unmolested automatic coupe haha? While yes, there is a little bit of rust, the rest of the car is in great condition and it's just under 116k. I agree with you that I would save up and wait for a stock untouched car rather then buy a piece, but there are deals out there, sometimes you find them sometimes you don't.

[cwd240]

What about $700 for a stock unmolested automatic coupe haha? While yes, there is a little bit of rust, the rest of the car is in great condition and it's just under 116k. I agree with you that I would save up and wait for a stock untouched car rather then buy a piece, but there are deals out there, sometimes you find them sometimes you don't.

That's definitely not a bad deal, but then again you have to realize that it is auto (which takes time and money to switch over to 5-speed). I'm not saying you can't find good deals out there, you can with any type of car, it just depends on how long you want to look.

[IdriveBad]

That's definitely not a bad deal, but then again you have to realize that it is auto (which takes time and money to switch over to 5-speed). I'm not saying you can't find good deals out there, you can with any type of car, it just depends on how long you want to look.

I didn't care if it was auto or 5 speed because I only bought it for the shell. At least I know this car wasn't beat on or modded up by some teenager who wants to drift. While yes, I wish it was a 5 speed, I have no problem swapping it and it's getting an SR anyway. I'm giving this car a nice new home and a brand new heart. A 5 speed swap isn't that hard/expensive compared to other swaps out there. I don't mind spending a little extra though, I'm doing everything right the first time.