Warminster autocross, June 1st (Philadelphia Region)

[jcr557]

This is my first post with this username, i was a member back in the day but could not remember my username or email i used so i created a new one.

Theres going to be an autocross on Sunday, June 1st in Warminster, PA which is like 10 minutes away from northeast Philly. You can have a stock car to race or a car with mods, it doesn't matter.

Registration if your not a SCCA member is $30 + $15 for a weekend membership. So not being a member pretty much costs $45. The good thing is that you can use those $15 towards your actual membership if you decide to join after the event. To become and actual member it costs $80.

Warminster is a nice open field, i believe the place was an airstrip a while ago but is now a closed park which the region uses for us to participate. I've been there before and it is fun.

Im making this post to invite some of you people to come out and have fun.

[tdmopar59]

i think i might come out to this... but i think i will just spectate considering my current vehicle!

[Zillon]

I'm going to try to make it out.

[tcturbo91]

i may actually be around for this. can you register on the day of, not pre registration?

[psushoe]

Yes, you can register day of, but I believe they'll only take cash (no checks or cc). If you prereg, you pay be cc. I'll be up for the event. Warminster courses are usually fun and fast, so come out and have a good time!

[Vypurr]

Goddam it! That is my first day at my new job!

[DPancoast]

if I can work it out, I'll be there. New suspension on the duece... Dying to autox...

Just gotta hope my endlinks show up this week.

[SvicksTc]

ill probably come out out and try it out i always wanted to give this a whirl and an open course like this will give me some room to mess up hahaha trying to get some people to roll with me

[sean350z]

I'll be there for sure...already missed three to breaking in my engine...errrggh

[piknockout]

I'll be at the WDCR event on the 1st, but hopefully I can make the Holbert Memorial in August. Unfortunately, Philly scheduled all their events on the same day as WDCR events. An hour to Fed Ex Field, or 2 hours to Warminster. Hmmm...you know what I'm choosing. :wink:

[OutOfStock]

Ugh this is the TST meet so ill be there. I never ran warminster and its literally 2 minutes from my house

[PaleDSM]

I'll be there running.

[FocusDude]

I'll be out there on the first, then in Blackwood for South Jersey events the following weekend June 8th!

[psushoe]

I'll be out there on the first, then in Blackwood for South Jersey events the following weekend June 8th!

Same here! Trying to get this thing dialed in before the DC Pro in June.

[psushoe]

I'll be there for sure...already missed three to breaking in my engine...errrggh

I missed two for that. Well, two with the motor out at the shop, then I did a weekend reassembly and drove the crap out of it for a week to make the last event. Kept the boost low since it was raining. By next weekend, I should have it back up to 15-18psi :cool:

[TalonTsi97]

Should be there watching like usual.
Erik, which car you bringing?

[PaleDSM]

Black car Chip.

[piknockout]

Ugh this is the TST meet so ill be there. I never ran warminster and its literally 2 minutes from my house

You sir, are a fool. To be lucky enough to have that many events that close to your home, there should be very little reason for missing them.

I could have been lucky to be in the same situation, but right after I moved to Aberdeen they stopped allowing us to run there. :mad:

[OutOfStock]

eh maybe ill be at the next one, it always works out I have work the day they are at warminster. Not to mention the tires on my car are horrid, and im poor

[arkadyzv]

What time does this start? Do I need a helmet?

[FocusDude]

What time does this start? Do I need a helmet?

There a free loaner helmets at the event. AM registration is at 8am, PM registration starts at 11:15am.

[FocusDude]

Not to mention the tires on my car are horrid, and im poor

You should come see my tires, the roll over is insane- its still fun as hell though!

[wheresmycar]

I want to check out autocrossing for the first time. Is there a spectator fee? Just parking?

My tired are almost done and if I did this I'm sure driving home on bald tires isn't a great idea.

[012.5RS]

Ugh this is the TST meet so ill be there. I never ran warminster and its literally 2 minutes from my house

me too man, hopin to make the meet but might be driving up to 1320 to drop my engine off. Hope I can squeeze it in.

[PaleDSM]

I want to check out autocrossing for the first time. Is there a spectator fee? Just parking?

My tired are almost done and if I did this I'm sure driving home on bald tires isn't a great idea.

No fee to watch or park.

[den9]

where exactly is this? they never have addresses or directions

[piknockout]

Sure they do, here you go. :wink:

http://www.phillyscca.com/directions/directions.htm#Warminster

[Zillon]

Registered!

#22 STS!

[DPancoast]

what time do these go until?

I'll have to back out on this one since the holiday ate up a day of work... But if this goes late enough I could possibly swing by to watch the end haha...

Either way, I'll be out in July pending there's an event between June 28 and July 6th haha... My work closes :)

[Zillon]

Schedule runs until 5:30, so I'd show up before then. :)

[Roadkilled75]

I probably won't make this one. Coming back from Jersey around 1am that morning, and Warminster is an hour and a half from me, and GS runs first heat. Grr.

Plus the integra is falling apart at the moment, caught between moving expenses and first paycheck at a new job :( Not even sure if it would pass the Warminster noise restrictions, because the stock muffler's internals gave out last week.

[10tenths]

If I don't go to Allentown I'll be there.

[Charged SVTF]

I havent ran since the first event and wont be running at this one since tires have not arrived and suspension is not on still. Kinda stinks, So ill probably roll up and say hello to everyone.

Anyone want to let me co-drive?!?!?

[PaleDSM]

Last minute weekend plan change. I'll have to skip this one as well. Tomorrow is perfect air show weather.

[Charged SVTF]

Where is the air show? Can I co drive?!?!?

[TalonTsi97]

I wont even be swinging by to watch. Got work at 2:30 and wanna take care of some things on my car in the morning. have fun, hopefully someone takes pics and post them up.

[PaleDSM]

Air show is at McGuire outside of Trenton. Was supposed to go today and then run tomorrow but the weather today forces me to go to the airshow tomorrow.

[DPancoast]

my aunt is sometimes asked to go to McGuire (she's captain in the airforce).... I love that airbase.

[shuttlegoose]

i just saw on the website that the registration is closed, does that mean i wont be able to go? also whats the difference between the 8am and the 11am. is it better to go to the early one?

[Roto]

Registration is closed online. You'll still be able to walk-up and register until the cap is met. The difference between the 8am and 11pm is that there are 4 heats. You need to find out which class you're in and that will determine which session is right for you. If you can't wake up early you can always say you will run NC (non-comp) and show up for the later one, but you still have to run one heat and work the other one.

[FocusDude]

Unfortunately, Philly scheduled all their events on the same day as WDCR events.

They were just scared of ya-

A in-car video of a terrible run of 60.240-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbeLR-LU3dg

That damn AS Solstice hit a 49.5ish :eek: I left before PM session started. But that was about FTD for the AM session. It was quite a interesting course, my first run, I lost it in the last set of 3 offsets before the finish-:mrgreen:

[Zillon]

I had a blast.

I will be back. Hopefully with a more competitive setup... was definitely a good day to see where I stand though. :mrgreen:

[CleanNeon98]

ill make the next one...i swear
you can auto-x with the top down right

[TROLL]

ah hope you guys had fun, and i hope i'm at the next one...

[Zillon]

ill make the next one...i swear
you can auto-x with the top down right

Actually... you might need a rollbar for the Miata.

I'll have to check the rules.

[FocusDude]

ill make the next one...i swear
Sure. Sure.

you can auto-x with the top down right
is there any other way? with a vert. that is-

[CleanNeon98]

Sure. Sure.


is there any other way? with a vert. that is-
Well im thinking I might need a rollbar

[sean350z]

It was a great course...as Warminster is always a great course. I need to be quicker on throttle but all in all it was fun and the weather was great. Someone stole my number in SM...errr

Best time - 53.8

Anyone interested in heat 1 pics look here http://www.flickr.com/photos/autox4u/sets/72157605377045284/

[Zillon]

Sean:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d140/zillon3/AutoX/6-1-08%20Warminster/sccax-003.jpg

[sean350z]

Zillion - I saw your Scion in the lot...it looks nice. I've always wanted a cool subcompact and those Xb's are nice looking, I liked the gold and white combo. Didn't get to see you run though. Thanks for the pic. I think I need to lower her a little more, by looking at the pic, but that would screw my corner weights :)

[DPancoast]

I hope to be out on June 13th. It's really hard to do Sundays with my work schedule :(

I hope I can go with the tops out!

[Zillon]

Zillion - I saw your Scion in the lot...it looks nice. I've always wanted a cool subcompact and those Xb's are nice looking, I liked the gold and white combo. Didn't get to see you run though. Thanks for the pic. I think I need to lower her a little more, by looking at the pic, but that would screw my corner weights :)

Thanks! I loved your S14... quick on the track, and I love the stance. I saw it sitting back there after you swapped the Works back on. Very sexy.

PS - It's an xA. :-p

[DPancoast]

THEY'RE ALL THE SAME!

lolz, jk man.... I <3 your little egg

[Zillon]

E'r body lubs teh egg.

Dan, you better be there on the 13th. And you can run without the T-tops, I do believe. I saw a few other mister two's doing it.

[Zillon]

Here are a few of my photos from today: Click! (http://s34.photobucket.com/albums/d140/zillon3/AutoX/6-1-08%20Warminster/)

[FocusDude]

Well im thinking I might need a rollbar

As long as the front windshield and A-pillars are intact, I'm just about positive you will not need a roll bar. I've seen plenty of showroom stock convertibles out around the course with out a bar.

[PaleDSM]

Nope, no roll bar. I run top down with no roll bar every time.

[DPancoast]

maybe they think you have a hard head? lolz

[jrtcbmw]

i was there and the course was great, fast.

had fun up to the point where the car broke on course.

but other then that it was a fun course

Jason

[FocusDude]

What happened to your car, saw you stick on course- but never found out why?

[jrtcbmw]

What happened to your car, saw you stick on course- but never found out why?

One of the known problems with the e36 bmws is their cooling systems, they are a weak point in the car. they recommend every 75k replace everything. i have 110k on my car and i was running on hopes and dreams.

the neck on the radiator broke and blew off. rendering the car and rad useless.

Im not as pissed that it happened more irritated that the course workers allowed the car to continue to run even when a visible trail of fluid was pouring out of the car. they should have red flagged my codriver and stopped the car, instead of letting it finish the course, spilling fluid all over the course and putting everyone in danger.

[DPancoast]

wow man thats crazy. Im sorry to hear about you car!

how do the lotus' do? I luv dem.

[Charged SVTF]

One of the known problems with the e36 bmws is their cooling systems, they are a weak point in the car. they recommend every 75k replace everything. i have 110k on my car and i was running on hopes and dreams.

the neck on the radiator broke and blew off. rendering the car and rad useless.

Im not as pissed that it happened more irritated that the course workers allowed the car to continue to run even when a visible trail of fluid was pouring out of the car. they should have red flagged my codriver and stopped the car, instead of letting it finish the course, spilling fluid all over the course and putting everyone in danger.

It was wierd. I had my camera zoomed in on ya and didnt see anything pooring out. Of course I was on the other side. Could you see it when you drove back the other way? Was crazy either way and your car was running smooth Sunday too. Good driving to both you and Alex

[jrtcbmw]

It was wierd. I had my camera zoomed in on ya and didnt see anything pooring out. Of course I was on the other side. Could you see it when you drove back the other way? Was crazy either way and your car was running smooth Sunday too. Good driving to both you and Alex


We have a video of the runs, and in the run it happened, you can see white smoke coming out from under the car when it blew off and then again a couple times thought out the rest of the run.

Thank you.

[Charged SVTF]

Youtube those videos!

[psushoe]

It was a great course...as Warminster is always a great course. I need to be quicker on throttle but all in all it was fun and the weather was great. Someone stole my number in SM...errr

Best time - 53.8

Anyone interested in heat 1 pics look here http://www.flickr.com/photos/autox4u/sets/72157605377045284/

You pulled a nice run out at the end, Sean. That car is looking and sounding good this year! I'm working to rebalance after putting the bigger tires and front struts on, so hopefully I'll give you a better run for the money. This was my first event with the setup in the dry (ran boeing in the rain a few weeks ago) and it was understeering. I dialed a little of it out in some afternoon non-comp runs... got that 54.4 down to a few 53.6s, but still some work to do. This should be a fun season (will you be at all the warminster events?).

[psushoe]

They were just scared of ya-

A in-car video of a terrible run of 60.240-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbeLR-LU3dg

That damn AS Solstice hit a 49.5ish :eek: I left before PM session started. But that was about FTD for the AM session. It was quite a interesting course, my first run, I lost it in the last set of 3 offsets before the finish-:mrgreen:

You need to turn in sooner... a lot sooner. You should be trying to hit the last cone in those offsets with your back tire. Be angry at those cones... try to run them over! :lol:

As for the solstice... Dave Heinig is an animal. That's all I can say :eek:

[PaleDSM]

The owner of that Solstice is a former MR2 Spyder owner. Anyone running at Warminster a few years ago may have seen him kicking ass and taking names with a turbo Spyder.
Next time out I am going to try to get him to take me for a spin in my own car at the end of the day. Really show me how you are supposed to drive one of these things. =)

[FocusDude]

You need to turn in sooner... a lot sooner. You should be trying to hit the last cone in those offsets with your back tire. Be angry at those cones... try to run them over! :lol:

I try- maybe I could get you to ride with me next time I'm out. I held to much speed my first run coming back from the turn around... through the last set of offsets I put the ass end out front and I think that caused me to hesitate the next 3...

It's sad- last year I drove with a guy named Rob from NNJR in his zx2. We then went out in my car and I shaved almost 1.5secs off my time and I was like a sec behind him (which made me happy). That was the last T&T of 2007, and as much as it stuck in my head over the winter- I can't bring myself back up to that speed- RAWR!


As for the solstice... Dave Heinig is an animal. That's all I can say :eek:

O I know Dave is fast, and have come to accept it :) And it's great! I love hearing Rob complain about him, and threatening to kick him out of his GXP and back to BSP!



O O O - to make myself feel better I keep on saying my shatty kuhmo/hankook tire setup need to be replaced. And that in itself, I think holds me back quite a bit from pushing to the limits. Well it makes me feel better, maybe!

[FocusDude]

Anyone up for South Jersey Region (Camden County Community College) on June 8th?

[Zillon]

Anyone up for South Jersey Region (Camden County Community College) on June 8th?

I would be, since it's close... but I'm heading to Danville for a mountain bike race on the 8th.

[DPancoast]

oy... auto-x with bad endlinks?... i hate fighting with myself about my car lol

[psushoe]

I'm trying to locate some higher rate springs for my car... if that happens I'll be out this weekend to sjr or next to nnjr to tweak the setup. The off weekend will be spent at the strip practicing launches for the ProSolo in three weeks.

[piknockout]

Oh snap! I forgot about the practice time. The Wed. before the Pro then on the 18th? Perhaps we shouldn't leave it to chance, how about next Wed. on the 11th? Possibly that Friday the 13th...oh wait, that may be a bad idea. :mrgreen:

Also I saw this earlier in the thread, but convertibles do not have to have a roll cage in stock class, or in STS2. But in SM2, SP*, and Prepared classes I think they do. Just double check the rulebook at www.scca.com and you'll find the answer.

[psushoe]

I'm thinking this saturday morning, since I doubt I'll get springs in time. It cost a little more, but you get more runs. Either that or next wed the 11th if the weather is good.

[piknockout]

Let's try for the 11th. :wink:

[sean350z]

You pulled a nice run out at the end, Sean. That car is looking and sounding good this year! I'm working to rebalance after putting the bigger tires and front struts on, so hopefully I'll give you a better run for the money. This was my first event with the setup in the dry (ran boeing in the rain a few weeks ago) and it was understeering. I dialed a little of it out in some afternoon non-comp runs... got that 54.4 down to a few 53.6s, but still some work to do. This should be a fun season (will you be at all the warminster events?).

Aaron-
I didn't think the car had it in it...I dropped pressure my last run and it seemed to help some in the front. I still have a lot of driver issues to work out as well. The motor feels good but I was a little hesitant on the throttle coming out of the zig zag in the beginning and the chicago boxes at the end. My new turbo is a laggier than my previous stock 28 but it seems to be helping me control traction on the 255s.

Those wide tires will do you good once you get dialed in. 53.6 is nice but I know you had it in you for a 52 something seeing Mike was at 51.

I'll be at (hopefully) the rest of the Philly events and I want to try to make a few SJ events too.

[russiankid]

One of the known problems with the e36 bmws is their cooling systems, they are a weak point in the car. they recommend every 75k replace everything. i have 110k on my car and i was running on hopes and dreams.

the neck on the radiator broke and blew off. rendering the car and rad useless.

Im not as pissed that it happened more irritated that the course workers allowed the car to continue to run even when a visible trail of fluid was pouring out of the car. they should have red flagged my codriver and stopped the car, instead of letting it finish the course, spilling fluid all over the course and putting everyone in danger.

Let me guess it was the upper hose? My brother had this issue on his 535i, luckily his pipe broke off and he started to smell coolant and pulled over on time. Didn't blow the HG, which are easy to blow I hear.

Anyways, I should come out to the next one to be a spectator.

[jrtcbmw]

Let me guess it was the upper hose? My brother had this issue on his 535i, luckily his pipe broke off and he started to smell coolant and pulled over on time. Didn't blow the HG, which are easy to blow I hear.

Anyways, I should come out to the next one to be a spectator.

Yup where the upper rad hose connects to the radiator, the neck itself broke off. Car didnt over heat just poured coolant all over the track. its home right now up on stands and awaiting time to pull everything out and order a whole new cooling system.

[russiankid]

Yup where the upper rad hose connects to the radiator, the neck itself broke off. Car didnt over heat just poured coolant all over the track. its home right now up on stands and awaiting time to pull everything out and order a whole new cooling system.

Yeah my brother said those inlet pipes are known to break off. Good luck fixing it!

[psushoe]

Aaron-
I didn't think the car had it in it...I dropped pressure my last run and it seemed to help some in the front. I still have a lot of driver issues to work out as well. The motor feels good but I was a little hesitant on the throttle coming out of the zig zag in the beginning and the chicago boxes at the end. My new turbo is a laggier than my previous stock 28 but it seems to be helping me control traction on the 255s.

Those wide tires will do you good once you get dialed in. 53.6 is nice but I know you had it in you for a 52 something seeing Mike was at 51.

I'll be at (hopefully) the rest of the Philly events and I want to try to make a few SJ events too.


I was hoping to get into the 52's as well, but the nut behind the wheel was a little loose. I think getting a better balance to the car and a lot of seat time can help me knock a few ticks off the clock. I can only see you and the s14 getting faster, so I'm just trying to keep up! :mrgreen:

[psushoe]

BTW, I've got a tire pyrometer if you want to check temps next time out. I just got it and started playing around, but it'll help get the most out of your tires.