Need to Borrow a 77mm CP filter

[grimm]

This is super short notice but... anyone have a 77mm Circular Polarization filter I can use for tomorrow. The kit i want to order will take 2 weeks to get to me. :(

if not I will end up buying a cheapo one at B&H.

[TROLL]

i have one you can borrow... but what 'kit' are you planning to get? and whats a 'cheapo' one?

[grimm]

That would be great bryan.
edit- Will you be around tonight so i can pick it up? i can meet you at your work if needed? (maybe the pulley as well?)

As far as the kit i want to order. it's the Tiffen 77mm DV Select Filter Kit 3 (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/490936-REG/Tiffen_77DVSK3_77mm_DV_Select_Filter.html)
And the "Cheapo" one i was looking at is: Tiffen 77mm Circular Polarizing Glass Filter (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/56637-REG/Tiffen_77CP_77mm_Circular_Polarizing_Glass.html)

[namdoogwerdna]

i have the tiffen filter but my lenses are a different size. it was only 25 bucks and it works well.

[TROLL]

i'll be home after 8 which is where the filter and they pulley are...
i'm pretty sure i have that tiffen filter, or it might be a hoya, not sure.
i'm interested to see what you think of the graduated nd and how useful it is for you. i've thought about picking one up but i feel like a cokin filter system might be more useful (although also more expensive and not as compact for all around use).

[grimm]

Ok great. if you can, call me when you get home and I can meet you there.

yea i'm siked about getting these. I actually found a place that will get them to me by mid week next week. And for less then what B&H was selling them for.

[howielong]

Yea get back to us how that ND filter works. I've been looking at a few filter systems lately. Oh and that "kit" you linked to, the price is the same amount or close to to the amount I paid for my 77mm C-PL filter. :(

[lagos]

i have the tiffen filter but my lenses are a different size. it was only 25 bucks and it works well.

x2... I have a cheap 20$ kit and it works perfectly. I dont know how someone could justify spending almost 200bucks on the same thing.

[YellowMSP]

i have the b+w 77mm cpl if you still needed one to borrow

[grimm]

i think troll has me covered thanks though.

[i like rice]

Those Tiffen kits aren't worth the money. My brother bought a set and I wasn't impressed with the quality of the filter itself and the image quality from the images. The aluminum ring isn't sturdy like the brass used on B+W and Hoya. Most are not coated, so expect additional flare and lack-of-contrast with the uncoated filter on your lens.

Save up and get a B+W & Hoya. There is a reason why they cost 2-3x as much.

[i like rice]

x2... I have a cheap 20$ kit and it works perfectly. I dont know how someone could justify spending almost 200bucks on the same thing.

Cheap filters are more likely to seize on your lens. Not a fun job in removing a seized filter.

I don't have it bookmarked, but there is a website that did extensive controlled testing on several brands to show the difference.

[grimm]

well i'll see how they do. i figure they are mid range quality, i'm not expecting it to delivery the quality of a $200 filter. but i never shot owned or used any filters before, so i want to get my feet wet with a variety before diving in on particulars. if they end up to be crappy they'll be in the classifieds :)

[S4toSTI]

Did you end up getting bryans?

[grimm]

yea he let me borrow his.

[S4toSTI]

Ok awesome just making sure.

[grimm]

;) thanks man.

[raceMpower95]

Yeah, for what it's worth, I have the B+W 77mm CPL and its amazing. I have used my fair share of Tiffen, Sunpak, Quantaray, Promaster, etc, and none of them come close. Every time I used one of those, I noticed a significant loss in image quality, particularly sharpness and color rendition. Granted, they were on the front of L glass, which without any filter looks very good, so I am used to having good quality. The B+W is really top-notch though. I also have a B+W UV filter on all my lenses for protection. Again, if you're putting it between the subject and the lens, spend the money for high quality glass. Otherwise it's like shooting through a car window.

[grimm]

Well I may be canceling my order. It's been just about a week and tiffen hasn't even shipped the filter set to the retailer. I'm looking at some B&W filters to replace the kit.

Oh and Bryan, I will drop it off tonight, it was pouring last night on my way home, and didn't want to leave it in the rain.

[TROLL]

Yeah, for what it's worth, I have the B+W 77mm CPL and its amazing. I have used my fair share of Tiffen, Sunpak, Quantaray, Promaster, etc, and none of them come close. Every time I used one of those, I noticed a significant loss in image quality, particularly sharpness and color rendition. Granted, they were on the front of L glass, which without any filter looks very good, so I am used to having good quality. The B+W is really top-notch though. I also have a B+W UV filter on all my lenses for protection. Again, if you're putting it between the subject and the lens, spend the money for high quality glass. Otherwise it's like shooting through a car window.

all the tests i've ever seen on filters cant discern a difference at all, even when analyzed closer than the human eye could ever tell. you're talking about a single piece of flat glass thats maybe 1/32" thick. its not the same as comparing lenses which have up to 10 or more glass elements inside, some of which can be 1/8" or 1/4" thick each and are concave/convex to bend light and have to deal with many other issues.
i've got to guess that the differences you 'see' are just a placebo effect...

[grimm]

Well i am told that they will ship them direct to me so I'm holding out and going to see what happens.

[grimm]

just to re-cap. i got the filters last Friday. The build quality isn't so bad. The glass it self seems pretty darn good. I haven't noticed a loss of sharpness. I did a bunch of test shots on the same object to gauge what each filter looked like in comparison. i will post them up once i download them and re-size them. All in all I'm happy with them, and as long as I am patient with them i don't think i'll have a seizing issue. I like the combo of the Black promist and the circ polarizer. The neutral density easily gave you another stop, but I haven't really spent much time with it.