Official Domestics vs. Imports ish talking thread...

[TROLL]

ok lets see what you got tough guys. this thread and this thread only is for all of your bashing and talking smack. i will not tolerate it anywhere else, so i hope you get your jollies here...
i personally think i could outhandle any domestic on here on a road course, any day of the week. going fast in a straight line takes a strong car, going fast in the turns takes a strong driver :cool:
bryan

[teh DIRT]

hey guys guys! guess what!





















my car can turn! not just drive in a straight line!

[1988 Olds]

If you can still turn you ain't going fast enough. There is no way I can keep up with any of you guys through the turns.

[Intercooled T]

Forget the road course....all about the straight line! hehe

1988 Olds said it right, if you can turn, you aren't going fast enough

:thumbup: :cool:

[SEVENDMACH1]

http://www.mustangmods.com/data/85/capri_on_gdr.jpg

See what it says on the bottom of the picture. I did my turns in a Offenhouser Powered Midget on dirt tracks from 1969-1972. I grew our of that an now I go fast... :banana:

[MuddyREX]

I can go fast in my car, and turn. In dirt. :finga: :finga:

[criz]

I can go fast in my car, and turn. In dirt. :finga: :finga:

...and in snow, rain... all while pushin full boost and screaming YEE HAW

[ixlr811s]

I can go fast in my car, and turn. In dirt. :finga: :finga:

...and in snow, rain... all while pushin full boost and screaming YEE HAW

Me too!!! If I turn down the boost. :finga:

[stichris]

I had a 70 mach1. Shouldn't have sold it!@$ Your car is gorgeous!

Either way, I don't think the STi has trouble going in a straight line, or turning, or stopping ;)

I have love for some domestics. New Cobra is sick, sick, sick. Guy went on the rally, putting down ~450rwhp with bolt ons. I loved driving that car.

Chris

[SEVENDMACH1]

It's too hard to turn with my wheels in the air!!!!

[Orbit]

that's were all wheel drive come into play :finga:

[MuddyREX]

It's too hard to turn with my wheels in the air!!!!

True True!!!!! :supz:

that's were all wheel drive come into play

But even with all wheel drive, you can't steer with the fronts off the ground. ;)

[naSTI]

Ehemm.. I think the Ford GT can turn at 180+ with no problems.

I can enjoy my car year 'round and don't need a second vehicle to tow it around!!!!!!

Sure, I'd probably never see 9's or 10's, but I can do high 11's all the time: on my way to work, dinner, movie in ALMOST ANY conditions outside with the right tires.

But my message is simple: if you have a fast car, run it hard! :finga:

./Da Bomber

[SEVENDMACH1]

If you see either of my cars on a trailer, call the cops, cause they're being stolen. Silly Yuppies, trailers are for BOATS!!!!

[Vypurr]

I got love for the NICE imports, other than that, i despise most of them...

List of nice imports:
- EVO
- STI (some regular WRXs)
- Silvia
- TT Supra
- DSM
- R32
- Turbo Rotary's

List of Hated Imports:
- Civic (Even the SI/SI-Rice)
- Non TT Supra
- Accord
- S2000 (unless modded)
- Lancer
- Sentra
- Non-Turbo RX-7
- RX-8 (Dropped the ball...:()
- RSX (sorry, have yet to see a fast one!)
- Non-Turbo Eclipse
- Celica (Made for secretary's!)

Impartial:
- GTI (among various VWs)

More to come as I think of them!

[SilverTurboRidin]

integras :D

[Aaron]

List of Hated Imports:

- Non TT Supra



I got one that will make you hate them even more :devil:



Oh and how you're impartial to the gti and hate the s2000 is beyond me. :D

[Prototype240]

Vypurr...I agree with your ENTIRE list except for the Non-turbo rotaries.

Four characters come to mind:

787B

:P

[Vypurr]

Care to educate me? (I learn better from videos!)

[kef]

the 787B was Mazda's Entry into LeMans in 91'. It was an NA rotary powered rocket, I belive it made somthing like 600bhp. More importantly it is the ONLY Japanese produced car to EVER win the 24 hour race. LeMans saw it fit to create rules that elminated non-otto engines in 92'.

On a completly diffrent note... I thought this thread was for some **** talking.. I'm pretty disappointed so far.

[kef]

http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/787B/ <--787B info

[PSI Chick]

sorry, but i can't stand the whole "i can turn better than you" argument. sounds like owners trying to make up for their lack of tourque. :lol: i can turn really good too when i'm doing it at 30mph! i could care less about turning abilities, you aren't doing sharp turns when racing on the highway or the street, and definetly not at the drag strip. what good is it to be able to turn well when you're getting you butt kicked on the street?

now an sti and possibly a wrx if done correctly...those are good imports to me. they are quick and have good handling. that i like. if i had the cash i would get an sti, i've always loved that car.

i am not a fan of the evo. i have driven it and i think it was very hyped up with it arrived here and the car is a disappointment compared to what was expected (and seen in japan), especially for the price tag. i'd take my srt over an evo any day. it's sad when one of the most sought after cars finally comes to the us and can get its butt handed to it by a 20k neon (yes it really can. i beat two evos when i was stock, and i wasn't stock for long).

[wrx_snobordr]

I got love for the NICE imports, other than that, i despise most of them...

List of nice imports:
- EVO
- STI (some regular WRXs)
- Silvia
- TT Supra
- DSM
- R32
- Turbo Rotary's

List of Hated Imports:
- Civic (Even the SI/SI-Rice)
- Non TT Supra
- Accord
- S2000 (unless modded)
- Lancer
- Sentra
- Non-Turbo RX-7
- RX-8 (Dropped the ball...:()
- RSX (sorry, have yet to see a fast one!)
- Non-Turbo Eclipse
- Celica (Made for secretary's!)

Impartial:
- GTI (among various VWs)

More to come as I think of them!

Im gonna have to go ahead and disagree with this comment!! What are you basing your hatred off of? I hope its not because some of them are slow or have the ability to be riced out? I mean **** dude, look at all the domestic rice. you have the great mustangs with the gtr badges on them, the cavaliers, sunfires and neons with some of the worst body kits ever and all in an attempt to look more import-esque. Atleast with a honda you have the ability to swap in one of their higher output motors and walk all over the above mentioned domestic rice. Oh and the honda will still be a reliable daily driver. i also must point out that the only reason the car you are driving exists is because of the pressure that was put on the domestic market by the import market. Its whole concept is based off of import cars.. you know low displacement turbo. Why hate? i can see how you may dislike some of the people and the stupid things they do to the cars but if thats the case you have to hate all cars, every car will have a goup of people that do dumb things!!!

[wrx_snobordr]

now an sti and possibly a wrx if done correctly...those are good imports to me. they are quick and have good handling. that i like. if i had the cash i would get an sti, i've always loved that car.

Since this is the ish talking thread i have to ask. Are you aware that your car essentially is an import? The parent company of dodge is daimler/chrysler... a predomenantly german owned and operated company. Also, they have no assembly plants in the united states, only in mexico and canada, as I understand it. By those standards the hondas you all love to hate so much are more american than your srt-4 because atleast they are assembled in the usa.

[84camaro]

i have respect for all cars.. its all about what you like...if your into doing cricles then do that...and if you like going straight then do that..both take alot of skill so i dont make fun of either one...and about that list of hated and not hated inports...if even one riced out the same 5 cars it would start to get really gay...

[Jesse99]

Guess what...my car can turn to! Haha hence the ws6...the handling package actually works!

[PSI Chick]

the srt-4 is built in the belvidere, il plant. all neons are built there. last time i checked, illinois was part of the us. i think it might have been one of those red states, but technically it's the same country.

i don't hate hondas. i hate their owners. there's nothing wrong with the cars themselves. there's something definetly wrong with the fast and furious morons who put 9 foot wings on them and stickers and think they have a 10 second car. i have to laugh at a car that has 100 hp and like 40 tq, i just find it amusing. but there are some fast honda's out there, but those are the ones with engine swaps and turbos. 99% of civic owners aren't going to put that kind of cash into their cars.

[wrx_snobordr]

Ah, so they are. I was going off of information i heard in a presentation in one of my classes, I guess they didnt do all their research.

[Jesse99]

haha I like psichick!

i don't hate hondas. i hate their owners. there's nothing wrong with the cars themselves. there's something definetly wrong with the fast and furious morons who put 9 foot wings on them and stickers and think they have a 10 second car. i have to laugh at a car that has 100 hp and like 40 tq, i just find it amusing. but there are some fast honda's out there, but those are the ones with engine swaps and turbos. 99% of civic owners aren't going to put that kind of cash into their cars.[/quote]

[Orbit]

LOL .. did they know you were racing them?

damn, i would hate to have to slow down to 30 to take a turn. sucks for you.



sorry, but i can't stand the whole "i can turn better than you" argument. sounds like owners trying to make up for their lack of tourque. :lol: i can turn really good too when i'm doing it at 30mph! i could care less about turning abilities, you aren't doing sharp turns when racing on the highway or the street, and definetly not at the drag strip. what good is it to be able to turn well when you're getting you butt kicked on the street?

now an sti and possibly a wrx if done correctly...those are good imports to me. they are quick and have good handling. that i like. if i had the cash i would get an sti, i've always loved that car.

i am not a fan of the evo. i have driven it and i think it was very hyped up with it arrived here and the car is a disappointment compared to what was expected (and seen in japan), especially for the price tag. i'd take my srt over an evo any day. it's sad when one of the most sought after cars finally comes to the us and can get its butt handed to it by a 20k neon (yes it really can. i beat two evos when i was stock, and i wasn't stock for long).

[PSI Chick]

damn, i would hate to have to slow down to 30 to take a turn. sucks for you.

are you that dense? :rolleyes:

and yes, the evos knew we were racing smart ass. and i beat them. and they were pissed ;)

[stichris]

I like to have my torque, and turn too. Oh, I also like stopping quickly.

[Orbit]

no, im not that dense . this is the ish talking thread remember. not enough ish going on . lol J/f w you

well, i guess they cant drive for ****.

when will we be seeing you at the tracK?




damn, i would hate to have to slow down to 30 to take a turn. sucks for you.

are you that dense? :rolleyes:

and yes, the evos knew we were racing smart *no cursing!*. and i beat them. and they were pissed ;)

[teh DIRT]

Oh, I also like stopping quickly.


you sure do.

[PSI Chick]

well, i guess they cant drive for *no cursing!*.

when will we be seeing you at the tracK?

i'm not the only one out there that has beaten the almighty evo. stock for stock with an srt it is a drivers race. awd will get off the line quicker, but the srt catches up when 2nd comes around.

you'll see me at the track whenever etown decides to stop postponing the opening and let us race!

[stichris]

Errr....

Seriously? I know the SRT-4 is underrated from the factory, and stuff, but I have difficulty believing it will beat an evo stock. I guess maybe if you factor out the launch, it would be closer... but what is that? THat's akin to telling you you have to turn off the boost when you race an n/a 4cyl car.

I'm glad I bouth an STi ;)

[PSI Chick]

i ran a 13.8@101 stock, and i have an 03 that came with the smaller injectors and no lsd. given, that's not exactly common for an 03, but 04 and 05's run 13.7-13.8 stock on a regular basis.

[stichris]

But EVOs run looow 13's stock, on a regular basis. Trap speed is about 5mph higher than SRT-4s, typically, which points to the AWD launch.

[PSI Chick]

since when do evo's run low 13's in the 1/4 stock? every evo owner i've spoken to runs high 13's, maybe mid, but quite close to srt numbers. stock sti's run low 13's, and an stock evo or srt is no match for an sti.

[stichris]

I might be wrong, I just thought that's what i remembered reading in most car magazines, and I recall seeing a couple timeslips. Mike, can you chime in here?

[Vypurr]

Even if they did run low 13's, that is still a drivers race. Because think about it. You are arguing over 4 10ths of a second, that is NOTHING!

And when I state my list, I am referring to overall ride. I like speed, I like turning, and I like stopping. Just because I dislike honda's doesnt mean that there arn't fast ones out there. But once you change the motor, can you really class it with other honda's? I have seen a Geo Metro run 9's. But the owner dropped in a turbo 6cyl and made it RWD. Just because that is fast, doesn't mean that I like it, or that its really a metro anymore!

[PSI Chick]

4 10ths of a second is huge in drag racing.

[stichris]

What she said.

[Vypurr]

Yes, but not on the streets!

[stichris]

Hey, it doesn't matter if it's an inch, or a mile. Winning's winning!

HAHAHA

[Orbit]

wow, cant belive the evo guys have nothing to say in there defense.

[kef]

i would like to see lap times for an evo and srt-4.

For any newer car, I still belive only going fast in a straight line is akin to having sex in only one position.

With all the money pumped into modern cars to make them idiot proof and provide monumental levels of lateral grip at 9/10ths driving... ::shrug:: just foolish to have to make ANY excuse for why the car can't be made to turn at speed.


Just to clarify you won't find me saying that a tubbed out old car with a huge blower isn't the tits.

[JasterM5]

There isn't enough ish talking here. I dont like this thread but i feel i must chime in.

I'm a big fan of any car that can go fast. I don't care wether its turning, straight, backward or underwater.

I've nver considered myself all "import" or all "domestic". The both have great cars availabe. Just like they both have crappy cars availble.

Personally I like to go sideways. I try to go sideways as fast as posible. and you can do that in whatever kind of car. It's just easier in some than others.

My only real quirk is I HATE FWD. I'm not saying they're slow but I hate them. Y? because they're no fun.

*This is where the ish talking begins*
SCREW ALL FWD CARS. If its not AWD or RWD I want nothing to do with it and if you don't like it, blow me! Its not a true sports car if its FWD.

Ah I feel better. Hopefully this will fuel some real trash talking. I want to see alot more **** labels and exclamations. **** **** **** **** **** **** :banana: :finga:

[96Stang]

i agree with him...lol...fwd does suck...im not gonna start talkin trash on anyone using my car in defense cause i have a 6 cyl mustang and it cant go fast...turning or straight..lol...but it is alot of fun to drive with the rwd and 5spd...mmm burnouts...hahaha...the funniest thing i have ever seen is cars doing fwd burnouts and thinking they are tough...holla in pete...hhahaha..

[teh DIRT]

i agree with him...lol...fwd does suck...im not gonna start talkin trash on anyone using my car in defense cause i have a 6 cyl mustang and it cant go fast...turning or straight..lol...but it is alot of fun to drive with the rwd and 5spd...mmm burnouts...hahaha...the funniest thing i have ever seen is cars doing fwd burnouts and thinking they are tough...holla in pete...hhahaha..


haha. STORY.

im in eric's (96Stang) car about a week ago and we are driving down the BLVD (RT. 1 South) just miding our own buisness. We'll we get to welsh road and there is a clean looking red Prelude next to us. I think to myself "i like the way that car looks". Then the young punk driver sees a mustang next to him and decides to do the ricer rev. I was completely blown away by this and had to bust out laughing. And this wasnt a chuckle...i stuck my head to the window...looked at the kid...and laughed in his face saying "your cool cause you drive a front wheel drive car....please let me see you smoke those front tires and go nowhere". He proceded to act hardass and rev it.

So the light turns green and the kid lauches....doing exactly what i told him he would do...then he grips up and goes. BTW we didnt stoop to his level and go with him. He must have felt so stupid.

Thats my story...it probably isnt funny...but at that time, it was

[MuddyREX]

My only real quirk is I HATE FWD. I'm not saying they're slow but I hate them. Y? because they're no fun.

*This is where the ish talking begins*
SCREW ALL FWD CARS. If its not AWD or RWD I want nothing to do with it and if you don't like it, blow me! Its not a true sports car if its FWD.


No arguement from me!! I agree. Wrong wheel drive sucks.

[kef]

I think a vtec BMC mini would be pretty cool for fwd. :\
Shame it's almost as wide as it is long.

End of Line.

[MuddyREX]

The old mini's are an exception. They are too cool to be hated.

[Vypurr]

So even tho my car is FWD and can blow the door off most cars on the streets, and can be made into an 11 second car for 26k brand new with parts, it still sucks?

[teh DIRT]

So even tho my car is FWD and can blow the door off most cars on the streets, and can be made into an 11 second car for 26k brand new with parts, it still sucks?


ummm yes. if i wanted to go straight.....id just run down the block. thatd save me 26k



your car is still cool tho

[SilverTurboRidin]

These are some of the most retarted things i ever hard....

BLAH BLAH BLAH AWD this and AWD that.... :thumbdow:

AWD is great...yeah its a cool thing to have, but just because someone doesnt have awd its suddenly becomes a burden it seems on these forums.

Gauranteed i know a ****load of FWD cars and car handle fine on any track.

[teh DIRT]

These are some of the most retarted things i ever hard....

BLAH BLAH BLAH AWD this and AWD that.... :thumbdow:

AWD is great...yeah its a cool thing to have, but just because someone doesnt have awd its suddenly becomes a burden it seems on these forums.

Gauranteed i know a *no cursing!* of FWD cars and car handle fine on any track.

dude. dont take these things to heart. this is the fight thread. only reason i dont like fwd is because you cant drift without holding the e-brake up.


as for awd...yes i prefer it because it is great in all conditions....and ima rally freak

[96Stang]

ive never touched my e-brake...yesssss...and my car drifts when it wants to...rwd rocks...screw traction...who needs that when you can spin tires all day....pete..what about the mall the other day....hahaha...the lady pointing at us

[SEVENDMACH1]

http://www.mustangmods.com/data/85/frontdrivesucks.jpg :rolleyes:

[96Stang]

good call

[teh DIRT]

ive never touched my e-brake...yesssss...and my car drifts when it wants to...rwd rocks...screw traction...who needs that when you can spin tires all day....pete..what about the mall the other day....hahaha...the lady pointing at us

bahaha. good times. the same thing happens to me when it snows out. il be in my lane... COMPLETELY SIDEWAYS......and then people 4 lanes over going the different direction will pull over, put the flashers on, stare, and point. I LOVE IT!

[JasterM5]

I never said i drove AWD. I have RWD. And I used to think it doesnt make a difference. Like I said. For me if its FWD its no where near as much fun.

Give me a FWD and some lunch trays, then we'll talk but untill then i'm happy with RWD.

BTW- I'm trying to get on someones nerves here, dont take any of this to heart. This is the first time thers been a thread encouraged to talk trash and I'm not wastin.

[PSI Chick]

awd = 25% drive train loss = the suck and lots of $$$ to get any power.

i'll take fwd or rwd any day. awd is only good for bad weather, when you shouldn't be doing 90 mph anyway.

i'll also take rwd over any other. i love driving the mustang, it's just so much damn fun.

[SEVENDMACH1]

My starter has more torque than a Honda!!!!!!

[teh DIRT]

yeah drivetrain lose does suck. but 25% is high...i dont think its that much in all cases. but it does leave me below 100whp

[SEVENDMACH1]

Mustang, 438rwhp, Comet 635rwhp.

[MuddyREX]

Who cares about drivetrain loss when you can whip the rear end out around corners and always have the fronts helping pull you through the turn?!?!?!?

I also remember a thread started by someone that says "I hate snow", while us AWDers meet everytime it snows!! Who cares about driveline loss then?!?!?!

Who cares about driveline loss when you can still accelerate faster than 90% of the cars on the road??

Who cares about driveline loss when you launch and watch the passengers neck snap back??

AWD is like the mailman. Rain, snow, sleet, or hail!!! :banana:

[SEVENDMACH1]

Hmmm. Never raced in the snow!!! :banana:

[MuddyREX]

Hmmm. Never raced in the snow!!! :banana:

Fun Fun FUN.

[SEVENDMACH1]

Don't think my Hoosier Quick Times would like that... :rolleyes:

[84camaro]

I dont like the E-brake....bad, bad, bad times...

[PSI Chick]

oh sure, you accelerate faster, but as soon as 2nd gear comes around you're seeing tail lights!!!! :lol:

projections for our cars this summer:
srt - 400 fwhp
mustang - 800+ rwhp

that's why i love driving the mustang so much.....get to pull the tires off the ground and still be street legal. can't beat that! :supz:

[criz]

since when do evo's run low 13's in the 1/4 stock? every evo owner i've spoken to runs high 13's, maybe mid, but quite close to srt numbers. stock sti's run low 13's, and an stock evo or srt is no match for an sti.

car and driver got a 13.6 when they tested the EVO VIII

[criz]

looks like when the track opens, this thread will be put to the test :devil:

I'd be more up to going to Atco, they're at sea level right?

of course, i'll be there with bells on

[naSTI]

looks like when the track opens, this thread will be put to the test :devil:

I'd be more up to going to Atco, they're at sea level right?

of course, i'll be there with bells on

Hmmmm.. Test!!!!!

[stichris]

of course, i'll be there with bells on


I'll be there with FMIC on.

Chris

[Aaron]

Why do people put hood clips on their stock hoods? I can't accuse just the domestic guys of this i know. However, I just saw a fox body mustang with hood clips. I don't get it. Is the car so fast that the stock hood latch can't keep the wind from blowing it off or is the car just built that poorly?

[criz]

dude, those hood clips add 10 horsepower... everyone who's cool does it

with that said, i'm not cool

[97TSi]

Ya, I hate that too. Clips on a stock hood.
I run clips, but I have no latch and a hood that weighs like 6lbs.

[wrx_snobordr]

Ill be there, hopefully with new up-pipe on. I have never been to the track before so who are the noobs who want to run???

[TehWagon]

I'm mostly a track noob. Ran once in a 17 sec monte carlo. Ok twice but the first run didn't count (don't ask). So this'll be my first in the scoob, but it's less pressure on virgins cuz you don't have to worry about doing a stellar burnout!

[wrx_snobordr]

I'm mostly a track noob. Ran once in a 17 sec monte carlo. Ok twice but the first run didn't count (don't ask). So this'll be my first in the scoob, but it's less pressure on virgins cuz you don't have to worry about doing a stellar burnout!

HA HA AH i heard this story. Its kinda similar to the movie dogma ...."what gear are you in?? GEAR?? " ha ha

[TehWagon]

Yea, yuck it up... when i'm nervous, i'm relatively braindead.
Here's to a better run this time!!! Can't wait!

[9 Ball]

wow, cant belive the evo guys have nothing to say in there defense.

... we don't have to respond... we know the truth. ;)


Thanks for the support, Orbit. :partyman:

[criz]

it is a nervous time... you're contending with getting the lights right before the other person so you have more time to prepare, meanwhile all eyes are on you... and once you're good with the lights, you have to concentrate on the launch!

but in the end, you're racing legally :)

[kef]

i might run my pig at atco.

[JasterM5]

My car will be at atco, oce its done that is.

[20th1519]

Imports suck. Domestics rule. :help:

[MuddyREX]

You suck. I rule.

[the mike]

wow, cant belive the evo guys have nothing to say in there defense.

... we don't have to respond... we know the truth. ;)


Thanks for the support, Orbit. :partyman:


I don't talk crap. I don't feel the need to run my mouth in some online pissing match. To each their own. :wiggle:

[criz]

I don't talk crap. I don't feel the need to run my mouth in some online pissing match. To each their own. :wiggle:

CRAM IT SLOWPOKE!

i'm with Mike... let's talk the sh1t when we compare slips at atco night... we should all caravan over there some thurs night!

anyway, the mike aint no slowpoke

[sesolcSTI]

I got love for the NICE imports, other than that, i despise most of them...

List of nice imports:
- EVO
- STI (some regular WRXs)
- Silvia
- TT Supra
- DSM
- R32
- Turbo Rotary's

List of Hated Imports:
- Civic (Even the SI/SI-Rice)
- Non TT Supra
- Accord
- S2000 (unless modded)
- Lancer
- Sentra
- Non-Turbo RX-7
- RX-8 (Dropped the ball...:()
- RSX (sorry, have yet to see a fast one!)
- Non-Turbo Eclipse
- Celica (Made for secretary's!)

Impartial:
- GTI (among various VWs)

More to come as I think of them!

Hmmmm......i know that i consider the SRT-4 an import, or at least some kind of an attempt. I have seen some VERY fast rsx's. As for SI's, i know of one certain SI (and i know lots of people on this forum know of the car) around the tristate area that would literally blow your doors off. But anyhow, its pretty cocky of you to start bashing cars that some fellow members own and take great pride in on these forums. Personally, i despise NEON srt-4's, but if thats what you like, then so be it......its not my place to bash it. :finga: :thumbup:

[sesolcSTI]

hehe, im a retarded double poster, heh

[Vypurr]

I was simply answering the questions of the thread. I listed the cars that i like and dislike. I never said that i despise them, just that I would not want to own them. There are always exceptions, such as a turbo civic or a blown camaro, they are not the ordinary cars that you see everyday, and i dont really consider them a civic or a camaro anymore, they are customized cars. I was simply reffering to each car in its stock form. No offense to the owners of those cars, i simply do not like them. If you dont like the SRT, then thats fine. I like it so I drive it. You like your car, so you drive it. It doesnt really matter.

[the mike]

I will only say this, saying you will never own or drive a certain type or brand of car is foolish and shortsighted. What you like now may not be what you like in the future, or what you liked in the past. :wiggle:

[Vypurr]

Again...I never said that I would never drive one. My exact words were "I would not want to own them", meaning that if I had a choice of what car to buy. Now if in a few years I want a car to put massive highway miles on going to and from work, I would definatly buy myself a civic. But right now while I am young and stupid, I want something with more pep!

[sesolcSTI]

Hmmmm.....you never said you despise them, interesting, have a look at your quote below, and if you continue to read down a little more you will see that the list of cars you dislike or wouldnt want to drive is so eliquently titled "list of HATED imports". But hey, if you never said anything of the sorts then i stand corrected. :rolleyes: :wiggle:

I got love for the NICE imports, other than that, i despise most of them...

List of nice imports:
- EVO
- STI (some regular WRXs)
- Silvia
- TT Supra
- DSM
- R32
- Turbo Rotary's

List of Hated Imports:
- Civic (Even the SI/SI-Rice)
- Non TT Supra
- Accord
- S2000 (unless modded)
- Lancer
- Sentra
- Non-Turbo RX-7
- RX-8 (Dropped the ball...:()
- RSX (sorry, have yet to see a fast one!)
- Non-Turbo Eclipse
- Celica (Made for secretary's!)

Impartial:
- GTI (among various VWs)

More to come as I think of them!

[Vypurr]

Ok, I am sorry. I lied... :roll:

Can we just all be cool and admit that we are here because we like cars? I don't wanna be flamed, but I think this pic fits perfectly! LOL!!! Just kiddin, its all in fun guys!
http://www.stowaway.us/srtforums/upload/274317_25_full.jpg

[sesolcSTI]

Yeah man, im not trying to start anything, its just not cool to talk smack on other peoples preferences. I do it, but not in the public eye! I was just trying to make a point. Case closed. :wiggle:

[Vypurr]

We can agree that we HATE rice tho rite?

http://www.stowaway.us/srtforums/upload/honda.jpg

[SEVENDMACH1]

http://www.mustangmods.com/data/85/rice25b15d.jpg :rolleyes: :rotfl:

[SilverTurboRidin]

lmfao

[MuddyREX]

That lawnmower looks like a 'Tim the Toolman Taylor' contraption from that old sitcom.

[TehWagon]

Aurgh aurgh aurgh.

No idea how to spell that, but you get the idea.

[MuddyREX]

I will only say this, saying you will never own or drive a certain type or brand of car is foolish and shortsighted. What you like now may not be what you like in the future, or what you liked in the past. :wiggle:

Exactly, like your old signature said. "I never thought I'd be driving a 4 door 4 cylinder car, look at me now"

[the mike]

Exactly why I said it, I was gung ho Chevy guy for a while, hated imports.
I grew up. :wiggle:

[9 Ball]

... and you got wise my friend.

I remember reading COUNTLESS articles in Motor Trend, Road and Track, Car and Driver, EVO Magazine (European mag,) Sport Compact, about how the EVO/STI were being compared to Porsche and Ferrari. Porsche and Ferrari, how can this be? However, after every comparision test, the numbers always tell the true story. How the STI outbraked many of the exotics, how the EVO out-slalomed cars costing $100,000. I said, wow, these cars must be something.

Then I test drove both. I was simply astonished. Now I get it! You can never truely apreciate what has been writen about these cars until you experience them first hand. I drive my friend's 290whp WRX, I drive my mechanics soon to be 400whp STI, and I'm in the EVO daily. There are simply no other cars on the planet that do what these "little" cars do for the price. Even better... in Europe, there are faster versions of both (FQ340, FQ400, STI WR1.)

And then they get good gas milage, have low maintenance costs, easy to tune, can go 200,000 miles without a hitch, and can be had for $30,000. There're not the sexiest cars on the planet, however, if you don't have a spare Porsche to enter into the Gumball Rally, either one of these cars should do fine.

If you're one of those people out there that skoff at these Ferrari killing "rice burners," just take a test drive. The only thing you have to lose, is a habit of pre-judging a phenomenal car. ;)

Believe us... a world of automotive journalists and automotbile enthusiast across the glob cain't be wrong.

[stichris]

I agree! Except I get ~13mpg. My right foot's fault, though. Plus I MAY be running a bit rich. Hahaha. And I wouldn't confidently say 200k miles without a hitch. Have any of the most recent, US market cars gone close to that? Maybe if kept stock...

Anyway, who wants to spend $13k+ for teh gumball, join the AKA Rally - $3k, and just as much, if not more fun!

Shameless plug! www.akarally.com

[TehWagon]

Good summary. Well done. :thumbup:

[9 Ball]

I agree! Except I get ~13mpg. My right foot's fault, though. Plus I MAY be running a bit rich. Hahaha. And I wouldn't confidently say 200k miles without a hitch. Have any of the most recent, US market cars gone close to that? Maybe if kept stock...

Anyway, who wants to spend $13k+ for teh gumball, join the AKA Rally - $3k, and just as much, if not more fun!

Shameless plug! www.akarally.com

My buddy ("wrx2" on NASIOC) and I are thinking about the AKA. The price went up a bit, however.

Shameless plug. :mrgreen:

[9 Ball]

And yes, the AKA looks like a lot of fun. Philly to Key West... that will be the S#IT! :supz:

[stichris]

Yup, price went up, right with what you get out of it ;)

Included this year are:

Hotels
Breakfast/dinner each day
awards banquet in Key West
2 motorsports events
non-motorsports event
club parties
etc, etc

Trust me, with what we have planned, it's a bargain. Check out the final hotel:

http://www.hilton.com/en/hi/hotels/index.jhtml;jsessionid=PWLL5IVT3SQIYCSGBIV222QKIYF C5UUC?ctyhocn=EYWKWHF

[9 Ball]

Shame on you Chris,

Another shameless plug! :mrgreen:

[stichris]

Hey, as soon as I get a web banner, I'll be an official sponsor of TST.

I talked to Bryan about doing some things for teh board already :finga:

:lol:

[9 Ball]

Hey, as soon as I get a web banner, I'll be an official sponsor of TST.

I talked to Bryan about doing some things for teh board already :finga:

:lol:

:thumbup: