Englishtown road course

[Plastik Racer]

The website says the track is available for rent, anybody got an idea as to how much it'd be to rent this sucker for the afternoon? It'd be nice to have a TST track day. :) At least to hold us over till millville's track opens up which I believe is sometime in june or july.

http://www.racewaypark.com/main/roadcourse/index.htm

[FocusDude]

Holy crap, they finally got permits to run auto's? I thought it was never going to happen. I wonder what has changed?

I saw moto's racing on it in october 07! It's great to see more and more course's opening, and with Thunderbolt being booked for years to come. Englishtown can be a cool place for the common folk to gather!

[Plastik Racer]

It'd be a nice place for grip cars to have fun. Something like club looses drift events just with griping, maybe time attack.

[karl]

if i remember correctly its said that for a while now... i think calling is the only way to tell for sure!

[OBEEWON]

Theres gonna be alot of accidents right around turn 11.

[Plastik Racer]

I'm gonna try to give a call to see whats up. your right about turn 11 it'd be smart to put a shacane in that straightaway.

[DC2.2GSR]

wow.. i'll be the first to sign up for a TST track day!

[Charged SVTF]

Im just going to do a hot lap at 2 am.

[DPancoast]

this is more my speed....since my car isnt fast enough for the straight line haha

[NOPSTNS]

plastik racer, its spelled "chicane"




Theres gonna be alot of accidents .

fixed it for ya.




an "open track "to any bunch of kids with enuff money is a bad idea.


id hate to see 40 high hp subarus from tst ripping around there like its a field day....


hp + inexperience = death

[TROLL]

how is that any different than any other track? i doubt they'd let anyone out there without the same type of instruction that every other track requires.
regardless, the track really doesnt interest me much. i did drive it during a mazda driving event a couple years ago, and it was in the rain. good times :)

[Kevin]

Never raced on something like that before. I'd definitely be there.

[Plastik Racer]

Thanks I was trying to figure how to spell that. If you've headed to any of the drift nights you'd know pretty much your gonna hit the wall. Everyone's gotta learn some how, most people would be scared to scratch their new paint jobs anyways. :)

[PUREKDM]

wow...i miss my car...ill come and watch...

[TROLL]

NOPSTNS i read your response before you deleted it with that wonderful reasoning... why do you have this automatically assumed ****ty attitude about everything? the only arguing going on is from you i guess. give me a break...

[Kevin]

LOLL

I say turn 10 will have some juicy crashes, especially for drifters.

[GhostRider]

i would deff go down .. purekdm yu can take a run in my car hahaha

[05Accent]

track looks sweet.

[JPolito830]

Looks like I am making a trip to Englishtown soon!

[PUREKDM]

i would deff go down .. purekdm yu can take a run in my car hahaha

as johnny tran once said "oh i'll have somethin for ya, just be prepaired to have your ass handed to you"


but on some real ish, im going to hold you to that...as long as there's no drunk pick ups going the wrong way on the track...

[Plastik Racer]

ThunderBolt Raceway is starting to really look good. NASA will be holding HPDE there for anyone looking to get their racing license. No more long drives to Pocono raceway for us. :)

http://www.njmotorsportspark.com/gallery/images/20080402/20080414_01.jpg

http://www.njmotorsportspark.com/

[Kevin]

So cars can race on that?

[Plastik Racer]

So cars can race on that?

Yea its got two car tracks inside and like 3 cart tracks. If you looking into SCCA and NASA they have scheduled HPDE which is just an open track day. Its pricey at around $250+ but you get lunch and the track all day long.

Also note that the millvile track will have 2.5+ miles and the englishtown one only have 1.3 miles of track.

[garrettej8]

damn I had no idea raceway park had a road course. I was going to go to summit point eventually but if there's one closer that'd be nice.

[cszakolczai]

I heard a rumor that in order to race your car has to be fully caged.

[FocusDude]

^^^ Depending. I know the NJ Troopers mandate every car in a rally-cross requires roll cage, fire suppression, hans, etc. to enter. That pretty much put the ca bash on off road rally cross's in NJ for the past 3+ years!

When I was watching the moto's run the road course back in sept/oct of '07 the speed coming around 11 was crazy, and on the opposite side of the wall is the main exit out of the complex- just seems to easy for a car to come barreling through the wall into exiting traffic.

[GhostRider]

ight sounds good .. yu can feel oh a 07 beast feels hahaha just kidding .. but ya im deff down tht looks fun

[rsw01]

if this event happens will it be a schueled event?

[Myke]

school? or scheduled?

[PaleDSM]

I'd be really surprised if they were ready to run cars on that course at any speed. Real surprised. But pleasantly surprised if it was ready.

[FocusDude]

They are supposed to kick start things 4th of July weekend.. it's looking pretty good, although many of the buildings are still being framed-

http://www.njmotorsportspark.com/gallery/images/20080424/TimingTowerTurnView.jpg
http://www.njmotorsportspark.com/gallery/images/20080402/037.jpg

[PaleDSM]

I was lucky enough to get shuttled around the track a few weeks ago. It is very very cool. Elevation changes, overpasses, runoff. It is going to be killer.

[FocusDude]

Lucky you, I have been doing a lot of work in the area, but unfortunately have yet to get over to the site for a peek.

[CHAOS]

i've contacted the track, as well as an insurance company about putting together a private track day. me = champion.

[012.5RS]

id def be down.

[Tigawoods]

i'd be there

[Plastik Racer]

Just some FYI

http://www.racewaypark.com/images/frontpageicons/rc08.jpg
Here's the info (http://www.racewaypark.com/main/roadcourse/rc-fr08.html)

[FocusDude]

^^^ thats great, I really hope I can get up there for a lap. Anyone else wanna try and get up there? June 8th is a SJR Solo event, so I won't be there then.

[frosti108]

id be interested in a TST track day. some kind of time attack challenge for all of TST would be sweet. i wonder if this would be possible

[FocusDude]

Of course we could rent it, but it all comes down to how much are we willing to pay for it.

Could be some real fun!

[frosti108]

"Eddie,

For our free trial days we are requiring basic road racing safety equipment. You will be given an instructor to ride along with you, since we don't know what your level of experience is. If the car you bring is a basic street car that you drive to the track with all proper street safety equipment then the only required safety equipment is a snell SA-2000 helmet as well as long pants, shoes with no holes and at least a tee shirt (no sleeve less shirts). If the car is a street car and it has a roll cage then we would like the car to have 5 point harnesses. If it is a race car then it needs all required safety equipment from a window net to on off switches. Basically if it is a race car then it needs to have all the safety equipment that the series you run in requires. So if it's a NASA race car then it has to meet all NASA safety requirements. If you have any further questions please feel free to email me back at etownroadcourse@aol.com

Chris Winter
Raceway Park
Road Course Director"

[Rotary Knight]

"Eddie,

For our free trial days we are requiring basic road racing safety equipment. You will be given an instructor to ride along with you, since we don't know what your level of experience is. If the car you bring is a basic street car that you drive to the track with all proper street safety equipment then the only required safety equipment is a snell SA-2000 helmet as well as long pants, shoes with no holes and at least a tee shirt (no sleeve less shirts). If the car is a street car and it has a roll cage then we would like the car to have 5 point harnesses. If it is a race car then it needs all required safety equipment from a window net to on off switches. Basically if it is a race car then it needs to have all the safety equipment that the series you run in requires. So if it's a NASA race car then it has to meet all NASA safety requirements. If you have any further questions please feel free to email me back at etownroadcourse@aol.com

Chris Winter
Raceway Park
Road Course Director"


that pretty much sums up the question i wanted answered :)
still doesnt answer how many runs, unless its like 5 cars on track at the same time with some distance between them when they go out.

[Tigawoods]

i really want to go....howa bout a tst cruise over there

[ej20wrx123]

that pretty much sums up the question i wanted answered :)
still doesnt answer how many runs, unless its like 5 cars on track at the same time with some distance between them when they go out.

My buddy emailed them and they said there wont be more then 6 cars on the track at once. They also said we should get 4 runs with a instructor....good enough for me. I should be there on friday with a couple of friends.

[Rotary Knight]

thats awesome for a free opening day.

[4cefed4]

I just saw the part about the free trial weekend. So when do you guys think you'll be heading down? I'm open for Friday or Satuday, Sunday is out for me.

[FocusDude]

Sunday is out for me too. The kids are at my parents Saturday- so I'm hoping to swing in and check it out Saturday.

Anybody else?

[frosti108]

ive been busting my ass all week trying to get my car together for this... still not 100% though. i put the motor together and dropped it in, along with the whole drivetrain, i still need to get the exhaust welded together and weld some nuts in for the trans Xmember to bolt up to (rusted out threads lol) as well as other small stuff like reset the distributor shaft (off by a tooth LOL) and set base timing, put the wideband back in, ...all kinds of crap :(

but im aiming to be at englishtown early early sunday morning 1st in line for a few free runs around the road course :) what days do they do test and tune there? it would be sweet to try out the road course and then do some pulls down the strip as well

[alwaysinboost]

Having already driven most of that course at speed I am going to pass on this one.

For me, it isn't worth getting up early, wasting gas driving to & from, and then waiting there for who knows how long to make 4 laps with an instructor...

[4cefed4]

Pics from today:

http://home.comcast.net/~4cefed4/images/etown4.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~4cefed4/images/etown5.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~4cefed4/images/etown6.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~4cefed4/images/etown7.jpg


There were no instructors in the car with you, pretty much no instruction at all to be honest. Not much effort was made to group cars, aside from putting the experience road course guys together so they could have at it. Still not a bad time, the trick was to let the car in front of you get some distance on the straightaway, and then go through the curves at your own pace. That is unless you were the lucky car to lead your group of six... :devil:

[FocusDude]

I read on another board that it kinda sucked, a z06 was stuck behind a slower stang- but if u were lucky to get out front or keep the pace following it wasn't that bad a day.

Apparently the stang was setup for the strip, slicks in the back and skinnies up front? Who the hell let that dude on a road course? A focus blew a spark plug, probably would have been me :P

[FocusDude]

Also from another site I read this info about the track.
Other info, Track rental during the week is $3000 with 30-45 car max and only 6 cars on track due to insurance. Helmet required and long pants required. They also will be offering a 8 hr driving school to get a "track" license for $225. This will allow you to run when they have track days for $125 for 6 hours. Raceway Park will be revamping their website in the upcoming weeks.

[alwaysinboost]

got there at 9 and did five sessions. this is video of the first

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZyQutO9hTg

[FocusDude]

Thx for making me really pissed I didn't head up! And what happened to...

Having already driven most of that course at speed I am going to pass on this one.

For me, it isn't worth getting up early, wasting gas driving to & from, and then waiting there for who knows how long to make 4 laps with an instructor...

[4cefed4]

I read on another board that it kinda sucked, a z06 was stuck behind a slower stang- but if u were lucky to get out front or keep the pace following it wasn't that bad a day.

Apparently the stang was setup for the strip, slicks in the back and skinnies up front? Who the hell let that dude on a road course? A focus blew a spark plug, probably would have been me :P

Yea, I saw that stang out there. A few cars I was like, WTF were you thinking putting this car on a road course. Seeing that Ferrari F1 car and the pontiac transam stock car take the track was pretty cool though.

[alwaysinboost]

Thx for making me really pissed I didn't head up! And what happened to...

ahh, don't believe everything you read on the internets :lol:

[2MCHPWR]

i took the rx7 out on street tires. i just went to hang but got asked to instruct a few times.
it closed at 2pm and then i got to go on the track by myself pretty much.
anyone got pics of my rx7?
95 degrees yeserday. ouch. my cars water at the end of 30 minutes was 235 and oil temp was 240.
falken azenis don't like 42 psi :) good for drifting, bad for going fast.

[frosti108]

good time. hot as fug though! i was the only one there racing a pickup truck hahaha

it turns out my 240 was not exactly ready, and my friend's wasnt either lol

so i brought my little low rider truck and put her to work. i let my whole group go infront of me because my truck was obviously the slowest vehicle.... which was a mistake. i didnt want to slow everyone else down, but it turns out i had to let off the whole time :/

but yea. good time, i just wish i had my car there. but the truck did get a bit sideways with some effort haha


oh and there was some seriously nice cars there. porsche viper vette pace car ferrari, i really liked the black s14, also was diggin a couple s/c mustangs...

[jdmwill]

good time. hot as fug though! i was the only one there racing a pickup truck hahaha

it turns out my 240 was not exactly ready, and my friend's wasnt either lol

so i brought my little low rider truck and put her to work. i let my whole group go infront of me because my truck was obviously the slowest vehicle.... which was a mistake. i didnt want to slow everyone else down, but it turns out i had to let off the whole time :/

but yea. good time, i just wish i had my car there. but the truck did get a bit sideways with some effort haha


oh and there was some seriously nice cars there. porsche viper vette pace car ferrari, i really liked the black s14, also was diggin a couple s/c mustangs...


yeah i drove by around 11:00 since i was on my way to NY. so i took the scenic route thru e-town . i ended up hanging out with obee aka obeewon "black s14" for a while. on my way out i saw your truck but i had to run next time i'll say hi bro..

[frosti108]

ah ****, maybe we'll meet up at a clubloose thing or somethin

[jdmwill]

ah ****, maybe we'll meet up at a clubloose thing or somethin

yeah i was going to bring out kaleo55 ka-t powered s14 to see what it will do but i figure there were going to be group runs to accomodate so many people.

[frosti108]

yea the group runs kinda sucked with the whole no passing thing, but hey im not complaining since it was free. i was stuck behind someone in a regular WRX. i would basically just completely stop, so i could get on it through some of the course... then i would get back to the subaru infront of me and i think they had an instructor in it because the passenger kept putting his hand out the window signaling for me to get off their ass HAHAHA

before i went out, i advanced the distributor a little to give it a little extra ka-juice, and the truck actuallly broke off a couple nice 2nd gear drifts for me :) but i think it was too much for her so i didnt get back in line. im pretty sure if you kept getting back in line, you could run atleast 5 sessions of 5 or 6 laps. not a bad day, but the truck wasnt really up to it

[frosti108]

before i left, i just had to... anyone goin to see the monster trucks?
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y140/frosti108/TRUCKS/hardbodymonster.jpg

[alwaysinboost]

I think they did an excellent job accomidating everyone especially with the intense heat. I'm sure these guys didn't make any money working in the heat all weekend.

from the speach Chris gave at the drivers meeting it looks like good things are in store. I will be supporting them and their events in the future.

[frosti108]

martyphoto.net they took pics of everyone.

if you go to the roadcourse link for today, then go to the 11:30-11:45 link, im on the 2nd page of that section. my truck looks clean in the demo pic lol but if i bought the big version youd be able to see the surface rust on the front bumper hahaha

[pinkarrowsnow]

Id sign up for a trackday guys also anyone wanna go down to watch formula d practice and qualifying friday Ill be there.

[Spocknasty]

I was out there today filming.

Got a ride in a Suzuki Turbo AWD prototype, not bad at all!
http://www.product-reviews.net/wp-content/userimages/2008/04/suzuki-sx4t-comes-with-a-mitsubishi-16g-gt3-turbocharger.jpg

Course is really tight, but it's a good alternative to larger tracks.

[DPancoast]

I would think to rent the track for a day, there would be a lot of different fees like emergency services (ambulance stuff) and all that crap......but with enough people, it probably wouldn't be that bad. I'd be down.

[frosti108]

I was out there today filming.

Got a ride in a Suzuki Turbo AWD prototype, not bad at all!
http://www.product-reviews.net/wp-content/userimages/2008/04/suzuki-sx4t-comes-with-a-mitsubishi-16g-gt3-turbocharger.jpg

Course is really tight, but it's a good alternative to larger tracks.

oh dayumn i had no idea about that suki. i honestly paid it no mind, thinking it was just another econo car with a carbon fiber hood :bigeek:

sweet, how was it. and does it compare to the subaru and mitsu?

[Spocknasty]

It handled crazy good...hugged the turns so well. Everyone preferred it over the STI we also had. I was told it's making 220 HP, and it felt pretty fast.

[woogie12]

Any more info on a track day? And what about people totally inexperienced for track driving? Suggestions?

[4cefed4]

I was out there today filming.

Got a ride in a Suzuki Turbo AWD prototype, not bad at all!
http://www.product-reviews.net/wp-content/userimages/2008/04/suzuki-sx4t-comes-with-a-mitsubishi-16g-gt3-turbocharger.jpg

Course is really tight, but it's a good alternative to larger tracks.

I saw that thing pull in, and as was said assumed it was just some kid's aftermarket creation. I did notice that it sounded quite a bit like a suzuki boulevard cruiser though.