People who bought Audi r8's are noobs period

[S4toSTI]

Geneva 2008: Audi R8 V12 TDI Le Mans - a mouthful for a mouthwatering car - Autoblog (http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/04/geneva-2008-audi-r8-v12-tdi-le-mans-a-mouthful-for-a-mouthwat/)
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6.0L V12 TDI 500 horsepower 737 lb-ft

[NJGOAT]

Maybe not, does this motor meet US diesel emissions? It doesn't say that anywhere in the article. If it doesn't, that car will never be sold here. Of course, I would give my right nut for one, but that's a different story.

[S4toSTI]

Maybe not, does this motor meet US diesel emissions? It doesn't say that anywhere in the article. If it doesn't, that car will never be sold here. Of course, I would give my right nut for one, but that's a different story.

Nothing good gets sold here but thats besides the point haha.

[OMGz Turbo]

Lets all move, i dont need all these emissions laws....although im EPA certified hahahah

Seriously barry good find thing looks BEAST

EDIT: Actually after reading the entire article we may just get this car here, it SHOULD meet the emissions and it also has exhaust filter's which is NEW technology

[SovXietday]

Emissions? **** them, I won't have to deal with the consequences!

:-p

[xEJ20x]

Buy a VW TDI and change it to be SVO.

[05Accent]

niceeeee.. hopefully its sold here.

http://www.veoh.com/

[evomike]

Diesel emissions rules are way different, that car totally would make it to the states if they tried, I guaruntee you it runs cleaner then a golf tdi and gets just as good fuel economy, dielsel is the way to go except its 4 bucks a gallon oh well

[S4toSTI]

Where is pool mike up in hur haha.

[NOPSTNS]

how is this "news"

welcome to 2 months ago.











o yeah and....i think its a great car but i doubt we will see it...for the very fact that its a diesel.

[ozthunder]

Awesome idea. I think the only diff between this and the NAIAS concept is the color?

However...Porsche 997 GT2 > * :wink:

[poolmike]

It doesn't appear to have any safety stuff, like bumpers. Not to mention there is no market for diesel cars in the US, which sucks cause that car is evil.

I'd run it on algae oil.

[ITSTOCK]

My complaint about the regular R8 is that it's all bark, no bite. Face it, the car is slow.

However, this seems to finally fix that problem. I'd still take a 997 turbo LONG before the R8, but it is a badass car.

I think we'll see it eventually, in some form. The R8 screws the pooch when it comes to performance for the price.

[scutzi128]

Diesels are so tunable though and usually see huge gains with just a reflash.

[ozthunder]

My complaint about the regular R8 is that it's all bark, no bite. Face it, the car is slow.

However, this seems to finally fix that problem. I'd still take a 997 turbo LONG before the R8, but it is a badass car.

I think we'll see it eventually, in some form. The R8 screws the pooch when it comes to performance for the price.

The R8 competes with the Carrera moreso than the Turbo, although I'd have a Turbo over it in a second.

[S4toSTI]

how is this "news"

welcome to 2 months ago.


o yeah and....i think its a great car but i doubt we will see it...for the very fact that its a diesel.

Welcome to Geneva.

[jjm4life]

i cant imagine a desiel sports car. is the redline going to be a whopping 4k?

[scutzi128]

iirc its 5k

[ozthunder]

4500 lol

[S4toSTI]

i cant imagine a desiel sports car. is the redline going to be a whopping 4k?

People couldn't believe a diesel race cat and look how well that did.

[ozthunder]

Not like they won LeMans or anything.

[DropTopChevy]

Audi never brings the good stuff to the states. The new RS6 for example. I plan on moving to Europe someday. :mrgreen:

[Gregory]

I've all ready seen two of these, so I assume they are being sold here.

[WhiteXFire]

I've all ready seen two of these, so I assume they are being sold here.

Did you read it? It's a new V12 diesel concept, not the V8 that's already out...

[ITSTOCK]

The R8 competes with the Carrera moreso than the Turbo, although I'd have a Turbo over it in a second.

I was more so comparing the 911 turbo to the diesel R8, not the slow R8 (which would seem to be comparative to the Carrera, I should have clarified ;) ).

I'd take the regular R8 over the regular Carrera though.

[Dave]

People couldn't believe a diesel race cat and look how well that did.

after about a hundred tries yeah

[ozthunder]

The R10 won its first LM AFAIK.

[Dave]

The R10 won its first LM AFAIK.

i was referring to the use of a diesel in racing in general. lots of failures before audi made it happen

[jjm4life]

People couldn't believe a diesel race cat and look how well that did.

im by no means knocking it. cause i am well aware of what its capable of. im just saying revving it out to a whopping 4500rpms does not make for the most thrilling sports car no matter how much torque it puts down.

[dragonfly2k3]

^why? just because the tach doesnt read as high? I'm trying to think why revving higher would make it tons more fun.

[K-Rex]

6.0L V12 TDI 500 horsepower 737 lb-ft

:eek: Bravo Audi!

[ozthunder]

i was referring to the use of a diesel in racing in general. lots of failures before audi made it happen

Yea, however, this is an Audi, and they were successful the first time, so that does matter IMHO.

[cburwell]

http://fourtitude.rely.net/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/9/2948

That is a presentation that Rupert Stadler of Audi gave. In it he states that "The launch of the V12 TDI is part of our broad-based diesel initiative in the US market". I take that to mean we might see the V12 TDI versions of the Q7 and R8.

[NOPSTNS]

^why? just because the tach doesnt read as high? I'm trying to think why revving higher would make it tons more fun.


engines that rev (and can withstand) really high rpms are thrilling by nature....but...




even tho 4500 rpm is right up there boring, the 700 some odd ft lbs of torque will surely compensate :wink:

[Dave]

Yea, however, this is an Audi, and they were successful the first time, so that does matter IMHO.

and hey lets just jerk off on it why dont we
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/Khajjathefang/darthrev.jpg

[dragonfly2k3]

engines that rev (and can withstand) really high rpms are thrilling by nature....but...




even tho 4500 rpm is right up there boring, the 700 some odd ft lbs of torque will surely compensate :wink:


Plus, with the added torque you can make longer gears and still get as good of acceleration so its not like the gears will be super short.

[Scapegoat]

im by no means knocking it. cause i am well aware of what its capable of. im just saying revving it out to a whopping 4500rpms does not make for the most thrilling sports car no matter how much torque it puts down.

must be why hondas sell sooooo well. low hp/tq but high revs so you can get the feeling of being fast, well more like the thought of being fast... without actually being fast.

[Raven18940]

must be why hondas sell sooooo well. low hp/tq but high revs so you can get the feeling of being fast, well more like the thought of being fast... without actually being fast.

Physics disagree, power is power. High revs are better only when paired with short gearing. The reason a torque monster is fast is because the huge mid range torque equates to a very wide power band in the upper RPMs. The reason a Honda "feels" fast is because they often have a flat torque curve and therefore an upward sloping power curve. The change in acceleration as the revs mount makes it "feel" fast. In contrast the torque is usually dying off in a torque monster at high revs, which give you a flat, unchanging power curve that doesn't feel as amazing, despite being a lot faster.

I'd still have a gasoline R8, I really don't need 500 hp. Very cool though.

[ozthunder]

The regular R8 is too slow for a car of that $$.

[dragonfly2k3]

hondas rev high because they have little torque but a decent amount of horsepower, they use short gears and high revs to make the most use of the top end power.

[NOPSTNS]

enuff about honduh

screw all this and thro a 3 rotor in there!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnqsaDUBySA

edit, forward the vid to 2:20 and then go to 3:30 for the fireworks

[MuddyREX]

Do all gas stations sell diesel? Cause Rich guys don't want to search for a gas station.

[NOPSTNS]

Do all gas stations sell diesel? Cause Rich guys don't want to search for a gas station.

the man has a point....rich guys will be dumbasses and put gas in it and ruin them. i forsee many being towed to audi dealers nationwide in america.....

[ITSTOCK]

VW brought the EXTREMELY badass V10 Diesel Touareg here, so why wouldn't audi bring that bad boy?

[DropTopChevy]

VW brought the EXTREMELY badass V10 Diesel Touareg here, so why wouldn't audi bring that bad boy?

I see your V10 and raise you 2 cylinders.:mrgreen:
http://jalopnik.com/362724/2009-audi-q7-v12-tdi-revealed-with-unbelievably-powerful-diesel-engine

[Raven18940]

hondas rev high because they have little torque but a decent amount of horsepower

You have that reversed. should be "Hondas have decent horsepower with little torque because they rev high." ;)

The regular R8 is too slow for a car of that $$.
I don't consider something with 400+ hp slow, but that's me.

[dragonfly2k3]

You have that reversed. should be "Hondas have decent horsepower with little torque because they rev high." ;)


I don't consider something with 400+ hp slow, but that's me.


I meant it that there is a reason for hondas to rev high, not just to make lots of noise. Its because their small displacement only makes power at 6k+ haha.
Also, 400hp does not always equate to fast, a good power to weight ratio equates to fast. There are probably lots of vehicles with 400hp that are slow(big rigs?)

[ozthunder]

You have that reversed. should be "Hondas have decent horsepower with little torque because they rev high." ;)


I don't consider something with 400+ hp slow, but that's me.

lol, well it is. For the money and what you'd pay with the premium, the competition with that factored in dusts it. Not to mention other "like" competition makes it seem like a TT with nawz.

[den9]

I meant it that there is a reason for hondas to rev high, not just to make lots of noise. Its because their small displacement only makes power at 6k+ haha.
Also, 400hp does not always equate to fast, a good power to weight ratio equates to fast. There are probably lots of vehicles with 400hp that are slow(big rigs?)

why are you comparing a tractor trailer to a sports car?

[Raven18940]

lol, well it is. For the money and what you'd pay with the premium, the competition with that factored in dusts it. Not to mention other "like" competition makes it seem like a TT with nawz.

I'm just saying that if I had a R8, I'd be a very happy guy. My not even 300 hp SAAB can already break every speed limit in the country in 6 seconds, being able to do it in under 4 as opposed to slightly over 4 just doesn't excite me.

Personally, I'll never have any of these cars, even with my good IT salary, so I don't care. Plus I think it's more fun to build a 500-600 hp engine yourself.

[dragonfly2k3]

I'm just saying that if I had a R8, I'd be a very happy guy. My not even 300 hp SAAB can already break every speed limit in the country in 6 seconds, being able to do it in under 4 as opposed to slightly over 4 just doesn't excite me.

Personally, I'll never have any of these cars, even with my good IT salary, so I don't care. Plus I think it's more fun to build a 500-600 hp engine yourself.

Your saab does 0-75 in 6 seconds, im impressed haha. Also, i was comparing big rigs to sports cars for comparison.

[Raven18940]

Your saab does 0-75 in 6 seconds, im impressed haha. Also, i was comparing big rigs to sports cars for comparison.

I was thinking 70, but it actually hooks up really well now with its stiff suspension. :-p

[95gstnj]

i like it in silver

[ITSTOCK]

i like it in silver

Ralph Wiggum on....
When i grow up, I want to be a principal or a caterpillar.

[SRT4 ME]

car is absolutely gorgeous, imo.