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D Money
11-19-2007, 12:45 PM
So here is where I am at....

Drop 15k into the subaru, make 500whp, and have a totally new look or sell everything and get a 335i? I said it 100x, but it's really got my twisted. If anytime is more perfect to sell my car, it's now before I get too deep. I've been reading alot about this new bmw and it's awesome. They are putting down 415whp 490wtq with just exhaust, tuning, and an intake. I really don't want it for that, I just like the M-tech exterior styling from the factory. Besides that, just some wheels, coilovers, and tint but I wouldn't get too into this car. I know I can get some big boys under a 335i, 19x8.5 up front and 19x11 in the rear with 305/30!

http://images.eurotuner.com/features/160_0707_04_z+2007_bmw_335i_coupe+front_view.jpg

http://images.eurotuner.com/features/160_0707_15_z+2007_bmw_335i_coupe+back_rear_view.j pg

http://images.eurotuner.com/features/160_0707_05_z+2007_bmw_335i_coupe+side-view.jpg

Just give me your opinions. Thanks!

ozthunder
11-19-2007, 12:47 PM
You gonna make this a poll?

CHAOS
11-19-2007, 12:47 PM
youve got so much into the subie... i say stick with it... go crazy on it

Kevin
11-19-2007, 12:48 PM
Thats a big decision.

I say sell everything and get a new car.

D Money
11-19-2007, 12:49 PM
You gonna make this a poll?

how do I make it a poll?

oh and a little back history. My parents think im ****ing stupid for dropping so much money all the time and then just changing it right away. They want to see me walk away from this car and get into something nicer that I can use all the time while I finish up with school.

ozthunder
11-19-2007, 12:54 PM
Yea, I feel ya on the parents heat business.

Go back and edit, you should be able to selection an option for a poll. If not you may have to make a new thread. It should be below the main window, near/around attachments.

whitezenki
11-19-2007, 12:54 PM
I know I can get some big boys under a 335i, 19x8.5 up front and 19x11 in the rear with 305/30!



Understeer city.

That is all.

D Money
11-19-2007, 01:01 PM
Understeer city.

That is all.

If I wanted a track car, I definately wouldn't start off with a $45,000 bmw. But, that's the same sizes I have seen most 335i owners running. Again, im still learning and trying to read about them, im far from an expert.

1988 Olds
11-19-2007, 01:02 PM
D as much as I love your subie I think you should go with the BMW. It is just so much better looking IMO, no offense and I think 400hp is more then enough.

ToyotaTat
11-19-2007, 01:04 PM
definately seems like a tough decision, do you honestly think the bimmer will only get the mods you listed?

whitezenki
11-19-2007, 01:06 PM
No, a three inch stagger would be understeer city EVERYWHERE.

Exit ramps, jug handles, curvy roads, everywhere.

I still voted BMW.

ozthunder
11-19-2007, 01:06 PM
Maintenance on a BMW is prolly a different animal than a Subaru; if its stuff like that being a concern, I would think twice IMHO. But if not..

BMW.

05Accent
11-19-2007, 01:08 PM
DAMN!! thats hard.

xEJ20x
11-19-2007, 01:16 PM
Get an E46 M3.

D Money
11-19-2007, 01:18 PM
Maintenance on a BMW is prolly a different animal than a Subaru; if its stuff like that being a concern, I would think twice IMHO. But if not..

BMW.

It will have a waranty, unlike the one I currently have which is nothing. :mad:

Get an E46 M3.

335i's look 10x more sleek, have the new bmw body style, not to mention have way more potential from the factory.

ozthunder
11-19-2007, 01:19 PM
That is true..but if you ball out, how much of a warranty would you have?

And +1 on the 335 vs M3 comparison (in regards to D's side)

Sled
11-19-2007, 01:21 PM
If I wanted a track car, I definately wouldn't start off with a $45,000 bmw. But, that's the same sizes I have seen most 335i owners running. Again, im still learning and trying to read about them, im far from an expert.

$45K?? my buddies 2 door coupe was $58k or something by the time it was out the door.
i love the 335s. their fun as **** to drive and they put down some good power. my buddies runs 12.40s with a just a shiv piggy back. gonna try and get into the 11s next monday.

D Money
11-19-2007, 01:26 PM
$45K?? my buddies 2 door coupe was $58k or something by the time it was out the door.
i love the 335s. their fun as **** to drive and they put down some good power. my buddies runs 12.40s with a just a shiv piggy back. gonna try and get into the 11s next monday.

Yeah, that's what I was referring to, the vishu piggyback. Are they really that fast? WOW.

58k? I just went on bmwusa.com and built one with all the options including the m-tech aero and it was $44k and some change.

ozthunder
11-19-2007, 01:28 PM
Markups, demand, etc etc.

Sled
11-19-2007, 01:31 PM
Yeah, that's what I was referring to, the vishu piggyback. Are they really that fast? WOW.

58k? I just went on bmwusa.com and built one with all the options including the m-tech aero and it was $44k and some change.

Im not 100 percent sure, but i thought he told me his was 58k out the door. We do live in doylestown and everything is alittle more $$$ here. its a badass car though and it fucing hauls ass for just having the piggy back on it. im driving it to the track on monday and shooting for 11s. if it does it, it will be the first 335 in the 11s. thats just with a piggy back!

96Stang
11-19-2007, 01:33 PM
how can you afford to pay for either one at your age?? just curious...and while still in school

Sled
11-19-2007, 01:36 PM
how can you afford to pay for either one at your age?? just curious...and while still in school

sells alot of drugs. :eek:

D Money
11-19-2007, 01:38 PM
how can you afford to pay for either one at your age?? just curious...and while still in school

21 is not exactly considered 'young' anymore.

Dave
11-19-2007, 01:39 PM
meh in my usual way im going to vote for something completely different. i say bmw 850i withthe six speed swap and either a kreisseig or tubi exhaust

http://img.drive.com.au/drive_images/Editorial/2007/05/07/07used_m_m.jpg

nothing like the wailing scream of a v12 IMO

TROLL
11-19-2007, 01:41 PM
wait, no 335 has run 11s yet? is the 400 hp quote just speculated then?

honestly, its two different situations... either have a totally unique subaru or have a pretty simple 335. depends on what you're feeling, but both will turn heads and both will be really fast. i kinda think the 335 makes sense... hell, even i want one.

Sled
11-19-2007, 01:42 PM
21 is not exactly considered 'young' anymore.

if you make 40k a year and live at home you can afford this car without a problem. payments are like $700 a month.

96Stang
11-19-2007, 01:43 PM
21 is not exactly considered 'young' anymore.

honestly though...its not the fact that your 21, but the fact that you are 21 and still in school...i dont know what kind of job you could have that would give you enough money while your still in school to afford such cars and all

Sled
11-19-2007, 01:44 PM
wait, no 335 has run 11s yet? is the 400 hp quote just speculated then?

honestly, its two different situations... either have a totally unique subaru or have a pretty simple 335. depends on what you're feeling, but both will turn heads and both will be really fast. i kinda think the 335 makes sense... hell, even i want one.

i said we are going to try and be the first on monday.

ozthunder
11-19-2007, 01:45 PM
meh in my usual way im going to vote for something completely different. i say bmw 850i withthe six speed swap and either a kreisseig or tubi exhaust

http://img.drive.com.au/drive_images/Editorial/2007/05/07/07used_m_m.jpg

nothing like the wailing scream of a v12 IMO

8 series= awesome.

D Money
11-19-2007, 01:45 PM
wait, no 335 has run 11s yet? is the 400 hp quote just speculated then?

honestly, its two different situations... either have a totally unique subaru or have a pretty simple 335. depends on what you're feeling, but both will turn heads and both will be really fast. i kinda think the 335 makes sense... hell, even i want one.

I had no track times, only numbers from dyno's at technik engineering. The numbers they wrote in the article for exhaust, vishnu, and c/f intake box were 415whp and 490wtq. Seems amazing to me, although I really don't want the car for that reason. It just screams baller luxury status and I can drive it daily.

D Money
11-19-2007, 01:48 PM
honestly though...its not the fact that your 21, but the fact that you are 21 and still in school...i dont know what kind of job you could have that would give you enough money while your still in school to afford such cars and all

Well, it shouldn't be to hard. I was accumilating parts for this car for how many years now? 2-3? So all that can be sold now, along with the 10k in parts I have in my basement. My car is paid off so that can all go to the down payment of the bmw. If I put down $25k on the bmw, figure my payments should be $300 or so a month, which is easy to swing when im not modding a car like crazy. The other 10k I can use to put the wheels, suspension, etc on the car to get my going for a while.

upperguy
11-19-2007, 01:52 PM
Hey WRXDimitri, have you considered the 135? they are a few hundred lbs lighter and start low 30's with a lot of the same options. In addition they come stock with the M-tech kit and brembos and such. Thats what I would go for. Now don't get me wrong, I love your wrx but my buddy's tippy 335 is nose-to-nose with my brother's modded E39 M5 and slightly faster then his Z4M coupe. Thats a tippy too!

Other benefit is that you don't have nearly as much to worry about with the 35 vs a heavily modded suby.

96Stang
11-19-2007, 01:54 PM
Well, it shouldn't be to hard. I was accumilating parts for this car for how many years now? 2-3? So all that can be sold now, along with the 10k in parts I have in my basement. My car is paid off so that can all go to the down payment of the bmw. If I put down $25k on the bmw, figure my payments should be $300 or so a month, which is easy to swing when im not modding a car like crazy. The other 10k I can use to put the wheels, suspension, etc on the car to get my going for a while.

but im still confused at the paying for the parts that you have and have had over the years...maybe im doing something terribly wrong...idk but i just dont get that even with that amount of time...you dropped like 15k at one time to completely re-do your car...kept the parts that you had before and are going to sell all of it at once, which i understand...but like how do you pay for insurance for this and your dd, gas for both, and the payments that you did have, on top of 15k worth of parts while being a full time student...and i know your threads arent too cheap either...im in the wrong part of town or somethign i guess

ozthunder
11-19-2007, 01:56 PM
20K over how long, too? B/c to get that to 300 or below would be a longer term.

D Money
11-19-2007, 02:02 PM
Hey WRXDimitri, have you considered the 135? they are a few hundred lbs lighter and start low 30's with a lot of the same options. In addition they come stock with the M-tech kit and brembos and such. Thats what I would go for. Now don't get me wrong, I love your wrx but my buddy's tippy 335 is nose-to-nose with my brother's modded E39 M5 and slightly faster then his Z4M coupe. Thats a tippy too!

Other benefit is that you don't have nearly as much to worry about with the 35 vs a heavily modded suby.

No 135i, not my style. I want the bimmer for that 'lean' :mrgreen:

Are they really that fast Conner?

but im still confused at the paying for the parts that you have and have had over the years...maybe im doing something terribly wrong...idk but i just dont get that even with that amount of time...you dropped like 15k at one time to completely re-do your car...kept the parts that you had before and are going to sell all of it at once, which i understand...but like how do you pay for insurance for this and your dd, gas for both, and the payments that you did have, on top of 15k worth of parts while being a full time student...and i know your threads arent too cheap either...im in the wrong part of town or somethign i guess

It's more about the choice of what car I should get/keep, opposed to how I make money. :wink:

upperguy
11-19-2007, 02:06 PM
Do you have Art's number? I'm sure he will give you a ride in the 335 if you ask. It moves!

Blkmax
11-19-2007, 02:08 PM
335i !!!!!!
Those cars are soo sick, i dont know if you're ready to step up:mrgreen:

upperguy
11-19-2007, 02:18 PM
BTW while 335's are sick you definitely won't get as much attention as you have gotten in the WRX, not to say they aren't hot.

Vypurr
11-19-2007, 02:26 PM
I say go for it because you are all about that Cali look, and the BMW is perfect for it. You will clearly buy some nice wheels, and you will definitely lower it. And with those 2 things it will look good. Not amazing, and not too custom, but good none-the-less!

itouge.com
11-19-2007, 02:36 PM
you might miss the awd

Kevin
11-19-2007, 02:38 PM
I believe that BMW has the best warranty for their cars.

Vypurr
11-19-2007, 02:51 PM
Hell, on the topic of Maintenance, all you need to do is add the premium package to your car and you will get the BMW Ultimate Service Package which includes:
* The BMW Maintenance Program for four years or 50,000 miles.
* Unlimited-Mileage Roadside Assistance for four years.
* A New Vehicle Limited Warranty for four years or 50,000 miles.

CHAOS
11-19-2007, 02:53 PM
if you buy a 335i and mod it, your warranty will be voided, BMW has come up with something to detect tuning or something like that... so that shouldnt even be a consideration if you mod the car.

james_ls
11-19-2007, 03:03 PM
Ouch.

D...this is hard.

But I KNEW you were gonna post pictures of that one with the BBS's on it.

If they were gold...I'd pee myself.

I'm not voting...yet.

96Stang
11-19-2007, 03:05 PM
It's more about the choice of what car I should get/keep, opposed to how I make money. :wink:

just curious cause im the same age and no where near as comfortable as you seem to be moneywise...o well i guess we will never know...and can just assume

D Money
11-19-2007, 03:19 PM
just curious cause im the same age and no where near as comfortable as you seem to be moneywise...o well i guess we will never know...and can just assume

I can only imagine what your assumption truely is.

Not many people like to talk about their financial situations. I for one, am one of those people. I apologize.

CHAOS
11-19-2007, 03:21 PM
lol @ me being the only one who voted to finish the subaru.

whitezenki
11-19-2007, 03:23 PM
I sell ice in the winter, I sell fire in hell, I am a hustler baby, Ill sell water to a well. I was born to get cake...

In other words, none of your business.

Run a little less width in the rear, slam the **** out of it, game over.

96Stang
11-19-2007, 03:24 PM
I can only imagine what your assumption truely is.

Not many people like to talk about their financial situations. I for one, am one of those people. I apologize.

i am not going to say what my assumption is because i am pretty sure i am going to be wrong no matter what...i understand not wanting to share your financial situation and respect that, but i was just curious as to what you could possibly do for work that lets you drop that kind of dough on that stuff, go to school full time and lets you sit on the computer and post on a car forum all day...no offense, but whererever this job is..please share the wealth and let other people in on it...we would all love to work there.

D Money
11-19-2007, 03:37 PM
I sell ice in the winter, I sell fire in hell, I am a hustler baby, Ill sell water to a well. I was born to get cake...

In other words, none of your business.

Run a little less width in the rear, slam the **** out of it, game over.

My apologies on the wheel size before. The car I posted, has a custom 2" extention on the rear 1/4 pannel. Wierd! Anyways, apparently I can only fit a 10" in the back, which is still nice!

i am not going to say what my assumption is because i am pretty sure i am going to be wrong no matter what...i understand not wanting to share your financial situation and respect that, but i was just curious as to what you could possibly do for work that lets you drop that kind of dough on that stuff, go to school full time and lets you sit on the computer and post on a car forum all day...no offense, but whererever this job is..please share the wealth and let other people in on it...we would all love to work there.

No offense taken.

My profile lists the place I work at along with my position title.

pearl
11-19-2007, 03:42 PM
what a dumb question. i even hate bmw's but id rather have one than that wrx. you can atleast enjoy the bmw all the time instead of driving the wrx a handful of times.

whitezenki
11-19-2007, 03:56 PM
10JJ seems a little better, with camber and stuff you could get more.

Ill be running 10 or 10.5 out back, and 9 or 9.5 up front. But not 19's, 18's out back, up front if I'm feeling manly.

The BMW community as a whole probably sucks, I know IS forums are all comparing options, wood grain, and leather, then crying when someone puts Works on or asks about an auto to manual swap, i imagine youd run in that here as well.

zerioustt
11-19-2007, 04:34 PM
bmw fo sho

http://www.bmwusa.com/bmwexperience/EuropeanDelivery/default.htm ...nuff said. plus getting over there will be cheaper for you because of your job. go to germany and save money by buying it there? sounds good to me. if i ever buy a bmw i will def make the trip across the pond for mine, youd have to be a fool not to. take your brand new car on the autobahn? suuuuuuuure why not.

namdoogwerdna
11-19-2007, 04:46 PM
lol @ me being the only one who voted to finish the subaru.

I voted to finish the subie too. I'm just not a big fan of the BMW personally.

CHAOS
11-19-2007, 04:47 PM
i LOVE the 335i.. however i dont think its right choice is this situation thats all.

namdoogwerdna
11-19-2007, 04:54 PM
I guess I should clarify what I meant. I don't think the 335i is good for your situation either, the car is nice, but if you want to stay with Emotion and have another show car, the BMW isn't it IMO.

upperguy
11-19-2007, 05:22 PM
if you buy a 335i and mod it, your warranty will be voided, BMW has come up with something to detect tuning or something like that... so that shouldnt even be a consideration if you mod the car.

rumors rumors rumors

unless you go in with it plugged in it is undetectable because the PROcede is not a chip, it's a piggyback box that sits next to the ECU.

you might miss the awd

12.3 on drag radials with exhaust and tune. Once you drive a RWD car that is made to handle some power you understand. It's an entirely different world when you compare a lightly modded 335 to a Heavily modded other rwd car. The trans is nice and smooth, no heavy clutch, no worrying about things breaking. Everything is made to work with the power.

Plus donuts and burnouts are where it's at.

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Seriously WRXdimitri(lolz) 12.3 with like 2k in exhaust tuning and tires.

D Money
11-19-2007, 05:40 PM
WRXdimitri. hahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaha

Yeah, they seem fast. So they can't detect the vishu ecu at bmw?

CleanNeon98
11-19-2007, 05:47 PM
I voted the 335 because you seem to want to change to that. I like the Subaru, but a change would never hurt. If it was me, I would keep the WRX, but if you are set on selling it, I wouldnt get the 335 either. id get a new c-class

http://ebay.windingroad.com/newsuploads/2007/01/08-c-class004600.jpg

Im sure you can do things with that as well

CHAOS
11-19-2007, 05:48 PM
if they cant detect it, then... why the hell not i suppose lol

upperguy
11-19-2007, 05:48 PM
WRXdimitri. hahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaha

Yeah, they seem fast. So they can't detect the vishu ecu at bmw?

its a black box you plug in, as long as you unplug it first there is nothing to detect. similar to this bad boy

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/172/416159340_e521194050_o.jpg

turbo4g63
11-19-2007, 05:48 PM
i say bmw....just because the new 335i's are sex

CarbonIS
11-19-2007, 06:59 PM
buy a house

zerioustt
11-19-2007, 07:06 PM
buy a house

lol..i didnt see that option but i like that one.

D Money
11-19-2007, 07:10 PM
buy a house

You graduated already, I didn't. When im in your shoes, hopefully within two years, then I will. But until then dude, you know you wouldn't sell your sti to get into a house.

D Money
11-19-2007, 07:41 PM
oh wow, look at this. 12.5 with just a vishnu PROcede. Auto too

http://s22.photobucket.com/albums/b335/NICKYOSKIN996969/?action=view&current=335.flv

CHAOS
11-19-2007, 07:44 PM
oh wow, look at this. 12.5 with just a vishnu PROcede. Auto too

http://s22.photobucket.com/albums/b335/NICKYOSKIN996969/?action=view&current=335.flv


there was absolutely zero wheel spin at the line, thats impressive

Sled
11-19-2007, 08:38 PM
oh wow, look at this. 12.5 with just a vishnu PROcede. Auto too

http://s22.photobucket.com/albums/b335/NICKYOSKIN996969/?action=view&current=335.flv

thats me driving that car! LOL. the shiv piggyback plugs in under the cowl panel and you can just unplug it when you go back to the dealer.
its got BFGs on the back. ive done a best of 12.40 and with shivs new tune im going for 11s next week.

lownslow95
11-19-2007, 08:52 PM
I voted to finish the subie too. I'm just not a big fan of the BMW personally.

I also said keep teh subie. BMW335i is a nice car, but I think the STi is much better looking, and well its already paid off.:)

malloyboy1
11-19-2007, 09:25 PM
i vote wrx

Signatus230
11-19-2007, 09:36 PM
I love your car, but maybe its time for something new. That BMW looks sick, has sick stuff, has a warranty, and is nice enough to not worry about too much if you want to take it to school, right?

whitezenki
11-19-2007, 10:01 PM
thats me driving that car! LOL. the shiv piggyback plugs in under the cowl panel and you can just unplug it when you go back to the dealer.
its got BFGs on the back. ive done a best of 12.40 and with shivs new tune im going for 11s next week.

what did you do to drop almost half a second?

I feel like thats a lot of time to be lost on just drivers skill with an auto car.

Sled
11-19-2007, 10:06 PM
it ran 13.34 stock. its got a shiv 2.0 piggy back with BFG's. anymore question feel free to PM me.

347gtvert
11-19-2007, 10:24 PM
sell for BMW .

ita NEW FAST car.


straight PIMP. TT 6cyl w/ 6speed auto.