2 More Cops Shot In Philadelphia....

[zerioustt]

these people are getting more an more brazin..

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=local&id=5751540

The shooting happened just before 6:30 in the area of Torresdale and Orthodox in the Frankford section of the city.

The circumstances of the shooting are not yet known.

Both officers have been taken to area hospitals. One was wounded in the hip. Authorities tell Action News that both officers are listed in stable condition.

The suspect remains at large.

[Zillon]

When will it stop...

[Demonicbird00]

i think theyre trying to go for a record.........

whats the total deaths so far in philly this year?

-brandon

[lownslow95]

Whats new in Philladelphia? Thats all you hear about in Philly is people getting shot left and right? When will this ever stop?

[sleepersatty99]

it will stop when people start coming forward and helping the police. when these criminals realize that people will drop a dime on then then i think thigs will clam down. but i dont think the senseless killings and all will ever stop but maybe become under control

[ScubaSteve]

I'm not glad to hear of these officers being shot but I'm glad that Nutter is going to be forced to take some serious action after all of these shootings against police officers. Its easy for officials to brush off all the shootings in Philly but they can't ignore it when the cops are getting shot.

[zerioustt]

Its easy for officials to brush off all the shootings in Philly but they can't ignore it when the cops are getting shot.

thats probably the saddest thing ive ever heard. its like saying o its cool when civilians are shot but you better believe the whole force will be out there if a cop is shot. where are the manhunts for all the innocent people who died in philly this year???

[pinacup7]

I'm not glad to hear of these officers being shot but I'm glad that Nutter is going to be forced to take some serious action after all of these shootings against police officers. Its easy for officials to brush off all the shootings in Philly but they can't ignore it when the cops are getting shot.

I almost got shot this weekend right down the street from your house. We were gettin temple star at like 4 in the morning and when the delivery guy came to the door 5 black dudes popped out w 3 guns and took all the money. It was great driving around the back of the philly cop car tho w my boys drunk as **** eating chinese food tryin to find the guys.

[jdm free]

i hear the murder rate in philly is worse than in the middle east

[lownslow95]

i hear the murder rate in philly is worse than in the middle east

as unfortunate as this may seem, that is probably true.

[ScubaSteve]

I almost got shot this weekend right down the street from your house. We were gettin temple star at like 4 in the morning and when the delivery guy came to the door 5 black dudes popped out w 3 guns and took all the money. It was great driving around the back of the philly cop car tho w my boys drunk as **** eating chinese food tryin to find the guys.

Holy ****! Thats insane man. Glad you and your buddies are alright. When I got robbed me and two drunk chicks got a taxi ride from a cop wherever we wanted to go, it was great!

[ScubaSteve]

thats probably the saddest thing ive ever heard. its like saying o its cool when civilians are shot but you better believe the whole force will be out there if a cop is shot. where are the manhunts for all the innocent people who died in philly this year???

Look at the live coverage on any news channel. You better believe the whole force is out there and wouldn't be if it was a civilian that was shot. But I can't blame them, its two of their boys that were shot and anyone who would shoot a cop like that is a lot more dangerous than someone shooting a civilian.

[pinacup7]

Holy ****! Thats insane man. Glad you and your buddies are alright. When I got robbed me and two drunk chicks got a taxi ride from a cop wherever we wanted to go, it was great!

Yea it was probaly the scariest thing in my life thus far. Looking down the barell of a 9mm with some kid with two tears already down his eye. I really though I was getting shot. I was waiting for the shot to go off actually, thank god it never did.

[ScubaSteve]

Yea it was probaly the scariest thing in my life thus far. Looking down the barell of a 9mm with some kid with two tears already down his eye. I really though I was getting shot. I was waiting for the shot to go off actually, thank god it never did.

The dude was crying when he had a gun pulled on you? wtf? :eek:

[pinacup7]

The dude was crying when he had a gun pulled on you? wtf? :eek:

haha no, you've never seen anyone with tears tatto'd on their face? It either means one of their close friends was murdered or they killed someone.

[ScubaSteve]

haha no, you've never seen anyone with tears tatto'd on their face? It either means one of their close friends was murdered or they killed someone.

Haha my bad, thats seriously ****ed up though.

[streetAssasin96]

Look at the live coverage on any news channel. You better believe the whole force is out there and wouldn't be if it was a civilian that was shot. But I can't blame them, its two of their boys that were shot and anyone who would shoot a cop like that is a lot more dangerous than someone shooting a civilian.

very true.

Nutter is pushing to allow cops to search and seizure whenever they feel is needed. Even though this is against our civil rights, Its a real good idea considering he condition Philly is in. I just hope all the surrounding townships don't get stupid and evey time you get stopped, you and your 4 friends are sitting on the curb while they tear your car apart.

[enigma]

This situation will stop when the people of philly decided that thyey have had enough, and start reporting these ****suckers on a more regular basis.

[lownslow95]

very true.

Nutter is pushing to allow cops to search and seizure whenever they feel is needed. Even though this is against our civil rights, Its a real good idea considering he condition Philly is in. I just hope all the surrounding townships don't get stupid and evey time you get stopped, you and your 4 friends are sitting on the curb while they tear your car apart.

And this is why I try my hardest now to stay out of Philladelphia as much as I can. I remember this one time when me and my dad had to drop off a Budget Moving van in Trenton, yes i know its different, but this women came right up to me (i was driving my dads mini van at the time) and she came right up to the passenger side door, and as I saw her start coming to the door, she was about 6 inches away. The auto door lock didn't work on that side, so I quickly took off my seatbelt, and reached over to lock the door, and this women just kind of stared at me for a moment, and then looked in the back. Thank god there was nothing in there, or she would have honestly gotten something that she wanted. I was stuck at a red light behind my dad, waiting for the light to turn green and when it did, I was gone, away from her.

[Rey The Great]

Its easy for officials to brush off all the shootings in Philly but they can't ignore it when the cops are getting shot.
good point here.

[den9]

cant wait til im 21, even though id be afraid to shoot someone, i just always wanted someone to try and rob me and see the look on their face when it backfires on their ass.

[cburwell]

it will stop when people start coming forward and helping the police. when these criminals realize that people will drop a dime on then then i think thigs will clam down. but i dont think the senseless killings and all will ever stop but maybe become under control

This is part of the problem. Unfortunately, most of the people who are around this violence are either to ignorant to step forward or too scared. It's a shame when you hear stories and see pictures of the city and it's surround neighborhoods from my parents generation. There was a time when the surrounding city was a nice place to live. Not anymore. For the most part I hate driving into and out of the city during the day. I usually take chestnut/walnut in/out. The neighborhoods as I get close to Upper Darby are filth holes.

cant wait til im 21, even though id be afraid to shoot someone, i just always wanted someone to try and rob me and see the look on their face when it backfires on their ass.

Please, please, please do not buy a gun with hopes of using it or getting into a situation like that. Believe me, pulling a gun on someone that is trying to rob you may not even phase them. We don't want to read about you on the news.

[Kevin]

****ing bull****. I couldn't even watch Jeopardy tonight It was the semifinals of the tournament of champions. wtf?!!!? I'd rather watch Jeopardy then listen to Jim Gardener say the same thing over and over again. **** went on for a hour and 15 mins on 6 abc.

It's a goddamn jungle in that ****hole we call our city. I can't wait to move farther away.

[Vypurr]

Let the police firebomb half the city! Again...http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0DEFDE1239F936A15755C0A9609582 60

[ScubaSteve]

Let the police firebomb half the city! Again...http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0DEFDE1239F936A15755C0A9609582 60

The MOVE group is an entirely different situation. Not saying that it was handled well but it has little to no significance in this situation.

[ThePrimerSuspect]

thats probably the saddest thing ive ever heard. its like saying o its cool when civilians are shot but you better believe the whole force will be out there if a cop is shot. where are the manhunts for all the innocent people who died in philly this year???

honestly, show me how many "innocent" people have been shot this year. i would have to say that at least 75% of the murders this year probably had it coming. im not saying that its right. its still a ****ed up situation. but i am finding it harder and harder to have any sympathy for people who get killed. when the 17 year old gets killed on the street corner in kensington at 3 am and mom is on the news crying because he was a "good boy," sometimes i cant help but laugh.

[james_ls]

I actually don't have any real input or "solution" on this one.

It seems to be a horrendous spiral of horse crap at this point.

What the hell can REALISTICALLY be done?

[ThePrimerSuspect]

I actually don't have any real input or "solution" on this one.

It seems to be a horrendous spiral of horse crap at this point.

What the hell can REALISTICALLY be done?

teach them how to shoot so they dont kill innocent people with stray bullets:screwy:

[Kevin]

Put these ******* in a cage.


















:banana:

[ScubaSteve]

teach them how to shoot so they dont kill innocent people with stray bullets:screwy:

I'm not worried about the killers killing other killers, what worries me is when I'm walking down the street and 3 guys surround me or when someone is ordering food just to open the door to a gun in their face. Wether innocent people are killed or not they are still being terrorized. Everyone I talk to in this city knows someone who was robbed at gun point or mugged and beaten half to death.

[TROLL]

Put these ******* in a cage.
ignorance is at the root of the problem, and apparently you're contributing... :roll:



to everyone else... i've been out all night, did the catch any suspects?

[wrx_snobordr]

ignorance is at the root of the problem


Don't give them that out. Ignorance is not the root of the problem. Saying so almost justifies what they did, as if they did not know any better. Ignorance is a guy from Wisconsin walking down the streets of NY and buying a fake Rolex and thinking it is real.

No, what is going on in Philly is not ignorance, it is a choice, plain and simple. Every one of those criminals knows what they are doing is wrong. There came a point in life where they had a choice to make, lead a good honest life or go down the path of crime. They chose the latter. Most of them have a record before they murder, if not someone in their crew has one. They know what they are doing is wrong and have suffered the consequences of those actions and continue to lead that life.

They may lack a formal education, which is an issue. They may lack a strong role model in their life, which is a root issue. However, it is not ignorance. They know what they are doing, they know it is wrong, yet they do it anyway.

[TROLL]

oh i'm right there with you... didnt mean to stir anything up there... i was mainly interested in pointing out that the guy i quoted is ignorant and not helping anything...

[On Sale]

Let the police firebomb half the city! Again...http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0DEFDE1239F936A15755C0A9609582 60

LOLZ!!!!


i went and read that... and look what i found in the article.

"The city must pay virtually all the judgment. The two officials held liable -- former Fire Commissioner William Richmond and former Police Commissioner Gregore Sambor -- were ordered to pay $1 a week each for the next 11 years to Ms. Africa and the other plaintiffs."

WOH! please not $616 dollars for killing 11 people!

[poolmike]

honestly, show me how many "innocent" people have been shot this year. i would have to say that at least 75% of the murders this year probably had it coming. im not saying that its right. its still a ****ed up situation. but i am finding it harder and harder to have any sympathy for people who get killed. when the 17 year old gets killed on the street corner in kensington at 3 am and mom is on the news crying because he was a "good boy," sometimes i cant help but laugh.

Agreed... I'm now finding out that the shooter was a 16 year old involved in a drug deal. I'm sure if the police unloaded on him, the whole retarded city would be having a $h!t hemmorage(sp?) about police brutality.

Find the suspects, and have a public hanging on the Art Museum steps right next to Rocky.

[Kevin]

Don't give them that out. Ignorance is not the root of the problem.

Yea, he hates me. We'll throw down one day and sort it all out. :wink:

[poolmike]

This is funny now....Commissioner Whatshisname say 'blahblahblahblah we need more gun control laws, more gun control laws, blah blah blahhhhhblahhhh, gun control, blahhhh...'

Street says 'blahblahblahblahblah, we need more gun control laws, blahblah blahhhh, anyone can obtain a gun on any street corner, blah blah blah, we need more gun laws.....'


What will more gun laws do, other than make it way more difficult for me a law abiding citizen, to buy a gun?? Stupid government officials.

[Vypurr]

The sad part is that it's not just the government officials screaming gun control. They even have thousands of citizens convinced of it! They recently passed laws here at Penn State restricting us from carrying legal concealed weapons on campus...But its still ok to carry them downtown (you could throw a rock from downtown and hit classrooms). In protest, students have been wearing empty holsters on campus every day.

It's been proven that gun control doesn't work. Like you said, it only takes guns from law abiding citizens. Do criminals buy guns legally? Do they wait a week to be approved? Hell no! They would never qualify! Look at NJ...According to these officials NJ should be crime free because you can't carry a concealed weapon anywhere, so there must be no guns right? sure... But look towards the midwest! Even though the population density is much smaller, for every 100,000 people there is significanly less gun crimes. Why? THEY HAVE GUNS TO DEFEND THEMSELVES! Where is someone gonna commit a crime, a city where everyone can carry, or somewhere where its actually illegal to defend yourself with a gun?

[ozthunder]

They caught a 16 year old.

[BradC]

This is funny now....Commissioner Whatshisname say 'blahblahblahblah we need more gun control laws, more gun control laws, blah blah blahhhhhblahhhh, gun control, blahhhh...'

Street says 'blahblahblahblahblah, we need more gun control laws, blahblah blahhhh, anyone can obtain a gun on any street corner, blah blah blah, we need more gun laws.....'


What will more gun laws do, other than make it way more difficult for me a law abiding citizen, to buy a gun?? Stupid government officials.

The sad part is that it's not just the government officials screaming gun control. They even have thousands of citizens convinced of it! They recently passed laws here at Penn State restricting us from carrying legal concealed weapons on campus...But its still ok to carry them downtown (you could throw a rock from downtown and hit classrooms). In protest, students have been wearing empty holsters on campus every day.

It's been proven that gun control doesn't work. Like you said, it only takes guns from law abiding citizens. Do criminals buy guns legally? Do they wait a week to be approved? Hell no! They would never qualify! Look at NJ...According to these officials NJ should be crime free because you can't carry a concealed weapon anywhere, so there must be no guns right? sure... But look towards the midwest! Even though the population density is much smaller, for every 100,000 people there is significanly less gun crimes. Why? THEY HAVE GUNS TO DEFEND THEMSELVES! Where is someone gonna commit a crime, a city where everyone can carry, or somewhere where its actually illegal to defend yourself with a gun?

Thank you both. I was fearing somewhere in this thread someone would say "WE NEED GUN CONTROL" and a bunch of sheeples saying "YEAH!".

Thank you two for having common sense :thumbup:

[AUTORACENBBOY]

I vote for public hangings!!! immediatly. If you kill, you die.
What does it cost to make a noose. Save us some tax dollars. If you attempt to kill. How about we put you on a wall, we spin in a chair about 20x's... then try to shoot you.

or better yet, make some money off these murderers.
Catch all the gang members and rivals... Put them in a big stadium, play it on pay per view. Lets get ready to rumble!!!!
Or we can make a real version of "The Running Man" loved that movie

[BradC]

I vote for public hangings!!! immediatly. If you kill, you die.
What does it cost to make a noose. Save us some tax dollars. If you attempt to kill. How about we put you on a wall, we spin in a chair about 20x's... then try to shoot you.

or better yet, make some money off these murderers.
Catch all the gang members and rivals... Put them in a big stadium, play it on pay per view. Lets get ready to rumble!!!!
Or we can make a real version of "The Running Man" loved that movie

I love it. Convicted muderers and rapists in a fight to the death, lol. Talk about UFC :mrgreen:

Sunday, Sunday, Sunday Live on pay-per-view TV straight from the LA Coliseum!!!

It's the undefeated Eight-Tray Gangstas vs. the struggling Rollin' 50 Brims...


I could just see it now...sponsered by Glock, Dickies and Converse...

[AUTORACENBBOY]

Now heres the million dollar question..
Who would the president be that would pass that law...?
We should make this another thread lol

[poolmike]

Who would the president be that would pass that law...?


wrx_snobordr! Done.

[Kevin]

I do believe that if you do kill someone that you should be killed. Plain and simple.

[CHAOS]

am i the only one who thinks that it couldve been the fault of the cops?

[poolmike]

I haven't heard the full story, but I doubt it. It was supposed to be an undercover drug bust....

[CHAOS]

my understanding is this:

they showed up, in street clothes... to serve a warrant (why the **** would you show up in street clothes to do that?)

and obviously they were dealing with known fellons... now, if you were a drug dealer or some criminal.. wouldnt you be weary of you who you let in the door? ... some random dude shows up demanding to be let in... and you are retarded enough to have a gun handy... i dunno man... i think these guys were kinda asking for it.

[Snoozie]

They were in street clothes b/c they were undercover narcotics officers I thought.

[CHAOS]

They were in street clothes b/c they were undercover narcotics officers I thought.

right but wouldnt serving a warrant in your "undercover" clothes.. blow your cover? ... DURRRR PHILLY

[BradC]

my understanding is this:

they showed up, in street clothes... to serve a warrant (why the **** would you show up in street clothes to do that?)

and obviously they were dealing with known fellons... now, if you were a drug dealer or some criminal.. wouldnt you be weary of you who you let in the door? ... some random dude shows up demanding to be let in... and you are retarded enough to have a gun handy... i dunno man... i think these guys were kinda asking for it.

One of the dangers of being a cop...let alone a UC.

The person at fault is the criminal, plain and simple. If he wasn't engaged in illegal activities, the cops wouldn't have been there for the warrant, he wouldn't have pulled the trigger...

[CHAOS]

im not saying its a good idea to shoot a cop... but i mean come on... be smart about how you approach a criminal.

[Kevin]

Does anybody know if a Philadelphia police officer gets payed good money?

Like why in the hell would you want to be/still actively be a police officer there?

[Snoozie]

right but wouldnt serving a warrant in your "undercover" clothes.. blow your cover? ... DURRRR PHILLY

In the article it says the 2 under cover were accompanied by several other uniformed officers. So I think their cover was blown when all the cop cars were out front and the door was being hammered with a battering ram.

[Kevin]

In the article it says the 2 under cover were accompanied by several other uniformed officers. So I think their cover was blown when all the cop cars were out front and the door was being hammered with a battering ram.

And he got away? wtf

[scutzi128]

Damn my dad grew up 2 blocks from there.

[olletsocmit]

at least they shot cops.

[wrx_snobordr]

wrx_snobordr! Done.

I accept your nomination.

[BradC]

at least they shot cops.

You can't be serious.

What the **** is the matter with you?

[Vypurr]

Maybe he meant instead of shooting children?

[dickerdieter]

at least they shot cops.

kill yourself

[ThePrimerSuspect]

at least they shot cops.

im sorry? what? please clarify before i flip the **** out.

[AUTORACENBBOY]

hopefully he meant, rather than innocent kids or something... thats a big statement for no clarification

[CHAOS]

hahaha wow, tim, you have a pm.

[Vypurr]

I will see him in like an hour...I will tell him to clear that one up! He might have truely been trying to be an a-hole though.

[AREA1320]

jesus... this is the reason why I dont visit Philly that much any more.. No more 3am Pats runs for me.

friggin idiots. and to think its called the City of Brotherly love.. haha what a joke

[jdmwill]

stupid **** that shot the police officers 16years old.were the **** are the parents at probably having some more ghetto ass bebe kids.i live 5 minutes away from were this happened.these **** faces have the same m.o.act the same wear the same close and follow the same lifestyle.

were did we go wrong to justify one killing over another.i believe make the parents liable for their kids **** ups.probably just probably some of these parent may do something about how to raise them.i meen everytime i see the parents talk about there kids on tv its the same thing.i cant control him/her,i give up on his ass,why dont you raise him if you could do a better job.

will

[AUTORACENBBOY]

stupid **** that shot the police officers 16years old.were the **** are the parents at probably having some more ghetto ass bebe kids.i live 5 minutes away from were this happened.these **** faces have the same m.o.act the same wear the same close and follow the same lifestyle.

were did we go wrong to justify one killing over another.i believe make the parents liable for their kids **** ups.probably just probably some of these parent may do something about how to raise them.i meen everytime i see the parents talk about there kids on tv its the same thing.i cant control him/her,i give up on his ass,why dont you raise him if you could do a better job.

will

I was thinking the same thing with andy reid. His sons seemed to wanting to play the gangster lifestyle

PHILADELPHIA- the city of self population control

[jdmwill]

any of you guys catch the police officer that got shot a couple of month back in the face.man talk about a real heroe my man cant wait to comeback.i heard that one of the police officer that got shot had the bullet pulled out with out any painkiller.talk about hardcore man.godbless the police officers that got shot last night i want to thank all the police officer for the hard work they do.

[wrx_snobordr]

stupid **** that shot the police officers 16years old.were the **** are the parents at probably having some more ghetto ass bebe kids.i live 5 minutes away from were this happened.these **** faces have the same m.o.act the same wear the same close and follow the same lifestyle.

were did we go wrong to justify one killing over another.i believe make the parents liable for their kids **** ups.probably just probably some of these parent may do something about how to raise them.i meen everytime i see the parents talk about there kids on tv its the same thing.i cant control him/her,i give up on his ass,why dont you raise him if you could do a better job.

will

The only problem is, how do you punish them? If you throw them in jail you then leave their other children to fend for themselves. Most of these kids come from broken homes so placing them in the care of the other parent might actually be worse for society. You can't fine them because they get their money from the government so you would essentially be fining yourself. If they have less money it might inflame the situation even more.

[AUTORACENBBOY]

Send Them To Canada!!!!!!

[scutzi128]

^^Word

[olletsocmit]

Send Them To Canada!!!!!!

hahah. everyone needs to calm down. hahahha. i ment at least it was not a little kid like last week or an innocent family or a parent with kids. i did not mean that is was good the cops were killed. i always get everyone worked up.

[olletsocmit]

everyone can relax now. hahaha wow.

[wrx_snobordr]

Send Them To Canada!!!!!!

F that. Don't ruin Canada, they give us Labatts and Pam Anderson. Send them to Mexico along with the illegals.

[olletsocmit]

hahah. i have an idea. we could have all the criminals fight to the death in Michael Vick's back yard instead of dogs..

[SovXietday]

Jail doesn't do anything, the only thing they learn is how to do the crime better next time.

I say it's time to bring back the death penalty and medival torture devices.

[jdmwill]

The only problem is, how do you punish them? If you throw them in jail you then leave their other children to fend for themselves. Most of these kids come from broken homes so placing them in the care of the other parent might actually be worse for society. You can't fine them because they get their money from the government so you would essentially be fining yourself. If they have less money it might inflame the situation even more.


make them go on community service.have them take care of quadruplegics that were victim of gun shot wounds.specially if they were put in that place by that particular parents offspring.and to prevent after school programs from closing for under preveliage children.

ps can be your minister of defense.lol

[Vypurr]

Screw that! Send them to Afghanistan and let them be true gangstas!

[AREA1320]

Screw that! Send them to Afghanistan and let them be true gangstas!

seriously.. send them to boot camp.. we'll see how tough they really are

[Kevin]

I agree with Canada and Mexico. It was on the news that they want to widen the Rio Grande AHHAHHAHAHAHA

[poolmike]

I said it before and I'll say it again. Public Hangings! That used to be the punishment for stealing a horse! Now we are just a bunch of pansies, calling it brutality. You are damn right it is!

[Keeper1343]

[QUOTE=SovXietday;724267]Jail doesn't do anything, the only thing they learn is how to do the crime better next time. QUOTE]

not really...you can't learn off someone dumb enough to get caught, right???
But this has to stop. I grew up in that area and I remember when it was nice and calm. Now all these kids are walking around thinking they can do what they want. People need to start beating their kids again.

And to whoever said that they don't mind for the government to be able to search ur things at anytime for any reason..... are you serious!!??? Why don't you just give them your privacy on a platter. This government is already trying to take complete control over your life now, let alone people like u giving it away. I think we need to take back our privacy and get these jackass's out of office. Keeper1343 for president!!! haha Just kidding... but seriously.

[wrx_snobordr]

[QUOTE=SovXietday;724267]Jail doesn't do anything, the only thing they learn is how to do the crime better next time. QUOTE]

not really...you can't learn off someone dumb enough to get caught, right???
But this has to stop. I grew up in that area and I remember when it was nice and calm. Now all these kids are walking around thinking they can do what they want. People need to start beating their kids again.

And to whoever said that they don't mind for the government to be able to search ur things at anytime for any reason..... are you serious!!??? Why don't you just give them your privacy on a platter. This government is already trying to take complete control over your life now, let alone people like u giving it away. I think we need to take back our privacy and get these jackass's out of office. Keeper1343 for president!!! haha Just kidding... but seriously.

First, please clarify what "jackasses" you mean.

Second, I agree that random searches without cause are not permissible under the constitution.

Third, how is the government trying to take over your life now?

Will you be my opponent? ha ha

[poolmike]

[QUOTE=Keeper1343;724420]



Third, how is the government trying to take over your life now?

Will you be my opponent? ha ha

Well, the gubberment wants all of our money, they are in our shtuff all the time....and it will only get worse if those crap-eating liberals get in..

Anywho, did you get my 'campaign finance $$$'??? when you get elected, I might need you to get me out of a tight spot.:lol:

[wrx_snobordr]

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Well, the gubberment wants all of our money, they are in our shtuff all the time....and it will only get worse if those crap-eating liberals get in..

Anywho, did you get my 'campaign finance $$$'??? when you get elected, I might need you to get me out of a tight spot.:lol:

I was looking for him to respond so I could point that out. Way to ruin it!

I haven't received it yet. If you need some favors can you funnel your contributions through other donors so thee is no direct link between us? HA HA

[Keeper1343]

All i am saying is why can't this government have some one in office that cares about the average joes??? Why are these people so corrupt that they can't even take notice to anything other than their own pockets. They are the people running this country into the ground. Its the average joes that keep this country running. With all the bullsh*t bush started with this war and causing the price of gas to triple, and between the outsourcing that has occured, How in the world is a family going to survive these days. Back in the day, One person worked and could provide for his entire family(which was usually a wife and three kids). Now you have 2 people working full time and are barely scraping by with two kids. Seems F**ked up to me.

[poolmike]

OH NO! Here we go again.

[Kevin]

Yea, it's like how there's no more middle class. It's a shame.

[poolmike]

The middle class does exist. Now...back to our regularly scheduled topic.

[Keeper1343]

it won't for long

[ScubaSteve]

We have an upper and lower middle class but ironically our middle class has no middle.

[jdm free]

The middle class does exist. Now...back to our regularly scheduled topic.


yes.....two cops were shot again, they find the ****ers yet?

[wrx_snobordr]

All i am saying is why can't this government have some one in office that cares about the average joes??? Why are these people so corrupt that they can't even take notice to anything other than their own pockets. They are the people running this country into the ground. Its the average joes that keep this country running. With all the bullsh*t bush started with this war and causing the price of gas to triple, and between the outsourcing that has occured, How in the world is a family going to survive these days. Back in the day, One person worked and could provide for his entire family(which was usually a wife and three kids). Now you have 2 people working full time and are barely scraping by with two kids. Seems F**ked up to me.

Sorry, cant let this go without a few points. I will avoid the war as it is highly contentious and needs it own thread.

Bush did NOT cause the price of gas to triple. It was many events happening simultaneously. 9/11 was part of it, it introduced the terror premium into the price. Venezuela also dropped production, then repatriated the oil fields stoking fears that the government would limit production further. Areas of Africa are at war and those areas are oil rich. There have been attacks on pipelines which has disrupted flow and increased the fear premium. Iraq was part of it, losing their production was a hit. OPEC cut production because they like money and less supply of an inelastic price demand product equals large increase in price. China and India are increasing their demand in leaps and bounds and will soon eclipse us as the worlds largest purchaser. With oil supply decreasing and demand increasing prices go up. Throw in the fact that the liberals pushed for MTBE to be added and then recently decided it was bad and then pushed for ethonal to replace it, a product which is mush more costly in time and money to use and you have a further increase in price. This is a very basic explination of a very complex issue, but I think you can see that Bush and our government can do very little when it comes to the price of gasoline. No windfall tax or any other ass backwards plan you hear Pelosi and her minions pushing will help the matter, it will only hurt.

Outsourcing is NOT a Bush issue alone. Remember Clinton is the one who signed NAFTA, which is largely responsible for many of our manufacturing jobs going to Mexico. Also, thank greedy union bosses. Ask yourself why Subaru and Toyota can afford to have plants in America, pay their workers well and be non-union and the big three can not?

The middle class is not disappearing, it is a myth. This is a claim based off of salary data that is outdated. They base the "middle class" off a sertain spread in income numbers. These numbers are not corrected for inflation and increases in wages. So, as real income has increased, look it up, the criteria for what defines "middle class" has remained the same.

I will say this. Bush is an IDIOT for not instituting some sort of war tax. It is his duty as commander in chief to fund the war. He is not doing it with any concern for the future, he is very short sighted. But, the tax cuts were responsible for an increase in tax revenue. Just not enough to pay off the debt. That needs to change.

[Keeper1343]

i wasn't blaming everything on bush. just the war. Good points though. Still hate our government and how corrupt they are.

But i heard from my dad that they found the kid.... is this true or is he a F**KTARD

[goodfella732]

since when does TST like the police? After the 100 I hate Cops threads and everyone shouting how much they are a bunch of d-bags I figured this would make everyone happy. Bunch of hyprocrites.

[Z3R0]

since when does TST like the police? After the 100 I hate Cops threads and everyone shouting how much they are a bunch of d-bags I figured this would make everyone happy. Bunch of hyprocrites.

Awww crap what happend to the cop hate threads? I knew I missed something...

[Vypurr]

I dislike police officers who go out of their way to be dicks, but I respect honest people who get shot doing their job.

[ScubaSteve]

since when does TST like the police? After the 100 I hate Cops threads and everyone shouting how much they are a bunch of d-bags I figured this would make everyone happy. Bunch of hyprocrites.

Traffic cops are different then narcotics officers in north philly

[rotarychainsaw]

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