2009 Hyundai Coupe

[JerseyTuscani]

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This shots were takin at a marketing campaign for Hyundai. Apparently it's gonna have some options like: iPod integration, Brembo brakes, bluetooth and other gizmos. Looks good but just doesn't look as aggresive as the 03-06's. It's gonna come with two motor options a turbo I4 with 215 HP or a V6 with 300 HP plus it's gonna be RWD which is a huge plus.

[__owens__]

its still a hyundai

[jdm free]

why is there a mustang at a hyundai marketing event?

looks better than the tib out now

[Vypurr]

why is there a mustang at a hyundai marketing event?

looks better than the tib out now

Because this car is clearly aimed at those considering a Mustang.

[jdm free]

Because this car is clearly aimed at those considering a Mustang.
i didn't even think of that since its only a 4 and 6 cylinder

but I don't think that they could take away many sales from Ford

[ToyotaTat]

yea the mustang doesn't seem to make much sense to me either.....engine options seem nice, but i don't know if i like the body or not, seems like a bit of a cross between a g35 and g6

[jdm free]

it really looks lke the sentra coupe

[Vypurr]

i didn't even think of that since its only a 4 and 6 cylinder

but I don't think that they could take away many sales from Ford

Think about it like this though...

What model mustang do most people buy? 6-Cylinder Non-convertible.
Why? Younger people want a sporty car that is affordable (Thats why they buy the V6)

How can a company like Hyundai compete?

Better interior
Better safety ratings
More power out of their smaller engines
Better gas mileage
Lower prices
Better warrenty (Think 10year/100,000miles)


If Hyundai can do all of that, they may have a formula for a successful platform. No, they will not outsell the Mustang immediatly, maybe they never will. But any sales in this market would be more than they currently have. It's the same thing that they are trying to do to Lexus/Mercedes. Show that their product is 1/2 the price, and has everything that a Lexus/Mercedes has! Most people do not buy a Hyundai instead of a Lexus/Mercedes, but the people who do buy these are people who want the luxury, but cannot afford the real thing!

I can see the same thing happening here. Young people looking for a first new car who want something sporty shop around. They look at Mustangs and then see this. It's meets everything in my list above, and they would be dumb to buy the Mustang over this. Now the kid whose parents are gonna buy him a car is gonna buy the Mustang because he doesn't have to pay for it.

See my point? (not sarcasm, i would love to talk more on the subject)

[MPowerKai]

I would take the boosted one, it would be easier to make power out of :)

[jdm free]

Think about it like this though...

What model mustang do most people buy? 6-Cylinder Non-convertible.
Why? Younger people want a sporty car that is affordable (Thats why they buy the V6)

How can a company like Hyundai compete?

Better interior
Better safety ratings
More power out of their smaller engines
Better gas mileage
Lower prices
Better warrenty (Think 10year/100,000miles)


If Hyundai can do all of that, they may have a formula for a successful platform. No, they will not outsell the Mustang immediatly, maybe they never will. But any sales in this market would be more than they currently have. It's the same thing that they are trying to do to Lexus/Mercedes. Show that their product is 1/2 the price, and has everything that a Lexus/Mercedes has! Most people do not buy a Hyundai instead of a Lexus/Mercedes, but the people who do buy these are people who want the luxury, but cannot afford the real thing!

I can see the same thing happening here. Young people looking for a first new car who want something sporty shop around. They look at Mustangs and then see this. It's meets everything in my list above, and they would be dumb to buy the Mustang over this. Now the kid whose parents are gonna buy him a car is gonna buy the Mustang because he doesn't have to pay for it.

See my point? (not sarcasm, i would love to talk more on the subject)

thinking about it that way i can agree with that.

[ozthunder]

It will never outsell the Mustang, don't kid yourselves. The Mustang is not the best of cars, hell, it's prolly not even the best in it's class. But it has 40+ years of pedigree, history, and a fanbase, and as long as that is perpetuated every decade, then i don't see anything putting a dent in it.

And Hyundais started 10 year warranties for a reason; their car's were horse ****. They are much, much, much better now, but sadly most still associate Korean with cheap (like guitars, in a sense).

[jdm free]

It will never outsell the Mustang, don't kid yourselves. The Mustang is not the best of cars, hell, it's prolly not even the best in it's class. But it has 40+ years of pedigree, history, and a fanbase, and as long as that is perpetuated every decade, then i don't see anything putting a dent in it.

And Hyundais started 10 year warranties for a reason; their car's were horse ****. They are much, much, much better now, but sadly most still associate Korean with cheap (like guitars, in a sense).

neither of us said it would outsell a mustang, the reason the mustang has such great sales is because of the history it has(which is what i said in one of my earlier posts or thats what i was implying)

[ozthunder]

Yea I know, I was merely enforcing my opinion lol

I'm sure it'll be awesome, especially with the rumored V8. However...there are connotations which I don't think it'll beat UNLESS it truly is groundbreaking in what Vypurr listed. Almost like the GTR for Nissan; except Nissans rep is much better and the GTR is more or less in a class of it's own for the price.

[MPowerKai]

And Hyundais started 10 year warranties for a reason; their car's were horse ****. They are much, much, much better now, but sadly most still associate Korean with cheap (like guitars, in a sense).

As long as it's under warranty I don't care :-p

My friend hyundai accent takes a lot less maintanence than my M3

[ozthunder]

That's b/c its a BMW, and never has any German brand been noted for reliability and low maintenace costs, cmon now. That was a silly comparison.

I merely said that the reasoning for the 10 year warranty was their past history.

[88TSI_Rob]

The car looks like they took design elements of Lexus (front end), Mercedes (doors), Audi (lower air dam), BMW (trunk lid), Nissan (350Z tail lights), and Acura (RSX C-pillar) and used a morphing program to smoosh all of it into one coupe. The Koreans need their own design language.

The car needs to be cheap, have a lot of aftermarket support, and have a bullet-proof engine (Hyundai's 1st turbo engine?) to succeed. I'm hoping it does, we need more reasonably priced RWD coupes like this available in the US.

[jdm free]

I'm sure it'll be awesome, especially with the rumored V8.

i think a V8 would be a complete failure since hyundai doesnt even make a 8 cylinder. n would hyundai try an aim that to compete with the GTR?



many smaller car companies steal ideas/designs from others that are successful. is any car really not inspired by another?

it would be nice for a rwd to be fairly priced especially with the warranty they offer, i know when i start looking for another car in a few yrs this will probably be on my list depending on how they do and the aftermarket support

[ozthunder]

I never said it was going to compete with the GT-R, reread what I said lol

[jdm free]

I never said it was going to compete with the GT-R, reread what I said lol

i know that, i was just asking what could it possibly compete with in the import world, they probably would go after mustang gt sales.

[ozthunder]

350z...RX8...

[jdm free]

350z...RX8...

but there v6 not v8s

[ozthunder]

but there v6 not v8s

So? You think Nissan moved to a higher hp, lower torque rated engine for ****s? They did it b/c 300hp sells. And if you don't think the Z was meant to compete with the Mustang, you gotta do more research on the category lol.

I'd also argue the new TT too, but to a much lesser extent.

[TTsupra911]

also keep in mind that more then likely that the Engine placed in the 4 cyl turbo one will more then likely be the new "world engine". The same one that is used in the Caliber SRT-4.

[Vypurr]

I would assume that the 4cyl would also get better gas mileage and have a much stronger than a V6. That is traditionally the case. Look at 80s turbo dodge. Sure, the v6 made more power from the factory. But the turbo 4s could be cranked up to be faster than anything else at the time in their class (meaning forget the GNX).

[NOPSTNS]

The car needs to be cheap, have a lot of aftermarket support, and have a bullet-proof engine (Hyundai's 1st turbo engine?) to succeed. I'm hoping it does, we need more reasonably priced RWD coupes like this available in the US.

its not their first turbo engine.
and btw hyundai mitsu and mopar share the same engines and trannies so...

4B11 T/C???? i wish.

i have been prayin for sporty rwd coupes that r affordable for yrs, finally, its time!

perhaps hyundais new coupe will make mazda rethink the kabura and nissan rethink whatever lil coupe they had as a concept a few yrs back...


"its still a hyundai" is an asshole remark.

toyota wasnt ALWAYS the best car in the world...they were once junk too and i think hyundai is really turnin around....

[NOPSTNS]

double post! what what

but there v6 not v8s

only one of them is v6.

[twistedlanes]

**** I hope they come out with this thing..I'll be one of the first to drive it Lol since I work for them now. Also they need this thing the tib sales suck..and if this thing is any good Hyundai will get a double take from some ppl.

[ozthunder]

lol...how bad are sales?

[jdm free]

double post! what what



only one of them is v6.

yea an the other is a rotary.....sorry if offended u mr nopstns jk

[twistedlanes]

lol...how bad are sales?

Lol lets just say we have a lot of tibs on the lot...also I hear they haven't sold one in at least three months, maybe a used one thats it. The rest of the lineup is doing pretty well. On the Mazda side the mazda 3 is going like crazy! sh** I want a speed 3 those things are quick.

[NOPSTNS]

where do u work? i work at a mazda dealer too....reedman toll....they sell all types of cars there and the only cars i see movin are the mazda3's.

i drove a MS3 a couple times but last week was the first time i put one on the highway, holy **** those suckers are fast. third gear is the gear to be in....when the 2.3l turbo engine first came out they sent me to mazda school to learn about them, apparently they pulled timing and boost and fuel and throttle opening in first and second gear to keep the car under control. the car only makes 60% of its power in first and 77% in second. it isnt until 3rd gear when the pcm allows u to have all 280hp and 300ft lbs of torque....

and believe me


its got that much

[ozthunder]

What year are those MS3's?! They have 280hp stock?!

[NOPSTNS]

they are limited run for 07 and 08

they are rated 263 hp and 280 ft lbs but thats under rated

[ozthunder]

Ah..I just read a review. Apparently torque steer and the shifter are downsides.

[twistedlanes]

I'm at Pacifico Mazda and yeah the 3's are the sh** I was bored today and took one behind the airport. I almost cried because compared to my Monte carlo that thing is sex....Lol

[twistedlanes]

Ah..I just read a review. Apparently torque steer and the shifter are downsides.

haha yeah I can vouch for the torque steer when you punch it in second it kinda wants to get away from you but I gots forearm muscles Lol and the shifter I can live with...like any one you get used to it and adjust accordingly.

[ozthunder]

True. Mines horrible, I need to get the ripshift.

But alas..this coupe will compete with other like RWD coupes in its class..not limited to, but including- the Mustang, Challenger (lesser models, obviously), 350Z, RX8, lesser Camaro's, etc.

[twistedlanes]

As long as Hyundai has something that says its comparable to those which the tib wasn't than I think it will sell. You never know what you can do unless you try, also with the affordability of the current hyundai's once a few kids get these and like them they are gonna go like civics Lol.

[NOPSTNS]

heres a link to some specs...unofficial at best.

http://www.motorauthority.com/cars/hyundai/hyundais-new-coupe-caught-uncovered/

they are claiming a 2.0l turbo, which my guess would be from brother comp mitsu.....let the hyundai bashing come from the mitsu nerds here but they share engines and its a fact so **** off

[ozthunder]

Yea saw that this morning.

[NOPSTNS]

4b11
4b11
4b11
4b11
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[twistedlanes]

I want some videos Lol

[Gorilla Unit 33]

looks like this thing might be something ill have to check out once it gets in the dealership's, if it ever gets there. Im not so sure i would put there 300hp v6 down so much though, i think they could pull something like that off. I would just have to say i hope they dont make this a tank of a car and keep the weight under or arround 27-2800lbs. id hate to see this thing end up like the newest version of the eclipse and only having 260hp and being 3400lbs, not to mention a near 15 second 1/4 mile time.

[jdm free]

19 grand for a rwd turbo coupe thats brand new!! wow!!

who took the pictures, some1 on here?


n did anybody notice that there isnt a badge on it

[sisforsurfing]

4b11
4b11
4b11
4b11
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If that's true I'm going to test drive one. I've never really liked any of Hyundai's line but RWD + turbo 4 banger could sway me quickly. Plus it doesn't look too bad...

This is assuming the 4b11 is any good, but last time Mitsu and Hyundai put the same engine in their cars really good things happened.
edit: it looks big though... hopefully it's not a fat pig. (probably will be)

[99SL2_Modder]

6k for an upgrade from a turbo 4 to a v6? Jesus christ that's a huge jump in price.

God, it'll be over 30k for the Tau if they put it in

[twistedlanes]

19 grand for a rwd turbo coupe thats brand new!! wow!!

who took the pictures, some1 on here?


n did anybody notice that there isnt a badge on it

This is for you buddy.


http://www.autoblog.com/2007/04/30/you-ready-for-a-v8-powered-rwd-coupe-from-hyundai/

and this...



"Future driven" Hyundai will be abandoning front-wheel drive for its next Tiburon.

Due to be unveiled towards the end of 2007 before a local debut the following year, the rear-wheel drive coupe will be a "serious sports car", according to a senior Hyundai Motor Company executive.

Adding further credence to Hyundai's sports image push is its re-entry into the World Rally Championship from 2008.

The company says it will field an all-wheel drive "sports car" very loosely derived from the yet-to-be released Accent replacement, the front-wheel drive MC4 small car.


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and finally doesn't it look like this Maserati a little bit?

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[ITSTOCK]

It's just odd knowing that we already are up to $40,000 Saturns (fully loaded vues) and are going to have $30,000 hyundai's not too long from now.

That's some scary stuff! BTW, it looks kind of like the Honda accord, Eclipse, G35, all mixed in one. I swear, automakers have no design departments anymore, they just copy off everyone else.

[TTsupra911]

hmmm turbo'd 4 banger again.... looks like next summer or fall may be a selling time for me...

[Captain Planet]

I don't really like the design.

[twistedlanes]

I actually like the yellow one more than the silver one, its a little more futuristic.

[Wheeler]

all of those are concept car photos from a few years back. While it looks great that vehicle will never see the streets.

[twistedlanes]

trust me its on the way...

[Wheeler]

if it is I'm excited about it. However I remember pictures of it popping up maybe two or three years ago with it being the rummered replacement for the Tib

[twistedlanes]

yeah there was a lot of talk about it being the replacement for the tib, but then there were talks that it was the new tib. I've been reading around for a little while and there is mixed info. Some say this will be the new tib and that it will just have more power via the turbo 4 and the same 3.3 an or 3.8 v6s that are in the hyundai suvs. They are also saying it will stay front wheel drive and that there will be another hyundai that is rear wheel and is a v8. From all of this and so many different opinions I figure since they are going to be using there new genesis platform anyway they are going to make the tib rear wheel drive and just offer two or three different engine options. The most likely will be the two that aren't really offered yet, the turbo four and the v8 that way they will be able to put them in other models.

[Dave]

I would assume that the 4cyl would also get better gas mileage and have a much stronger than a V6. That is traditionally the case. Look at 80s turbo dodge. Sure, the v6 made more power from the factory. But the turbo 4s could be cranked up to be faster than anything else at the time in their class (meaning forget the GNX).

incorrect, the v6 never out powered the turbos. it equalled the non intercooled T1 cars in power but not in torque and was completely outclassed by the T2 T3 T4 and maserati turbo plants

[Dave]

and for they guy who said koreans cant style:

http://www.cartype.com/images/page/proto_spirra_sf1.jpg

oh and whos the jackass making multiple accounts? sequential numbers and characters from the same crap show. real smart, wheres troll at with the ban stick?

[Dave]

oh and i'll take my tibby replacement with a srt crankswap thanks

[twistedlanes]

I was wondering about them damn superheroes...

[99SL2_Modder]

It's just odd knowing that we already are up to $40,000 Saturns (fully loaded vues) and are going to have $30,000 hyundai's not too long from now.

That's some scary stuff! BTW, it looks kind of like the Honda accord, Eclipse, G35, all mixed in one. I swear, automakers have no design departments anymore, they just copy off everyone else.

At least the Saturns didn't have issues just blowing the **** up.

(Although, the Vue's are just plain nastyass vehicles and SHOULD blow the **** up.)

[JerseyTuscani]

ummm when did hyundais blow up?

[ITSTOCK]

and for they guy who said koreans cant style:

http://www.cartype.com/images/page/proto_spirra_sf1.jpg

oh and whos the jackass making multiple accounts? sequential numbers and characters from the same crap show. real smart, wheres troll at with the ban stick?

If that's directed towards me (don't know), I am talking about ALL of the major auto makers!

[evomike]

Hyundais used to blow up all the time, I don't think that car will ever come with a v8 if it is rwd it will probably be plauged with problems, you have to remember hyundai doesn't make rwd vehicles so I'm sure that rear was farmed out I can see it now a lot of people breaking rears and whatnot if theese things can make power. I also think this car will be a pig and will be a bit cheap they will probably try to cram a bunch of crap into it and cheap out on stuff, all I can say is I will never considder buying this and I don't really think it will take away from mustang sales 2 different ends ofthe spectrum.

[NOPSTNS]

hyundai has been makin rwd for a while, just not sold in america, they had a sedan thats rwd for yrs and they have had awd for a very long ass time so...yeah, they got the diffs for it.

many ppls views similar to evomikes shall stay the same unless they drive it, which seems to be a probability if only at knifepoint. which is a shame bc americans only care about badges and not whats underneath, and i kno this will be a great car.

[evomike]

No I could drive the car and not think its bad I still wouldn't purchase, I have no use for a car like that plan and simple. If I was gonna buy a rwd coupe though I would buy something figured out and proven.

[evomike]

And in response to the diffs honda and mazda make rwd and awd and they don't make the diffs unless they changed it for the rx8

[twistedlanes]

well its coming so when it comes out you'll just have to see for yourself

[evomike]

I'm sure ill never drive one I'm far to busy to go look at something I have no interest or use for

[twistedlanes]

well take a look at these new pics! crazy! I like the color combo best.
http://www.motortrend.com/photo_gallery/112_0711_hyundai_concept_genesis_coupe_photo_galle ry/photo_17.html

[twistedlanes]

http://www.motortrend.com/photo_gallery/112_0711_hyundai_concept_genesis_coupe_photo_galle ry


heres the article, aww no v8...and its not replacing the tib.

[NOPSTNS]

And in response to the diffs honda and mazda make rwd and awd and they don't make the diffs unless they changed it for the rx8

they dont make thier own diffs? who does it then? im not tryin to be a jerk i have no proof to argue with u but i was just askin for more info thats all.

as far as i kno, the diff in the 8 is new. well, the ring and pinion is new, at least thats what i kno for a fact.

the active torque split awd in mazdaspeed 6 and cx7 and cx9 uses a modified rx8 diff and the third gen (newest) mx5 uses a modified rx8 diff as well. (the 3rd gen mx5 is built off the rx8 platform as well)





and back on topic...im sad that the tib will remain, i used to own one and i liked it just fine but its been around for too long and its NOT an icon so it needs to die.

and these shots from the la show are very concept as compared to the silver shots from earlier on, seems they WOWED it up a tad for the la show....

[BlackZ05]

My friend showed me these earlier today
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/JCamaro84z/01_rmr_genesis_coupe_build.jpg
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[OPZ]

Those are hot as hell...but it should be easy to find more pics like those since they are out now in Korea.