srt4 check in

[Gorilla Unit 33]

:thumbup: i was just wondering cause i went and test drove an srt4 lastr week and im going back tonight to do it again.... dont get any ideas lol but HOW MANY PEOPLE HERE HAVE AN SRT4 and what are the pros and cons to them? i know there the best times & power for the money plus my insurance is only gonna be 190 a month so im totally down with getttin one ..... Oooppsss :roll:

shhhh

... just answer my questions and ill check back to see whats up

[SilverTurboRidin]

Well depends...Every car has its downfall...

What year are you looking at...brand new?

[Gorilla Unit 33]

still havent made my decision i got plenty of time though i gotta sell my lancer for 12grand (which im not askin much) and then ill be buyin one within hours of that, but do all of them only have crank down rear windows none have power? you name the downfalls for each year that way it will help me make my decision easier thanx

[CarbonIS]

I'd actually be interested in people's responses here too.......

[htheduck]

I own one. Pros you've listed VALUE-that was my primary reason. Some more off the top of my head:

-03 & 04.5 model years had a power train warranty of 7/70k right from Dodge-I can't think of another manf. that could match that in the same year-perhaps Hundai?
-gas mileage (if conservative) approx 27 mpg for a 230 hp rated vehicle: my best demonstrated: 27mpg, worst: 8.3mpg
-go and review the results of 1 Lap-SRT4 did well in it's class
-easily upgradeable & relative cost for: suspension & engine
-04 & 05 models have LSDs, bigger injectors, few more hp
-sturdy tranny and engine overall if driven normal

Cons:
-gas mileage poor (if you like boost)
-03 model-NO LSD
-questionable support/warranty for Mopar Stage upgrades from dealers
-stock rake
-rear tension strut bushings, soft
-narrow stock wheels: 17x6
-rear windows are manual: all years (already stated)
-lack of muffler (stock design) vs. local law enforcement
-no cruise control

That is all that I can think of right now. If you want to do more research I would suggest SRTForums.com. Good luck.
-H :wiggle:

[SilverTurboRidin]

Law enforcement cant do squat....Just take that ticket to the dealer, have them right off that its stock, say bye to the ticket.

[smoger]

As for the power rear windows.. if it really bothers you THAT much.. there is a kit sold on srtforums for about 200 i believe, maybe a little more, maybe a little less to convert them to power

i ride in the drivers seat so i couldnt care less if theres cranks back there or not.

lets see.. mine is an 03 and i have 35,450 miles as of the last time i parked it in the garage.

ive been back to the dealership for 1 problem, bad headlight lenses which seemed to be a problem on early 03's but i havent seen anyone with an 04+ with the problem. the dealer was totally cool and had a new set(w/ revised part #) for me within a week, no questions asked.

wheelhop is a problem of course but that comes with the territory. solid front lower control arm bushings and upgraded motormounts will get rid of it COMPLETELY.

i have seen a bunch of '05 owners with tranny problems(but being covered under warranty). as howard said.. 03's and early 04's have the 7/70, whereas 05's do not.

basically.. for every nag of the car there is a relatively simple fix.

and of course the mopar stage kits are awesome for easy to install and reliable performance.

oh and the other major problem, if you consider it one, is that NOONE will take the car seriously or give it respect.. heck based on your first post you seemed ashamed to want to get one so you know first hand.

any other specific questions let me know and ill do my best to answer

[PSI Chick]

you all forgot the 3000 ft turning radius. that's my only real complaint. everything else that you want to nitpick about the car can be fixed for pretty cheap from the aftermarket. there's a huge aftermarket segement for the car now.

i have a 03 with 20k on her. no major issues other than the ones i've caused by modding and going to the track. i like to break stuff at the track :rolleyes:

[smoger]

you all forgot the 3000 ft turning radius. that's my only real complaint. everything else that you want to nitpick about the car can be fixed for pretty cheap from the aftermarket. there's a huge aftermarket segement for the car now.

i have a 03 with 20k on her. no major issues other than the ones i've caused by modding and going to the track. i like to break stuff at the track :rolleyes:

lol, i did forget about that.. but then again who makes a car buying decision based on that?

it does make my neon feel like it has 4 wheel steering though, lol

[Gorilla Unit 33]

ok so it sounds like the 2004 is the best deal really it has lsd and the warranty would carry over to me being the owner (already checked with dealership) and as long as theres no "red flags" on the vin then its all good and ill be able to keep modding it with mopar stuff and keep the warrenty :banana:

[smoger]

ok so it sounds like the 2004 is the best deal really it has lsd and the warranty would carry over to me being the owner (already checked with dealership) and as long as theres no "red flags" on the vin then its all good and ill be able to keep modding it with mopar stuff and keep the warrenty :banana:

as long as you are not the third owner. only first and second owner get the warranty.

[SRTREX]

It is a great car and can stand up to alot of abuse. Keep it stock and it will last for a long time. No one gives them respect until they race you and realize. I can't wait to see the look on some people's faces when they come across me on the street with my new setup. I had no major problems with a bigger turbo for over 1 yr. Turning radius does suck though.

[SilverTurboRidin]

hmm your going over 600hp?? How so.

[smoger]

hmm your going over 600hp?? How so.

probably the same way as the guy on srtforums pushing over 400 with the stock turbo :eek:


..or at least he ran that for a day when he managed to have his car in one peice and make it to a dyno, lol

[SilverTurboRidin]

hmm your going over 600hp?? How so.

probably the same way as the guy on srtforums pushing over 400 with the stock turbo :eek:


..or at least he ran that for a day when he managed to have his car in one peice and make it to a dyno, lol

Yeah, i was just interested. I love see high horsepower srt's....But we all know how reliable they are :thumbdow:

[smoger]

hmm your going over 600hp?? How so.

probably the same way as the guy on srtforums pushing over 400 with the stock turbo :eek:


..or at least he ran that for a day when he managed to have his car in one peice and make it to a dyno, lol

Yeah, i was just interested. I love see high horsepower srt's....But we all know how reliable they are :thumbdow:

yeah i dont know what the deal is, theres a lot of guys pushing 500+whp but none of them seem to be able to do anything.

then you have guys like tiny, who i believe only dynoed 3xx(albeit the setup may have changed since then, and he may have a newer/higher dyno) to the wheels, running 11's all day long. just goes to show theres more to the game then the high #'s

[SilverTurboRidin]

Yup....Its cool having 500+HP but can you get it to the ground..and how fast.

[htheduck]

At that point of pushing 500+ HP you have to ask yourself, what is the LIMITING FACTOR HERE? You need enough beefing up of the tranny to match the engine.

[PSI Chick]

the tranny's not the problem, plain old traction is.

[SilverTurboRidin]

the tranny's not the problem, plain old traction is.

lol thats why i asked if you could get it to the ground.

[Gorilla Unit 33]

hmm your going over 600hp?? How so.

probably the same way as the guy on srtforums pushing over 400 with the stock turbo :eek:


..or at least he ran that for a day when he managed to have his car in one peice and make it to a dyno, lol

Yeah, i was just interested. I love see high horsepower srt's....But we all know how reliable they are :thumbdow:

if there not relible then how does mopar hold there warranty when it comes to there estimate (by me) stage3 tuning that would put u arround the 300+ or sumtin pluss hp? do they void it or do they hold there word and replace everything. I cant see an srt in the 600hp :prayer: range literally thats just insane whats the projected times. but yes id like to know also:
1.whats the most boost the stock fuel system can handle to put out
2.what can the block hold boost wise?
3.whats the projected hp with mopar stage2 with "turbo toys" and for stage three?
4.ive heard the stock axles can handle up to 500 hp, is that true? and if so does that mean i can run slicks with them as long as im under 450hp?
5.Has any one ever ran open down pipe with there srt4? and is it that noticeable that i might not get away with it ran all the way out the back?
6. once again another rumor but how good does this side outlet exhaust look i wanna see it

[Chair-Force]

:thumbup: i was just wondering cause i went and test drove an srt4 lastr week and im going back tonight to do it again.... dont get any ideas lol but HOW MANY PEOPLE HERE HAVE AN SRT4 and what are the pros and cons to them? i know there the best times & power for the money plus my insurance is only gonna be 190 a month so im totally down with getttin one ..... Oooppsss :roll:

shhhh

... just answer my questions and ill check back to see whats up

God damn, your insurance is low for being 19 years old.

Cons of a SRT4 - Its a Dodge?
- Its a Neon?
- Weak axles
- It looks like a Neon
- It features a Rubbermade Edition interior
- It says Neon on it
- People could mistake it for a Neon (females)

Pros of a SRT4 - Its quick out of the box
- It has potential
- Its better than a Lancer

[htheduck]

God damn, your insurance is low for being 19 years old.

Cons of a SRT4 - Its a Dodge?
- Its a Neon?
- Weak axles
- It looks like a Neon
- It features a Rubbermade Edition interior
- It says Neon on it
- People could mistake it for a Neon (females)

Pros of a SRT4 - Its quick out of the box
- It has potential
- Its better than a Lancer
Correction:
It says Neon on it > It does not say Neon anywhere.
People could mistake it for a Neon (females) > Usually females mistaken it for something else, until you tell them it's a Neon.
Weak axles > Strength of these are debatable from what I've heard and people I know.
-H :wiggle:

[SilverTurboRidin]

haha only 03s had weak axles.

And 300HP using mopar devices is way different running 500-600HP on many other items. like upgraded turbo, and everything else.
stage 2 w/ toys
260 hp @ 5200rpm
260 ft/lbs @3600-4800rpms

280HP@ 5200 (using high octane mod)
300Ft/lbs @ 3600-4800

stage 3 is 300hp and 300 ft/lbs

[PSI Chick]

haha only 03s had weak axles.

And 300HP using mopar devices is way different running 500-600HP on many other items. like upgraded turbo, and everything else.
stage 2 w/ toys
260 hp @ 5200rpm
260 ft/lbs @3600-4800rpms

280HP@ 5200 (using high octane mod)
300Ft/lbs @ 3600-4800

stage 3 is 300hp and 300 ft/lbs

s3 w/hom 350hp/365tq

and running 500hp on a bigger turbo and 350 on s3 isn't all that different. if you look at the time slips, most are falling in the 11.4-11.8 range. it doesn't do any good to have 500 hp when you can't use it.

the stock axles don't have a "rating" per sae. it's basically just a run them until they break type of thing. the stock ones are ok for a while, and as long as you don't do anything stupid they're fine.

[Gorilla Unit 33]

God damn, your insurance is low for being 19 years old.

Cons of a SRT4 - Its a Dodge?
- Its a Neon?
- Weak axles
- It looks like a Neon
- It features a Rubbermade Edition interior
- It says Neon on it
- People could mistake it for a Neon (females)

Pros of a SRT4 - Its quick out of the box
- It has potential
- Its better than a Lancer

People please excuse this guys poor excuse for a post hes always dawging my posts, me and my car whenever possibile as u can see above but just for his information my insurance (not that its his or any ones bisnuess at all) is low bvecause of my discounts like drivers ed classes i took while i had my permit over two years ago, alarm system on my car,good grades in school, and class room hours of drivers ed, and some other discounts like a driveing a year without any points.

[Gorilla Unit 33]

(BUMP) still got ?'s that need to be answered

[PSI Chick]

what question still needs to be answered?

[Gorilla Unit 33]

umm nvr mind i got a local guy i talk to everyonce and a while to answer my ?'s but ohh yeah i got one more ...

who wants to take me for a ride? (i need that influence) any offers?

[smoger]

umm nvr mind i got a local guy i talk to everyonce and a while to answer my ?'s but ohh yeah i got one more ...

who wants to take me for a ride? (i need that influence) any offers?


i guess i could but im sure theres closer guys to you, im in northeast philly

as for the reliability comment,.. what me and justin were talking about is that there are a LOT of dyno queen srt-4's floating around with huge horsepower numbers that never seem to make it down the track. amy i think this is what justin meant when he said its a lot different .. i dont think he meant they are different by comparing times.

a mopar stage 3 car seems to have a much better chance of making it down the track in one peice.. it just seems that a lot of people prefer a 500+whp dyno slip to a sub 12-second timeslip(never understood why)

i have had my stage 2 installed for i guess a year now,.. never had to worry about the tuning, never had a problem with it. i havent looked twice at it since the day it was installed. very reliable.

to the guy with all the neon comments.. go read up on neon's success with the SCCA. and please tell me where on my car it says neon.(im not saying it isnt a neon, it absolutely is,.. but it does not say it somewhere.. im just pointing out that you're spewing bs you dont know the first thing about)

edit: and no axle problems at all. that is a factor once you start running drag radials.

[PSI Chick]

you're right that there are a lot of dyno queens around. i never understood that. people just love to say "i have 500hp and do a 12.8@125mph!" great, i don't see how that's such a good thing. personlly i would rather have a 11s car that has less hp but can use the power that it has.

i haven't gotten a good run on my car since s3 went on due to various problems that hopefully by the middle of the week will all be solved, but even so i did a 12.4@113, and that was blowing a vacuum line before the 330' mark. i'm estimating my car at around 375-400 fwhp, i need to get on a dyno to see what it's really doing. but i'd much rather have a 11.8@118 than a 12.5@124.....

[smoger]

you're right that there are a lot of dyno queens around. i never understood that. people just love to say "i have 500hp and do a 12.8@125mph!" great, i don't see how that's such a good thing. personlly i would rather have a 11s car that has less hp but can use the power that it has.

i haven't gotten a good run on my car since s3 went on due to various problems that hopefully by the middle of the week will all be solved, but even so i did a 12.4@113, and that was blowing a vacuum line before the 330' mark. i'm estimating my car at around 375-400 fwhp, i need to get on a dyno to see what it's really doing. but i'd much rather have a 11.8@118 than a 12.5@124.....

soon enough :thumbsup:

Gorilla: one more thing, dont expect to slap a stage 3 on your car and then get a new motor if you blow yours. its true that stage 3 will not and legally CAN NOT void your warranty,.. however, they will NOT repair damage caused by it(nor are they required to), and the parts themselves have no warranty.

now , also keep in mind that many dealers are more likely to look the other way if you bring a car in with mopar mods on it, rather than a full out aftermarket turbo system.(and again, the mopar mods are very reliable to begin with and abnormal wear should not be an issue)

[Raven18940]

Gorilla: one more thing, dont expect to slap a stage 3 on your car and then get a new motor if you blow yours. its true that stage 3 will not and legally CAN NOT void your warranty,.. however, they will NOT repair damage caused by it(nor are they required to), and the parts themselves have no warranty.
I don't understand how they won't fix it, but you still have a warranty. :confused:

[smoger]

I don't understand how they won't fix it, but you still have a warranty. :confused:


why would they fix something you break by modding the car?

ok let me make this clearer...

lets take my car for example.. i have stage 2. i had defective headlight lenses(the only problem ive had). when i went to the dealer i had the stage 2, coilovers, solid motor mounts, cat-back, cai, etc. this was no problem.. obviously the modifications did not cause the headlights to crack.

now,.. if i went in there with the same mods and had something like a blown engine, or broken axles, it would be less likely to get a warranty claim for the sole reason that it is VERY likely a modification, or "competitive driving" caused the problem. now,.. if one really wanted chrysler to pay for something they screwed up themselves, the dealer technically, under the Magnusson Moss act(spelling?), has to be able to prove the modification caused the trouble(or that it was caused while racing, which is outlined in the warranty documentation as not covered)


basically.. the bottom line is.. you mod your car all you want. if your mods **** up the car its coming from your pocket(an honorable person would expect no different anyway)

if something goes wrong that wasnt caused by the mods, you are in the clear.

[SRTREX]

I could care less about 1/4 times. My car if for higway racing with supras. Going to the track just breaks parts, I have been there with many cars. This car has been built with the best of everything, no expense was spared. EVERYTHING on the entire car was changed, engine should be able to handle over 800whp easy, and trans was built to handle alot more. My turbo is a custom switzer turbo prototype for my car wait until you see this monster. It is bigger then a Gt35R with alot better spool. The car should make power up to 8K, and is run with a TEC3 standalone and 2 intank pumps and 1200cc injectors. No one has any of the internal engine parts I am using, they are all custom for this car. The car has been gone for over 4 months now, and hopefully should be done the first week of september. The main things is that it will be a daily driver with full interior, A/c, Power Steering and everything. A ton of $ has gone into this car, and it will be a beast. I will still take it to the track to hopefully put down some records, but the main goal is 10's on pump 94 octane. 600 should be no problem with about 31psi, but I can run 40psi if I want. Car will mainly be run on pump gas at 21psi.

[smoger]

I could care less about 1/4 times. My car if for higway racing with supras. Going to the track just breaks parts, I have been there with many cars. This car has been built with the best of everything, no expense was spared. EVERYTHING on the entire car was changed, engine should be able to handle over 800whp easy, and trans was built to handle alot more. My turbo is a custom switzer turbo prototype for my car wait until you see this monster. It is bigger then a Gt35R with alot better spool. The car should make power up to 8K, and is run with a TEC3 standalone and 2 intank pumps and 1200cc injectors. No one has any of the internal engine parts I am using, they are all custom for this car. The car has been gone for over 4 months now, and hopefully should be done the first week of september. The main things is that it will be a daily driver with full interior, A/c, Power Steering and everything. A ton of $ has gone into this car, and it will be a beast. I will still take it to the track to hopefully put down some records, but the main goal is 10's on pump 94 octane. 600 should be no problem with about 31psi, but I can run 40psi if I want. Car will mainly be run on pump gas at 21psi.


now this i have to see :thumbsup:

[Gorilla Unit 33]

yeah ugh when can we go for a ride in that thing lol... but yeah smogger let me know if ur gonna be at next weeks meet maybe we can go for a ride then. ohh yeah and one more question. if sumtin was to go wrong with it and i was to swapp out the stage 3 instals back to stage one or watever they couldnt prove it then could they ?

[smoger]

yeah ugh when can we go for a ride in that thing lol... but yeah smogger let me know if ur gonna be at next weeks meet maybe we can go for a ride then. ohh yeah and one more question. if sumtin was to go wrong with it and i was to swapp out the stage 3 instals back to stage one or watever they couldnt prove it then could they ?

actually yeah , they may not know specifically that you had stage 3 but they will know you did SOMETHING fishy.

when you order a stage kit they need your mileage since the pcm holds your mileage.. the mileage is also stored in the odometer,.. so by putting the old pcm back in,.. they will see a difference in mileage between the odometer and pcm. its better to just be straight up with the dealer.. just remember, if you cant afford the trouble a mod might cause, dont do it. besides, you probably wont want to take off a turbo manifold, fuel pump, etc etc just to go to the dealer

[Gorilla Unit 33]

gotcha so what about that ride lol you near springfield or ridley?

[yugotdonkey]

I got mine almost a month ago. 05 flame red. This car is great. The aftermarket is in full swing right now and there's alot of very affordable performance to be had. Dodge did something right with this car. It's ****ing awesome. My only complaints are the skinny tires (still handle great) and the wide turning radius. I say go for the 04-05s, bigger injectors and the limited slip is so good for remedying fwd problems.

Here's a vid of my side exit exhuast on the dude i bought it from's car.

http://njsr.org/pics/displayimage.php?pos=-46892

www.SRTforums.com should be your new best friend if you buy this car.

[Gorilla Unit 33]

im already on srtforums.com i join yesterday. im not sure if im diggin the side mount exhaust. i think i much rather run straight open pipe from the turbo out the back

[htheduck]

im already on srtforums.com i join yesterday. im not sure if im diggin the side mount exhaust. i think i much rather run straight open pipe from the turbo out the back
It's a matter of YOUR preferrence of course-the side exit just saves a few bends. The rear exit needs to clear the rear suspension.
-H :wiggle:

[smoger]

gotcha so what about that ride lol you near springfield or ridley?

like i said im in northeast philly

[Gorilla Unit 33]

no prob ill make it back up to the town i grew up in, in a couple weeks maybe just meet at the absolute meet next week