11.4 on low boost, no intercooler

[Buster]

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1341149

Read it and weep. This car is sooo sick. You can't even tell its more than an L.

[EvlEgl]

Pete, Do It,

Do it Now

[CHAOS]

i think e85 and meth/water has alot to do with that being safe lol

[Gorilla Unit 33]

yeah 22psi = low boost hahaha thats sick

[Ryza24]

haha thats pretty impressive especially at 22psi (low boost) <-- hahha 8-10 is low boost comme on!

[malloyboy1]

id like to know what high boost is to them if 22 is low

[underpressure02]

I would consider 22psi on a 35 high boost.

[TROLL]

my guess is they'll run maybe like 26 lbs on the stock block, which is aggressive but doable, especially if its a shop that doesnt mind a rebuild after a while.
what i think is strange is why did they tune the car for no ic when they are going to add one and have to retune? waste of time imo.

[Buster]

bragging rights i guess

[zerioustt]

my guess is they'll run maybe like 26 lbs on the stock block, which is aggressive but doable, especially if its a shop that doesnt mind a rebuild after a while.
what i think is strange is why did they tune the car for no ic when they are going to add one and have to retune? waste of time imo.


driveabitlity and breaking the motor in is my guess, but breaking motors in is for chicks:-p..except jess.

[teh DIRT]

wow, see....


ugh
-pete

[jc8889]

22psi is considered low on a GT35.

[TROLL]

ha i guess it depends on if you ask the honda guy, the subaru guy, or the dsm guy

[underpressure02]

22psi is considered low on a GT35.

I would like to see what you consider high boost on a gt35?

[Dave]

ha i guess it depends on if you ask the honda guy, the subaru guy, or the dsm guy

or the turbododge guy, our community makes a habit out of boosting past the efficiency map. 30 psi on a t-3 is fairly common over there ;)

[RyanG]

there is no high boost, or low boost.. its all a matter of IF the motor will hold up to it :)


remember, octane is a limiting factor. But since that thing is running that mix........ I could see about 25-28 psi on it. octane isnt a problem with them, just the internals

[jkjersey]

Wow impressive setup. I may consider them tuning my ride when I'm ready to.
I also see the shop tunes Power FC too which is what I'm leaning towards vs the Ecutek option.

I just moved to philly where they have a shell gas station that sells E-85. My only gripe is what if I'm traveling out of state with the car... how readily avaliable is it? I'll guess I'll have to google to see if there is a directory for E-85 stations...

I really need to upgrade my turbo to take full advantage of this engine. I'm thinking FPGreen.

[SoStock92]

Truth is they don't have to retune because they pulled a quick one on you guys.

Water/meth injection is equivalent to very very good intercooling.

My intake temps go below ambient when spraying the water/meth

[Nick 95 6sp]

^ correct ...another example, when you see the alcohol funny cars run the outer surface of the intake actually ices up from the "chemical intercooling"

I'm looking into the compatibility of my fuel system components with E85; and if it is, or when I swap out what is needed, I'm heading down to that Shell station at 12th & Vine. I'm not sure but I think they might be charging like $3.05/gal which bugs me since I keep hearing that other E85 stations are selling the stuff for under $2.20/gal. But $3 is still better than $8 or $11 for racegas.

[peteyturbo]

I was about to say the same thing..I would not expect much of a gain at all with an intercooler, especially with methanols cooling properties over watr,ect.Truth is they don't have to retune because they pulled a quick one on you guys.

Water/meth injection is equivalent to very very good intercooling.

My intake temps go below ambient when spraying the water/meth

[PA Z06]

Very cool, any pics of car

[OptiCon]

Trapping 121 in a light E85 car is nothing new.
But what's really cool is how stealth he was able to keep that car despite the mods.

[05GT]

It's already been said in here a few times, but it cracks me up to think that 22psi is low boost. It always amazes me the difference between domestic and import cars when referring to boost and what is a high amount.

[OptiCon]

It has nothing to do with the country of origin.
It's common sense actually. 1.9 liter of air @ 9psi is considerably less volume than 4.6 liters of air at the same pressure.
That and an ethanol car is MUCH less prone to detonation and can run MUCH higher pressures.
Although E85's lower A/F ratio dictates that for a massive boost increase, you will need an even more massive fuel increase.

[05GT]

It has nothing to do with the country of origin.
It's common sense actually. 1.9 liter of air @ 9psi is considerably less volume than 4.6 liters of air at the same pressure.
That and an ethanol car is MUCH less prone to detonation and can run MUCH higher pressures.
Although E85's lower A/F ratio dictates that for a massive boost increase, you will need an even more massive fuel increase.

I never stated that it had to do with the country of origin.

I was making a comparison between domestic and import in the sense of cars, I could car less where the actual car came from thats not what I meant. How else would I have put it? Domestic vs small engine cars?

And yes, I know the #s and I know it would be less air, I'm aware of that. Still doesn't change my statement that I find it amazing how much some of the import guys run and still consider low boost.

[Scapegoat]

wow... that is killer

[S4toSTI]

As bryan stated i think what is low or high boost depends on the car.

[NJslvrtypes]

As bryan stated i think what is low or high boost depends on the car.

very very impressive times but as stated before 22lbs on any car w/ a 35R is not too low of boost. also this is e85 w/ injection which def. explains the times and lack of intercooler.

there is no way he is going to see much more than 30psi out of a 35R even w/ the .82AR exhaust housing. it is going to run way out of its compressor map/efficiency and fall on its face in the low 30s if not before that depending on his engine/head mods specifically.

none the less impressive driving skills and he is prob. referring to low boost as in he hasn't maxed the turbo out. def an easy low 10 car w/ intercooler and maxing out the 35R. pretty crazy!