SpoolinDSM's POS DSM. Updated 3/18/09

[SpoolinDSM]

Well, let's see, after searching about 6 months for a dsm for sale in my area I came across this one on ebay. It was in the Philly area, and it was pretty cheap, except for the fact it had 183,XXX miles on it. I talked to the guy and found out he was staying at his moms house for the weekend which was only 10 minutes from my house, so I really could'nt pass this up. Well when I got it, it had decent amount of work done to it but not anything special. I bought the car for $4,250 and it had a 16g, dnp manifold, wheels, exhaust, intake, clutch, flywheel, fmic, and a short shifter. So I'm thinking, ok theres half the mods I was going to do, already out of the way for me... But I wasnt going to settle for a low 14 high 13 second car.

First day I brought it home.


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First I had to replace gaskets and such. Which led me to find more problems. (with any dsm, when you go to fix one thing you always find something else wrong)...
Well when I was replacing the exhaust manifold gasket and studs, I found that the manifold to turbine gasket was busted, and the turbine housing was cracked and the wastegate flapper only covered about 65% of the port.

ew dirty
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/soufeastpenn/manifold_005.jpg
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So after replacing the studs, and gaskets, I orded a monster bullseye turbing housing.

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Now after putting that on, I come to find the wastegate actuator doesn't line up, and doesn't function right either. So I said F it, and decided to go external. So I plasma cut out the flaper, and welded the lever hole shut. Then I ordered an FP o2 sensor housing and Tial 40mm wastegate. Also since the exhaust manifold looked like ass I sand blasted it and repainted it.

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Now I'm thinking, hmm I went external, and now have a monster turbine housing, I need to push out more exhaust. So I ordered some Brian Crower 272 cams.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/soufeastpenn/DSC_0004.jpg

And to make up for the running lean (as all 4g63's do) I ordered an safcII

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/soufeastpenn/things_003.jpg

Also I'm going to need a MBC and a boost gauge.

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Also I figured I would need to let the turbo cool a bit so I got a Blitz FATT, which I now figured out wont work with my car since I have a viper alarm.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/soufeastpenn/Rafting110.jpg

Then since it was winter I decided to do a little cleaning.

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[Sberk06]

very nice DSM

[SpoolinDSM]

I also sand-blasted the UICP and repainted it cause it look like ass.

But this is where I screwed up big time.... I decided to do a fuse box relocation since it was winter and it would be sitting for a while.
And now that everything is back on the car and ready to go, the car wont start, only about half the wires have power, and some of the ones without power dont even have power from where I originaly cut them. WTF?

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Now I dont even know what to do, it's been down for almost a year now, and from the looks of this fuse box relocation mess, it wont be running anytime soon, uless one of you guys is an electrical genius and wants to help lol

But now the car is just sitting waiting to be fired up... but it wont happen any time soon =(


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Not bad for a 16 year old kid though eh? :wink:

[SpoolinDSM]

I also recently got an AFPR with -8AN lines and fittings and a Walboro 255 fp.

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[silver05bullet]

i dont see why you would want to relocate the fusebox, take all the wires off again and re splice them maybe you messed up connecting them together

[Sberk06]

that car is gonna blow up.. take off thsoe wires and put it back how it was!

[SpoolinDSM]

I also bought an 2gb eclipse front bumper off some guy on dsmtalk for $125, and... it never arrived, also somehow I sent the money twice so I got gipped for $250....

Oh and I picked up a new VC yesterday, already shaved except for DOHC 16 valve, but it does need to be freshly powdercoated. Sorry for the crappy pics, my dad broke the D1x so I'm stuck with a little pos, and the flash was on.


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[SpoolinDSM]

very nice DSM

Thanks, you don't understand how bad I want to drive it, I got it when I was 15 so I didn't have my permit, and it's been down since before I got my permit, now I have my liscense and it's still down.

[SpoolinDSM]

that car is gonna blow up.. take off thsoe wires and put it back how it was!

You know what, I think I am actually about to go start working on that, thanks.

[Sberk06]

seriously, pay someone on here to get that fuse box back how it used to be.. most people on here will give a helping hand out even if its only for a few bucks man.. if i knew electricity **** like that i would help, but honestly thats something i wouldnt mess with

[Sberk06]

You know what, I think I am actually about to go start working on that, thanks.

the only reason i say that is because there is no gain at all with that... its only a big risk.

[SpoolinDSM]

seriously, pay someone on here to get that fuse box back how it used to be.. most people on here will give a helping hand out even if its only for a few bucks man.. if i knew electricity **** like that i would help, but honestly thats something i wouldnt mess with

Yea that's why I hate myself for doing it, I don't even know what gave me the idea in the first place...

[SpoolinDSM]

the only reason i say that is because there is no gain at all with that... its only a big risk.

Yea I know, that's kinda why I feel like a dumbass for doint it, and that is exactly why I'm going outside right now and starting to cut and label again.

[turbo4g63]

i would have never done that....electrical wiring is not my strong point....other than the f'd up fuse box you've got a nice car...try to get it fixed and bring it to the bbq

[SpoolinDSM]

Update time! I put the fuse box back a while ago, but it still isn't ready to fire up, cause the stock oil return line isnt fitting up, so i got to seperate peices and I'm connecting them with a high temp silicon hose, but heres the thing, all my friends like to go in my garage and **** around with things, so now I lost one of the bolts, so I need one of those, and I need new studs for my EWG cause the ones I bought, 2 are only long enough, the other two were too short, so I bought to more that were long enough, and I was working on my car and my friends were over, and I go into the garage to grab them, and they are missing too, so I still need studs :mad: And it could really use some fresh gas. Other than that I just need to finish fabing up my exhaust and it should be good to go.

Right now I am currently putting new rotors and pads on the car, and I am going to get it repainted in the near future (after it gets running)

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My sexy wheels :mrgreen:

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The back left wheel was so torqued down it was fcking rediculous, I broke one key and bent another, but I still got it off

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For sh*ts and giggles

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[Kevin]

Damn man that car looks like it has been a nightmare for you. Especially because it looks like you haven't had the time to drive it a lot. If you ever need any DSM help just send me a PM or something. I'll come up there at help you out for fun. Theres like no DSM people anywhere close to me that are worth associating with (mostly 420a guys). haha

If you can get everything back together good and correctly then I think you'll love that car.

[97TurboDSM]

car should be a beast when you get it on the road...i think i remember seeing a ruse box relocation tech article on dsmtuners. i'll see if i can find it for you, might help with the mess of wires you have. otherwise, badass dsm

EDIT: couldnt find it. i'm sure someone over there has done it before. i suggest a quick search for some answers. good luck

[stover]

sweet ride man... u and me both have the same idea but i guess u have more funds than me seeing as how im the same age but i cant afford anything but my POS plymouth breeze..

[SpoolinDSM]

Damn man that car looks like it has been a nightmare for you. Especially because it looks like you haven't had the time to drive it a lot. If you ever need any DSM help just send me a PM or something. I'll come up there at help you out for fun. Theres like no DSM people anywhere close to me that are worth associating with (mostly 420a guys). haha

If you can get everything back together good and correctly then I think you'll love that car.

lol thanks man, I'll shoot you a pm if I ever find myself in a situation that i cant handle or am dumbfounded lol


car should be a beast when you get it on the road...i think i remember seeing a ruse box relocation tech article on dsmtuners. i'll see if i can find it for you, might help with the mess of wires you have. otherwise, badass dsm

EDIT: couldnt find it. i'm sure someone over there has done it before. i suggest a quick search for some answers. good luck

Thanks atleast you tried, thanks again!

[DSMTJ]

nice build thread dude, i can't wait to see the car running haha

[SpoolinDSM]

nice build thread dude, i can't wait to see the car running haha

Thanks!

Did you race a white mustang gt last night? My friend told me he raced a black z06 down 202 and you were the first one to come to mind lol

[Hando567]

you need to hurry up and get this thing running. lol

[enigma]

Damn man that car looks like it has been a nightmare for you. Especially because it looks like you haven't had the time to drive it a lot. If you ever need any DSM help just send me a PM or something. I'll come up there at help you out for fun. Theres like no DSM people anywhere close to me that are worth associating with (mostly 420a guys). haha

If you can get everything back together good and correctly then I think you'll love that car.


WTF man!!! :mrgreen:

[Kevin]

WTF man!!! :mrgreen:

haha you need help?

And I might also add that I have OCD when it comes to dirty workplaces.
I will seriously clean your garage without even noticing what I'm doin'.

If you need help or just want a clean garage then try and hit me up before I get knee surgery (looks like the day before thanksgiving).

[enigma]

No dangnammnit, i have myself a properly boosted 4G63T thank-you-very-much.:)

[redg2]

g/l with getting it runnin dude

[SpoolinDSM]

got rid of the rusty sh*ts lol

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[Hando567]

you whats up ken, when you gonna have this **** back together? lol

[Kevin]

Nice what kinds are those?

[SpoolinDSM]

Nice what kinds are those?

they are just some OEM replacements by some company called "best brakes" they have a two year warrenty so... lol

I wanted cross drilled rotors but i figured i would just save some money and get these.

[assault187]

How long untill this thing is back on the road? whats holding you back at this point? If you are still fighting with the wire problem I'll lend a hand ...let me know

[Kevin]

What kind of tubular manifold is that? DNP?

[SpoolinDSM]

What kind of tubular manifold is that? DNP?

yea dnp...

and assault, right now i just need to go to the mitsu dealer and get a bolt for my oil line so i can get oil in it. And I need a new battery, hopefully thats all...

[SpoolinDSM]

ok so yesterday my new powerstop brake pads came in

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/soufeastpenn/100_9408.jpg

and today the 12" slimline fan came in...

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/soufeastpenn/100_9403.jpg


i sure missed the feeling of presents from UPS on my doorstep lol

[Kevin]

lol What's up with the dates on those pics?

[SpoolinDSM]

lol What's up with the dates on those pics?

its an old ass digital camera, i never set the date on it lol

[turbo4g63]

so is this car ever gonna run or what?

[Kevin]

So, Fooks. It's been almost 2 months. WTF IS GOING ON WITH THIS CAR?!


lol I'll buy it.

[SpoolinDSM]

UPDATE B1TCHES!! Well after 4 hours of hard labor at my friends shop we finally got it running, after almost TWO YEARS!!! Im so excited, you guys have no idea! We fabbed up the exhaust, fabbed up the oil return line, and fabbed up a bracket to remount the fuse box. The only thing left to do is to fix my headlight, put new gas in it, new plugs, seafoam it, and get the b*tch inspected!!!

vids will be up tomorrow hopefully

[nissan240syan]

One more day man !!!!!!! the car sounds INSANE

[SpoolinDSM]

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/soufeastpenn/Photo-0180.jpg

thanks art! You gonna be there tomorrow again?

[Kevin]

lol a month + after my post its running. wooooo :rock:

[Kevin]

We gotta meet up, I wanna see this thing.

[turbo4g63]

Did i read on dsmtalk that you had it running, then it blew a HG

[Hando567]

probably, because he did have it running, then he blew his HG. lol. He came to my house the day he got it running, then a few hours later i call him up to see if hes gonna be at a meet and he said he blew the HG. I found it amusing, but it sucks at the same time. It was mean when i saw it though.

[vipauto]

good mods im sure it pulls

[Kevin]

LOL woww

[blackbichGSX]

Clean car! I hope you get this thing running again. Don't know if you have done a HG before, but it is not all that difficult to do if you have the tools. Mine has been down for 2 years and I can't wait to get it running again.

[Willdue]

Nice build thread, good to see someone put so much effort into it. I hope it turns out well!

[SpoolinDSM]

Yeah, I finally got the car running last month, but it overheated really bad, and the headgasket went, so I had the head shaved and rebuilt while it was out, I got a new thermostat and all new gaskets for the head and manifolds and such. It continued to over heat, so I knew it had to be an air pocket in the coolant lines, so I took it to work and sucked the b*tch out (with the proper tool not my mouth). But anyway, I got bored one day so we took the head off again and took a Micrometer to the cylinders, my number three cylinder is out by .78, so now I'm dropping the motor, getting it bored out, bigger pistons, new bearings, seals, freeze plugs, the whole nine yards. So my next update will be after that.

1. beaing hauled to my friends shop ANR customs.
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2. Final product
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3. Lookin purty
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4. The head after being shaved.
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5. With the head off
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6.
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7. One more of her
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And here is the link to the video of her running

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG09_EOxuS8

[Kevin]

Ouch. I give you props for still putting up with this cars bull****.

Oh and venting tsk tsk :rolleyes:

[SpoolinDSM]

lol yea I know, but if I want to recirculate I would either have to fab something or buy a new intake so... idk, and the car doesnt stutter or backfire after shifts so it seems to be doing fine with venting (I hope lol)

[Kevin]

lol yea I know, but if I want to recirculate I would either have to fab something or buy a new intake so... idk, and the car doesnt stutter or backfire after shifts so it seems to be doing fine with venting (I hope lol)

haha they make recirc adapters. Someone use to sell them on tuners. It looked like just a piece of copper pipe that reduces. If that helps lol

[assault187]

So it took 2 years to get this thing to run again and now its once again in peices.... Sucks...

While your rebuilding ...get a GM maf or a recirc BOV

[SpendOne]

lol yea I know, but if I want to recirculate I would either have to fab something or buy a new intake so... idk, and the car doesnt stutter or backfire after shifts so it seems to be doing fine with venting (I hope lol)

I bet it plays a part of that surge you got going on.

[Kevin]

I bet it plays a part of that surge you got going on.

lol I thought he had 292's in there or something lmfao

[SpoolinDSM]

Nope, it's got 272's but that wasnt idle, he was playing with the throttle to keep it running cause it wouldnt idle at first.

[SpoolinDSM]

It`s that time again b*tches!!

ARP Rod bolts and Head studs

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/soufeastpenn/Photo-0084-1.jpg

ACL Tri-metal race main and rod bearings

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/soufeastpenn/Photo-0086-1.jpg

Balance shaft eliminator kit

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/soufeastpenn/Photo-00851.jpg

Pistons and rods hopefully coming soon!

sorry for the crappy cell phone pics btw...

[SpoolinDSM]

Oh, and I also got a new timing belt, balance shaft pulley belt, oil pump, freeze plugs, ands a bunch of seals and gaskets, but they werent worth taking pictures of...

[SpoolinDSM]

Another update for you fools! Getting close...

Block painted after being heat tanked

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Eagle H-beams

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/soufeastpenn/Photo-0149.jpg

Wiseco Pistons

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/soufeastpenn/Photo-0150.jpg

[Kevin]

Put it together, NOW

[turbo4g63]

You should also look into some sort of a replacement for that strut tower...holy **** that isn't safe

[SpoolinDSM]

Put it together, NOW

The crank just got sent out today to the machine shop to get cut, it should be done by next monday then Im gonna start slapping her back together :supz:

[SpoolinDSM]

You should also look into some sort of a replacement for that strut tower...holy **** that isn't safe

Thats all getting patched up, my friends dad does restoration crap like that he is gonna teach me how to do it.

[Kevin]

Thats all getting patched up, my friends dad does restoration crap like that he is gonna teach me how to do it.

Mine kinda looked the same. Shouldn't be hard at all. Just coat it nicely.

[SpoolinDSM]

Mine kinda looked the same. Shouldn't be hard at all. Just coat it nicely.

I have never done any body work, so hopefully I dont f*ck anything up :lol:

[SpoolinDSM]

Update Mother F**kers!!!

Picking up this 20g turbo tonight!!

Next to a t25
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/soufeastpenn/20g001.jpg
next to a 35r
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http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/soufeastpenn/turbo1.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/soufeastpenn/turbo4.jpg


Buschur racing stage 1 head with crower springs/retainers. 1mm over ss valves with swirl polish finish, bronze valve guides....
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/soufeastpenn/in20port.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/soufeastpenn/intake.jpg


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More new stuff to come!

[SpoolinDSM]

New bumper and new front mount

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/soufeastpenn/Photo0051.jpg

compared to my old front mount
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crower springs and retainers
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http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/soufeastpenn/Photo0105.jpg

[Kevin]

lol bi-yearly update from f0o0o0oks

[SpoolinDSM]

Hahaha it was a blue moon tonight...

[SpoolinDSM]

I just need to get the crank cut and the block bored and the engine is ready to go back together.

[Kevin]

Sounds expensive :mrgreen:

[SpoolinDSM]

Took out a loan throught school :eek:

[Kevin]

Took out a loan throught school :eek:

**** it. The worlds supposed to end in a few years anyway lol

[Mitsu3kgt]

You should throw in the 35r

[dufflebagboyz]

very nice dsm. but why eclipse front =\

[SpoolinDSM]

very nice dsm. but why eclipse front =\

:lol: Well I kinda always liked the way talons looked with the eclipse bumper, but I would prefer a 97 talon bumper, wanna give me yours? :-p
Also I got the eclipse bumper for free, so I'm not complaining.

[SpoolinDSM]

**** it. The worlds supposed to end in a few years anyway lol

Hahaha exactly kev, let's all just run wild, rape our libraries and burn the women!!!! Wait that doesn't sound right... :mrgreen:

[DsmRob]

Did you get the 20g from gsx-lex?

[Kevin]

Hahaha exactly kev, let's all just run wild, rape our libraries and burn the women!!!! Wait that doesn't sound right... :mrgreen:

hahahaha WOOOOOOOOOOO!

[SpoolinDSM]

Did you get the 20g from gsx-lex?

Yezzir!

[DsmRob]

Yezzir!

I thought so, that is a sick turbo for a nice price, good luck w/ it.