tinting laws suck

[Crzyguy972]

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/443776 something like this is illegal right

[xEJ20x]

Is that tint or gloss painted windows? :roll:

[THE TOOTH]

In PA it is.

[Crzyguy972]

in pa wtf do they let u do the rear 8 and front and back 70 that would look so ****ing dumb.

[THE TOOTH]

yeah it does.

[Crzyguy972]

they should make a tint law if you do tint then you have to consent when a cop pulls you over thats the only reason why they dont wnat tint so cops can see in your car

[THE TOOTH]

If you can get a doctor to write you a note that you have light senistivity problems, you can go as dark as you want.

[99SL2_Modder]

in pa wtf do they let u do the rear 8 and front and back 70 that would look so *no cursing!* dumb.

Front 2 untinted, back 3 as dark as you want, in PA. I think it's the same in Joisey.

[Crzyguy972]

no we got this **** 70 front and back 8 rear http://www.pixelelement.com/gif/tint_laws.jpg

[THE TOOTH]

No, it's 70% front, 70% back, 70% rear(no longer 8%). Apperently it has changed since I looked last. Here's the link.http://www.gilafilms.com/auto/car_tint_laws.html

[Crzyguy972]

WTF THATS THE HIGHEST IN THE NATION, what does 70% even look like a window is that what came stock with our 6s tooth

[THE TOOTH]

I haven't gotten I light meter on it, but it's pretty damn close. I hate this state for that.

[99SL2_Modder]

You're all wrong with PA tint. I just got pulled over not 2 weeks ago and got lectured on the laws, along with a speeding ticket and a too-dark-tint ticket (but not a fix-it)

News flash: Sites don't frequently update with facts!

70% on the front 2, none in the windshield, and the back 3 (or 5 if you have triangles) can be as dark as you want.

[Crzyguy972]

from the attorney generals website http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/press/cons_advis/July02.cfm all windows have to be 70% or less

[boneheadperformance]

There are so many different percentages that people say are legal and aren't legal. It all depends on how dark your interior is too. If you have black interior and do 50%, it might look the same as doing 35% on tan interior. I have had 35% all the way around and not had a problem. Had 20% all the way around and got pulled over. To me a nice shade of tint is 35%. You take a chance of getting pulled over with any tint. It all depends on how you drive or being at the wrong place at the wrong time. If you drive within the speed limits cops will not really hassle you.

From when I remember (years ago), the tint laws all started when a Philadelphia cop pulled someone over with dark tint for speeding and as he stood outside the car waiting for the "bad guy" to roll down his window he was shot. The cop didn't even know that he had a gun pointed at him until the window was rolled down. This is when laws started getting real strict on tint. Cops were getting nervous about pulling people over that they could not see.

[99SL2_Modder]

from the attorney generals website http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/press/cons_advis/July02.cfm all windows have to be 70% or less

Well, then it's wrong. A cop, who is the one pulling you over, is the one you should listen to. He said all PA cops follow the same general rule. The written law really doesn't matter, since it's the people that interpret it that are going to be stopping you.

There are so many different percentages that people say are legal and aren't legal. It all depends on how dark your interior is too. If you have black interior and do 50%, it might look the same as doing 35% on tan interior. I have had 35% all the way around and not had a problem. Had 20% all the way around and got pulled over. To me a nice shade of tint is 35%. You take a chance of getting pulled over with any tint. It all depends on how you drive or being at the wrong place at the wrong time. If you drive within the speed limits cops will not really hassle you.

Right. It was the fact that he already had to pull me over that he busted out the tint meter.

[AoD]

speaking of tinting, does anyone know of a website that emulates tint percentages?

n/m, here's one

http://www.autowindowtintings.com//tintDemo.ihtml

nothing legal in PA :(

[AoD]

Official Law:

TABLE X—ACCEPTABLE LIGHT TRANSMITTANCE LEVELS
FOR VEHICLE GLAZING
All light transmittance levels listed below assume a 3% accuracy (±3%).



Front Side Rear Side
Vehicle Type Windshield Windows/Wings Windows/Wings Rear Window
Pre-1998 Passenger Cars 70% 70% 70% VESC-20*
1998 & Newer Passenger Cars 70% 70% 70% 70%
Trucks & Multi-Purpose
Passenger Vehicles 70% 70% No Requirement No Requirement
Medium/Heavy Trucks & Buses 70% 70% No Requirement No Requirement
All Other Vehicles 70% 70% No Requirement No Requirement


*A label, permanently installed between the sun screening device or other material and the glazing to which it is applied, shall contain the name of the device or material manufacturer or a registration number and the statement, ‘‘Complies with VESC-20.’’



Authority

The provisions of this Table X issued under the Vehicle Code, 75 Pa.C.S. § § 4103, 4521, 4524 and 6103.



Source

The provisions of this Table X adopted September 27, 1996, effective September 28, 1996, 26 Pa.B. 4640.



This is the end all be all of bickering because this is the documented law. Weather it's up to those who interpret it or not, doesn't matter. The police do not interpret the law, the courts do. The police enforce it. If the officer doesn't know what he's really talking about, you're still accountable to know the law.

beef? http://www.pacode.com/secure/data/067/chapter175/chap175toc.html

read it. Know when to stick it to the po-po's, cause if they try to nail you on something, hand them the book and tell them to "learn the laws asshole" when your win your court battle.


;) No beef with anyone, just bickering sucks.

[piratius]

In Virginia it's 50% front/side and 35% back/sides & back.

I think mine's a 35% sides and 25% back, on a black car with a light grey interior, it looks a lot lighter than it is. A local guy with a mustang did the same combination - black car, 35% front 25% back, but with a black leather interior, looks 5x darker than mine. Sucks, but at least I doubt I'll get pulled over for just that :)

~Brad

[2point4DSM]

Know when to stick it to the po-po's, cause if they try to nail you on something, hand them the book and tell them to "learn the laws *no cursing!*"
;)

Don't piss the cop off! If he thinks he knows the law then the guy that he just pulled over has no right trying to teach him. Wait till you get to court to do that....

[AoD]

Know when to stick it to the po-po's, cause if they try to nail you on something, hand them the book and tell them to "learn the laws *no cursing!*"
;)

Don't piss the cop off! If he thinks he knows the law then the guy that he just pulled over has no right trying to teach him. Wait till you get to court to do that....

yeah thats what I meant, i guess I was really tired and neglected that fast lol :partyman:

[Gorilla Unit 33]

personally i got 15% all the way arround my car my buddies have 5% all the way arround and none of us ever got pulled over :banana: but i was told once from a friend who is a cop in philly that anything more then 20% they will get you for

[AoD]

personally i got 15% all the way arround my car my buddies have 5% all the way arround and none of us ever got pulled over :banana: but i was told once from a friend who is a cop in philly that anything more then 20% they will get you for

is that 20% light transmission or 20% tint (80% light transmission)

[ZQ8Rado]

prolly 20% tint, i have 20% all around with dark interior and never had any problem but i also have a truck and cops dont bother with us trucks. i was driving home on new falls rd one night around 1:30 A.M. and i was behind a cop that was following a ford probe. they drive by acme and this guy in an old dodge pick-up pulls out from the bar swerving in the middle of the road and the cop drove right past the truck as if he was too busy running the tags on the probe. a little off topic but true.