Thinking of Buying a 5.0

[99ElectronBlueCivicSi]

my friends dad is selling a 1992 Mustang LX 5.0 it has 81k miles its real nice outside i jus want to know i dont know much about mustangs it has a few mods like cervinis front bumper and hood has the ram air kit for the cervinis hood, and has exhaust on it and underdrive pullies i just want some advice from the muscle car guys on here if u think its worth it he only wants $4500 for it

Heres a link for some pics
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/337677

[S4toSTI]

its a stick and it looks clean there is alot of potential for those cars... straight line potential that is :lol: . Personally i think it would be a cool toy but not for everyday and for one fo those 82k is not so bad. PLus there are tons of parts for those cars and you could spray them to high heaven there are even cheapish turbo kits out for them now.

[xEJ20x]

The question is can he afford the gas that a 5.0 will bring as a daily driver.

[S4toSTI]

The question is can he afford the gas that a 5.0 will bring as a daily driver.
Oh if this is gonnabe a daily driver you will shoot yourself i don't know if u like turning but i do lol... jk... but seriously as a daily drive a 5 liter modded will not be fun tlak about nto wanting to go out when it rains.

[FeeJ]

Would have to agree that its no DD, my buddy just sold his '92 S/C 5.0 last month, before he put the S/C on it, it was still damned quick

These cars are pretty popular so it'll be really easy to find parts for it.
I dont think as many people will try to break in or steal it like a honda.

I'd get it if I was in your position and had 5k for a car

[Crzyguy972]

Renn, is that ears 5.0

[99ElectronBlueCivicSi]

Renn, is that ears 5.0

yea it is his dad needs to get rid of it so i figured id check it out

[Nitro]

Forged pistons = great motor for nitrous!!!!! *Me pitches tent thinking of spraying a 300 shot on a 5.0 on stock internals, lol.

[1988 Olds]

I don't know if you could handle the power but it seems like a good deal. They get pretty decent mileage if you don't beat on them. Not going to be as good as your Si but.

[WhiteFiveO]

to bad its not forged internals forged internals only came in 88 and 89 as for the car looks pretty pricey to me also looks like it has 180k miles on it by the way the motor looks. up to you tho 5.0 motors run forever my buddy had one with 300k miles still ran great if you got any ?s let me know i know a decent amount about our cars

[2point4DSM]

They get pretty decent mileage if you don't beat on them.

I'm thinking decent is 17-20 city and anything better than 25mpg highway.

[HickRocket1258]

I have an '02 GT that isn't very pleasant on gas and its an auto. I only get 230 on a tank when I don't beat on it. Don't expect much from it even if it's a different engine than the 4.6. I'm almost considering getting rid of it because of the gas prices.

[WhiteFiveO]

wow thats very ****ty gas milage on your 02 i have an 89 5.0 with sum mods along with 373 gears and i still get 200 miles to the tank even when i beat on it all day long

[piratius]

I got 220-250 miles to a tank, averaging 18-20 mpg in "normal" driving, which is pretty spirited.

And that's in my v6.

We're car enthusiats. What do we want to talk about, a car that has almost limitless potential for power (5.0 = uberaftermarket), or complain about fuel economy? I'm proud to fill up with 93 for my turbostang, price be damned.

This sounds corny as hell, but honestly, having driven lots of cars...I liked my old cars, they were nice, some even drove nicer, and more pleasantly than the mustang, and I liked certain things about them more, but the stang has some...something to it that just makes it different than any other car. The shifter is probably heavy compared to your car, but it feels solid and good when you slam it into second and keep the tires smoking. The seats aren't going to be as comfortable as in your SI, but hell, they keep you from ending up with a mouthfull of trunk, and isn't that their purpose? The motor has twice as many cylinders, and more than twice the displacement which is heavy as hell...but...you can climb a hill at 1000rpm in fifth gear without downshifting.

The point I'm trying to make is that it'll be totally different. Ask him if you can drive it. You'll find it different in almost EVERY way from your SI.

The 5.0 is like a block of clay, you can turn it into anything you want. Want a high-HP dragster? It's your platform. Want a dependable quick Daily Driver? it's your platform. Want to mod the suspension and autocross? Well, it might not be the ideal platform, but it's helluva lot of fun and doable!!

I've done all the above with my car. Albeit it's a bit newer, and a sixer (silly v8's!), but it's still a car like none other I've ever driven or ridden in. My old '87 Tempo was a good cruiser. My Probe GT would out-handle most any other car I ever decided to put it up against. My dad's dunebuggy looked better than anything else and gets more attention. But the mustang is a mustang. Hate on me for saying it, but it has its own identity and charisma, and once owning one, you'll understand what people talk about, and realize why it's the last pony car.

[/patronizing speech]

~Brad

[Nitro]

to bad its not forged internals forged internals only came in 88 and 89 as for the car looks pretty pricey to me also looks like it has 180k miles on it by the way the motor looks. up to you tho 5.0 motors run forever my buddy had one with 300k miles still ran great if you got any ?s let me know i know a decent amount about our cars

Bummer. Tent unpitched then........

[Bizee]

300 shot, stock internals :thumbdow: better bring your tow truck and fire extinguisher

[WhiteFiveO]

Haha right on bizee guess someone should do some reading on 5.0s b4 they talk

[SilverTurboRidin]

i seen people running 125 shots on stock internals..

but 300 is a little crazy...must be one factory freak

[WhiteFiveO]

anything over 100 shot i wouldnt do, and i would only on a 88 or 89 cuz of the forged internals

[Nitro]

Wow, Ford motors must not be as well built as my little economy car 4 cylinder crapper then. I'm spraying 100 shot for about 2 years now on bone stock motor. I would figure a V8 with 302 cubic inches of displacement should be able to handle 200 hp of juice on a cast bottom, and 300 with forged. I know guys running the same motor I do but with forged con rods and pistons (still the stock crank though) running 150 shot with no probs.

[WhiteFiveO]

yea i can spray 100 shot for 2 yrs without a problem to whats your point?

[2point4DSM]

Maybe he is saying it isn't worth it for him to upgrade to a ford 5.0 if he can't spray 300 into it....

Me, I'd rather just turn up the boost.

[Nitro]

yea i can spray 100 shot for 2 yrs without a problem to whats your point?
My point is that I'm spraying that size shot on a little 4 cylinder with less than half of the displacement of your 5.0, so the 5.0 should be able to take at least 200 even with a cast bottom end like mine, or it's garbage.

[2point4DSM]

so the 5.0 should be able to take at least 200 even with a cast bottom end like mine, or it's garbage.

Them sounds like fighting words to me. We need to pick a time and place right now so you guys can race and settle this once and for all....

[the mike]

You could buy it and be different with it. Stick some fat meat all the way around, set it up to turn hard like the old SCCA Mustangs in the mid 90's.
I loved mine, but it was a PITA in any kind of foul weather. Just don't become a statistic. ;)

[WhiteFiveO]

wait so just cuz we have more displacement means we should be able to spray a bigger shot?? please tell me how this should be true. metals metal they make the conecting rods and bottom of the motors out of the same ****

[PSI Chick]

i love internet math. 100 shot on a 4cly = 200 shot on a 8 :rolleyes:

the 302 is a stronger block than people give it credit for, but it's not THAT strong. ours lasted a while and got quite a bit of abuse, but there are just so many better engines out there that we ripped it out and went with a different set up. you can get complete 302's for like $300 anyway, so even if you do throw on a 300 shot and blow the thing up, it's not a big deal. you can do an engine swap in a few hours.

but i definetly agree that turbos are much more fun than nitrous, we tried both, and kept the turbos :thumbup:

[SilverTurboRidin]

Okay but heres the good part.... It takes you a 200 shot of nitrous too keep up with a 302. :finga:

[Nitro]

i love internet math. 100 shot on a 4cly = 200 shot on a 8 :rolleyes:


First of all, you have twice as many cylinders to divy up the shot, with each individual cylinder being a similar displacement as each of my individual cylinders. The bores are probably close enough that piston surface area is somewhat comparable. You also have 2 head gaskets to take the load, and if the pistons are of the same quality, it should be able to take the heat. If it can't, then they must not be as good of quality pistons. This coming from a guy who drives a car built for economy first, and performance second. It's not a matter of internet math, it's already been tested and proven by a number of independant sources, like HOT ROD mag for example.


Okay but heres the good part.... It takes you a 200 shot of nitrous too keep up with a 302. :finga:

And it only takes me a 25 shot to keep up with any stock 5.0 I've ever encountered (and they are many) And a 50 shot to pull ahead. A 200 shot 5.0 should hand me my hieny in a sling, but I've never seen one (and I have to wonder why) A juiced 5.0 would be the shat.

[SilverTurboRidin]

MY boy walt is gonna be selling his 5.0 with a 75 Shot. His best so far on juice is 12.9's

Thats with intake, exhaust, gear's and shift kit on DR's

[Nitro]

75 shot 5.0 running 12.9's is right on par. I'm still only spraying 25 more hp to get the same times.

[SilverTurboRidin]

75 shot 5.0 running 12.9's is right on par. I'm still only spraying 25 more hp to get the same times.

Yeah we figured he only has about 1k into the car...he paid 3500 for it 6 years ago when he bought it.

[Nitro]

that's the beauty of starting with an already good platform (V8 RWD and not too heavy) Us FWD owners are at a platform disadvantage, it took me about $1500 in mods to get where I'm at.

[SilverTurboRidin]

that's the beauty of starting with an already good platform (V8 RWD and not too heavy) Us FWD owners are at a platform disadvantage, it took me about $1500 in mods to get where I'm at.

how much did your car cost to begin with

[Nitro]

It cost me 9 grand, but I bought in in '01 when it was only 2 years old with less than 30K on the odo.

[20th1519]

A 300 shot can be had on a stock bottom end 5.0. Not for long but i can be done. It's all in the tune boys. There are some 5.0's on stock short blocks hitting 550 whp.

[WhiteFiveO]

yea ur right the stock 5.0 lower end is capable of handeling 500 hp but not with a 300 shot of nitrous it will blow right out its to much of a shockload on the bottom end it will blow to pieces

[Nitro]

So what part gives up then? The connecting rods, pistons, or the crank?

[20th1519]

It's hard to say what caused an engine to fail and then to generalize that the failed part is the weak link in the engine. It could have been a flawed part out of the box, bad tune, or a number of other variables. I would't worry about a stock short block 5.0 until i started pushing some big numbers. Right around 500-550 whp i would be callind Dart or FMS asking for a beefier block.

[2Mopars1Ford]

Wow, Ford motors must not be as well built as my little economy car 4 cylinder crapper then. I'm spraying 100 shot for about 2 years now on bone stock motor. I would figure a V8 with 302 cubic inches of displacement should be able to handle 200 hp of juice on a cast bottom, and 300 with forged. I know guys running the same motor I do but with forged con rods and pistons (still the stock crank though) running 150 shot with no probs.

Um.... the reason you cant spray a 5.0 with a 200 shot is that the bigger pistons and rotating assembly weigh alot more then yours, not to mention it has to do a longer stroke.

[Nitro]

My cubic inches per cylinder match almost identically to the 5.0. I have a 2.4L 4, so I would have the same problem if what you say is the reason for engine failure.

[347gtvert]

i was making close to 550rwhp w/ a supercharged setup on my stock 302 block


now spraying it w/ a 200shot

[88gt]

My cubic inches per cylinder match almost identically to the 5.0. I have a 2.4L 4, so I would have the same problem if what you say is the reason for engine failure.


your just an idiot and your cars a terd. nuff said!

[88gt]

to bad its not forged internals forged internals only came in 88 and 89 as for the car looks pretty pricey to me also looks like it has 180k miles on it by the way the motor looks. up to you tho 5.0 motors run forever my buddy had one with 300k miles still ran great if you got any ?s let me know i know a decent amount about our cars


86-92 forged...93 hyp.

[03tarmacblack]

86-92 forged...93 hyp.
LOL knows a decent amount about cars, he obviously dont know sh*t

[Nitro]

your just an idiot and your cars a terd. nuff said!


Wow, real mature. Just for s&g's, I'll be a taker. When you want to set it up for?

[88gt]

13.2 not worth it for me...run my boys stock 5.0 with just header back, and gears! its my old car just sold it...i will drive it if you would like!!:)

[Nitro]

Hmm, what do you run with the blown 'stang if I may ask? I can't imagine it's stock save for the blower if it runs better than a 13.2 (which is my old personal best). And what is done to it besides the blower?

[Bizee]

what blower you got on there

[88gt]

t-trim

[20th1519]

I want a mustang again.

[Nitro]

Care to answer my post, please?

[WhiteFiveO]

88gt only the 88 and 89 motors were forged

[03tarmacblack]

this is 88gt and ur wrong i will bet u any amount of money u want only 93 didnt have forged

[03tarmacblack]

http://home.pon.net/hunnicutt/history_79_93.htm

here u go sir scroll down to 91-92 read what it says....

[Bizee]

88gt i got a all motor 92 ill line up with you right now since your n/a.. headers, intake and bad egr

and yeah whitefiveoh he's right about the forged pistons..as much as id like to back ya up

[347gtvert]

88gt i got a all motor 92 ill line up with you right now since your n/a.. headers, intake and bad egr

and yeah whitefiveoh he's right about the forged pistons..as much as id like to back ya up


they are all forged EXCEPT 93. maybe 88-89 are stronger, but 87-92 were forged

it went to the hyp. piston to change the compression for emmission reasons