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CleanNeon98
06-19-2007, 07:03 AM
Story goes that about a week or so ago I had a lowering kit put in (springs struts camber stuff) and the front settled within a matter of minutes. the rear is still up there, at times it will sit a bit lower, and at times a bit higher. wtf?! what can I do to make the ass come down

CHAOS
06-19-2007, 07:28 AM
you gotta get pictures, cause this could be a figment of your imagination, or something is broken.. like a strut or something... your car wont just raise and lower itself arbitrarily

Broken5hift
06-19-2007, 08:53 AM
you gotta get pictures, cause this could be a figment of your imagination, or something is broken.. like a strut or something... your car wont just raise and lower itself arbitrarily

yea that.


EDIT: you did not install them yourself

RayArroyo
06-19-2007, 08:59 AM
it probbably sits lower when you have stuff in the trunk and higher when it dosent.after i was done the install i was shocked to see how high that rear sits

Broken5hift
06-19-2007, 09:01 AM
just fill your trunk up with jean jackets. problem solved

CHAOS
06-19-2007, 09:18 AM
haha or just raw denim

whitezenki
06-19-2007, 09:38 AM
just fill your trunk up with jean jackets. problem solved

hahahahah:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

mr_eh
06-19-2007, 10:03 AM
hacksaw - 2 coils in the rear = prollem solved.

gary
06-19-2007, 10:21 AM
This thread will help you... http://www.tristatetuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35646

Ok for real, the reason your fronts "settled" so quickly is because of the heavy engine. Springs can sometimes take a couple months to fully settle. My suggestion to you is fill your car with gas, keep it full, and park on a flat surface. You can also drive around with a few extra pounds in the truck, this won't instantly fix the situation you think you are in but will help somewhat.

You could also go talk to Ray since he would know the best since he put them on for you.

CleanNeon98
06-19-2007, 10:55 AM
if im on a certain inline or w.e it sits lower/higher. if im flat it sits how its supposed to but I dont want to have to get 2 alignments one now and one when the rear decides to come down.

CHAOS
06-19-2007, 11:02 AM
its only a worthwhile observation if the car is flat.

CleanNeon98
06-19-2007, 11:12 AM
its only a worthwhile observation if the car is flat.
so its normal for the car to raise up when on a slant?

Snoozie
06-19-2007, 11:16 AM
i think that was a little self explanatory

gary
06-19-2007, 11:16 AM
with a foofoo suspension yea. Mine stays within a 1/4 of each other, no matter what grade the ground is.

CleanNeon98
06-19-2007, 11:22 AM
with a foofoo suspension yea. Mine stays within a 1/4 of each other, no matter what grade the ground is.

mine is a good suspension....its only the rear right thats like this sometimes..maybe camber setting??

CleanNeon98
06-19-2007, 11:49 AM
here is a quick pic i threw the 3 rims on for a better understanding and have 3 steelies in the trunk...

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/6315/1002825tg9.jpg

one has a broken valve stem that im gettin changed tomorrow so il be on all 4 by tomorrow afternoon

grimm
06-19-2007, 12:06 PM
cars back ends usually "appear" to sit higher then the front ends.

Exception = subaru, where the front appears to have more gap then the rears.

CleanNeon98
06-19-2007, 12:21 PM
**** it il just get an alignment after the front end gets fixed with the tie rod ends, and ride around that way with some junk in the trunk for a bit...it sits normal most of the time

Wiisass
06-19-2007, 12:42 PM
Spring settling is bull**** created by companies who sell cheap springs that begin to fatigue within the first couple weeks. A spring has a rate, when you load it with a certain amount of a weight it is supposed to deflect x inches based on what the rate is. So unless after you put the springs on, your car gains weight, the springs should deflect the same. At least that's how it works with not piece of crap lowering springs.

And yes, when the car is on any type of slant or banked surface it will sit differently. It's called gravity, it does funny things.

OMGz Turbo
06-19-2007, 01:09 PM
my springs settled fully in about 3 weeks...but i only gained maybe another 1/8th of a inch drop lol. haha

And my springs are far from cheap.

goodfella732
06-19-2007, 01:19 PM
Im sitting waiting for my rear springs to settled after 16k miles.

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u174/turboneon732/Cars/wash4.jpg

lollerskates

OMGz Turbo
06-19-2007, 02:10 PM
Holy high roller batman!

redwrxwagon02
06-19-2007, 02:42 PM
my car sits the same way it did when i took it off the lift after i installed my tein s techs hasnt changed so i suppose this whole "settling" thing could all be in your heads

or maybe my car is just so awesome that the springs didnt need to settle

Buster
06-19-2007, 05:22 PM
Spring settling is bull**** created by companies who sell cheap springs that begin to fatigue within the first couple weeks. A spring has a rate, when you load it with a certain amount of a weight it is supposed to deflect x inches based on what the rate is. So unless after you put the springs on, your car gains weight, the springs should deflect the same. At least that's how it works with not piece of crap lowering springs.

And yes, when the car is on any type of slant or banked surface it will sit differently. It's called gravity, it does funny things.

Thats what i was gonna say, but you did it for me. LOL. Wait a year from now, you'll **** from the difference. OH Yeah! quit whining.

E-Money
06-19-2007, 06:08 PM
has the car been in a accident?
go over some bumps
as for the camber kit, you would not need one unless your dropped over 2"

CleanNeon98
06-19-2007, 07:25 PM
camber kit i prefer to have just as an insurance policy. its fine now, i guess it was just the angle i was parked on

Vince@R/TTuning
06-19-2007, 07:57 PM
were the bump stops cut down far enough??

Hondas tend to have tall bump stops...

CleanNeon98
06-19-2007, 08:03 PM
were the bump stops cut down far enough??

Hondas tend to have tall bump stops...

not sure if ray cut them or not, but with the spring instructions it only said to cut them if you have a coupe, or a 96-00 accord sedan

willthethrill
06-19-2007, 08:03 PM
i like my rear a bit higher than the front, it has a more aggressive stance.

CleanNeon98
06-19-2007, 08:06 PM
i like my rear a bit higher than the front, it has a more aggressive stance.

maybe on a g35...on a FWD car it looks funny

enigma
06-21-2007, 10:59 PM
Get a fat chick to ride in the back for few weeks.

Broken5hift
06-21-2007, 11:02 PM
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d74/Broken5hift/P1010192.jpg

woot

goodfella732
06-22-2007, 12:14 AM
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d74/Broken5hift/P1010192.jpg

woot

:bigeek:

Need to find a nice set of springs for my pig

99SL2_Modder
06-22-2007, 05:30 PM
or something is broken.. like a strut

A broken strut/shock will never ever cause a ride height issue. A bent spring perch could however.

Think about it. You can compress struts and shocks with your damn hands. That ain't keeping over 2400lbs up. They're dampers, because they dampen the spring rebound. That's all. The springs are your shock absorbers and ride height.

CleanNeon98
06-22-2007, 05:33 PM
all is well and settled

Wiisass
06-22-2007, 05:40 PM
A broken strut/shock will never ever cause a ride height issue. A bent spring perch could however.

Think about it. You can compress struts and shocks with your damn hands. That ain't keeping over 2400lbs up. They're dampers, because they dampen the spring rebound. That's all. The springs are your shock absorbers and ride height.

I don't know about that. I've seen broken shocks and struts cause some really bad ride height issues. So I wouldn't say never. You have to remember a strut is a suspension member, so if it were broken or bent, it could cause geometry effects.

Springs are not shock absorbers. A damper works in both directions, not just rebound.

99SL2_Modder
06-23-2007, 02:12 PM
I don't know about that. I've seen broken shocks and struts cause some really bad ride height issues. So I wouldn't say never. You have to remember a strut is a suspension member, so if it were broken or bent, it could cause geometry effects.

Springs are not shock absorbers. A damper works in both directions, not just rebound.

How could it cause a ride height issue? Again, they do not support the vehicle at all. They dampen the spring's action.

The spring absorbs all the shock of the bump. Hence why I said it's technically the shock absorber and shocks are named incorrectly.

Wiisass
06-23-2007, 07:32 PM
I'm not talking about blown dampers, but bent/broken dampers will cause the car to sit differently. And with struts, sometimes the top pin can bend due to lateral loading, so it will effect the way the car sits.

And the spring doesn't take all of the energy from a bump. A spring is based on displacement, a damper is based on velocity. So whenever the suspension is moving, resisting forces are coming from both the spring and the damper based on the displacement and velocity of the system.

Vince@R/TTuning
07-09-2007, 08:34 PM
I'm not talking about blown dampers, but bent/broken dampers will cause the car to sit differently. And with struts, sometimes the top pin can bend due to lateral loading, so it will effect the way the car sits.

And the spring doesn't take all of the energy from a bump. A spring is based on displacement, a damper is based on velocity. So whenever the suspension is moving, resisting forces are coming from both the spring and the damper based on the displacement and velocity of the system.


I love when u get all technical...