SRT-4's at ATCO Today 3/4/07

[carazyguy]

My friend Chris, our women, and I went down early Sunday morning to Atco to do some early time trials. We both had goals in which we surpassed with conditions that the usual racers find unfavorable. Track temp was in the high 30s, wind gust of 25+ mph and on and off snow flurries.


We took my Silver S3r with toys out first with our Mickey Thomspon Slicks and ran three runs. My first run was the second pass of the day and I opened up with a 11.8@115. The second run I just looped around and went back in line in which the car got a little heat soaked but still ran a 11.8@115. Slicks were set at 11psi and I adjusted them down to 9psi. At this point I went back around and let the car cool down. With the car cooled down, I got back up to the line and launched at only 4200RPM because I had issues with the slickers not being able to hold in first too well. This video says the rest....

http://www.youtube.com/v/gU6ONrNXUcM

To sum it up I was on stock S3 wga hitting 18-19lbs with HOM holding with a quater tank of MS109. Mods are as follows...
Mopar Stage 3 with Toys (Steel Wheel)
Mopar Short Throw Shifter
Mopar Cold Air Intake
Mopar Stage 1 Lowering Springs
Mopar High Performance Clutch
Mopar High Performance Spark Plug Wires
Needswings V6 Cutout with Mccord Plate
PSI FI Direct Fit FMIC
JMB Pressure Pipe Package with HKS SSQV Bov
Prothane Motor Mount Inserts


Three flawless runs on the Silver was good enough for me. Now it was time for Chris to play with his Stage 2 with toys set up. Chris only has Stage 2 with toys, Needswings V5 cutout, 3" O2 Housing, Forward Motion WGA setup on stock lines, AEM Cold Air Intake and a short throw shifter. The first time ever at the track with his SRT and the first time ever obviously with slicks on he cut a 12.4@108. All of us very excited with the time, he rounded for another pass. Once again the video will speak for itself...

http://www.youtube.com/v/O4w7M9VvDUU

http://www.youtube.com/v/TfJvqzMDwRg

[GreddySRT]

Very nice times. 12.4 on slicks stock turbo is pretty good. I wish I would have gotten to run mine on slicks. I would been almost in the 11's with the slicks stock turbo.

[JeEvE]

Congrats on the times, very nice. I saw you guys there, I lent you the breaker bar if you remember.

I was thinking about running but didnt think I would hook with my drag radials. I busted an axle Friday night so I was just to fix it and just decided to hang around for a while.

[carazyguy]

Very nice times. 12.4 on slicks stock turbo is pretty good. I wish I would have gotten to run mine on slicks. I would been almost in the 11's with the slicks stock turbo.

Yea his best was in the video of 12.3@108.... It sure is impressive what these cars are capable when you don't hack them up LOL.


Congrats on the times, very nice. I saw you guys there, I lent you the breaker bar if you remember.

I was thinking about running but didnt think I would hook with my drag radials. I busted an axle Friday night so I was just to fix it and just decided to hang around for a while.

Ha thanks again for helping my buddy out with that, I guess he tries to make sure his lug nuts are on there extra tight :screwy: You should have ran the track wasn't that bad, i'm sure if it was a little warmer we both could have hooked better.

[noclutch]

The track temps were way to cold it was snowing most of the day. I almost took out the 330' timer.

[GreddySRT]

Yea his best was in the video of 12.3@108.... It sure is impressive what these cars are capable when you don't hack them up LOL.

I'll ignore that.

[carazyguy]

The track temps were way to cold it was snowing most of the day. I almost took out the 330' timer.

That's what makes it fun and shocked both of us we acheived what we did in those conditions! :lol: How did you do? What were you running?

[carazyguy]

I'll ignore that.

:roll: It was not referred to you. It was younger guys that don't do research on the car and throw on a boost controller on a stock pcm running 21 lbs of boost wondering why his car doesn't break 13s...

[JeEvE]

What were your 60' s?

[noclutch]

That's what makes it fun and shocked both of us we acheived what we did in those conditions! :lol: How did you do? What were you running?

I had the maroon 1g dsm that looked and sounded fast sitting in the pits... but in reality it could barely make it down the track under its own power.:lol:

[sleeperstyle]

damn, i was pulling those identical 60's on motor (srt 4 guy). good job, not many people can get them to hook like that!

noclutch= 12 second racecar :lol:

[noclutch]

werd, 12.6 was the best pass of the day :bigeek:

[sleeperstyle]

good job!

[noclutch]

Ill hit 12.0's before the season ends, I promise.

[sleeperstyle]

fuggin neons can beat us :cry:

that's it im selling the car

[GroceryGetter]

hey sleeper you still run 12.1 12.2 without nos?

[noclutch]

Ha, that car cant even get into the 12s without a 100shot of NOS

[LudiChris95]

hey man how did you axels do with slick launching that high? and what size slicks are you using? i just got a fifty trim on and i'm looking to get some. just seeing how your axels were holding up and stuff.

[alwaysinboost]

http://www.youtube.com/v/TfJvqzMDwRg

hey thats me in the car behind you. those neons were moving, I raced a white or silver one, I forget which, that went 11.8 @ 115. I couldn't get any kind of traction what so ever, even with ET streets I was all over the track. usually its the FWD guys having problems launching, not RDW and AWD. WTF is the world coming to :screwy:

[carazyguy]

hey thats me in the car behind you. those neons were moving, I raced a white or silver one, I forget which, that went 11.8 @ 115. I couldn't get any kind of traction what so ever, even with ET streets I was all over the track. usually its the FWD guys having problems launching, not RDW and AWD. WTF is the world coming to :screwy:



LOL you were that Z06???? Your car sounded and looked very intimidating with the supercharger whining away, skinnies in the front, et streets on the back :bigeek:. I was like ok i'm going to get raped, but it suprisingly went the other way lol. I was like ohhhhhh boy. I'm the one with the silver that ran you running 11.8 that pass. I ran a 11.6 about an hour later. :lol: I'll have to have my buddy post up our run we got it on video.

[sleeperstyle]

yeah with any type of traction in that z06 it would've been bad for the srt4.

[alwaysinboost]

LOL you were that Z06???? Your car sounded and looked very intimidating with the supercharger whining away, skinnies in the front, et streets on the back :bigeek:. I was like ok i'm going to get raped, but it suprisingly went the other way lol. I was like ohhhhhh boy. I'm the one with the silver that ran you running 11.8 that pass. I ran a 11.6 about an hour later. :lol: I'll have to have my buddy post up our run we got it on video.

yeah please do, I would love to have a clean vid of one of my passes.

that car you have moves, I wasn't expecting you to come out of the hole like that at all, and maintain your lead. very nicely driving. I would like a rematch when the weather is a little warmer :lol:

[carazyguy]

Have you ever run your car in nicer weather? You have a full second of catching up to do, and my car isn't all complete yet lol. I'm only on 18-19lbs when the car with an aftermarket s3 wga will be around 22lbs. But besides bench racing what does your car put down on the dyno and at what boost?

[noclutch]

Haha, he just got the car and that was the first time at the track. He really couldnt even stay into it to redline in any gear so Im gonna say the car has a little more in it. I think it dyno'ed somewhere in the 550whp range?

[carazyguy]

Well here's his video against me, sorry your car isn't on film that much we were worried about my times lol. But from the launch you can hear me spin a bit in 1st.

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/carazyguy/0/e0a380b7-9001-4f7b-9b52-98e70110f2ec.htm

[Albertrt-4]

Well here's his video against me, sorry your car isn't on film that much we were worried about my times lol. But from the launch you can hear me spin a bit in 1st.

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/carazyguy/0/e0a380b7-9001-4f7b-9b52-98e70110f2ec.htm


Very nicely done, car sounds awesome, and obviously put the #'s down to prove it. Keep up the good work :thumbup:

...oh and as a i keep saying, silver is the fastest color :lol:

[alwaysinboost]

Have you ever run your car in nicer weather? You have a full second of catching up to do, and my car isn't all complete yet lol. I'm only on 18-19lbs when the car with an aftermarket s3 wga will be around 22lbs. But besides bench racing what does your car put down on the dyno and at what boost?

against you was my first ever pass in the car, I only made four that day and they ranged from 12.0 @ 113 - 13.0 @ 103. Traction was my enemy as noclutch stated, I kept getting sideways from 2nd -4th gear when I would shift so I called it quits early. cold weather + 500whp = no traction :screwy:

[sleeperstyle]

500rwhp... :roll: :roll: oh man:mrgreen:

i can see it now, on the srt4 forums

"TOOK OUT A SUPERCHARGED Z06 AT THE TRACK!!!" :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: i think that is just the greatest thing:lol: :lol:

[carazyguy]

A loss is a loss, doesn't matter how many car lengths or what excuses. Either way sorry, keep working at the sub 12 seconds times lol.

[alwaysinboost]

nobody is making excuses, you did get a better ET then me.

I've been in the position before where I've beaten a car that should be much faster then I am but for whatever reason they weren't. I personally didn't consider it a win because I knew there is no way it could have been a fair race.

[alwaysinboost]

I'm at atco often so I'm sure we can line up again if you like...

[sleeperstyle]

A loss is a loss, doesn't matter how many car lengths or what excuses. Either way sorry, keep working at the sub 12 seconds times lol.

:lol: :lol: :lol: ZING! :eek: :mrgreen:

[mikes93]

Great Job with your car and awsome runs. congrad on very nice numbers, you make supras look bad and Z06, hummm breakfast :lol:


mike
06 sti
93 supra

[carazyguy]

Sorry I got the names wrong the guy that was being a doosh wasn't even the owner of the car. LOL sorry alwaysinboost and i might be back soon i'll let you know.

[highmilehatch]

Nice work guys holding it down for the FWD's! Are these cars on open diffs?

[spoolin05srt4]

Just came on here to say thanks to all the compliments guys!! Im the owner of the other SRT. And to all those Corvette guys.....you're slow

[spoolin05srt4]

Yea his best was in the video of 12.3@108.... It sure is impressive what these cars are capable when you don't hack them up LOL.




Ha thanks again for helping my buddy out with that, I guess he tries to make sure his lug nuts are on there extra tight :screwy: You should have ran the track wasn't that bad, i'm sure if it was a little warmer we both could have hooked better.



:mad:

[carazyguy]

:mad:

Jill said you had tight nuts but i thought she was referring to something else. :bigeek:

[carazyguy]

Nice work guys holding it down for the FWD's! Are these cars on open diffs?

2003 SRT-4s were open diffs, 04-05's were limited slip Quaife differentials.

[sleeperstyle]

well alwaysinboost didn't want me to say anything but i don't care... he did hit 11.9 today at the track. so now he only has .3 to make up.

should do another run with the srt4 and the vette. like the one srt-4 guy said above, vettes are SLOW :lol: :lol: :lol:

[noclutch]

Ha, I dont believe it without video. I hear vette owners are trading up to srt-4s.:bigeek:

[spoolin05srt4]

well alwaysinboost didn't want me to say anything but i don't care... he did hit 11.9 today at the track. so now he only has .3 to make up.

should do another run with the srt4 and the vette. like the one srt-4 guy said above, vettes are SLOW :lol: :lol: :lol:


You get us a vid and a timeslip and then we'll talk. :roll:

[spoolin05srt4]

Ha, I dont believe it without video. I hear vette owners are trading up to srt-4s.:bigeek:



Dude you heard that too? :eek:

[noclutch]

So the srt4s still have the vette covered right? F the video, get it done at the track. Lemme know when this goes down Ill be the guy in the stands taking bets.

[D Money]

wow, nice runs bro! 11.6 is wild!

I raced a stage 3 w/toys yesterday on the cruise, he got the jump off the roll but we pretty much stayed even the whole time. Needless to say, i'd like to get a run in next time im in TR. :wink:

[carazyguy]

wow, nice runs bro! 11.6 is wild!

I raced a stage 3 w/toys yesterday on the cruise, he got the jump off the roll but we pretty much stayed even the whole time. Needless to say, i'd like to get a run in next time im in TR. :wink:

LOL you would - where's Drew been at man I can't find him anywhere?

[alwaysinboost]

well alwaysinboost didn't want me to say anything but i don't care... he did hit 11.9 today at the track. so now he only has .3 to make up.

should do another run with the srt4 and the vette. like the one srt-4 guy said above, vettes are SLOW :lol: :lol: :lol:

there must have been something wrong with the timing boxes yesterday.. :screwy: it felt way faster then an 11.998

[sleeperstyle]

yeah it felt like AT LEAST a 11.7 :lol:

[D Money]

LOL you would - where's Drew been at man I can't find him anywhere?

I would what?

I haven't seen drew either.

[6UndrPressr]

late to this post but what else is done to that vette besides a blower and tires??? sounds like its lacking some major MPH, hopefully its out of tune or is on low boost with no other mods???? just curious thats all

[alwaysinboost]

late to this post but what else is done to that vette besides a blower and tires??? sounds like its lacking some major MPH, hopefully its out of tune or is on low boost with no other mods???? just curious thats all

it only has heads, cam, a blower & tires. its running on low boost till some issues get worked out, its making around 500 at the wheels. traction is pretty hard to come by though, I think thats the reason for the crappy times. :screwy:

[6UndrPressr]

im not concerned with the times, mph shows power and that is not 500HP mph right there...a old freind of mine had a bone stock z06 and went a best of 12.2 at 112 and change....i think you need a new tuner or something is def wrong not trying to bash just saying....

[alwaysinboost]

thanks for the input, I appreciate it. I think that maybe the dyno I was using reads high or something because I agree 113mph traps don't = 500hp in a 3500# car.

[6UndrPressr]

3500??? is this a convertable?? where did you take it to get dynoed?? i know some local places that do good work...on a good head,cam, tire and blower vette there is no problem not to be dipping in the 10's with ease at high 120's i would think.

[alwaysinboost]

3520 - 3540 I believe is what it weighed last time I was at the track.

damn, so you think I should be running 10s @ 120 huh. the car feels a lot faster then my timeslip said thats why I think the timers were off that day... I'm going to the track one more time next week, if I don't go 10s or trap 120 like you said I think I'm going to trade it in on a neon srt4 on Saturday.

[spoolin05srt4]

3520 - 3540 I believe is what it weighed last time I was at the track.

damn, so you think I should be running 10s @ 120 huh. the car feels a lot faster then my timeslip said thats why I think the timers were off that day... I'm going to the track one more time next week, if I don't go 10s or trap 120 like you said I think I'm going to trade it in on a neon srt4 on Saturday.


:rotfl: :rotfl: :thumbup:

[mr_eh]

3520 - 3540 I believe is what it weighed last time I was at the track.

damn, so you think I should be running 10s @ 120 huh. the car feels a lot faster then my timeslip said thats why I think the timers were off that day... I'm going to the track one more time next week, if I don't go 10s or trap 120 like you said I think I'm going to trade it in on a neon srt4 on Saturday.

i'll trade you a 111mph short shifting spinning on snow tires srt4 for your vette

[noclutch]

3520 - 3540 I believe is what it weighed last time I was at the track.

damn, so you think I should be running 10s @ 120 huh. the car feels a lot faster then my timeslip said thats why I think the timers were off that day... I'm going to the track one more time next week, if I don't go 10s or trap 120 like you said I think I'm going to trade it in on a neon srt4 on Saturday.

Just let one of the SRT-4 drivers run it down the track. You know they can drive. If they cant do it then its time to sell it. WHo built that car? They dunno how to toon the ls1.

check your throttle cable too. Mine was adjusted wrong one time, wasnt openin all the way, quick turn of the ol wrench.. like 200hp.. no lie

[sleeperstyle]

3500??? is this a convertable?? where did you take it to get dynoed?? i know some local places that do good work...on a good head,cam, tire and blower vette there is no problem not to be dipping in the 10's with ease at high 120's i would think.

fyi they didn't make a convertable Z06.

I THINK the dyno for the vette was high, and the blower is actually pushing air the WRONG way, hence creating a vacuum in the intake instead of boost and making it slower than a stock z06.

alwaysinboost- try turning the blower around to see if it helps. if that doesn't work i'd just trade it in for the srt4. turbo fwd 4 cylinder> supercharged rwd 8 cylinder any day of the week.

[alwaysinboost]

check your throttle cable too. Mine was adjusted wrong one time, wasnt openin all the way, quick turn of the ol wrench.. like 200hp.. no lie

its drive by wire but I'll check the floor mats, I hear they can get caught behind the pedal and essentially do the same thing you described.

[alwaysinboost]

I THINK the dyno for the vette was high, and the blower is actually pushing air the WRONG way, hence creating a vacuum in the intake instead of boost and making it slower than a stock z06.

alwaysinboost- try turning the blower around to see if it helps. if that doesn't work i'd just trade it in for the srt4. turbo fwd 4 cylinder> supercharged rwd 8 cylinder any day of the week.

Good point, I was talking to a guy who knows alot about SC cars and he said if the impeller is installed backwards it will be like having a big boost leak... I'll bet thats what happened. I'm going to try and flip it around the other way and see what happens.

[peteyturbo]

IF you can get a look at the impeller blades you should be able to tell..What kind of kit could actually let this happen though??Either way when it is sorted out it will pretty much eat 99% of the "skittles" we cal neons, I mean srt4's at the track, and then drive home while they are still putting there other tires back on..Good point, I was talking to a guy who knows alot about SC cars and he said if the impeller is installed backwards it will be like having a big boost leak... I'll bet thats what happened. I'm going to try and flip it around the other way and see what happens.

[6UndrPressr]

calm down sleeperstyle i know they did not make a convertable zo6 i was being sarcastic....hmmm matter of fact i think me and you still have a race to get off one of these months, lol

[SRT42EnVy]

Very nice times for your mods. That stage 3 isnt even that big of a turbo and your prob around 375+ o race gas and running mid 11's. Very impressive, daily driveabilty and reliabilty must be nice.

And the stage 2 car, wow, thats amazing, you guys are really representing, hopefully i can get my .50 trim down the track and not break any axles like ive done before and be in the 11's too.

[sleeperstyle]

calm down sleeperstyle i know they did not make a convertable zo6 i was being sarcastic....hmmm matter of fact i think me and you still have a race to get off one of these months, lol

im calm. i'll run whenever your ready! make sure you are on racegas and bring the slicks:eek: :wink: :)

[6UndrPressr]

im on hoosiers and run pump gas.....wondeirng if i should spot you out to make it fair or not still.....=)

[sleeperstyle]

i'll take any spots i can get with my junk:wink:

[Bizee]

and the blower is actually pushing air the WRONG way, hence creating a vacuum in the intake instead of boost and making it slower than a stock z06.

alwaysinboost- try turning the blower around to see if it helps.


hmmm.. maybe that is my problem.. maybe you should sticky this tech tip..

-im cracking up here over that post.

[DocEwww]

LOL you would - where's Drew been at man I can't find him anywhere?

:mrgreen:

Congrats Tom! Thats EXACTLY what I said the car was gonna run when you took me for a ride that last time in TR. BTW your car is now faster than both of mine as far as proven timeslips. :eek: