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HuffRex
02-14-2007, 04:01 PM
I need a motor builder and machinest in the Philadelphia Region ASAP. Perferrably one with Subaru experiance or a good backing. Thanx

D Money
02-14-2007, 04:05 PM
Rich from precision tuning.

TROLL
02-14-2007, 04:06 PM
dear god man, i guess i should give up then huh? i think we had a pretty long convo about how you cant just use any machinist and builder? unless you want the same thing to happen again?

Rich at Precision tuning, otherwise order a prebuilt block from Axis. Those are the only two options I would go with, and I've done my homework.

D Money
02-14-2007, 04:10 PM
Oh yeah, if you didn't buy anything, just get the Axis stage 2 or 3 block!

TalonTsi97
02-14-2007, 04:18 PM
Wheres Rich at Precision tuning located? I will do a quick search myself but seems like you guys know whats up. He have a website?

TROLL
02-14-2007, 04:22 PM
http://www.precisiontuning.com/06/

tell him Bryan from TST sent you, maybe it'll make up for me dragging my feet on my motor build

Ender81
02-15-2007, 12:24 AM
Area1320 FTW!!!!!

TROLL
02-15-2007, 12:33 AM
I don't know what kind of experience 1320 has with machining and engine building so this is not directed at them at all, but in case this is helpful for anyone...
A great parts exhaust installer, wiring guy, engine swapper, alignment guy, fabricator, or tuner... does not make a good engine builder. It is a totally different type of very specialized work and good quality builders are few and far between. It is by far one of the most sensitive and important decisions you'll have to make if you ever come to it, and it is certainly not for whoever is local and offers to do the job. It is not something that can't be done pretty much perfect and it'll be fine... its either perfect or its going to blow up.
I would guess, based on my time in the built motor forum on nasioc, that at least 1/3 of built motors fail, and of course that is at the expense of anywhere from $1500-$5000 plus having your car down for weeks or months.
Hope that was informative for a few...

Ender81
02-15-2007, 01:06 AM
I don't know what kind of experience 1320 has with machining and engine building so this is not directed at them at all, but in case this is helpful for anyone...
A great parts exhaust installer, wiring guy, engine swapper, alignment guy, fabricator, or tuner... does not make a good engine builder. It is a totally different type of very specialized work and good quality builders are few and far between. It is by far one of the most sensitive and important decisions you'll have to make if you ever come to it, and it is certainly not for whoever is local and offers to do the job. It is not something that can't be done pretty much perfect and it'll be fine... its either perfect or its going to blow up.
I would guess, based on my time in the built motor forum on nasioc, that at least 1/3 of built motors fail, and of course that is at the expense of anywhere from $1500-$5000 plus having your car down for weeks or months.
Hope that was informative for a few...


I agree 100% don't forget that you really need to know the person that you choose beyond just asking who went there before you because who knows maybe their motor just hasn't blown yet. Knowing the person ensures that they know what you're goals are and are better able to make recomendations based on what you're driving habits are (talking you out of a race motor for your daily driver). That being said when it comes time for me to have the engine work done on my car it's only going to be done at 1320 because that's who I feel most comfortable with and I know that if Ryan can't do it he will be the first one to tell me. Good advice all around (especially for people without a lot of excperience in finding a good shop).

evomike
02-15-2007, 02:33 AM
not to doubt anyone but you asked for opinions so ill give mine, contact sponsored1 on here he has built aot of serious stuff. i fully stand behind his work 100% and he built my stroker, but of you know a suby specialist then by all means just figured id give you some options

HuffRex
02-15-2007, 09:46 AM
I appreciate all the help guys....keep it coming

C'DALERIDER
02-15-2007, 02:32 PM
Lorenzo's Fast Flow Cylinder
They also do engines. Best head dude around by far!

na is best!
02-17-2007, 09:24 PM
why you guys so afraid of builders???? I mean it aint rocket science.. just get someone who has built many many motors and has the experience. Building a motor is all about specs. My boy rebuilt his motor in his livingroom...lol.. I kno a dude who built his block in his laundry room... you just have to know what you are doing.. i dunno maybe it is cuz you are talkin bout Subaru's... and if a motor blows it isnt always cuz of builder error.. i think most motor i seen blow are tuners errors.. or drivers error.. really depends on how it blows...

Lorenzo's Fast Flow Cylinder
They also do engines. Best head dude around by far!

anyway i dont know who you talkin about but the best headjobs i have ever seen (and i seen many) are done at headgames in NJ... i got their number if you are intrested

anyway here is some pics of my boy building his motor in his livingroom just for fun...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/ek9civic96/DSCN0009.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/ek9civic96/DSCN0118.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/ek9civic96/DSCN0177.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/ek9civic96/DSCN0190-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/ek9civic96/DSCN0193-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/ek9civic96/DSCN0196.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/ek9civic96/DSCN0198-1.jpg

IMPREZvWRX
02-25-2007, 10:39 PM
why you guys so afraid of builders???? I mean it aint rocket science...and if a motor blows it isnt always cuz of builder error.. i think most motor i seen blow are tuners errors.. or drivers error.. really depends on how it blows...

Well, Huff already had someone build him a motor. It burned an insane amount of oil right away. This time around, he wants to be extra careful, since he hasn't really had the chance to drive his car in the past few months, and it's cost a few assloads of money so far and still doesn't run.

na is best!
02-25-2007, 10:50 PM
is it for racing? I can recomend some great shops.. NRGTech, HeadGames, 1320, MBRacing... how deep is this build?

HuffRex
02-26-2007, 10:07 AM
not really too much of a build it was...stock brand new sti bottom end with cp pistons, and my jdm v7 sti heads...that was it...heads are getting checked out right now at lorenzos

HuffRex
02-26-2007, 10:08 AM
Well, Huff already had someone build him a motor. It burned an insane amount of oil right away. This time around, he wants to be extra careful, since he hasn't really had the chance to drive his car in the past few months, and it's cost a few assloads of money so far and still doesn't run.

your damn straight chris...i honestly haven't enjoyed this car for about 6 months now...

C'DALERIDER
02-26-2007, 11:00 AM
your damn straight chris...i honestly haven't enjoyed this car for about 6 months now...

WEll, i know how that feels, as do most folks who have built a "race" car or heavily modded street car. They are usualy in the garage more than on the street :mad:

poolmike
02-26-2007, 03:25 PM
Well, Huff already had someone build him a motor. It burned an insane amount of oil right away. This time around, he wants to be extra careful, since he hasn't really had the chance to drive his car in the past few months, and it's cost a few assloads of money so far and still doesn't run.

I had an engine do that. The rings never seated for whatever reason. It was built by a very reliable builder.

I've had lots of luck with Markovich Engines in Warminster, I don't know that they will tackle imports.

Lorenzo's always does quality work.

My buddy George Whitlock would probably do it, when he is done with the Chazmobile.

na is best!
02-26-2007, 10:16 PM
ring seating has nothing to do with engine building... well a little but i mean.. your cylinders should have a fresh hone so thery are round.. your pistons are round.. and your rings are round..if it is built right everything should be in spec and clearences... but seating the rings is your job when you turn that motor on.. contray to what many people say about putting such and such miles first.. with any built motor YOU need to seat the rings and tune it as soon as you turn it on!!!!

poolmike
02-26-2007, 11:23 PM
ring seating has nothing to do with engine building... well a little but i mean.. your cylinders should have a fresh hone so thery are round.. your pistons are round.. and your rings are round..if it is built right everything should be in spec and clearences... but seating the rings is your job when you turn that motor on.. contray to what many people say about putting such and such miles first.. with any built motor YOU need to seat the rings and tune it as soon as you turn it on!!!!

The builder used chromoly rings and did not hone properly. The motor was properly broken in. It used 1 quart of oil with every tank of fuel. The builder made good on it.