Xotic subaru and EVO dyno tuning day!

[C'DALERIDER]

Get those winter mods DONE. In an attempt to help satisfy the tristate areas tuning needs....Xotic Motorsports will be hosting a Dyno tuning day. For directions see our web site or pm me.
Respond to this thread or pm me for a spot asap! spaces will fill up quickly!
i need your name, contact info, car info and mods done to it ( try to be accurate as possible!) and a downpayment. Ill let you know the prices asap but they may vary according to car, mods and ECU reflash software.
Ecutek license is $200 additional - if they already have a ecutek license then you dont have to pay any fees.



Date: either March 23rd and 24th or 30th and 31st. Im thinking we will need at least two days of tuning due to all the cars in the Delaware Valley/tristate vicinity in need of a good tune. Still waiting to hear what is the best date for the tuner.

Tuner: Al of Dyno Flash LLC.
Price: shooting for $380-$450 for a tune from one of the best tuners in the country!

EVO software/reflash: Tech Tom - Ecutek and open source

Subaru software/reflash: Cobb Access port/protune - ecutek - utec - open source

time needed: 1.5-2hours average.

Additional Info to follow.
Any questions please PM me!

[RayArroyo]

Get those winter mods DONE. In an attempt to help satisfy the tristate areas tuning needs....Xotic Motorsports will be hosting a Dyno tuning day. For directions see our web site or pm me.
Respond to this thread or pm me for a spot asap! spaces will fill up quickly!
i need your name, contact info, car info and mods done to it ( try to be accurate as possible!) and a downpayment. Ill let you know the prices asap but they may vary according to car, mods and ECU reflash software.
Ecutek license is $200 additional - if they already have a ecutek license then you dont have to pay any fees.



Date: either March 23rd and 24th or 30th and 31st. Im thinking we will need at least two days of tuning due to all the cars in the Delaware Valley/tristate vicinity in need of a good tune. Still waiting to hear what is the best date for the tuner.

Tuner: Al of Dyno Flash LLC.
Price: shooting for $380-$450 for a tune from one of the best tuners in the country!

EVO software/reflash: Tech Tom - Ecutek and open source

Subaru software/reflash: Cobb Access port/protune - ecutek - utec - open source

time needed: 1.5-2hours average.

Additional Info to follow.
Any questions please PM me!



thats an awsome idea!!!! good thinking !!!

[C'DALERIDER]

Thanks! Maybe you can take over if he get tired!

Oh, for the love of the tuning gods...PLEASE make sure your car is in good working order (ig...enough oil, No boost leaks...etc) before getting tuned! If you need any help, im sure we or Ray can get you taken care of before the tune.
Peace

[HuffRex]

Bump for a good plan!

[WRXD]

I'm very interested!! Get those prices to us!

wohoo

[C'DALERIDER]

Most cars will be about $395 for a dyno flash tune. I remember paying over $400 for a "poor" tune that i drove 3 hours to get so this is on par i think. Still, this is some coin, so make sure we have our mods done and our cars are in good working order so we dont actualy loose money, cause we have to pay the tuner for his time.

[D Money]

Hmmm, can I come and watch. lol

[S4toSTI]

Who is doing the tuning?

[HuffRex]

AL from Dyno Flash

[S4toSTI]

AL from Dyno Flash

HAHAHAHA OK.

[C'DALERIDER]

HAHAHAHA OK.

You know him? He's a good guy and very good EVO and Suby tuner.

[S4toSTI]

Not saying anything bad just think thats funny.

[C'DALERIDER]

Afew spots on hold so far. Lets go TST's. Im doing this for you guys!

[HuffRex]

I would be up for it! I'm gonna give you call in a little bit Ron!

[C'DALERIDER]

I would be up for it! I'm gonna give you call in a little bit Ron!

:thumbup:

[InfiniteMotors]

Looks like i'm gunna be spending some time on my knees


strapping eveyone's cars down on the dyno.

Anyone who will be ready for a tune PLEASE make sure you are not leaking oil and/or other fluids! And a note to Subaru's with Slowboy turbos: make sure your inlet tube is on :wink:

See you all at the end of March

[Buster]

I think I could use a good protune for my AP. Ill see if I can get in for this.

[CHAOS]

ill probably show up... doubt ill get tuned... dont really need it.

[karl]

im in need of a tune...fill me in one of those spots...

[D Money]

Looks like i'm gunna be spending some time on my knees


strapping eveyone's cars down on the dyno.

Anyone who will be ready for a tune PLEASE make sure you are not leaking oil and/or other fluids! And a note to Subaru's with Slowboy turbos: make sure your inlet tube is on :wink:

See you all at the end of March

lol boy do I remember that day. hahaha

Stupid kid made me drive all the way up there and made it so I couldn't get my car tuned.

[Renegade_]

I'll definitely be there - no tune though, it's not really worth it :roll:

[noclutch]

haha, Al from DYNOHACK.

Hes a ****ing scumbag. The one and only time I met him, I went with my cousin to Pruven in Conn. Tried burning a toon on his ECU and rendered the car inoperable for 9 ****ing hours. That was a fun day waiting in the cold after Pruven closed while Al went and picked up his kids, ran some errands, took his good old time going to a dealer and getting it reflashed back to stock. No big deal, except the fact that he blamed my cousin because it was the first 04 he ever did. No ****ing apoligy, not even avting like he was sorry, just said " Ill give you a ride to the bus station and you can come back up tomorrow and pick the car up." It was funny how all the other tuning shops he called to get the code for the ecu told him to f*ck-off, wonder why.
Piss poor attitude, bad businessman. He ****s the EVO community over by offering overpriced bull**** "mail-order" tunes. The sheep will keep going to him as long as the lawyer can talk them into it. At least you guys will keep funding his racecar that doesnt even use the stock ecu.:roll:

Dont you guys look on EvoM where he lies and contradicts himself constantly?

[WRXD]

is there gonna be like a 'group buy' price for this??

[ToTheIX's]

haha, Al from DYNOHACK.

Hes a ****ing scumbag. The one and only time I met him, I went with my cousin to Pruven in Conn. Tried burning a toon on his ECU and rendered the car inoperable for 9 ****ing hours. That was a fun day waiting in the cold after Pruven closed while Al went and picked up his kids, ran some errands, took his good old time going to a dealer and getting it reflashed back to stock. No big deal, except the fact that he blamed my cousin because it was the first 04 he ever did. No ****ing apoligy, not even avting like he was sorry, just said " Ill give you a ride to the bus station and you can come back up tomorrow and pick the car up." It was funny how all the other tuning shops he called to get the code for the ecu told him to f*ck-off, wonder why.
Piss poor attitude, bad businessman. He ****s the EVO community over by offering overpriced bull**** "mail-order" tunes. The sheep will keep going to him as long as the lawyer can talk them into it. At least you guys will keep funding his racecar that doesnt even use the stock ecu.:roll:

Dont you guys look on EvoM where he lies and contradicts himself constantly?

yea i was hopin somebody else would say that bc i didnt want to do it, but ive heard way too many bad things about the things the guy does from people i know and trust very much, and ive seen the rants and raves on evom too, sucks to bc i need to get tuned here shortly, but i dont want him doin it

[noclutch]

Exactly, noone heeds the advice of the trustworthy people in the community and continues to send business his way. He takes no accountability when he ****s up. Good luck to you guys that shell out $400 to this schmuck, hopefully you wont turn into another dynohack horror story.

[C'DALERIDER]

Wow. Ok. Let me see what i can do about this. I thought i did my home work! Obviously NOT! Jeez. Any suggestions?????
Im only trying to accomidate the tuning needs for some customers, myself and the tristate area in need of good tunes for the new year. References?

[noclutch]

http://www.iveytune.com/

[TalonTsi97]

http://www.iveytune.com/

Very good suggestion, i would check into him

[twizhimself]

i know of one good tuner....hes the only guy i want touching my car......

[ToTheIX's]

ivey is a very good suggestion

[C'DALERIDER]

for subys also?

[95Taclipse]

Sorry, but 400 bucks???????? I took my Honda which i had just put a turbo on at the time up to PSI Motorsports. Frank is extremely professional and will tune you car to SAFE horsepower. If you try rasin your boost or whatnot when he's done wih your car, its at your own risk. Like i said, he will tune it SAFE. And it was only 300 bucks. Just my input

[C'DALERIDER]

well Al charges $399 for tuning at his place in CT. That average. I payed that to dave brown at metric for a protune.
Il contact these folks asap!
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[ToTheIX's]

i agree, the price is good for a good tune and dyno time.....id be all for it if we get someone other then al

[peteyturbo]

Ron,
Al is an excellent tuner with next to zero complaints as far as results are concerned, I can vouch for some of his tunes. He is not as personable as some people would expect him to be and of course he has had some bad days, but when you look at the number of cars running around running excellent times at the track I think you will see that his track record is probably one of the best out there.
Sean is an excellent tuner as well but I don't believe he tunes via techtom or ecuflash , I am pretty sure he only flashes with ECUtek. But if you have an AEM ems, motec, haltech, or technomotive ect. I would look no further then Sean as he is one of the best in not only tuning the standalones, but has been around them enough to figure out the really irratating problems that might show themselves when running theese type of ECU's with many different kinds of cars..
just my .02

[The Devils Z]

well Al charges $399 for tuning at his place in CT. That average. I payed that to dave brown at metric for a protune.
Il contact these folks asap!
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What's going on with Andy ? Why don't you guys get him to tune?


How much more time should I let pass before I hear about the matter that Xotic needs to resolved with me ?

[C'DALERIDER]

How much more time should I let pass before I hear about the matter that Xotic needs to resolved with me ?

Well, i just rec'd the return check. il pm you about the $30.

[PaleDSM]

You know him? He's a good guy and very good EVO and Suby tuner.

Depends on who you ask I suppose.

Glad to see Xotic is still around. Haven't heard a peep from that place in years.

[C'DALERIDER]

^ probably because Andy was to busy to do anything else! Very busy.

[PaleDSM]

When I knew them it was still run by Josh and Art.

[UnderPoweredRS]

york PA is a long ride but Chad (ChadBlockracingdevolment) just got his dyno installed and he seems like a pretty good tuner/builder.

[FASTERTHANU]

Bizump

[gsrboi80]

I kinda gotta lean with Petey on this one the man has countless EVOs all over the country making great power and running awesome track times. All set aside this is the truth and these cars are safe and reliable. I cant say I ever saw a thread saying Al blew up my car

I have heard the stories on EVOm about Als personality but have no 1rst hand expierience. I can say I wouldnt worry that your car will blow up in his hands cause it just wont happen. He makes EVOs smile and thats cool with me :-p

[Sultan]

york PA is a long ride but Chad (ChadBlockracingdevolment) just got his dyno installed and he seems like a pretty good tuner/builder.

sweet - only 3 miles from me... I've been looking for a good dyno shop in the area

_

[PaleDSM]

haha, Al from DYNOHACK.

Hes a ****ing scumbag. The one and only time I met him, I went with my cousin to Pruven in Conn. Tried burning a toon on his ECU and rendered the car inoperable for 9 ****ing hours. That was a fun day waiting in the cold after Pruven closed while Al went and picked up his kids, ran some errands, took his good old time going to a dealer and getting it reflashed back to stock. No big deal, except the fact that he blamed my cousin because it was the first 04 he ever did. No ****ing apoligy, not even avting like he was sorry, just said " Ill give you a ride to the bus station and you can come back up tomorrow and pick the car up." It was funny how all the other tuning shops he called to get the code for the ecu told him to f*ck-off, wonder why.
Piss poor attitude, bad businessman. He ****s the EVO community over by offering overpriced bull**** "mail-order" tunes. The sheep will keep going to him as long as the lawyer can talk them into it. At least you guys will keep funding his racecar that doesnt even use the stock ecu.:roll:

Dont you guys look on EvoM where he lies and contradicts himself constantly?


You're saying what I was thinking my man. I have had more than one close friend have problems with his tune and his personality both.

[foxracr10]

york PA is a long ride but Chad (ChadBlockracingdevolment) just got his dyno installed and he seems like a pretty good tuner/builder.

Does he have an AWD dyno? Does anyone else know anything about this guy?

[C'DALERIDER]

Chad had got a Mustang dyno not to long ago. Hes a good guy, however i still think
Al and/Or ANDY ARE MUCH BETTER EXPERIENCED TUNERS and more local to most.
BTW, a very good chance Andy will be tuning again VERY soon, and thats very good for the subaru AND EVO fellas (not to much for me thou...haha)! He is a strong tuner IMO.
Just letting folks know whats up. I or some one will LYK asap.

[Ronin Tactical]

Can I get my LS1 GTO tuned?

[CHAOS]

can i get my huffy tuned?

[Ronin Tactical]

All you got to do with the Huffy is grease the wheel bearings, adds 20 whp.

[C'DALERIDER]

gto, sure, but i doubt at Xotic. Need hpt tuners i think, amung other reasons.

Huffy, get some redbull.

[Honest_Bob]

BTW, a very good chance Andy will be tuning again VERY soon, and thats very good for the subaru AND EVO fellas (not to much for me thou...haha)! He is a strong tuner IMO.
Just letting folks know whats up. I or some one will LYK asap.

Fing sweet. :mrgreen:

[ej20wrx123]

You're saying what I was thinking my man. I have had more than one close friend have problems with his tune and his personality both.

Noclucths story does suck! But it doesnt say anything about al tuning ability just says hes a dick...LOL. I havent heard of any storys of al blowing up cars and anytime i've heard someone question their tune he ALWAYS says to bring it in and he will fix the problem. AL oboviuosly cant be that bad at tuning subys since theres vids of him driving his 500+whp stock block sti.

[olsookie]

yea i was hopin somebody else would say that bc i didnt want to do it, but ive heard way too many bad things about the things the guy does from people i know and trust very much, and ive seen the rants and raves on evom too, sucks to bc i need to get tuned here shortly, but i dont want him doin it

+2, i bought a flash from him and supposed you can send back datalogs and he'll fine tune it for you. i can't even get him to answer questions regarding p0300.... had 20k miles on my car before the flash, not a code thrown... can't say the same nowadays...

[ej20wrx123]

what do you mean you cant get ahold of him? You've called the shop right?

[alwaysinboost]

DynoFlash Al is a F'ing hack, I wouldn't give that b!tch a single penny for his tune. matter of fact I have several of his crappy maps on my computer that I have D/L'ed from other people's EVOs and replaced with tunes I did. You wouldn't believe how he sets up the timing map. the only reason why you don't hear stories about more EVO's blowing up from his "toons" is because the stock EVO knock protection software is THAT good!

Anyone who is interested in learning how to tune their own car should check out the openecu.org forums and D/L the FREE open source ECUFlash software. For a mear $90.00 you can purchase a Tatric cable, which was developed by the people who pioneered the free ECUFlash software. These guys aren't trying to rip people off by charging hundreds of dollars for 'custom' tunes. Instead they developed the ECUFLash program for the do it yourself enthusiest which can read all the parameters on your EVO/suby ECU and lets you modify them. They don't charge ANYTHING for the program, its 100% free, all you need is a cable to connect your computer to the OBDII port in your car in order to use it. They sell the cable for $90 + shipping, or you can build your own for around $80.00. I choose to buy their cable and support the people who have given such an awesome tool to the EVO/Suby commniuty.

Then for another $25.00 you can get a program called EVOScan, from a guy named 'EVO 4 MAD' which will allow you to log everything your ECU see's at over 200/samples per sec. With these tools, which total only $115.00, and the free ECUFlash program you can modify all of your engine parimeters as many times as you like and tune until your heart is content.

Or if you aren't the 'do it yourself' kind of person go Sean Ivey or Turbo Trix and shell out 300-500 for a custom tune... your choice.

[alwaysinboost]

just for the record on my full weight 04 EVO GSR w/SSL and 76k miles on the stock untouched long block I ran 12.06 @ 113.11 with 93 octain on the stock turbo. Only mods are an ECUFlash done by yours truely, an ebay TBE & hallman MBC.

[C'DALERIDER]

Kudos to you for knowing how to tune and having a nice fast car. Def respectable 1/4 times and mph for so little money spent! Thanks for the input. IT is a business thou, and im sure Al and other tuners get much more money for using ecutec than a "free" program. Ecutec and Cobb do have afew advantages thou. Is it worth it? TO some, maybe.

[noclutch]

DynoFlash Al is a F'ing hack, I wouldn't give that b!tch a single penny for his tune. matter of fact I have several of his crappy maps on my computer that I have D/L'ed from other people's EVOs and replaced with tunes I did. You wouldn't believe how he sets up the timing map.



quoted fo' troof

[RyanG]

guess I'll chime in here. Andy was the only person to touch our car for tunes, in fact the ONLY person that tuned any of my customers cars. NO ONE is getting my business for tunes unless its him. Dynoflash wont see my business not because of his tunes (which I have seen a few and arent bad) but because of his additude. He is rude and thinks hios **** doesn't stink.
Andy was a very personable tuner and told you what was up, no bull ****.

I think I speak for everyone on the forums when I say we want Andy back. Personal issues aside, you have to admit he is one of the coolest dudes around and IMO THE best tuner in the area.

/story

[The Devils Z]

guess I'll chime in here. Andy was the only person to touch our car for tunes, in fact the ONLY person that tuned any of my customers cars. NO ONE is getting my business for tunes unless its him. Dynoflash wont see my business not because of his tunes (which I have seen a few and arent bad) but because of his additude. He is rude and thinks hios **** doesn't stink.
Andy was a very personable tuner and told you what was up, no bull ****.

I think I speak for everyone on the forums when I say we want Andy back. Personal issues aside, you have to admit he is one of the coolest dudes around and IMO THE best tuner in the area.

/story


I echo your statements .. I don't care what it takes or how much it takes .. get Andy back !

[karl]

so who is gonna be tuning at this lil tuning event?

[wrxman60]

well i actually talked to andy today, i think he is going to remain there and apparently they are open for buisness starting monday

[Honest_Bob]

Sweetness!

[Turbo_CitrusEs]

Sweet!!

[C'DALERIDER]

well i actually talked to andy today, i think he is going to remain there and apparently they are open for buisness starting monday

truth.

[C'DALERIDER]

I think I speak for everyone on the forums when I say we want Andy back. Personal issues aside, you have to admit he is one of the coolest dudes around and IMO THE best tuner in the area.

/story

then....you fellas should have got an awd dyno and hired Andy then. next.

[Ronin Tactical]

"I think I speak for everyone on the forums when I say we want Andy back."

Not me - sure, if you can get past the overly conservative grandma tunes, the idea that you'd better not dare question him and he'll make you feel like an idiot, despite your background, his ethics issues and the lack of business skill to keep a business afloat...sure. Good luck on that, hope it works out for you.

Sorry, but someone had to say it. Not everything falls into the hero worship category, and I find it funny that some car guys will follow a self-appointed "guru" around like a bunch of lost sheep.

[charliemopps24]

I'm not gonna get a tune that day but i'll be there to see all you guys and your cars. I have a buddy with a wrx and i'm gonna try to talk him into getting tuned after he gets his downpipe done. Anybody else ever get exhaust work done at Red Run?

[RyanG]

then....you fellas should have got an awd dyno and hired Andy then. next.

not sure what that exactly means.... but I would love to get one. But then again there is one about 5 minutes away from us.

[Ronin Tactical]

Meaning you should have Andy working for you.

Also, If my previous post seems harsh, everyone must realize that not everyone had glorious and wonderful experiences with Mr Brahy, so all of this hero worship makes me fairly sick.

[RyanG]

I said nothing about having Andy work for me so I don't know where that came from. I just stated that there are alot of people who like Andy's work. Saying that I should hire him is pretty silly imho.

Jim, I understand you had a bad experience with Andy and that has nothing to do with me.. its between you and him. Bad mouthing him isnt getting anything acomplished tho ya know?

[ozthunder]

BTW, Jim, PM me if you want to know a few good (one very good) LS1 tuner. Buying HPtuners, unless you wanna do it yourself, is a waste of $$.

[Ronin Tactical]

"Bad mouthing him isnt getting anything acomplished tho ya know?"

Neither is doing the opposite.

[foxracr10]

Is there still room for a WRX thats in need of some tuning???:eek: :eek:

[ToTheIX's]

yea i was wonderin if this is still on too ?

[Ronin Tactical]

The business is no longer "Xotic Motorsports", who started this topic, so you'll need to contact the new owners.

[C'DALERIDER]

It is still Xotic Motorsports. Just new owners, and Andy is tuning so give them a call ASAP if you want or need tuning before the dyno tune day. Dont wait if youre car is in bad need of a retune or such.

[S4toSTI]

Ok seems like a little confusion here.

[Ronin Tactical]

Nothing unusual for me - I thought the new owners were keeping their business name - my misunderstanding.

[foxracr10]

I wanna get tuned on the dyno tune day... what all do you need from me?