Thank you little baby jesus for AWD

[gpzjack]

Drove my new legacy for the first time on crappy roads today...the thing is unbelievable....I almost bought a mazda 3 and saw one totally stuck ...LOL I drove about an hour total this morning and the thing was awesome.

[teh DIRT]

dont count on it too much. AWD helps but it isnt a life saver. just a friendly reminder thats all.

:patiently awaits all of the "I crashed my subie" threads on nasioc:

[gpzjack]

LOL...ive had quite a few i crashed stories over at legacygt.com

Im a pretty good driver...i work for a real estate company and i have driven in every major storm of the last 10 yrs without getting stuck...and did it all in 2wd vehicles...i had a 2wd s-10 and was tooling around in one storm with everyone asking how i liked the 4wd. LOL

[MuddyREX]

4wd is like a condom. It helps 97% of the time.

[Renegade_]

AWD helps, tires are the rest. AWD doesn't do too much if you have snow tires that don't fit on your car :roll:

[gpzjack]

I love it when i see fwd cars with snows on the back....see it all the time. That and people with 4x4's with regular passenger car tires on and wonder why it sucks in the snow. I had a friend with a ford exploder and it sucked in the snow cause he had pep boys specials on it

[TTsupra911]

I love it when i see fwd cars with snows on the back....see it all the time. That and people with 4x4's with regular passenger car tires on and wonder why it sucks in the snow. I had a friend with a ford exploder and it sucked in the snow cause he had pep boys specials on it

it's highly recommended to have snow tires on all 4 corners if you are driving in the snow in a FWD vehicle. Think of it this way traction up front none in the rear.... what happenes when you go around a corner, that's right you guessed it, your rear end will be catching up to you quicker then you can react. If you go snow tires you must put them on all 4 corners.

[Renegade_]

Well, AWD isn't helping me get out of my parking spot. There is so much snow up here that I can't back out. Doesn't help that the snow plow went right behind me either...

And my ABS light went on... wtf. I can't check it either as my hood is frozen shut.

*edit* Broke the hood open (damn ice) and saw that my ABS sensor was basically a giant ball of snow. It snowed through my hood vent onto my ABS sensor and battery. Battery is fine just the ABS sensor I guess is cold.

[TTsupra911]

^ Yeah I started my car last night and right away I threw 2 codes. My secondary O2 sensor (more then likely ripped teh wiring out of it due to the snow) and then something about Engine Oil Pressure Sensor/Switch Circuit Low Voltage ... now that one scares me.... I know I have plenty of oil, I'm just a little worried that my oil pump might be freaking out...

[05Accent]

i still wish i had AWD

[DropTopChevy]

i still wish i had AWD

Me too :(

[gpzjack]

I never really wanted a 4wd vehicle...I have always had 2wd trucks and have only rarely had a need for 4wd....i bought my legacy because i like the car and the awd was like a bonus for me. I am really liking it. I would really like to have gotten the turbo but "F" putting premium in every fillup.

[Gorilla Unit 33]

Jack went by your place last night at 2am on my way home from a friends and saw your car in the driveway. I was like to myself wtf is this mother ****er doing home if i had AWD id be out eating **** with my car in this. lol then i remembered im not exactly as OLD as you lol jp. nor do i have a family to feed etc etc...

[Renegade_]

^ Yeah I started my car last night and right away I threw 2 codes. My secondary O2 sensor (more then likely ripped teh wiring out of it due to the snow) and then something about Engine Oil Pressure Sensor/Switch Circuit Low Voltage ... now that one scares me.... I know I have plenty of oil, I'm just a little worried that my oil pump might be freaking out...
I gotta let the car run and let the engine bay heat up for a bit later - I let it idle for like 20 minutes just so **** doesn't freeze. The snow around the ABS module was like solid. After it idled for a bit I got the majority of it off but there is still some junk all over it.

[Raven18940]

Eh, I've got snow tires all around it's great in the snow.

[Renegade_]

Eh, I've got snow tires all around it's great in the snow.
I got snow tires sitting next to me. The sidewall is too tall and will hit the spring perch :cry:

[gpzjack]

Jack went by your place last night at 2am on my way home from a friends and saw your car in the driveway. I was like to myself wtf is this mother ****er doing home if i had AWD id be out eating **** with my car in this. lol then i remembered im not exactly as OLD as you lol jp. nor do i have a family to feed etc etc...


Haa...i was out last night...i got in around 10:30....I was having a blast in the parking lot at my work...its crazy how this thing grabs.

[TROLL]

Eh, I've got snow tires all around it's great in the snow.

you cant get traction in the summer but you can in the snow? :-p

and to all the AWD guys out there... yes it can help on accelleration and control but when it comes to stopping our cars are made the same way as every other one out there... 4 brakes and 4 wheels/tires. overconfidence can be a dangerous thing.

[STI_wagon]

4wd is like a condom. It helps 97% of the time.

Or AWD is like Cocaine, you think you are invincible(sp) while you are on it.

AWD is great for grip in snow. But if you get on ice, yeah, that's bad mmmmmK.



and to all the AWD guys out there... yes it can help on accelleration and control but when it comes to stopping our cars are made the same way as every other one out there... 4 brakes and 4 wheels/tires. overconfidence can be a dangerous thing.

That pretty much sums up.

[Honest_Bob]

I'm lovin the wagon with snow tires. Awesomeness. Gotta agree with Troll, **** can get hairy pretty quickly if your doing something stupid.

[gpzjack]

I remember driving home one night in the snow in my monte carlo with bald tires...taking my time...sitting at a stop sign and a whacker in a 4x4 slides into me....i agree...good for going..but the same for stopping. LOL

[Raven18940]

you cant get traction in the summer but you can in the snow? :-p

I just expect to not be able to use full throttle. :-p The car accelerates well enough, but more importantly it stops and turns as good as any AWD. :)

[Keyan]

Saw an Eagle Talon AWD stuck in the snow today. When he put it in reverse to try and get out of the bank, his rear tires spun but his fronts didn't. Weird.

[gpzjack]

I saw an idiot in a newer monte carlo trying to go up springfield road...slight incline...he had it all the way to the floor and the car was all over the place...people are stupid

[CHAOS]

345 ftlbs + all season tires = sideways sti.

[cszakolczai]

FWD spec V and crappy tires = sideways Nissan into curb and cracked rim and whole front end smashed up.

[twistedlanes]

I wonder what buses have cuz we didn't seem too have any problems. The el train did though, they couldn't make it up the hill so we had to go the other way, and wait for a different train.

[Raven18940]

I wonder what buses have cuz we didn't seem too have any problems. The el train did though, they couldn't make it up the hill so we had to go the other way, and wait for a different train.

Buses have a massive amount of weight pushing down on a relatively small contact patch. This means they can cut through all but the deepest snow with only 2WD and an open diff.

I saw an idiot in a newer monte carlo trying to go up springfield road...slight incline...he had it all the way to the floor and the car was all over the place...people are stupid
more power = BETTER!!!