34 degree car wash

[CleanNeon98]

just washed my car, its 34 degrees out. got all of the road salt and crap off, but when i went to dry it, there was a thin sheet of ice on some spots. is this bad? i dont see how its different than ice on the car in general, but just making sure. looked pretty cool

[Broken5hift]

there seriously has to be a hidden camera in here somewhere. am i on hidden camera? seriously.

[CleanNeon98]

there seriously has to be a hidden camera in here somewhere. am i on hidden camera? seriously.

now was that really necessary?

[1988 Olds]

Ice on the car that way is very bad. It's different from the ice that comes from a ice/snow storm. Go out there with some hot water and try and get it off if you can. It may mess your paint up depending on how long it's on there for.

[CleanNeon98]

Its already gone, but how is it worse? Its just water, not soapy stuff
Results of a quick wash
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/7320/bakgroundfn0.jpg

BTW this is using my new camera, and does anyone know a good place to repaint my back bumper?

[Renegade_]

When water freezes it expands. However, as you notice it sticks to the car. The water will stick to the paint when it freezes forcing it to expand, thus could ruin paint. This is I guess how it would work, although I am not sure.

[D Money]

Dude your fine. I washed my car the other day with buckets of hot soapy water.

[RayArroyo]

i have been doing alot of research on this subject and know that having car wash water freeze on your car has a substantial effect on vtec. causing the vtec bearings to wear uneven slowing down the vtec spool up and eventually damaging vtec all together. it is reccomended when this happens to open the vtec titanium seals and use a hair dryer to dry it back up. just when putting it back together make sure you use a new honda oem vtec headgasket.

[Renegade_]

And of course it is common sense to flush your VTEC fluid when you do all of the above.

[CleanNeon98]

i have been doing alot of research on this subject and know that having car wash water freeze on your car has a substantial effect on vtec. causing the vtec bearings to wear uneven slowing down the vtec spool up and eventually damaging vtec all together. it is reccomended when this happens to open the vtec titanium seals and use a hair dryer to dry it back up. just when putting it back together make sure you use a new honda oem vtec headgasket.

I dont see how washing the exterior effects the interior, but I dont have vtec

[RayArroyo]

I dont see how washing the exterior effects the interior, but I dont have vtec

i would look a little closer you probbably will find it

[BlackBulletTSi]

bwahahahahaha thats great but I think yea it would cause damage

[CleanNeon98]

i would look a little closer you probbably will find it

No, I dont see that as being serious at all. If I hosed down my motor, MAYBE it would be relevant

[STI_wagon]

i have been doing alot of research on this subject and know that having car wash water freeze on your car has a substantial effect on vtec. causing the vtec bearings to wear uneven slowing down the vtec spool up and eventually damaging vtec all together. it is reccomended when this happens to open the vtec titanium seals and use a hair dryer to dry it back up. just when putting it back together make sure you use a new honda oem vtec headgasket.

:rotfl: :rofl:

nice..

[BradC]

LMf'inAO

[1988 Olds]

LOL Ray, I thought me being a jack ass was going to be enough but I guess not.

[dt98gsr]

now was that really necessary?

I'm sorry, but was this thread really necessary. You answered your own question in the first post.

...i dont see how its different than ice on the car in general...

Sure your car/paint is probably better off clean on a warm day without ice on it, but if your car is DD or it sees snow and ice how is the frozen water from washing your car any worse then the snow or ice? If anything it should be cleaner water.

[Broken5hift]

uh vtec is controlled by the car sucking in wind and spooling it through the vtec compacitor, hence vtec mode. if the car is covered in ice or snow the vtec wont be able to spool correctly due to improper air flow

[Vypurr2]

You guys know that you can just buy a vtech warmer right? No problems!

http://www.turbobits.co.uk/acatalog/dynotune_105_2lb_nitrous_oxide_bottle_warmer_kit_3 20.jpg

[RayArroyo]

You guys know that you can just buy a vtech warmer right? No problems!

http://www.turbobits.co.uk/acatalog/dynotune_105_2lb_nitrous_oxide_bottle_warmer_kit_3 20.jpg

yeah but then the VGT'S go sky rocket high causing bearing faliure as well. what most of my customers do is redirect their airvent ducts to the vtec capasitor and when they turn on the heat it simmulates real life summer temps on the vtec system making it more durable and able to concentrate quicker.

[CleanNeon98]

or maybe vtec just changes the way the valves open and close? stop being stupid please. thank you

[RayArroyo]

or maybe vtec just changes the way the valves open and close? stop being stupid please. thank you

hey im only going by what i read in a book. as a vendor i would not make fun of anyone or post anything stupid. thats not professional

[CleanNeon98]

hey im only going by what i read in a book. as a vendor i would not make fun of anyone or post anything stupid. thats not professional

I agree...but you are still doing it for some reason...also, I always thought it was professional to type with proper punctuation. The paint is fine, the ice melted, the car is clean; END OF TOPIC!

[05Accent]

Its already gone, but how is it worse? Its just water, not soapy stuff
Results of a quick wash
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/7320/bakgroundfn0.jpg

BTW this is using my new camera, and does anyone know a good place to repaint my back bumper?

shocker stick was so two years ago.. :mrgreen:

[Black Jesus]

just washed my car, its 34 degrees out. got all of the road salt and crap off, but when i went to dry it, there was a thin sheet of ice on some spots. is this bad? i dont see how its different than ice on the car in general, but just making sure. looked pretty cool
Black Jesus does not approve

[blu4door]

good god you really are a maroon.

[Sberk06]

I agree...but you are still doing it for some reason...also, I always thought it was professional to type with proper punctuation. The paint is fine, the ice melted, the car is clean; END OF TOPIC!

i'm still trying to figure out the point of this post.. you first said is it bad, then when everyone said "yes", you got real defensive and said "no its not" "how could it be" end of story"

by the way, shocker symbols are sweet.. i want to get one.

[EvlEgl]

Or maybe you guys just like Riding this kids Dick WAYY To much

Every post I read where ClanNeon says something you ALL rip his head off...Its seriously childish...and you all know your doing it to be dickheads.

Ray that **** isnt necessary at all, We are all grown ass men and you need to stop eating this kid alive. How do you know somewhere down the line he could be a potential customer...and your acting like a jackass to him if he ever wants work done on something and has heard you do good work hes gonna remember that you acted like a jackass to him and wont give you his business. Sit there and tell me you wouldn't care if he gave you business or not..I know If I'm running my own shop I want all the money I can make.

Call me whatever you will I really don't care...You wanna know why this place has turned to ****.

It's bull**** posts by members when someone asks a question, Werent you ever taught no question is a stupid question...How is anyone ever supposed to learn...Not EVERYONE has common sense.

Grow the **** up.

[Sberk06]

and just take the back bumper off the car and have MAACO do it, its not like you have a custom paint.

[Sberk06]

Or maybe you guys just like Riding this kids Dick WAYY To much

Every post I read where ClanNeon says something you ALL rip his head off...Its seriously childish...and you all know your doing it to be dickheads.

Ray that **** isnt necessary at all, We are all grown ass men and you need to stop eating this kid alive. How do you know somewhere down the line he could be a potential customer...and your acting like a jackass to him if he ever wants work done on something and has heard you do good work hes gonna remember that you acted like a jackass to him and wont give you his business. Sit there and tell me you wouldn't care if he gave you business or not..I know If I'm running my own shop I want all the money I can make.

Call me whatever you will I really don't care...You wanna know why this place has turned to ****.

It's bull**** posts by members when someone asks a question, Werent you ever taught no question is a stupid question...How is anyone ever supposed to learn...Not EVERYONE has common sense.

Grow the **** up.


agreed about everyone talking down on people, but some of the stuff ray was saying seemed like it made some sense and most of it wasnt in a asshole way. but then again i have turbo, not vtec soo what do i know about that stuff.

[Broken5hift]

ask a stupid question get a stupid answer

[blu4door]

Werent you ever taught no question is a stupid question....


You were lied to.

[EvlEgl]

ask a stupid question get a stupid answer

Maybe your just ignorant to the fact that Maybe he doesn't think its a stupid question.

And Are you kidding me? There's no such thing as Vtech seals or Fluid or a Vtech Headgasket.

Let me go replace my blinker fluid today :screwy:

[Sberk06]

i didnt really read what they said.. isnt vtec basically just something that triggerrs on at a certain rpm and the computer can adjust cams timing and also electronically adjust the valves.? im not really sure.. i havent been into hondas in years...

[RayArroyo]

1st of all , i met this kid several times and have answered his questions legitimatley on many occasions i think he is a great kid. He knows im just playing with him and being a vendor does not mean i have to act like a mormon and im not allowed to have fun. if he has a problem with what i replied, he can pm me and i will edited my post.


ps vtec and washing cars in the cold dont do anything.

[HatchSurfer3]

i have been doing alot of research on this subject and know that having car wash water freeze on your car has a substantial effect on vtec. causing the vtec bearings to wear uneven slowing down the vtec spool up and eventually damaging vtec all together. it is reccomended when this happens to open the vtec titanium seals and use a hair dryer to dry it back up. just when putting it back together make sure you use a new honda oem vtec headgasket.

hahahahaha im sorry that was hilarious

[04 Turbo Spec]

Or maybe you guys just like Riding this kids Dick WAYY To much

Every post I read where ClanNeon says something you ALL rip his head off...Its seriously childish...and you all know your doing it to be dickheads.

Ray that **** isnt necessary at all, We are all grown ass men and you need to stop eating this kid alive. How do you know somewhere down the line he could be a potential customer...and your acting like a jackass to him if he ever wants work done on something and has heard you do good work hes gonna remember that you acted like a jackass to him and wont give you his business. Sit there and tell me you wouldn't care if he gave you business or not..I know If I'm running my own shop I want all the money I can make.

Call me whatever you will I really don't care...You wanna know why this place has turned to ****.

It's bull**** posts by members when someone asks a question, Werent you ever taught no question is a stupid question...How is anyone ever supposed to learn...Not EVERYONE has common sense.

Grow the **** up.

Well if clean neon did have such stupid post no one would rip on him. Seriously do a search for all threads started by him they are all stupid and pointless and most of the time in the wrong section

[Broken5hift]

Maybe your just ignorant to the fact that Maybe he doesn't think its a stupid question.

And Are you kidding me? There's no such thing as Vtech seals or Fluid or a Vtech Headgasket.

Let me go replace my blinker fluid today :screwy:

if you thought my vtec post was serious then you need help and probably dont belong on the internet captain serious.

as far as being ignorant goes i could call you the same for judging my posts, so why don't you go try and listen for tree's falling in the woods when no ones around Confucius

[CleanNeon98]

1st of all , i met this kid several times and have answered his questions legitimatley on many occasions i think he is a great kid. He knows im just playing with him and being a vendor does not mean i have to act like a mormon and im not allowed to have fun. if he has a problem with what i replied, he can pm me and i will edited my post.


ps vtec and washing cars in the cold dont do anything.
you never met me..we had a few AIM convos when I had my neon..thats it
Or maybe you guys just like Riding this kids Dick WAYY To much

Every post I read where ClanNeon says something you ALL rip his head off...Its seriously childish...and you all know your doing it to be dickheads.

Ray that **** isnt necessary at all, We are all grown ass men and you need to stop eating this kid alive. How do you know somewhere down the line he could be a potential customer...and your acting like a jackass to him if he ever wants work done on something and has heard you do good work hes gonna remember that you acted like a jackass to him and wont give you his business. Sit there and tell me you wouldn't care if he gave you business or not..I know If I'm running my own shop I want all the money I can make.

Call me whatever you will I really don't care...You wanna know why this place has turned to ****.

It's bull**** posts by members when someone asks a question, Werent you ever taught no question is a stupid question...How is anyone ever supposed to learn...Not EVERYONE has common sense.

Grow the **** up.
:thumbup: ...and after these little arguments, TROLL sends ME Pms telling me to clean up my act, while meantime, everyone else is instigating **** in every post. People need to seriously grow up, and learn to answer questions with answers, not smart-alleck remarks and insults!
i'm still trying to figure out the point of this post.. you first said is it bad, then when everyone said "yes", you got real defensive and said "no its not" "how could it be" end of story"

by the way, shocker symbols are sweet.. i want to get one.
I wanted to know if it was bad...i never answered my own question, but was rather given 10 stupid answers and looked elsewhere for advice. I have another yellow shocker just like that same size n all layin in my room...pm me i can mail it to you free of charge
shocker stick was so two years ago.. :mrgreen:
Im a bit old fashioned
and just take the back bumper off the car and have MAACO do it, its not like you have a custom paint.
I dont know how well the quality would be....plus im not sure they will get the color 100% on, and i heard sometimes they have to "blend" the panels together
i didnt really read what they said.. isnt vtec basically just something that triggerrs on at a certain rpm and the computer can adjust cams timing and also electronically adjust the valves.? im not really sure.. i havent been into hondas in years...
Correct

[Broken5hift]

I dont know how well the quality would be....plus im not sure they will get the color 100% on, and i heard sometimes they have to "blend" the panels together

they only blend the panels when the panels are on older more worn painted cars. your car and your paint look good enough to not have to worry about this.

and i answered that without one bit of ignorance

[RayArroyo]

you never met me..we had a few AIM convos when I had my neon..thats it

yeah like alot of aim conversations and i thought i met you at one of our meets in Huntingdon Valley?
just please do yourself a favor and think a little before you make a thread and people will leave you alone, i know some of the things replyed to you sometimes get a little out of hand but you put it on yourself.

[CleanNeon98]

Well if clean neon did have such stupid post no one would rip on him. Seriously do a search for all threads started by him they are all stupid and pointless and most of the time in the wrong section

Maybe people need to learn to have controlled fun. I try to enjoy my time here, and contribute to the boards as much as possible. Last year I wanted to do a fundraiser for the club, made a thread, got some answers, and it died. Seems as if people here just want to play around and not do any work.

[CleanNeon98]

yeah like alot of aim conversations and i thought i met you at one of our meets in Huntingdon Valley?

but who cares

I came to one meet there with my dad, parked my car (was still stock), and went to play pool...came out to find a bunch of Subarus, felt outa place, and left.

[CleanNeon98]

yeah like alot of aim conversations and i thought i met you at one of our meets in Huntingdon Valley?
just please do yourself a favor and think a little before you make a thread and people will leave you alone, i know some of the things replyed to you sometimes get a little out of hand but you put it on yourself.

This thread was asking a legitemate question. Is it bad to wash your car when its 34 degrees out (close to freezing). I couldnt seem to get a legitemate answer..only little remarks.

[RayArroyo]

I came to one meet there with my dad, parked my car (was still stock), and went to play pool...came out to find a bunch of Subarus, felt outa place, and left.


also to answer your question about water freezing on your paint, you can put some swirl marks on the paint if you are scrubbing the car and the soap on it is frozen as it scratches the paint.

[CleanNeon98]

they only blend the panels when the panels are on older more worn painted cars. your car and your paint look good enough to not have to worry about this.

and i answered that without one bit of ignorance

Its really not that hard. This is a club, and members should help other members, no matter how rediculous the question may sound. I know cars, but I dont know them well, and joined here to meet fellow enthusiasts and learn some things, but all ive gotten are jokes

P.S. on my neon when I wanted to paint the wings west front kit, the guy at maaco got into some blending BS and siad it would be about 500 dollars..does anyone here work at a shop that can help out/has experience?

[CleanNeon98]

also to answer your question about water freezing on your paint, you can put some swirl marks on the paint if you are scrubbing the car and the soap on it is frozen as it scratches the paint.

Luckily, it was clean water that froze..basically happened between me hosing off the soap and going to get my shammy (chamois???) to dry it off.

[Broken5hift]

Its really not that hard. This is a club, and members should help other members, no matter how rediculous the question may sound. I know cars, but I dont know them well, and joined here to meet fellow enthusiasts and learn some things, but all ive gotten are jokes

P.S. on my neon when I wanted to paint the wings west front kit, the guy at maaco got into some blending BS and siad it would be about 500 dollars..does anyone here work at a shop that can help out/has experience?

if your paints worn it may need to be blended alittle, my friend repaints cars at a body shop and didnt have to tweak the same kit on my buddies neon. but his car was white. my advice to you is to shop around and when you go to different shops just ask a basic question, how much. dont mention the other places said you had to blend and what not.

theres a auto body place in bensalem on bensalem blvd, i cant think of their name, they did my buddies neon three times after it kept getting stolen an what not. i'd try and go to them

[RayArroyo]

Luckily, it was clean water that froze..basically happened between me hosing off the soap and going to get my shammy (chamois???) to dry it off.

this may sound stupid but to wash my car i use hot water in the winter. i put hot water in the bucket soap it up , rinse the bucket and fill it with hot water rinse the car with it and drive it my garage to dry. or i leave the car running while i wash it with the heat on full blast and no water freezes!!

[CleanNeon98]

this may sound stupid but to wash my car i use hot water in the winter. i put hot water in the bucket soap it up , rinse the bucket and fill it with hot water rinse the car with it and drive it my garage to dry. or i leave the car running while i wash it with the heat on full blast and no water freezes!!

Sounds legit...if that was the answer I would have gotten from you in the first post you made, we wouldnt be on page 3 mentoring each other about forum use.

[RayArroyo]

Sounds legit...if that was the answer I would have gotten from you in the first post you made, we wouldnt be on page 3 mentoring each other about forum use.

yeah but then i wouldnt have been able to kill 45 minutes, lol now i only have 2 hours left to go home.

[CleanNeon98]

yeah but then i wouldnt have been able to kill 45 minutes, lol now i only have 2 hours left to go home.

no customers? il keep ya busy...let me bring down my civic i want a full detail, but if you mess up my VTEC youre paying for it

[Black Jesus]

this may sound stupid but to wash my car i use hot water in the winter. i put hot water in the bucket soap it up , rinse the bucket and fill it with hot water rinse the car with it and drive it my garage to dry. or i leave the car running while i wash it with the heat on full blast and no water freezes!!

Black Jesus approves

[RayArroyo]

no customers? il keep ya busy...let me bring down my civic i want a full detail, but if you mess up my VTEC youre paying for it

lol come on down !!!!!!!!!! ill install a space heater in the engine bay for you hahahahahaha

[CobaltGrl]

there seriously has to be a hidden camera in here somewhere. am i on hidden camera? seriously.


Im sorry, but this post made me laugh....like a lot. :mrgreen: :lol:

[CleanNeon98]

lol come on down !!!!!!!!!! ill install a space heater in the engine bay for you hahahahahaha

Can you install more torque?

EDIT: can you install torque?

EDIT #2: can you make this thing move!!!

[RayArroyo]

Can you install more torque?

EDIT: can you install torque?

EDIT #2: can you make this thing move!!!

jump on aim im sure we can do something !!!!!!!

[CleanNeon98]

jump on aim im sure we can do something !!!!!!!

Do I get type R stickers to seal the deal?

[RayArroyo]

Do I get type R stickers to seal the deal?

ill do one better ill give you type z stickers.

[CleanNeon98]

ill do one better ill give you type z stickers.

az inz zorro?

[Honest_Bob]

:rotfl: this thread rocks.

[CleanNeon98]

:rotfl: this thread rocks.

yea it does...ray was nice enough to apoligize lol

[Broken5hift]

thats cause rays a bitch. he wouldn't even buy the glowing red LED exhaust tip. lmfao.

[turbo4g63]

i am not washing my car for a while, its just not worth it right now, every time i see a bunch of people at the car wash i think to myself, what a bunch of suckers, i was gonna wash my car along w/ everyone else last weekend then i thought, with my luck it'll snow or rain within 3 days and i was right...plus the brine on the road gets all over the car anyways.....

and if its cold out side you run the risk of your weather stripping freezing to your doors, and when you open the door....well torn weather stripping

[TROLL]

this thread is totally exhausted...

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