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slavetothemuzic
06-07-2005, 10:54 AM
When it comes to cars, it's easy to figure out what men are after. It's women who are complicated.

June 7, 2005; Posted: 10:35 a.m. EDT (1435 GMT)
By Peter Valdes-Dapena, CNN/Money staff writer

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - A look at marketing data showing which cars men prefer and which ones women like revealed something I'd long suspected.

While men may, indeed, be from Mars, women are from someplace much more complex and difficult to figure out. Maybe Boston.

The figures, supplied by NOP World, a market research firm, show specific car models and an index number representing how many men -- or women -- intend to buy that car and no other compared to the percentage of their gender-mates who intend to buy the average car.

The most striking thing about NOP's data is how easy it is to figure out what guys want.

The Porsche 911 -- the most overwhelmingly male passenger car -- has an "Index Male to Total" of 214.3, for example. That's more than double the average. The car's "Index Female to Total," on the other hand, is just 14.3.

It's surprising the 911 doesn't grow hair on its hood and eat Kispy Kreme for breakfast.

Other cars at the top of the masculinity dial include the exotic Ford GT supercar, Maserati Spyder, Jaguar XK8 sports car and the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution.

You get the idea: If it's very fast, awfully fast, terribly fast or way, way too fast, guys like it. Also, they tend to be expensive.

The one common trait among cars that women like is that they are not expensive.

The most womanly car, with a "Female" index of 200, is the yet-unreleased Pontiac G6 convertible. (You go, Oprah! Plus, it's a convertible.)

Actually, the G6 has a wide lead in the "girl car" category. The closest other passenger cars are the Suzuki Forenza with an index of 150 and the Volkswagen New Beetle with an index of 147.6.

How do women decide which cars to buy?

"If you picture a fraction with cost as the numerator then, as the denominator, you have things like reliability, performance..." said Doug Scott, NOP World's automotive analyst.

He went on with a long list of factors.

To sum it up, women add up the good things, subtract the bad things, then compare the result with the cost of the car. Then they think carefully about the result.

Men, it seems, just add stuff up then wonder if they can afford it without having to switch to domestic beer.

If a typical male mind -- take mine, since I'm evidently not doing much with it -- were expanded to the size of the United States of America, that portion of the mind dedicated to responding to the word "enough" would be the size of a bumper pool table in a New Jersey bar.

That portion of the brain dedicated to responding to the word "more," on the other hand, would occupy everything west of the Rockies, including Hawaii and the territories of American Samoa and Guam.

That is why the Mustang GT has four headlights. Not because men want more headlights, but because those two extra headlights -- Ford calls them "fog lights" but, really, they're headlights -- are only available on the V8-powered Mustang GT.

The male driver of a V6-powered Mustang, with its 210-horsepower engine, clearly has "enough" power. Probably more than enough.

But when stopped at a red light next to a four-lighted 300-horsepower Mustang GT it is immediately obvious to everyone that the other driver has "more."

This is the same reason that Dodge has greatly increased the size of the "Hemi" badge on its cars for the 2006 model year. The larger badge makes it very easy to see, at some distance, who has "more."

Dodge has stated outright that it designs and markets cars for men. So it has given us the Dodge Magnum, a muscle-car station wagon. It has also given us the new Dodge Charger, a muscle-car family sedan with four doors, roomy back seats and a nice trunk.

Clever, those Dodge boys. Clearly, they understand that, even though they are marketing cars to men, most men don't just go out and buy cars on their own. They still have to get the thumbs-up from someone else. Someone who knows what a "numerator" is and how to use it.

Women. Always making stuff complicated.

Top 10 cars for men

1. Porsche 911 coupe, $70,095 - $193,765

2. Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution, $28,504 - $35,274

3. Ford GT, $143,345

4. Volkswagen Phaeton, $68,905 - $104,455

5. BMW 6-series convertible, $76,900

6. Jaguar XK8 coupe, $69,830

7. Maserati Spyder, $92,302 - $96,465

8. Mercedes CL, $96,720 - $132,320

9. BMW 6-series coupe, $69,900

10. Porsche 911 convertible, $79,895 - $141,995

Top 10 cars for women

1. Pontiac G6 convertible, (Not yet available)

2. Suzuki Forenza, $13,994 - $18,494

3. Volkswagen New Beetle convertible, $22,940 - $27,100

4. Volkswagen New Beetle, $17,185 - $27,100

6. Pontiac Sunfire coupe, $11,460 - $15,770

7. Volvo XC70, $36,080

8. Mitsubishi Eclipse convertible, $25,744 - $31,544

9. Chrysler PT Cruiser convertible, $20,045 - $29,120

10. Kia Rio sedan, $10,535 - $13,065

Source (http://www.cnn.com/2005/AUTOS/funonwheels/06/06/male_cars/index.html)

chrism
06-07-2005, 11:00 AM
i know i bought my car out of sheer ego!.....but ofcourse had to get the wife's permission first....

MuddyREX
06-07-2005, 11:04 AM
Pontiac G6.......WTF.

97TSi
06-07-2005, 11:16 AM
I find it funny that the EVO is above the GT.

ps - I don't see an STi on that list :finga: wait, sorry, OT :(

2k5_tC
06-07-2005, 11:37 AM
wtf! i definitely am not in that list with those other women where's that emoticon of someone barfing when you need it?

wrx_snobordr
06-07-2005, 11:46 AM
PT Cruiser convertible and the kia rio????? :eek: :thumbdow: :screwy:

What women did they talk to!?!?!?

Twin_Cam
06-07-2005, 12:37 PM
What could possibly be more manly than a 427 Cobra? Nothing. Why is it not on that list? And Miata isn't under chick cars? Chicks can't get enough of the Miata. That list is really bad.

slavetothemuzic
06-07-2005, 01:34 PM
What women did they talk to!?!?!?I'm assuming average women and not auto enthusiasts.

slavetothemuzic
06-07-2005, 01:37 PM
What could possibly be more manly than a 427 Cobra?Eh...I don't consider the Cobra the "most manly" car ever. I'd have to go with a 69 camaro rs/ss for that title. Of course that is based on combination looks/power, not just one or the other, and certainly not at all on handling. lol

SexyDSM95
06-07-2005, 01:43 PM
Wow women suck....I know my top pick would be a nice Evo or Poopra. Sure the Porsche...but a 911. An Aston Martin just to say I have one though...

slavetothemuzic
06-07-2005, 01:48 PM
Wow women suck....I know my top pick would be a nice Evo or Poopra. Sure the Porsche...but a 911. An Aston Martin just to say I have one though...The poopra would be a great choice. One of my favorites. I respect Porsches, but I can't realy say I "want" one. http://www.aaroncarr.com/images/smileys/dunno2.gif

And the EVO is definitely #1 on my list for handling/power. Maybe for my next car...who knows.

xEJ20x
06-07-2005, 02:06 PM
Why am I not seeing Saleen S281 on there! :furious:

xEJ20x
06-07-2005, 02:08 PM
Women. Always making stuff complicated.


Words of wisdom Lloydd. Words - of - wisdom.

:mrgreen:

slavetothemuzic
06-07-2005, 02:19 PM
Women. Always making stuff complicated.


Words of wisdom Lloydd. Words - of - wisdom.

:mrgreen:Stop trying to get me in trouble. It was the writer that said it. :finga:

Aaron
06-07-2005, 02:33 PM
Oprah is like Hitler in many, many ways.

SexyDSM95
06-07-2005, 02:57 PM
Oprah is like Hitler in many, many ways.
I think her and Dr. Phil get it on...seriously

But yea women are stupid, I agree...

wrx_snobordr
06-07-2005, 06:59 PM
What women did they talk to!?!?!?I'm assuming average women and not auto enthusiasts.

sounds more like they talked to a group of woman who work at mcdonalds.... Seriously, every girl i know into cars or not has a car they think is "cute" and want. Nowhere do you see a girl who has a choice driving many of the cars on that list. I smell some funny business, it kinda looks like those car companies paid those people to put their cars on the list. alot of the cars on that list are the companies poor sellers.I mean think about it, if they arent "car girls" then how do they know about the pontiac g6, **** i consider myself a car guy and i barley now what the deal is with that car. People who dont know or care about cars learn about them AFTER they come out.

the mike
06-07-2005, 07:04 PM
heh, the #2 car... :mrgreen:

Aaron
06-07-2005, 07:07 PM
Keep gloating while you can, traitor :P

This only goes to prove that the eclipse is, in fact, a chic car :finga:

slavetothemuzic
06-07-2005, 07:22 PM
sounds more like they talked to a group of woman who work at mcdonalds.... Seriously, every girl i know into cars or not has a car they think is "cute" and want. I know my g/f doesn't want/care about "cute". She just wants reliable and economical. True, she isn't representative of all women, but I guess it was women like her who were talked to. http://www.aaroncarr.com/images/smileys/dunno2.gif

MuddyREX
06-07-2005, 09:21 PM
heh, the #2 car... :mrgreen:

Hmmmmm, aren't you selling yours????? :wiggle:

9 Ball
06-13-2005, 04:01 PM
I love this post. :mrgreen:

I think most of the women that were polled, were not auto enthusiasts. Think about it gentlemen… how many women do you know (not including the lovely ladies of TST) are heavily into cars? Oprah was giving away G6s on her show a few months back, and that’s likely why the G6 is so popular among women. I think women use the word “cute” many times when describing an automobile. Ladies think my car is “cute.” But men would never use the word “cute” when describing an EVO or Porsche.

With us (men) it’s a different thing. We look at the open road like a battle field, and automobiles for us are like weapons of war. You must choose wisely! Think about it… why is the Porsche and EVO at the top of our list? Because if you own one of these cars, your survival rate on the open road increases dramatically. You’ve got the balls to take on almost any car on the road and potentially defeat your opponent. “Ish” talking is not a problem with either of these cars. Make eye contact in one of these cars, and you can terrify your opponent into “stop light submission” before it turns green.

Women are thinking with their heart, “Wow, that car is really cute.”

But us men are like, “Damn, if I had a Porsche or an EVO, I could kick everybody’s azz.”