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[EvlEgl]

So We all like to call a car that has a ridiculously huge wing altezza lights and neons underneath a ricer...Fine whatever the guy likes to put that on his car, and I'm not gonna lie I've seen it and laughed and been at the track and laughed at certain cars but honestly it seems like everything done nowadays is considered "rice" if its not a go fast mod.

Take for example My car, 1990 Eagle Talon Stock Bumpers,Lights,Interior with 16 inch 5 spoke Logics and then all of my supporting go fast mods. Not rice by any means...But I have 5 stickers on my car Does this qualify me as a ricer? I would sure as hell hope not

What do you people consider "Rice" In the thread about the 10k Bulbs they were calling them rice...why? Because there brighter bulbs to light up the road a little better? Maybe he didn't have them adjusted right and thats why the cop gave him **** for it...Because I'll be honest Alot of new cars that have HID's nowadays have obnoxiously bright lights and thats from the factory and dont even get me started on SUV's.

So lets hear it. Why does everyone jump on someone right away if there trying to make there car more cosmetically appealing to themselves. Do you really care that much about there car? You don't drive it...

[DropTopChevy]

10K HID's are blue like seriously blue not white not light blue or purple they are blue look at the kids avatar. Rice is an untasteful modification in my mind.

Straight from urbandictionary.com

1. rice

An automobile that has been equipped with gawdy, unnesecary accessories, such as 3' high spoilers, loud and/or repulsive paint job and body work. Owners of such automobiles feel that these accessories make their car the best in the world, when in fact it is not.

That Prelude over there is nice, but this here Civic ain't nothin but a ric mobile

2. rice

v. To take a ****ty jap car, add some Vtec stickers, spoiler, and **** up the camber.

I just spent $12000 ricing up a $8000 piece of ****.

3. rice

Race Inspired Cosmetic Enhancements. (R.I.C.E.)Parts put on cars to make them look fast, when they have no internal tuning, and are actually slow as hell. Parts usually consist of excessivley angular bodykits, large rear spoilers, neon, sponsor stickers, chrome rims, fake "coffee can" exhaust tips, and loud, annoying paint jobs and/or vynils. Sometimes parts are do-it-yourself installed and are basically duct taped to the car. Most commonly known for being done to Honda Civics, but can also be done to slow domestic vehicles, such as a Chevy Cavalier, etc.

"Yo dog, did you see the Civic that guy was rollin' in? it was so rice."

"This guy's got nothin' under the hood, it's just rice. Smoke him."

"What a riceboy, I bet he thinks his neon adds 50 bhp!"

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rice

[EvlEgl]

Understood...But I dont look at a cars headlights to determine how fast ti is...Therefore I could give two ****s how high of a temperature his light bulbs go or what color they are. To call a car rice b/c of blue headlights is bull**** because FACTORY c6 corvettes have blue tinted HIDS I would know I've seen Many on the road. So do most Mercedes and The new Acuras they ALL have Bright ass blue tinted HIDS

[Intercooled T]

yea, but those cars look nice in stock form.

sorry, had to say it. i don't think civics and cars of that caliber look nice w/ HIDs...

[DropTopChevy]

Understood...But I dont look at a cars headlights to determine how fast ti is...Therefore I could give two ****s how high of a temperature his light bulbs go or what color they are. To call a car rice b/c of blue headlights is bull**** because FACTORY c6 corvettes have blue tinted HIDS I would know I've seen Many on the road. So do most Mercedes and The new Acuras they ALL have Bright ass blue tinted HIDS

I have personally driven a C6 corvette and they are nowhere near 10000K The color the lights produce on drywall is a slight off white blue color with ofcourse the color spectrum along the outside of the light.

[EvlEgl]

Ok...Drive with one behind you...Regardless of the color the lights are bright as **** and when they bounce off the road it reflects off my rear view mirror and is a PITA to deal with.

And Whatever you wanna think Intercooled T thats your opinion.

[Intercooled T]

yup, I know, and you left it open for discussion :)

just my opinion, but HIDs on some low-end cars, where the HID system costs half as much as the car, usually doesn't sit right w/ me. That, and 8ft tall spoilers, gawdy rims, etc.....

where's all this anger stemming from? I don't think 5 stickers qualifies as rice, unless all those stickers don't resemble actual parts on your car, actual sponsers, etc.

[cburwell]

Ok...Drive with one behind you...Regardless of the color the lights are bright as **** and when they bounce off the road it reflects off my rear view mirror and is a PITA to deal with.

And Whatever you wanna think Intercooled T thats your opinion.

The purpose of HID's is to put out more light correct? When you go to 10,000K HID's over say 4600K, you actually are not getting any more light on the road. At that point the light output is actually less then the output of a lower temp. HID kit. That's probably what he is trying to explain.

There is also a difference between a factory HID kit and an aftermarket one. Factory HID's have a projector that produces a proper beam pattern. People who put HID's in a car that did not come with them rarely install them properly. Most of the time they are stuffed in housing that were designed for halogen bulbs, and just throw the HID light everywhere.

Regaurdless of if it is rice or not, it is still impractical. The OP's reason for running 10K HID's was that they look good.

[Honest_Bob]

10k Hids are usless for anything but producing a purple light. In fact they are probably duller than the origonal head light bulbs.
http://www.hid-online.com/hidonline/information/whatiscolourtemp.htm

Its a useless mod, cant really blame the guy for getting them thinking 10k is brighter than 6k. It seems like it would be common sense, but putting them on and expecting Johnny Law not to bother him is outrageous.

My exhaust is ultra loud and my tint is probably a bit to dark. I've been expecting to be pulled over since it was done and I am still waiting.

[Tiny]

10k Hids are usless for anything but producing a purple light. In fact they are probably duller than the origonal head light bulbs.
http://www.hid-online.com/hidonline/information/whatiscolourtemp.htm

Its a useless mod, cant really blame the guy for getting them thinking 10k is brighter than 6k. It seems like it would be common sense, but putting them on and expecting Johnny Law not to bother him is outrageous.

My exhaust is ultra loud and my tint is probably a bit to dark. I've been expecting to be pulled over since it was done and I am still waiting.


I disagree. Having changed from a conventional bulb to a 10k HID I can attest to the fact that they are much brighter then the standard lights.

My fear was that they were going to be too purple when I ordered them, but they are only slightly bluish, which is what I wanted, and look more white then anything.

And as far as the law, I've been in the game for a few years and I know as well as the other level heads out here that I can be pulled over for anything if a cop feels like it, so you just have to deal with it.

[EvlEgl]

I'm not really angry, Nor am I saying my car is ricey.I was simply giving an example of whats on my car and how some people clarify things like that as rice.

Headlights Bulbs are not on my definition of a "ricey" mod...I upgraded mine to the sylvania silverstars and its a definate improvment and puts off a blueish tint

I made this thread merely to see what other car entushiats calssify as Rice.

[drew]

people give me **** for my 8K HID's, I didn't buy them to make anyone happy, I wanted brighter headlights and like the blueish tint. If I JUST wanted blinding lights I would have gotten 4-6k bulbs, people say that with 8k you arn't seeing as much at night; wich is true, BUT you still see a LOT better than you do with regular halogen bulbs AND I see plenty with my 8k bulbs, so I have no use for a brighter light than what I already have. If you want to say something on my car is rice then at least justify it, I have red gauge bezels, they're completly useless and YES that's rice, but I like them. calling my HID's rice is just stupid, I see better with them than I did with halogen bulbs ( by a HUGE margain ) and I like the look.


besises, the nissan factory HID's I have seen lately are way bluer, they have got to be 10k

[OptiCon]

80/100 watt 5000k halogens. Brighter than sin and are completely ignored by the cops.

Also, you'll never have any retards walking up to you going "Dude! Sick lights, yo!". :screwy:

Heck, if you avoid stickers, flashy wheels, loud exhausts, bright paint, and popular performance cars you might be able to avoid any unwanted interaction at all. Leaving it up to you to start the conversations and road battles. :thumbup:

[ozthunder]

As I stated in the other post, I feel that anytime you start thinking about what color light you display you start to tread towards rice. Not exactly rice; rice would be pink, green, orange, red, etc. But the tinted lights..eh, it's def getting there in my opinion.

But its an opinion, but an edict of law of doctrine of the Catholic faith..lol

[EvlEgl]

I plan on tinting my tailights and front sidemarkers...That makes me a ricer?

[EvlEgl]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/Braindamaged0386/BuiltAWD.jpg

Something like that...IMO is NOT rice at all

[ozthunder]

To me? Sort-of.

To others? Doubtful.

But you do what you want to do. I can just think of other things to spend the money on. But then again, I do want to tint my windows a bit..lol

[ozthunder]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/Braindamaged0386/BuiltAWD.jpg

Something like that...IMO is NOT rice at all

It doesn't look as bad as I had initially envisioned it, however, as I said in the post that should be above this, I know things that I would rather spend my money on, ya know? It's not a difference in taste, but rather, priorities. For me, show comes after the go.

[EvlEgl]

The 5 dollar can of spray tint wont break the bank to much...I cant buy a 5 dollar performance part for my car.

[EvlEgl]

It doesn't look as bad as I had initially envisioned it, however, as I said in the post that should be above this, I know things that I would rather spend my money on, ya know? It's not a difference in taste, but rather, priorities. For me, show comes after the go.

Fair enough...And I agree Go before show is ALWAYS my priority but I do like to have a nice looking ride.

[ozthunder]

No, but you can put 5$ towards one ;). As I said, it's just a different set of priorities for me. When I had my Zed (and one of the reasons I got rid of it) I realized that some people just think looking as outrageous as possible is the goal, not going fast. Albeit, plenty went fast. Plenty. Just some take it to different extremes.

My car, in the avatar, has hood scoops. Why? Well, they are modeled after the 69 judge, and the previous owner wanted them. Are they a bit much? Eh, sometimes I feel that way. Yet the car itself isn't outrageous from the get go, so it gives it that bit of an edge. Is it rice? Eh, depends. They are fully functional, blowing right into my air box. Are they necessary? Well, if they give me a gain, yes. But I don't know.

Point is, different strokes for different folks. I tend to judge more conservatively, while some of my friends judge in the complete opposite direction.

[EvlEgl]

I completely Agree...And I try not to knock anyones ride (Under extreme circumstances I really CANT help it I just wonder sometimes why people do what they do)

But Like I said I just wanted to hear different views on the subject.

[ozthunder]

Yea, I approach from the same way. I try to take as much as I can from each ride; obviously, I get very, very confused as to why people bother with some cars, but eh, to each their own, ya know?

It's good you asked and approached it like this, instead of just saying "not rice, stfuzorz"

[Evo8kid]

ok..my definition is:

A car that has stickers of things that are not on the car, I.E. NOS stickers on a car with not nitrous. And also body kits that the owner does not plan on painting, and a wing on a car that cannot reach speeds to utilize the wing

[OptiCon]

I plan on tinting my tailights and front sidemarkers...That makes me a ricer?
Reducing the effectivness of your car's safety devices to look cool. I wouldn't call it rice as the intent is not at all gaudy or tasteless (it actually looks really good), but depending on the execution it could be considered immature or reckless.

FYI: I went with tinted amber bulbs in my clear housings. Very little reduction in light output but no ugly amber until the lamp is lit. My tails are wide angle mutli-LED conversions behind stock red lenses. The increased light output would overide some minor tinting if I chose to do so. :thumbup:

[ozthunder]

RICER! lol

[OptiCon]

Hey, at least I waited until one of my OEMs burned out before I reworked the lighting. And anything is an impovement of factory equipment from 1992. :mrgreen:

[ozthunder]

Well yes, thats a reasonable thing!

[drew]

I got tons of rice, seoufulracing decal, kspec decal, 8k HID's, CF evo wannabe hood, but I like all of it and wouldn't change it just because someone else doesn't like it.. If you want to call everyone that has exterior modifications a ricer than go for it, not everyone spends 100% of their funds on performance mods. I really balance mine out, I have about 2-3 grand in exterior mods and 2-3 in performance. I could have a stock body with a stage 2 alpine supercharger, but I would rather have my car the way it is now and continue to build it :]

[ozthunder]

Any pics?

[drew]

Any pics?

my camera batterys died but if you wait about 20 minutes I'll put some up, I was on my way to wawa anyways

[69 Mach 1]

i think that if you balance it out (exterior and performance mods) its ok. i consider a ricer a car that doesn't have anything done for performance besides a muffler, but has a lot of unnecessary exterior mods (wing, extensive body kit, etc.). the hood scoops on the GTo are fine because they are not to much, but hint at the performance and also function to bring cold air to the engine. i also think that no car should have a sticker for a company or part that is not on the car.

[drew]

nevermind guess they didn't die

my headlights at night

http://y4ruh8.net/dyno/Picture%20016.jpg

yes, 6k would be much brighter, but I'm happy with the output of my 8k's ( 10k would be too far for me )

http://y4ruh8.net/dyno/Picture%20017.jpg
http://y4ruh8.net/dyno/Picture%20018.jpg
http://y4ruh8.net/dyno/Picture%20019.jpg
http://y4ruh8.net/dyno/Picture%20020.jpg

as you can see, my car got in a fight with a parked car and lost.

performance mods

injen SRI
SSA headers & testpipe
injen SES exhaust
RRM IM ( not pictured )
RRM plenum ( not pictured )
pirelli pzero nero m+s
dc sports front and rear strut bars ( cs-1 front cs-2 rear )
raizen voltage stabilizer
shark racing grounding kit
TWM STS
kartboy shifter bushings

r.ace i.nspired c.osmetic e.nhancments
seibon VSII hood
halo 8k HID's
LED tail conversion
enkei bronze evo 5's ( not pictured )
rays duranuts ( red, not pictured )


I've also got a dynotune EFI wet system with n20 pressure gauge, bottle heater, window switch, and purge, but I'm selling it instead of installing it so I can pay for a new fender and whatever the hell the part above the rear tire is called