TROLL's 2007 Bugeye STi: Made it into the Top Scoob Classic Round 2... dayum!

[TROLL]

edit 4/08: i havent been keeping up with the first page edits, sorry... just read the thread if you've got some time to check out the 07 STi swap, the mods i added, my ongoing tuning saga, and more :)

Edit: July 07: STi Engine and Transmission Swap Underway: Info and Photos starting at post 171

Edit May 07: Photos of new 17x8.5 +40 Enkei RPF-1 Wheels, test fitment, and finally mounted in posts 88, 107, 112, and 116 :)

Edit 4/9/07: Post 65: Complete STi Drivetrain Swap... R180, front and rear axles, front and rear 5x114 hubs, front and rear brembos, new suspension setup, STi BBS wheels, and more...


Edit 1/15/07: Photos and details about UTEC, EBCS, and Master Cylinder Brace posted on page 2...

Just posting a ton of photos I have and I'll be filling in the blanks soon with more info on what I have done to the car with more info isntead of just all photos...

This is my first set of wheels, circa 1986:
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/bryantricycle.jpg

Colorado Ice Racing, Feb. 2004:
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/iceracingphotos/BryanWRXIceRacing.jpg

Original Badass, June 2004:
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/WRXbryan.jpg

Ikea Parking Garage, Jan. 2005:
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/mahwahgroupsmall.jpg

Tein Flex Coilovers, Feb. 2005:
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/coilover3.jpg

Coilovers and Painted Stockers, Feb. 2005:
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/wrxcoilovers3.jpg

Chargespeed Bumper Install, March 2005:
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/bumper/bumperinstallbefore.jpg

http://www.bryantroll.com/other/bumper/bumperinstallafter.jpg

http://www.bryantroll.com/other/bumper/bumperdriveway.jpg

Core Creek Park, April 2005:
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/corecreek/editedsmallDSC_7933.jpg

Art Museum, May 2005:
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/WRXArtMuseumsmall.jpg

Auto-X, July 2005:
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/july10autox/autoxbryan1.jpg

South Jersey, Sept. 2005:
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/bryandirtdrift.jpg

Exhaust Manifold PnP, Dec. 2005:
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/portnpolish/comparison.jpg

Snow, Dec. 2005:
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/wrxsnow.jpg

Steelies represent, Jan. 2006:
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/bryanmarisacars/webedit_DSC5066.jpg

TGV Delete, Feb. 2006:
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/portnpolish/tgvdelete8.jpg

STi Seats, Feb. 2006:
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/jdmstiseats/3.jpg

BBS RGR, March 2006: (prediction was a little off :()
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/bbsrgrpreview.jpg

STi Aluminum Control Arms, March 2006:
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/controlarm3.jpg

Crab Run, April 2006:
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/crabrun/images/web_DSC9052.jpg
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/bryanswrxbridge.jpg

The Clean New Look, April 2006:
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/tstvinyl/vinyl3.jpg
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/tstvinyl/vinyl2.jpg

FMIC Install, May 2006:
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/fmicpic.jpg
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/fmicpic2.jpg

Steelies, May 2006?:
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/fmicsteelies.jpg

2006 STi 6-Speed Transmission
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/6mtinstall/images/_DSC3800.jpg
Aug. 2006:
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/0806bryanswrx.jpg

Most Recent Photos, Feb 2007:
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/wrxfeb07.jpg

http://www.bryantroll.com/other/wrxfeb07b.jpg

[Evo8kid]

by far the best time line so far haha real nice car

[FASTERTHANU]

geez, why did you change the front bumper?

[TrboChicsRock]

http://www.bryantroll.com/other/bryantricycle.jpg

You used to be so cute!!! WTF happened?!?!?!?!??! :rofl: :rofl:

I'm just messing with ya :)

Your car looks great. I like the way it's coming along.

[Will@TurboTek]

^ Yeah seriously! Unless its just changed for Auto-X and winter!

[TalonTsi97]

This is my first set of wheels, circa 1986:
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/bryantricycle.jpg


haha front wheel drive ftw
Troll, im looking forward to see where this keeps going, i remember your car in everyone of these forms even before i even knew who you were.
What ya end up doing with the BBS wheels?

[Honduh]

wow you car realllllllly makes me want a bug eye, even more than I already do.

[EvlEgl]

I liked the Black JDM Headlights the best...But damn that car has changed alot.

Looks good as it sits. And the drifitng pic of you in the sand is baddass.

[JDM87]

by far the most ballin member journal ever.

[joe tom]

great progression! but whats going on with the bbs'?

[Raven18940]

geez, why did you change the front bumper?

Probably cause he came to his senses and realized it was hideous.

Looking good troll. :thumbup:

[S4toSTI]

Where are the pics of the sebring?

[jspek]

haha the sebring, forgot about that. im still a huge fan of the chargespeed bumper.

[TROLL]

oh much debate about the bumper... well when i first got it i was in love but looking back i dont think it flows all that well. on mine it was just unbalanced with oem sideskirts and an oem rear lip, i think the new setup just flows and looks cleaner. i did like the full chargespeed kit on rob's red wrx though.
and another big thing about it is that it was low, fiberglass, and expensive. i felt like a little priss driving my car around because i had to be so gentle around bumps or ramps or whatever else. also, that bumper pretty much needs a front mount as so many of you were kind enough to remind me on a regular basis.
now i dont have to worry about the bumper/lip too much but i still think it looks good, although it definitely doesnt get as many looks as the chargespeed did. i'm pretty happy with my exterior now so i think i'll focus on other areas of the car :).

so yeah... enough about the bumper... i think i'll try to get more info about mods and other stuff into this thread today since i'm sitting at work not doing much. then once we're all caught up to present day i've got some current stuff going on thats pretty cool.

[LilRedVDub]

Very nice!

[D Money]

This is probably the best Subaru on tst. Troll has sooo many mods.

[S4toSTI]

This is probably the best Subaru on tst. Troll has sooo many mods.
He says in a typical dimitri voice.

[GLHWCU]

car is lookin amazing troll, and the headlights are A-M-A-Z-I-N-G. Yea its so good i had to spell it. Or cause im dumb i had to sound it out

[girlyspeed]

what about your new hood??

[04 Turbo Spec]

very nice

[TROLL]

Winter Project: V7 EJ207 Tear Down and Build Up

Figured I might as well keep an ongoing documentation of my little winter project. I just picked up an EJ207 that was hydrolocked and have begun tearing it down to see what the damage is. I have done a ton of work on Subies, but never actually torn down an engine so I'm taking things slow and taking lots of photos, for my own benefit and for others who may be in a similar situation.
I'm still unsure whether I want to stick with the 2.0 or go to a 2.5, but I'm honestly leaning toward an EJ257 with forged pistons to go with the EJ207 heads. I am really impressed with the GT30r, and feel its a great match for a daily driven 2.5L, but a bit much for the 2.0L. The debate goes on and on over which is the better platform, but personally I just think more displacement will be better for my needs. Its worth mentining that I will also be using an Aquamist 2D/DDS3 water injection kit with this setup, and most likely tuning with an Ecutek/UTEC combo.
Anyway, on with the photos...

Before starting, I either got the following items, or I should have gotten the following items:
-A divider tray to label and store bolts that may not be going back onto the engine for a while.
-A large flat pan, which fits under the entire engine stand. My oil pan will only fit on one side or the other, so catching drips has been an issue. The engine will drip... forever.
-10mm allen socket to remove cam sprocket bolts, they require a good bit of leverage so the allen socket is the ideal way to go.
-12mm, 12 point socket to remove the block bolts.
-14mm, 12 point socket to remove head studs.
-Long prybar to hold crank in place, and for general all purpose.
-1 1/8" wrench to hold cams while removing cam gear bolts
-14mm allen socket to remove access covers to get to wrist pins (or a 14mm bolt with 2 nuts locked onto each other, discussed below)
-I will continue to add to this as I realize what else I wish I had.

Full Photo Gallery (Updated 11/03/06): http://www.bryantroll.com/other/ej207/

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Saturday, Oct. 28th: Went to pick up motor, and then went to pick up engine stand. Contrary to popular belief, you CAN pick up a Subaru longblock with 2 people. I wouldnt want to carry it very far, but to lift it out of a van and then lift it up to an engine stand was really no problem.
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/ej207/images/_DSC0587.jpg

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Sunday Oct. 29th: Took off clutch and flywheel. Picked up bolts to put the engine on the stand and got that in place. The alternator and AC condensor had already been pulled, so I removed the power steering pump. Then I removed intake manifold, risers, and fuel rails all in one piece. Removed wiring harness that was underneath.
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/ej207/images/_DSC0597.jpg
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/ej207/images/_DSC0609.jpg
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/ej207/images/_DSC0602.jpg

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Monday, Oct. 30th: Pulled off coolant crossover pipe and coolant and oil lines running across the top of the motor. The exhaust manifold had already been removed, so I pulled off the engine mounts, and then took off the oil pan. The oil fill tube is bolted onto the top of the motor with one bolt, and then held in to the oil pan by two o-rings and took a bit of force to wiggle out, but it did pop out. I used a flathead screwdriver and tapped it under the lip of the oil pan, and worked my way around until it was free. Took the baffle and oil pickup off to reveal the crank, rods, etc. Actually also pulled off one of the valve covers to check it out inside, but then put it back on to save for later.
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/ej207/images/_DSC0635.jpg
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/ej207/images/_DSC0642.jpg
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/ej207/images/_DSC0680.jpg

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Tuesday, Oct. 31st: Used a breaker bar to take off the crank pulley bolt (22mm). See photos to see how I held the flywheel side of the crank in place. I removed the timing belt cover and removed two of the camshaft sprockets before calling it a night.
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/ej207/images/_DSC0684.jpg
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/ej207/images/_DSC0686.jpg
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/ej207/images/_DSC0688.jpg

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Thursday, Nov. 2nd: well i got 3 of the cam gears off just by holding the flywheel in place, one was jumping teeth though so i stopped. the cam does in fact have a hex shape toward the front just inside of the head behind where the cam gear is basically. its big, like a 24mm or something. seems like the only way to break it loose... not surprised there's a specific tool for it but if i cant get one then hopefully a normal wrench is ok. not using any pliers anywhere though, haha.

here are some highlights from today...
took all the pulleys off except for the drivers side intake cam gear... the timing belt wouldnt hold it in place. ended up pulling off the passenger side head completely, and to my untrained eye i see nothing out of the ordinary so far.

http://www.bryantroll.com/other/ej207/images/_DSC0692.jpg

http://www.bryantroll.com/other/ej207/images/_DSC0696.jpg

http://www.bryantroll.com/other/ej207/images/_DSC0700.jpg

http://www.bryantroll.com/other/ej207/images/_DSC0703.jpg

http://www.bryantroll.com/other/ej207/images/_DSC0706.jpg

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Friday, Nov 3rd: I used a 1 1/8" open ended wrench to hold the cams while loosening the cam gear bolts. The price/use ratio on that thing for its lifetime is currently at $23/1, sweet.

now, i got the 14mm hex covers out of the front of the engine, and i havent been able to grab onto the wrist pins... are we fans of pulling them out with something that can catch the back lip from the front side, or punching through from the opposite side? i'll tell you now I need a better phillips head screwdriver to get the plates off of the backside before i do much of anything though... who puts screws on a motor? wtf.
anyway if anyone local has a tool to use or is a pro at getting the wrist pins i'll love you long time. and to clarify these are the newer style wrist pins which have a small inner diameter and a taper out to the outer diameter so there's really not much of a lip to grab onto at all, unfortunately.

this is my little organizer. it was $5 at Lowes and i'm going back tomorrow to get 2 more. you should get one too, and write yourself little notes on what everythign is.
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/ej207/images/_DSC0714.jpg

this is the 1 1/8" wrench on the hex shaped area of the cam... worked like a charm to hold it in place.
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/ej207/images/_DSC0715.jpg

this is what to do if you dont have a 14mm allen key... use a 14mm bolt and two nuts locked down on each other. stick head of bolt into 14mm allen key and put wrench on the inside nut and turn counter clockwise. ta da.
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/ej207/images/_DSC0724.jpg

and this is how close i am to having the whole thing torn down. hopefully tomorrow i'll be able to get the wrist pins and pistons out, and split the block once and for all. i do have the water and oil pumps off now, by the way.
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/ej207/images/_DSC0717.jpg

[poolmike]

So, umm, when are we putting that thing in??

[TROLL]

Its not totally apart yet :(. The wrist pins are still stuck in and keeping me from moving forward. I need the proper tool to get them out so I may break down this week and bring the block to the dealer to have a tech spend 10 minutes pulling the 4 wrist pins out with the specialty tool. After that the pistons come out, then I split the block (easier said then done) and then separate the rods from the crank. I expect there will be some damage inside the block, but what exactly I don't know.
I am anxious to tear it down and see what I've got here but the rebuild wont be quite as urgent. As I said above I havent yet decided what shortblock I will be using, and some other things are still a bit in the air as well. Whatever I do will be taken to a machine shop to have everything looked over and balanced. I'm just giving a rough ETA of late winter or early spring for it to be in the car.

[highmilehatch]

Nice work. Props on all the attention to detail and not working like a total pig (like I see alot of people do unfortunately).

[james_ls]

Brian if you want any help with that bad bitch...lemme know man.

Good time on Saturday...hopefully again sometime.

[TROLL]

Well lets see... the only 'messup' so far is I tried to keep track of each bucket's original spot but I lost track because I was trying to do 2 things at once. From what I'm told this will make resetting the lash more difficult, something I had no idea about.
The other close call was taking out the head bolts... intuition (and anthony) told me to work from the middle out and barely break all of them loose first before taking any out so luckily that was the proper way.
Only other thing was marking the cam gears before pulling them off... I checked with a couple people and they said since i have to take it all apart anyway there's no need to mark them, others have said it might not have been a bad idea.
All in all though things have gone really well. I L-O-V-E working on a project that doesnt need to be driven the next morning. I do like keeping things clean and taking it slow to make sure everything is done properly and not having a hard looming deadline really makes the whole process more enjoyable.
Thanks for the props highmile... means a lot coming from a pro :)

[eastsidesuby19]

Niice...Good find. Cant wait to see that thing put together and back on the road. Gl with the tear down/rebuild.

[Honest_Bob]

Good luck man, I hope to tear an engine down some day. :cool:

[sisforsurfing]

Wow, I had no idea you had stepped up to this level of wrenching, very cool. Pictures like this are awesome! Keep updating like this, it's interesting, something most Subaru owners can hope to be able to do themselves some day. :supz:

I L-O-V-E working on a project that doesnt need to be driven the next morning.
Agreed, when it's not as urgent to get it back together it's so much less stressful and you can take your time.

[Renegade_]

I say go for the 2.0L and a GT30 - the v7 is more than enough to spool a GT30 and keep you in boost for a long time

[teh DIRT]

yes but the 2.5 will spool even better, make more overall torque and will in the end be a better block.

Wow, I had no idea you had stepped up to this level of wrenching, very cool. Pictures like this are awesome! Keep updating like this, it's interesting, something most Subaru owners can hope to be able to do themselves some day.

we dont play games chris, the starters of TST need to set an example for the rest of you. And that is that building your own motors for high HP is cool.

[Renegade_]

yes but the 2.5 will spool even better, make more overall torque and will in the end be a better block.
Thats true - I say go all out then, get an EJ257 all forged internals, fully decked, re-sleeved, throw 30 PSI at it and call it a day :roll:

[TROLL]

Some quick comparisons by my estimation... (207 is the JDM STi 2.0L and the 257 is the USDM STi 2.5L)
-Using the 207 shortblock the car will hit say 400-425 whp and 325 ft lbs of torque. Using the 257 shortblock the car will hit say 400-425 whp and 400 ft lbs of torque, and will have an overall much broader torque curve which starts a lot earlier. I hate to throw out numbers so early in the game so keep in mind those are just really rough guesses just to illustrate the difference in hp and torque.
-To make that power the 207 would be at 26+ psi, whereas the 257 would be at 23-24 psi most likely.
-The 207 will spool the turbo by about 4500-4750 rpm and will spin to 8250 (but probably will only make power to 7500-7750 without aftermarket cams. The 257 will spool the turbo by 3600-3800 rpm and will spin to and make power until 7250-7500 after being balanced.
-The 207 would still probably get a decent 20-22 mpg around town if I was light on the throttle whereas the 257 will probably get 16-18 mpg.

I'm planning to add forged pistons to the 257 but that is all that should be necessary for my needs. Cost difference on either would depend on what I find inside of the 207 but should be relatively close all said and done.
The 207 is a totally sick motor for guys who want big power and when combined with a big turbo its great for drag racing and its ok for getting around town. The 257 is also a great motor though especially with forged pistons and has a ton of potential all while spooling a turbo like a GT30r very well. I never was much of a drag racer and always favored early spool and the overall powerband, and I do drive my car daily around town so these are the reasons I am swaying towards more displacement on this one. 207 owners swear by their 207s and say they are incredibly smooth revving motors, but I think after balancing the 257 will be just about the same.

[D Money]

Boy do I have work to do this winter.

The game has been stepped up. Damn, Troll!

[Renegade_]

Boy do I have work to do this winter.

The game has been stepped up. Damn, Troll!
H6, fully forged internals, twin GT30Rs, AVCS (yes, you heard me)

Go.

[teh DIRT]

Boy do I have work to do this winter.

The game has been stepped up. Damn, Troll!



you dont even know son. your car is gona be "slow"

[blackvr4]

wow ive always wanted too see what a WRX engine looked like apart. and on a stand and ****. it looks soo much different than any engine ive worked on. im in the process of tearing apart my bros VR-4 engine, cause the tbelt jumped.

oh yea those cams, are soooooooooooooooooooo.....CUTE!!! hahhah

good luck with the build man.
alex

[TROLL]

I forgot to finish up the info on the teardown... woops. Anyway, here it is. Unfortunately things have been sitting for a while now as I gather the parts for the new setup. I keep pushing things farther and farther and the new setup is going to be really sweet, so I'll post more info on that in the near future. Anyway, on with the post from when I finished the original teardown...

11/9/06:
OK after a short hiatus I was back in the garage last night, and after a long night got the block apart completely.
Diagnosis: spun rod bearing. Its a shame, but its what I expected and for the price I paid for the block I more than made out for just the heads alone.

What I figured out about the wrist pins is you dont want to line them up with the access holes exactly. You want to get them just very slightly off center so that the pin still barely has room to slide out of the access hole but so that on the other side the rod moves out of the way just enough to slide a nice long thin screwdriver through and tap the wrist pin out. When things are lined up perfectly it doesnt work because the rod is front and center, and completely in the way of feeding the screwdriver through to the other side. I took a photo of the way I had mine oriented and the amount of clearance it gave me... not much, but enough to tap the pins out from the opposite side.

After that I carefully pulled out the block bolts (dont forget about the one on the underside, the one on bottom of the bellhousing, and the one on the bottom in the front). We used a putty knife and a thin flathead screwdriver to work out way around the entire seal of the block and it took a little time but all in all was pretty cooperative in separating.

As always, see ALL the photos at www.bryantroll.com/other/ej207
I'm only posting a handful here so check for more detail shots and others at the link.

Some photos of the highlights of the day, with a couple questions:

the drivers front and passenger front rods were stiff enough on the crank that they stuck in place. i could move them with my hand easily enough but they were not loose enough to fall down under their own weight. is that normal? neither of these were the cylinders with the spun bearing although there was some buildup on each of the bearings it looked like. 'stuck in position' on left, free moving on right:
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/ej207/images/_DSC0811.jpg

buildup:
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/ej207/images/_DSC0835.jpg

my mentally unstable master mechanic right hand man splitting the block with a putty knife and hammer (at 2am, wow loud banging!)
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/ej207/images/_DSC0814.jpg

houston, we have lift off
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/ej207/images/_DSC0818.jpg

never seen one before, but if i had to guess what a spun bearing looked like...
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/ej207/images/_DSC0826.jpg

crank where the bearing spun. feels smooth, but looks a little different...
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/ej207/images/_DSC0829.jpg

bottom is where the bearing spun
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/ej207/images/_DSC0831.jpg

victory is mine
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/ej207/images/_DSC0834.jpg

[poolmike]

Get that thing running, would ya. This build-up should have been completed weeks ago...and your assistant looks a little shady. Keep an eye on him.:mrgreen:

Looks good Bryan!

[BMS]

thats pretty sick, cant wait to see it go in, and if you need any help, im just like half a second away.

[012.5RS]

lookin good man, wish iad had more money to affoard a swap. some day.

[ScoobyNubieToo!]

You are guys are insane! Hope the build goes well!

[dt98gsr]

First time reading this thread. Looks like a lot of fun, keep us updated. I can't wait to see what it looks like when its all said and done.

Are you still planning on picking up a set of RGR's?

[TROLL]

those are my RGRs in the pic :)

[BMS]

very nice progression, but i have never seen anyone change their cars look as much as you have. either way it is still a very nice car.

EDIT: this is 04 turbo spec

[TROLL]

i've changed wheels a lot, otherwise... it really hasnt changed that much except for 2 'aftermarket' sets of lights and going to the chargespeed bumper then the oem lip.

[04 Turbo Spec]

i've changed wheels a lot, otherwise... it really hasnt changed that much except for 2 'aftermarket' sets of lights and going to the chargespeed bumper then the oem lip.

what about the head lights??

and all that is changing the look

[TROLL]

i'm listing the things that i have changed...

i have changed wheels... a bunch. i've also owned quite a few exhausts, but thats not really 'the look'

i have changed headlights 2x, i have changed front bumper/lip 2x, everything else has been one upgrade.

[BMS]

you also changed the tranny

[TROLL]

ha ok i changed a whole ton of things... i cant even keep track any more, but we were talking about changing the 'look'...
but really, lets not split hairs here.

[BMS]

i think the only original part on your is car is your vin#

[04 Turbo Spec]

i'm listing the things that i have changed...

i have changed wheels... a bunch. i've also owned quite a few exhausts, but thats not really 'the look'

i have changed headlights 2x, i have changed front bumper/lip 2x, everything else has been one upgrade.

ok so then you haven't changed the look that much, but you did swap a bunch of parts. I know with me i buy it and stick with it but either way cars lookin good man

[TROLL]

Added a couple of little things this week, might as well start documting it all here...

Well, last week I installed a UTEC and pulled out my Accessport. I had owned a UTEC in the past and let me just say that this time around... wow, they have added a lot of great features. A short list of the UTEC's capabilities: 5 separate maps which control fuel tuning, timing tuning, and boost control. Fuel can be controlled via MAF or Speed Density. Launch control and flat foot shifting can be easily wired up. The UTEC can be set to detect and respond to knock and also adjust for changing temperatures. There are about a thousand other features but I'll just leave it at that for now...
The UTEC is a very powerful engine management system, and I have been really enjoying using it this time around. I also found a great logging and editing program called UTI which was developed by an individual and its fantastic.
Unfortunately there was a hardware interface problem which I have since solved, but this is what was involved in getting the UTEC up and running the first day. Yes, I had to set my entire desktop up next to my car in the garage...
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/journalpartsphotos/UTECreflash.jpg

I also installed a Perrin EBCS (Electronic Boost Control Solenoid), which is basically an improved boost control solenoid which is still controlled by the factory boost controller, which I am now controlling with the UTEC. Simple hoses, simple wiring, and a little custom bracket with a rubber dampener so the solenoid didnt rattle on my strut tower when activated... I could immediately tell a huge difference in boost response... it built much more aggressively and I actually had to lower my boost targets right off the bat. The blue zip tie is temporary, I promise...
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/journalpartsphotos/ebcs.jpg

And lastly, I installed a Perrin Brake Master Cylinder Brace. I already have upgraded calipers, rotors, pads, stainless steel lines, and brake fluid, so this was just the finishing touch really. This basically eliminates flex in the brake master cylinder which improves pedal feel, and to my surprise it did exactly what was advertised. I can tell the pedal feel is firmer, its a nice little touch. Install was very simple...

http://www.bryantroll.com/other/journalpartsphotos/perrinmbcbrace1.jpg

http://www.bryantroll.com/other/journalpartsphotos/perrinmbcbrace2.jpg

[Honest_Bob]

Nice! I allways wanted a master cylinder brace. Deffinitly want to pick one up now.

[Renegade_]

Does the pedal feel change with the brace?

[sisforsurfing]

Awesome. Glad you got the glitch with the UTEC figured out. I didn't realize UTEC could respond to knock or have that many maps switchable... or could run speed density. That's some good stuff!

Your car is getting serious, haha. Why'd you get the Perrin ECBS instead of the GM BCS? Sorry if that's a dumb question but I don't know much about the differences.
And that first picture is soo sweet.

[D Money]

ok so you and I both know that kaminari hood won't fit if you go with a reversed intake mani. Hook me up, I want that hood and I want the kaminari lip with their splitter! I need a new look son!

[HuffRex]

Very nice progress troll! We def. need to slap that thing on the dyno for tuning and it should be a monster!

[daisaw1219]

where did you go offroading at in South NJ

[TROLL]

hating my car lately, but i did finally get an updated photo of how she sits right now... added to the first post but i'll put it here too...

http://www.bryantroll.com/other/wrxfeb07.jpg

http://www.bryantroll.com/other/wrxfeb07b.jpg

[whitezenki]

i see definite room there for spacers and some BBS sweetness...

just sayin, just sayin... looks great

[poolmike]

Looks nice Troll.

[simprezl25]

damn nice process. what are your future modds? i didnt see a turbo on there

[dt98gsr]

Looks good to me. I can't wait to see the RGR's on it!

[TROLL]

ok back to post the big update. decided to go 5x114 and lose out on the RGRs :(. this weekend i installed:

-STi R180 Rear Differential
-STi Rear Crossmember
-STi Aluminum Lateral Links
-STi Control Arms
-STi Front and Rear Axles
-STi Front and Rear 5x114.3 Hubs
-STi Front and Rear Brembos
-STi Silver BBS 17x8 Wheels
-STi Struts, RaceComp Engineering Springs, Group-N Tophats
-Perrin 22mm Rear Swaybar for STi

I had some very appreciated help here and there from Fred (WKDerf) and Anthony (auk113), and PoolMike swung by to check things out and so did Phil from 201 Motorsports, so thanks for the help guys.
I did go at most of this solo though, and it was very time consuming. All in all things went well but it was just so involved that start to finish took 2 days for me to complete, plus bleeding the brakes the next morning. I took my time, had to figure a few things out along the way, and as you can see was working on jackstands with hand tools, so I'm happy with the job and confident that everything went back together as it should which is the most important thing.
The rears were quite stubborn and took a while to get off. The lower strut bolts were rusted solid onto the hubs, the rear control arms were super tight, and that damn lateral link bolt was corroded to the links. Rough way to start an install but I got them off, eventually.
The rear diff wasn't that difficult to drop out after I got the hubs and coilovers out. A handful of bolts and the entire thing lowers as one piece.
The e-brake cables were the end of me. I spent the rest of the night trying to figure them out, and ended up calling it a night because I was exhausted.
Next morning after some reading and research I realized that the length of the ebrake cables changed slightly through the years. After some experimentation and a lot of dis- and re-assembly of the e-brake assemblies at the hubs, I was able to use my WRX e-brake cable with the STi rear end to make it work.
Front hubs were pretty quick getting off. Got that figured out, but it used up about half of my day. Wish I would have known about that problem, and that solution ahead of time.
Front axles and axle seals went in as planned. New hubs bolted on as planned.
Suspension went in as planned all around as well. Decided to try a more streetable but still just as capable setup to see if I like it... STi struts, RaceComp Springs, and Group-N Tophats. Less bling, but I'm over the wow factor of coilovers, I just want something that takes care of business and the components I chose this time around get very good reviews from auto-xers and serious suspension guys.
Bleeding 2 valves on each caliper is a bitch, but we got through it. The pedal feels pretty good but when I have a chance I'll bleed them again just to get it in tip top shape.
Thats about it... everything feels great, and the look is super clean. Looks a little too much like a stock STi to me right now, but I'm on the look out for some more interesting wheels so hopefully I'll find something I like.

below are SOME of the photos, for the complete gallery visit http://s324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Drivetrain%20Swap/

before:
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Drivetrain%20Swap/_DSC2892.jpg

before:
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Drivetrain%20Swap/_DSC2896.jpg

stock rear hubs removed:
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Drivetrain%20Swap/_DSC2901.jpg

stock rear end being lowered out of the car:
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Drivetrain%20Swap/_DSC2902.jpg

emptyness:
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Drivetrain%20Swap/_DSC2904.jpg

front hub removed:
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Drivetrain%20Swap/_DSC2913.jpg

new rear diff, aluminum lateral links, axles, hubs, brembos, swaybar:
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Drivetrain%20Swap/_DSC2919.jpg

done and done:
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Drivetrain%20Swap/_DSC2940.jpg

[04 Turbo Spec]

why didnt you just buy a STI and swap a wrx motor in it, that would have been cheaper.

ha ha jk jk

i like the BBS's on there

[TROLL]

bugeyes fo life!!!

but yeah, i have thought about getting an STi and doing a bugeye conversion on it :). just not trying to pick up a huge new car payment right now, it would seriously interfere with the whole house hunting thing.

[StealthTC]

troll you should sell me your winter wheels, i love the way those rs wheels looked on your car for your winter stance :)

[poolmike]

Nice job Troll. That was a huge job. Sorry I couldn't stick around and help out the other day.

Remind me to install some lighting in the garage over there. It's like working in Grey Skull Castle with a freakin' candle.

[1320wrx]

Nice job Troll, do you plan on gettin RGR's in the new lug pattern or are you keepin the STI wheels on. What are u doin with your old brakes (they are the 06-07 brakes rite)

[TROLL]

stuff FS that i havent had a chance to list yet: RS 6 spoke wheels and Dunlop Wintersport M3 winter tires, red Subaru 4 pot front and 2 pot rear brakes with everything needed for install plus extra aftermarket front pads and rotors, Perrin rear swaybar, mounts and endlinks for a wrx, and probably some other stuff that i'm not thinking of.

and no i probably wont be getting RGRs sadly, unless anyone finds a set of 18x8.5 in 5x114 fs used or cheap, since thats the only size that will fit my hubs/brakes now. i'd love to rock them, but they're almost 700 each. i'm on the lookout for some cool wheels, but for now i like how the stock STi bbs look.
thanks for the responses... big project so i'm hoping to just sit back and enjoy the fruits of my labor now. maybe try to get to that autox on the 15th :)

[StealthTC]

TROLL! How mcuh for the rs wheels?

[sisforsurfing]

Nice! I heard all about it but didn't want to post until you did and I saw all went well.

Totally sick. And bugeye conversions on STi's are nice, but this is way, way cooler IMO. Keep up the good work, good luck with the next stage of modding :mrgreen:

[SlideWayzS13]

Nice werk! and JackStands > Lifts:lol:

[D Money]

hello 06 bugeye. :wink:

Hey, if we lower the car more and you let me pick your wheels, this car is going to turn out nice!

[TROLL]

ha last time i worked on a lift my back was ****ed up for like a week after... not used to bending upwards... and my shoulders couldnt handle it either, holding them above my head like that so much... i'm not in good enough condition to use a lift i guess, haha. not to say that i'm not sure as hell now though. i try to wear gloves but i didnt have them on the whole time and the bloody knuckes show that.
and d, find me some sweet wheels. someone just posted 18x8 BBS LMs on NASIOC, but they are a +50 and need a spacer to fit. they are also $2800 with almost used up tires. :eek: sexy though, real sexy.
unfortunately i cant adjust ride height any more... but i like it how it is i think. i'm trying out this strut spring combo and if i end up liking it i'm keeping it. this setup is all business... it should rock in the auto-x and such. if i dont like it, i've got a set of 05+ STi Tein Flexes waiting in the wings :mrgreen:

[D Money]

Oh ****, that's right! No more coilovers. Dude, listen, you have to get coilovers to clear some big boy wheels.

18x8 is too skinny, not to mention that offset SUCKS! If you go 18x8.5 or 17x9, a nice set of 255's would look sick!

Dude, you will clean up on autox with some beef, now lets get something real aggressive on there.

[StealthTC]

troll hit me up about the rs 6 spokes gimme a price!

[CHAOS]

looks good bryan... im interested to see where you take the car from here... what kind of power are you making?

[CleanNeon98]

http://www.bryantroll.com/other/wrxfeb07.jpg


http://www.bryantroll.com/other/stidrivetraingallery/images/_DSC2940.jpg

The second looks much better than the first. Good work...im guessing the small wheels in the first pic are your winter wheels?

[TROLL]

yeah they were. i used to rock 16s in the winter and 17s in the summer. with the brembos i just put on i have to use 17s or bigger year round. i am going to use the stock sti wheels for now, but hopefully find something a little more unique to use. then i'll use the new wheels for the summer and probably keep the bbs for the winter.

as far as where its going next... most likely possibility is that it will be even more like an STi if anything ;). nothing is set in stone though so we'll see... the planning and organizing for this install, and the install itself was exhausting. i need a short vacation from working on my car to catch my breath before i make any more big moves.

[S4toSTI]

but hopefully find something a little more unique to use.

RPF-1s

[foss]

why go scoopless? isn't it functional?

[Renegade_]

why go scoopless? isn't it functional?
If you have a FMIC and a scoop there is no point to the scoop. You actually theoretically loose pressure in the engine bay because there are 2 inlets. The absolute most ideal setup with a FMIC is a reverse scoop because it pulls it out. Then again there aren't many people who rock that.

[TROLL]

actually they did some extensive testing on airflow and underhood temps and determined that the factory scoop is good for keeping underhood temps down, regardless of whether you have a tmic or fmic. the only thing better than that for a fmic setup is a reverse cowl toward the front of the hood, like on an evo or like my kaminari hood :). this allows air to flow through the fmic and rad, and flow up and out the vent before hitting a wall that is the engine and being forced over or under it.
none of the reverse scoop inserts are very functional because they are located too far back on the hood, behind the engine.
:)
whats real funny though is there was a guy on nasioc recently who posted a pic of his STi that had a reverse scoop, but he still had the stock TMIC. winnar!

[Sberk06]

maybe he likes to drive in reverse more.

[xEJ20x]

How many sets of wheels have you had?

[TROLL]

funny you should ask, because you can add a big +1 to the wheel count as of today :mrgreen:

picked these beauties up today and they will be on the car on saturday, just in time for the big island beach meet on sunday

http://www.bryantroll.com/other/rpf1collage.jpg
yeah, i did make a collage. it was fun. what are you gonna do about it?

but to answer your question, i really have had a lot of wheels. what can i say, i like to mix it up.
1) stock 16x6.5
2) rota attacks 17x7.5 (recalled by rota)
3) painted stockers 16x6.5 (winter 2)
4) rota torques 17x8 free replacement for recall)
5) bbs rgr 17x7.5 (never made it on my car :()
6) black steelies 16x6.5 (winter 3)
7) prodrive p1 17x7
8) prodrive p7 17x7
9) 2.5rs 6-spokes 16x7 (winter 4)
--5x114 conversion--
10) sti bbs silvers 17x8
11) jdm white spec arai 17x8 (never had em on the car though)
12) enkei rpf-1 17x8.5

right now i've kind of got my heart set on hyper black rota torques for this winter :) we'll see though...

[whitezenki]

They look good, should definitly match up well with your car.

9.5J? Dammit, the 9's I was about to order need to get at least an inch wider...

but what wit the quarter? lol money shots should be taken with the most value possible, like a gold dollar at least
like so:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s143/whitezenki/img01228tc-1.jpg
BLING!

[ozthunder]

lol@the bling, the bread, and the ****ty ****in brakes.

[TROLL]

haha yeah the quarter was a joke... a bill makes the lip look pitiful...

and they are 8.5 wide... the width of a wheel is measured from inside lip to inside lip... but total width is about 9.5 though.

[whitezenki]

haha yeah the quarter was a joke... a bill makes the lip look pitiful...

and they are 8.5 wide... the width of a wheel is measured from inside lip to inside lip... but total width is about 9.5 though.

haha its all good, big lips are a fading trend anyway...
8.5 makes more sense, shows what i know, will look good no matter what tho!

lol@the bling, the bread, and the ****ty ****in brakes.

not my pic, i thought the same thing tho! lol, got all that cash and bling, but your brakes are the worst option for a 240 to have

[TROLL]

Yeah they are a +40 offset which is dangerously low for a subaru :lol:. The extra width and lower offset will fill out the fenders real nice... which I'm excited about because its rare to really fill out the front fender of a wrx or sti sedan. Rear fenders will probably need to be rolled, but its all good. These wheels should stick out 20mm wider than the stock wheels do.
To explain why I went with a +40 when +45 is normally as low as subaru guys go... I converted to the stronger STi 5x114 hub which has a superior wheel bearing, I'm running coilovers with camber plates up front which are kicked in a bit to help offset the negative effects of the difference in scrub radius, +40 is the highest offset they make for the 17x8.5, and lastly I wanted to do something a little different :)
I talked to a few STi gurus and they all figured it should be fine... guys run super wide wheels with low offsets on the track and they put a lot more lateral load on their (5x114) wheel bearings without any issues.

[sisforsurfing]

I think you'll be fine with 40+. Like you said, there are some guys on NASIOC running 9"+ in crazy low offsets for a Subaru. You've probably researched it a ton by now anyway.

I like how light those are... 16 pounds for a 8.5" wheel is good stuff. And nice little studio photoshoot... I did the same thing with my wheels when I got them!

[D Money]

depending on the camber you run, these may have a little pokage. They will definately look good though.

255/35's? :wink:

[TROLL]

ahhh i've got 235/40s... kinda wish i had something slightly taller now with the 6 speed but i got em so i'm gonna rock em. up next would either be 235/45 or 255/40... depending on how tight i feel like making things.

[D Money]

Honestly, you are going to have room with these wheels. They aren't as aggresive as you think.

My friends run 18x8.5 +45 with 15mm spacers dude, tucked!

It's all about fittin the fat tire. Roll the fenders, bang the fender wheels, coilovers so you don't have that fat spring.

You will be fine. I wish I went wider on the tire, but it only gives me time to upgrade. Running some fat ass R compounds on the street, holla at the kid!

[Broken5hift]

lol. and you mocked me and my cell phone habit troll.

those rims look great, def the kind i like, lip and all. any plans to powder coat them?

[TROLL]

broken, you're right, damnit. we all have our quirks... i just didnt realize this was one of mine until i was pointed out in this thread.

d- yeah maybe a spacer in the front, the rear is a different story. and r compounds on the street? please d, dont get me started

[Broken5hift]

what about the powder coating dammit. maybe even just the spokes and leave the silver lip *drool*

[TROLL]

oh right, the only thing i'd want other than silver would be a pewter or diamond black... but honestly its not really on the agenda at this point.

[D Money]

broken, you're right, damnit. we all have our quirks... i just didnt realize this was one of mine until i was pointed out in this thread.

d- yeah maybe a spacer in the front, the rear is a different story. and r compounds on the street? please d, dont get me started

lol I love getting you all fired up. You are going to be like wtf? Is D rocking a motorcyle tire on the street?

Straight up gangster! A048's tucked, looking like they came off a chopper or r1.

[Chris_PA]

new wheels = :)

[CHAOS]

did you buy them off a guy in CA?

[TROLL]

nope i got them through tirerack... picked them up in DE yesterday :)

[Orbit]

good choice on wheels! quality and performance FTW !

[TROLL]

just test fit the wheels since i wasnt doing anything and didnt want to get the tires mounted and then find out that the internet lied to me about fitment. first off, they clear the front brembo calipers by about an inch... second, they stick out past the fenders... hopefully when the wheels are on the ground they'll tuck in a little from the camber, and also the tires will have enough of a taper to them.

http://www.bryantroll.com/other/fenderclearance.jpg

[S4toSTI]

just test fit the wheels since i wasnt doing anything and didnt want to get the tires mounted and then find out that the internet lied to me about fitment. first off, they clear the front brembo calipers by about an inch... second, they stick out past the fenders... hopefully when the wheels are on the ground they'll tuck in a little from the camber, and also the tires will have enough of a taper to them.

http://www.bryantroll.com/other/fenderclearance.jpg

I think you should change the name of this thread to troll's bugeye thinks its dimitri's car with soon to be really bad rubbing.

[D Money]

haha hell yeah!

[TROLL]

you know i'd like to do that, but i just cant bring myself to :wink:

tires are getting mounted now... god i hope they dont rub!!!

[JettaMan17]

dude, the car looks amazing. congrats

[TROLL]

ok, got the new wheels and tires put on today... i dont know how i feel about it to be honest, maybe it'll take some getting used to. they definitely stick out a lot farther than the stock wheels, changes the look of the stance a good bit. the wheels/tires stick out farther than the fender in the rear, and over a big bump it did rub on my first drive... but just cruising around i'm fine since the car isnt slammed.

http://www.bryantroll.com/other/RPF1s/mounted1.jpg

http://www.bryantroll.com/other/RPF1s/mounted2.jpg

http://www.bryantroll.com/other/RPF1s/mounted3.jpg

[jjm4life]

rpf1s look awesome.personally i like how they stick out a bit. mine stick out on my evo, especially in the front. i am debating buying spacers for the rear just so it matches.

great wheels

[james_ls]

Dump it Bryan.

[philly_s14]

im loving the rpf1's! im looking to pick up set sometime soon.

the car looks awesome.

[TROLL]

new photos from today...

http://www.bryantroll.com/other/wrxislandbeach/email_DSC3340.jpg


http://www.bryantroll.com/other/wrxislandbeach/email_DSC3369.jpg


http://www.bryantroll.com/other/wrxislandbeach/email_DSC3385.jpg

[D Money]

roll the fenders, lower the car, and maybe run a 3mm spacer up front. The rear tires look like they stick out a little more than the front.

Other than that, your car is finally coming together. I definately like the look.

[TROLL]

haha you say that like you dont know who you're talking to. no spacers, thanks. the fronts fit perfect, the rears are too wide, IMO, and in my rear fenders' opinion too. this ish rubs, and i dont even know if rolling the fenders will be enough for the rears. i'm gonna try it and we'll see what happens. car is already low enough for me although the uneven sand in the 2nd pic makes the rear look higher than it is.
but thanks, as soon as these stop rubbing hardcore i think i'll like them :) till then i'm going back to the stock bbs wheels :(

[sisforsurfing]

I haven't gone "oh, damn" in a good way when looking at pictures online recently. These made me do that, really nice shots.
Honestly in the first pictures I didn't really like the wheels, but these are making me change my mind. I'll have to see it in person.

[D Money]

Run more camber, roll the fenders, no more rubbing...

[whitezenki]

Run more camber, roll the fenders, no more rubbing...

This will work perfectly, another one or two degrees of camber and a roll will set you up looking raw as hell. Make the car fit the wheels!!

[TROLL]

yeah i kept thinking my rear camber was maxed at -1.4, which is true... but i'm thinking backwards and thats actually the most positive i can get it. i can get another degree or two more negative. i'd really like to not go past -2 though for wear/handling purposes... i need more neg camber in the front than the rear if i want the car to ever rotate!
this cars primary purpose is to rip, not to look good (duh! its a subaru :wink:). function over form, so we'll see if i can pull off both, but if not...

[whitezenki]

get your toe setup right and tire wear wont even be a concern!

[teh DIRT]

500 and ill take those ugly wheels off your hands. tires too, well all know they are crap. :)

[TROLL]

what do you mean? 0 toe all around and its going to stay that way, but i think running -3 front and -2 rear camber on a car that spends 98% of the time on the street is starting to push it a bit.

hahahah.... pete, if you pulled out your sawzall and cut these wheels in half right down the middle i'm still not sure you could fit them without rubbing :wink:

[teh DIRT]

only thing id need a sazsaw for is the fenders. you know how i do.

[whitezenki]

Generally lowering your car then not readjusting your toe is what affects tire wear far more than camber. Talk to Wissasss or whatever his name is about suspension setup, I guarantee he could give you more reasons behind it then I can myself.

[D Money]

Read the wide tire thread on Nasioc. Kids are pushing 295's all day stock fenders, not rubbing a bit.

[teh DIRT]

its not the tires all the time D, its the wheels. And running -10 camber might work but it wont....work.

[D Money]

Do you wanna see 17x10 +25 with 275's on a sti without rubbing? I can show you. :wink:

AutoX monster!

[whitezenki]

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s143/whitezenki/192259827_2abef1c607_b-1.jpg
-7 degrees of camber, 0 toe, 0 caster, daily driven and almost even tire wear. I'm lookin for the pic after 1000 miles, this may be close to it, but there is one post where he comes out and says how longs its been. Yes -7 is extreme, but if you get your toe and caster reset to 0 with the drop, its gonna wear pretty good, especially with only -2 to -3

And yes I know thats hella extreme for AWD, buts its just to push you to the only -2 or -3 youll need to fit those wheels without any issues at all.

[teh DIRT]

http://static.flickr.com/45/192259827_2abef1c607_b.jpg
7 degrees of camber, 0 toe, 0 caster, daily driven and almost even tire wear. I'm lookin for the pic after 1000 miles, this may be close to it, but there is one post where he comes out and says how longs its been. Yes -7 is extreme, but if you get your toe and caster reset to 0 with the drop, its gonna wear pretty good, especially with only -2 to -3



if you believed me when I told you that doesnt rub Ill tell ya another one...


thats retarded, sorry.

[whitezenki]

if you believed me when I told you that doesnt rub Ill tell ya another one...


thats retarded, sorry.

of course it rubs, but less than you would think, but i only posted it to show that a measly -2 or -3 can be daily driven without a worry.

[teh DIRT]

well each car is different. We have to worry about fender rubbing and strut rubbing. its a bitch.

[D Money]

do I need to post the D Money signature tuck.

[teh DIRT]

we've seen it enough already.

[D Money]

Maybe.

[whitezenki]

well each car is different. We have to worry about fender rubbing and strut rubbing. its a bitch.

I'm sure you do, I don't have a good idea of how Subaru rear suspensions adjust to camber, it may rub on the strut, it may not? It just seems that the camber can be run to avoid rubbing, Troll just doesn't want to for tire wear and handling purposes. Both of which are not a major deal as long as the surrounding alignment specs are set up properly as well. When you drop a car the toe adjusts just a bit as well, but if it gets setup afterwards then tire wear is hardly a concern, even for daily driving.

And the s-chassis's could blow the Signature D-Money Tuck away! lol I'll restrain from cluttering this thread with that tho

[TROLL]

yeah i think its important to keep in mind that i like to keep things within reason... no project mu brakes, no brides, no custom paint jobs... wait, i feel like someone on here has all of those things, cant put my finger on it though.
seriously though, they're just wheels. i'll roll the fenders and look into adding a little more camber, but i'm not going to compromise the handling of my car or drive around like a little girl because i'm afraid that i'm going to rub because of my wheels/tires. i need to be able to drive the piss out of my car and have it perform to the fullest, even if it compromises my mad tyte looks.
soooooo, we'll see. if the wheels dont work out then they dont, whatever. not gonna worry about it until after i roll the fenders. hopefully i'll be able to get that done sometime this week.

[whitezenki]

Just sayin talk to Wiisass, (R/t, or Import Intelligence also) b/c he definitely knows his stuff about all suspension and alignment settings. I just want you to fit those wheels and be satisfied with them, and I'm like 90% sure you can without sacrificing anywhere, a roll usually goes a long way. I rub and thrash my tires right now, but as soon as I get my roll I know for a fact they will fit, clear everything, and handle really damned well.

plus negative camber is really useful in most anything where handling is involved, and without enough of it, as your suspension compresses in a turn your actually losing contact patch, therefore losing grip in the process. Extreme camber is mostly detrimental to braking, which shouldnt be a concern with only -3 or those new Brembos behind the wheels.

But hope no matter what you do, they fit, b/c they look good!

[TROLL]

thanks man, i appreciate the help. i've talked to him and i'm sure i will again, he's a wealth of knowledge. we'll see how the roll goes and hopefully thats all it takes. like i said i'm not opposed to a little more camber but not a lot, because i need to keep more neg camber in the front than the rear and i dont want it to get out of hand. anyway... yup, update by next weekend hopefully.

[TrboChicsRock]

When are you buying rods?!!?!! :)

[teh DIRT]

When are you buying rods?!!?!! :)

shutup! the last thing we need now is you urging him to build an engine. The 07 STI swap is the way to go.

Now me on the other hand, I be needing the rods. ;)

[TrboChicsRock]

shutup! the last thing we need now is you urging him to build an engine. The 07 STI swap is the way to go.

Now me on the other hand, I be needing the rods. ;)

Ok, 2 sets of rods it is :mrgreen:

He needs to build a motor. All the cool kids are doing it (like me) :cool: :lol:

[teh DIRT]

you dont know what you are getting into jess. Youll be sending him 5 sets of rods, one for each block he is thinking of using, then youll get 4 returned. Then he'll buy one of those sets back and return the first on he kept. This will go on, and on, and on. haha.

[TrboChicsRock]

you dont know what you are getting into jess. Youll be sending him 5 sets of rods, one for each block he is thinking of using, then youll get 4 returned. Then he'll buy one of those sets back and return the first on he kept. This will go on, and on, and on. haha.

Seriously. I think Bryan could start a museum with the amount of wheels/motors/transmissions he owns.

I will be more then welcome to sell him 5 sets of rods. Then when he changes his mind (like usual), I will just convince him that we went out of business so no returns allowed :mrgreen:

[Dave]

pauter machine is your friend ;)

[S4toSTI]

Seriously. I think Bryan could start a museum with the amount of wheels/motors/transmissions he owns.

I will be more then welcome to sell him 5 sets of rods. Then when he changes his mind (like usual), I will just convince him that we went out of business so no returns allowed :mrgreen:

Bryan said to me pertaining to the wagon project i bought "give me 20k and i will do the whole car for you." My response was something to the affect of if i gave you 20k i would have 10 sets of wheels and 5 engines but no complete car. Great guy indecisive as anyone i know.

[TROLL]

Went to Area1320 last night and had Ryan roll my rear fenders... and magically enough they are not rubbing any more (on the street at least). They were previously rubbing when I took an offramp at anything above the posted speed limit and also over every dip in the highway or big bump in the road, but no longer.
The tires are still sitting wider than the fenders are, but I guess for the distance the suspension compresses, I've got enough clearance now. Not sure if they'll rub when I auto-x but I'll find out soon enough.
I finally have the wheels back on my car and I'm happy again :).

[whitezenki]

Yeah, your welcome!

lol, good to hear, I'm sure even auto-x you should be fine. If you can go over a speed bump with them your probably good.

I want to see a pic, just to see where your tires are at!

Good that you're happy.

[CHAOS]

get a pic bryan... sounds like good ish

[TROLL]

ha doesnt really look much different from the outside... same height and everything

....ok and i'm back from the fire alarm that just went off at work? why does it have to be so loud? and why did we go back inside before i had a chance to talk to the super cute girl in the next section over from me?

anyway... yeah same height, etc, although the car looks higher to me with the RPF-1s and 235/40/17s than it looks with the STi BBS and 225/45/17s... not sure if the width, offset, or tire sidewall are the reason, or maybe a bit of each.
i'm going to remeasure the height all around but probably keep it right about the same spot it is now, then go get my alignment rechecked to make sure all is well.
my car has often been photo neglected in the past so i'll try to change that this summer... and of course i'll post the results up here.

[RyanG]

Any rubbing yet???






we still need to get together and talk about some things ;) oh and to give you your wrenches back lol

[Jordanz3]

wow hot car

[CleanNeon98]

looks very good...love the new wheels

[F EVOZ]

Hey what's good Brian? this is Erol the friend of Bruce who came through Sunday early morning to meet up with you for the purchase. (you know lolz) I just had to sign up and say how B-E-A-utiful your car is man......it's truly a very unique and well built car. I still would like to know some numbers on some things we briefly spoke about so whenever you can hit me up so we can talk...looking forward to do some business with you man....and good luck with the future BIG mods man

[popsicle]

http://www.bryantroll.com/other/wrxfeb07.jpg

i wonder where i can get those two red things in the grill and what they are for?
potential to look good in the nsx grill.
Des.

[WKderF]

the red things are german made Hella brand Horns.

and yes, they are hella loud.

you can get them from JNJ associates, a vendor here on TST.

[Buster]

Those are really loud Hella horns. Ebay has them dirt cheap.

[TROLL]

butttt supporting forum vendors is definitely the way to go for the top service and support :wink:
that would be great if the hella craze shifted over to NSX's... ha.

[Buster]

im sorry Fred posted like .0001 before me. I didnt even think about it. sorry vendors

[TROLL]

got a chance to dyno the car last week at the Verocious grand opening... thanks guys!
i'm running a utec with just a somewhat tuned fuel curve but no real fine tuning, and no timing adjustments. as you can tell by the chart my boost isn't building nearly as fast as it could be, i gotta blame that on my wastegate and lack of boost tuning. all in all, decent numbers for what i've got, but the best part is after i put the STi motor in it'll be +100 torque, and 1000 rpms sooner :)

http://www.bryantroll.com/other/verociousdyno.jpg

[Honest_Bob]

Looking good. When are you gonna put the sti motor in?

[CarbonIS]

looks good bryan, can't wait to see the sti numbers

[Jeffros Spec V]

Blah, lets see some real numbers, like a 2.5 bottom end and a Gt35rrrrrrrrrrrrr

[Raven18940]

Has anyone ever fitted a 2.0 crank to a 2.5 block?

[Jeffros Spec V]

Has anyone ever fitted a 2.0 crank to a 2.5 block?

Why? ????

[Raven18940]

Why? ????

Pretty rod/srtoke ratio, which means you have to run less ignition advance which means the engine does less negative work.

[poolmike]

Why? ????

Pretty rod/srtoke ratio, which means you have to run less ignition advance which means the engine does less negative work.

Once again, Why?

[Renegade_]

I don't think you can do that - the 2.5L STi crank can fit in any other 2.5L block that subaru made (a bunch of people on RS forums make hybrids) but I don't think you can use a 2.0L crank. There was a discussion about intercompatibility and someone mentioned the pilot bearings being different but don't quote me on it because god knows if I will be able to find it again... that was a while ago.

instead of building a hybrid with a 2.0L crank I would just take a 2.0L. The stroke is short and the version 8 treated crank has revised oiling holes good for 8500...

[TROLL]

So I haven't really announced it publicly, even though I havent really hidden it either... the Subie is going under the knife for a FULL 2007 STi transplant. Engine, ECU, Wiring, Gauge Cluster, Immobilizer, DCCD, Steering Wheel, Steering Rack, 2007 HVAC/Center Console/E-Brake Handle, 2007 STi Transmission, VF43 Turbo, annnnd a little something extra that I wont reveal just yet :devil:.

Here are photos from last week when we went to clean up the garage and drop off the motor and wiring.

We'll be pulling the car into the garage tomorrow and putting her under the knife. Fitting the swap around busy schedules, so it'll be a slow process but I'm going to make sure everything is done perfectly and no corners are cut.
Transmission, Gauge Cluster, Center Console, Turbo, and the surprise will arrive tomorrow as well.

Click Here to see the full gallery from day 1 (http://s324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Engine%20Swap/Gallery%201/)

ta da
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Engine%20Swap/Gallery%201/071207-STiEngineSwap-10.jpg

ha, first and last time its going to look that clean...
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Engine%20Swap/Gallery%201/071207-STiEngineSwap-104.jpg

whoever said engines arent that heavy has never lifted one
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Engine%20Swap/Gallery%201/071207-STiEngineSwap-16.jpg

its pretty much love
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Engine%20Swap/Gallery%201/071207-STiEngineSwap-28.jpg

onto the engine stand
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Engine%20Swap/Gallery%201/071207-STiEngineSwap-39.jpg

wireless internetz!?!
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Engine%20Swap/Gallery%201/071207-STiEngineSwap-49.jpg

awesome
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Engine%20Swap/Gallery%201/071207-STiEngineSwap-74.jpg

i hate wiring
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Engine%20Swap/Gallery%201/071207-STiEngineSwap-97.jpg

low mileage? thats an understatement
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Engine%20Swap/Gallery%201/071207-STiEngineSwap-103.jpg

Click Here to see the full gallery from day 1 (http://s324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Engine%20Swap/Gallery%201/)

the plan for the near future is:
-APS 3" Turboback thats already on the car
-SSA FMIC and Perrin Intake that are already on the car
-walbro fuel pump thats already on the car
-Aquamist 2d alky injection that's been sitting in my room for a year
-Perrin uppipe that i already own
-TiAL 44mm EWG that i'll have to buy
-Enginuity tune

-stock VF43 turbo, stock injectors, stock turbo inlet... simple simple simple effective effective effective

[TrboChicsRock]

Wow... and I thought my motor was super clean :)

[Signatus230]

Hahahaha. Nice pics. I personally don't think the engine ways that much, its just so damn awkward, there aren't any good places to put your hands under and grip without being afraid it'll drop. Good stuff troll, so where is this located again?

For wiring it all depends on what you are adding to the car, if you are adding a whole new interior, expect to merge alot of stuff, if you are just adding the engine then its really not that bad.

But yea, if you need a hand, just send a PM or w/e and I would be glad to come and help / watch... etc.

=P

[Jeffros Spec V]

Bryan, **** YOU! hahahahahaha I can't wait to see this beast run.

Currently 5 people watching this thread.

[D Money]

Best of luck dude, it's definately going to be sick. It's a good thing you got that hookup because you got this stuff for such a steal.

BTW, that center console thing, does that just fit or does it take modification? You just put the center piece in?

[WKderF]

the center console requires a new lower dash, center console, and relocation of the ebrake. not to mention an automatic a/c system. its deffinitly NOT a drop in installation.

[D Money]

So basically the a/c would be the biggest thing, huh? I mean to aquire those dash components wouldn't be hard, considering we would have to go to one person to get them.

[WKderF]

yeah, A/C and relocation of the ebrake. not exactly a cheap mod since you cannot adapt a manual A/C system to an automatic one. the system, fans, and controls need to replaced with their automatic counterparts.

[D Money]

What does the automatic a/c even do fred? I just like that look, so much nicer than our dashes.

[S4toSTI]

Photos by Bryan Troll / Barry Schwartz hah awesome. Where is my royalty check?

[naDintheHat]

Damn Troll. First an A4 now a 2007 STi swap.. jeez man. Your car was sick to begin with now i don't know what to call it.

[Gorilla Unit 33]

sweet pick up. now is there anything different from the 07 sti motor then the older version sti motor such as vvt? or anything like that? Im not the brightest when it comes to Subaru's so give me an education.

[JET02WRX]

Damn Bryan.... I'm green with envy over here! :mrgreen: I was all proud of myself when I did my own springs, exhaust, and stupid crap like plugs, hoses.....haha.... This is an impressive undertaking! What do you do for a living again!?!
Best of luck man!

[S4toSTI]

What do you do for a living again!?!
Dude your not allowed to ask the don what he does how dare you lol.

[JET02WRX]

Haha... shhh... i tried to trip him up...

[TROLL]

thanks for all the comments, I plan to be taking a lot of photos of the entire process and updating here. we're also hoping to have a live web feed of the swap so if you're bored you can check in, haha.



Damn Troll. First an A4 now a 2007 STi swap.. jeez man. Your car was sick to begin with now i don't what to call it.
yeah my wallet is hurting right now. gotta sell the 'old' sti transmission and the stock wrx engine soon to help the cause...

sweet pick up. now is there anything different from the 07 sti motor then the older version sti motor such as vvt? or anything like that? Im not the brightest when it comes to Subaru's so give me an education.
all of the USDM motors from 04-06 were the same, they all have AVCS which is basically VVT, but its only on the intake side. it was rumored that the pistons were strengthened from 05 on but i havent seen anything concrete there.
in 07 they revised the ECU to make it far more advanced and powerful, and they also revised the head design making it more efficient to run cooler, and it no longer uses sodium filled valves since they say it is no longer necessary. the 07 motors have been making a bit more hp and a good amt more torque than previous STi motors. its not out of the ordinary to see an 07 STi motor make about 320 hp and 350 ft lbs with just exhaust and a tune.
the biggest reason i'm going with an STi motor is that the 2.5L and the AVCS combine to make much better low and midrange power, it just feels like a whole different animal than my 2.0L non-AVCS motor.

Damn Bryan.... I'm green with envy over here! :mrgreen: I was all proud of myself when I did my own springs, exhaust, and stupid crap like plugs, hoses.....haha.... This is an impressive undertaking! What do you do for a living again!?!
Best of luck man!
we're all learning and improving... i started by learning how to change the oil, then got helhp with a boost gauge, boost controller, and an uppipe... then exhaust... then it just went from there. you're just like a year or two off from all of this :). i do photo editing and do freelance photography, and then i make like an extra $100k a year from TST :wink:. a motor swap has been in the works for quite a while, it just happens to all be coming together right now. i really havent touched the WRX much at all in the last 6+ months otherwise.

[Honest_Bob]

What does the automatic a/c even do fred? I just like that look, so much nicer than our dashes.

Climate control. You set it at the desired temp and let it do its thing. I cant say that I really use it to much. :o


Thats gonna be one mean setup Troll. Are you swapping in the entire 07 sti harness?

[ScoobyNubieToo!]

yeah my wallet is hurting right now. gotta sell the 'old' sti transmission and the stock wrx turbo soon to help the cause...


Just remember, if ya need cash you have a blown 03 trans and a good 03 gearset sitting in my gararge. BTW if you need to borrow my garage, I got some time off from work next week....lemme know if ya need teh left.

[Raven18940]

all of the USDM motors from 04-06 were the same, they all have AVCS which is basically VVT, but its only on the intake side. it was rumored that the pistons were strengthened from 05 on but i havent seen anything concrete there.
in 07 they revised the ECU to make it far more advanced and powerful, and they also revised the head design making it more efficient to run cooler, and it no longer uses sodium filled valves since they say it is no longer necessary. the 07 motors have been making a bit more hp and a good amt more torque than previous STi motors. its not out of the ordinary to see an 07 STi motor make about 320 hp and 350 ft lbs with just exhaust and a tune.
the biggest reason i'm going with an STi motor is that the 2.5L and the AVCS combine to make much better low and midrange power, it just feels like a whole different animal than my 2.0L non-AVCS motor.

Any particular reason you chose this over one of them fancy Version 8 2.0's I've heard about?

And climate control FTW! :)

Can't wait to see this thing all done.

[Renegade_]

Any particular reason you chose this over one of them fancy Version 8 2.0's I've heard about?

And climate control FTW! :)

Can't wait to see this thing all done.
These have re-designed heads that flow as good as the heads they got in JDM land and the VF43 turbo has a ported wastegate so it holds boost better. turboback and reflash, nothing more, on the 07 motors is putting down in the range of like 310/370 wheel and holding it better than other years.

Basically subaru got it right in 07

[teh DIRT]

turboback and reflash and thats it? Not if i have anything to do with it!

[poolmike]

I wish I could help out tomorrow. I'll drop off the hoist in the afternoon.

[Renegade_]

turboback and reflash and thats it? Not if i have anything to do with it!
Your right.

Troll? 20G and meth asap - go

[teh DIRT]

no we are talking.

[TROLL]

Any particular reason you chose this over one of them fancy Version 8 2.0's I've heard about?

its really a win win situation, where the 2.0L is high revving and real popular with drag racers while the 2.5L has more power down low... but both are totally badass.
i really like the feel of the 2.5L with the power down low so thats the direction i wanted to head. i was originally going to do the jdm 2.0L heads with a built 2.5L shortblock but it just got to be too expensive for a somewhat experimental hybrid setup.
so... i kinda wanted to go a little safer and more boring with a time-tested complete USDM STi 2.5L Engine, and it really sealed the deal when I found a very low mileage 2007, which is making even more power than previous years. i cant slap a massive turbo on it without some concern for the internals, but thats ok with me, it'll make plenty of power with the stock turbo or a medium sized upgrade.

the plan for the near future is:
-exhaust thats already on the car
-SSA FMIC and Perrin Intake that are already on the car
-walbro fuel pump thats already on the car
-Aquamist 2d alky injection that's been sitting in my room for a year
-Perrin uppipe that i already own
-TiAL 44mm EWG that i'll have to buy
-Enginuity tune

-stock VF43 turbo, stock injectors, stock turbo inlet... simple simple simple effective effective effective

[sisforsurfing]

Keeping it simple always works, and works for a while, effectively. Fortunately for you, your "keep it simple stupid" involves 2.5 liters, AVCS, and a strong, well-geared transmission. Mad jealous.

Is that your garage?? For some reason it doesn't look like it, but it's sooo clean and all laid out. Congrats on getting the space and time (and DD) to do this. Do you know who's doing the OS tune?

Keep us updated for sure.

[On Sale]

actually troll will be car-less tomarrow as i will be detailing his Audi all day, and the wrx is under the knife. lol.

[Raven18940]

These have re-designed heads that flow as good as the heads they got in JDM land and the VF43 turbo has a ported wastegate so it holds boost better. turboback and reflash, nothing more, on the 07 motors is putting down in the range of like 310/370 wheel and holding it better than other years.

Basically subaru got it right in 07
Ooooo, anything exterior wise that sets the 07 apart? I can hang with an old STi, but I think this new one with F me up. :-p

its really a win win situation, where the 2.0L is high revving and real popular with drag racers while the 2.5L has more power down low... but both are totally badass.
i really like the feel of the 2.5L with the power down low so thats the direction i wanted to head. i was originally going to do the jdm 2.0L heads with a built 2.5L shortblock but it just got to be too expensive for a somewhat experimental hybrid setup.
so... i kinda wanted to go a little safer and more boring with a time-tested complete USDM STi 2.5L Engine, and it really sealed the deal when I found a very low mileage 2007, which is making even more power than previous years. i cant slap a massive turbo on it without some concern for the internals, but thats ok with me, it'll make plenty of power with the stock turbo or a medium sized upgrade.

the plan for the near future is:
-exhaust thats already on the car
-SSA FMIC and Perrin Intake that are already on the car
-walbro fuel pump thats already on the car
-Aquamist 2d alky injection that's been sitting in my room for a year
-Perrin uppipe that i already own
-TiAL 44mm EWG that i'll have to buy
-Enginuity tune

-stock VF43 turbo, stock injectors, stock turbo inlet... simple simple simple effective effective effective

Ahhh, midrange grunt over top end power, me likes. :)

EDIT: does this new engine have variable valve goodness on the exhaust cam too?

Well if you need a hand with anything. :wink:

[TROLL]

in the garage now... interior is out, fred is working on taking out the dash. pete and i are doing a compression test before the old motor comes out... so far passenger side is 150, 150.... hopefully the drivers side will be the same.

[teh DIRT]

^^hes a noob and doesnt know anything about cars. gosh. thankgod im here.

[Honest_Bob]

Damn, I wanna watch! I've only see Ryan take out 5 or 6 engines. :-p

[turbo4g63]

you're a madman...this should run pretty well once you get it all put together.

[teh DIRT]

cam feed should be up by tonight or tomorow....still gota figure out the router setting over here.

[Honest_Bob]

cam feed should be up by tonight or tomorow....still gota figure out the router setting over here.

Psh, I'm a fully certified ASE light holder. :wink:

Get that cam up son!

[BlackBulletTSi]

haha wow sickness can't wait to see this thing runnin I need me a new job

[poolmike]

HOLY PROJECT!! I drop off the engine hoist earlier. All kinds of parts lined up like neat little soldiers waiting to get installed.

[TROLL]

ok we're calling it a night and hitting up the meet. motor and tranny are basically ready to come out, we'll be taking care of that in the morning.
fred has the entire interior out including the full dash and has begun breaking down the wiring.
we'll be back here tomorrow for a full day... should have engine and tranny out, then be able to start pulling old engine bay wiring and accessories to start making the transition to the new setup.
one thing still in question is the ABS... wiring is different on the new module and so is the hardline routing... i either need to merge the wiring (if possible, 22 pins on one, 27 on the other), get new hardlines made, or just skip the ABS alltogether. hopefully the functionality of the units is the same and it is possible to merge the wiring.
also need to figure out the fuel filter situation since the older cars had the filter in the engine bay and the new ones have the filter inside the tank.
ok thats it from me, heading out of the garage and over to the meet...

[Uberu]

any pics?

[TROLL]

yeah i tried to take a bunch, its hard when i'm knee deep in doing the work but i'm gonna try to work on getting them online now, hopefully in like a half hour they'll be up...

[guesswho]

Someday i'll do a swap like this, for now I guess i'm going to have to settle with a 2.5 RS motor. Can't wait to see it finished, i'm sure you'll do everything 110%.

[TROLL]

here is day 2, which was thursday...

ok we're calling it a night and hitting up the meet. motor and tranny are basically ready to come out, we'll be taking care of that in the morning.
fred has the entire interior out including the full dash and has begun breaking down the wiring.
we'll be back here tomorrow for a full day... should have engine and tranny out, then be able to start pulling old engine bay wiring and accessories to start making the transition to the new setup.
one thing still in question is the ABS... wiring is different on the new module and so is the hardline routing... i either need to merge the wiring (if possible, 22 pins on one, 27 on the other), get new hardlines made, or just skip the ABS alltogether. hopefully the functionality of the units is the same and it is possible to merge the wiring.
also need to figure out the fuel filter situation since the older cars had the filter in the engine bay and the new ones have the filter inside the tank.
ok thats it from me, heading out of the garage and over to the meet...


ok photoshop was being a bitch tonight but i finally got a photo gallery up...

Click Here for the full gallery from Day 2 (http://s324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Engine%20Swap/Gallery%202/)

just getting started
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Engine%20Swap/Gallery%202/DSC_8382.jpg

2007 6mt hotness
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Engine%20Swap/Gallery%202/DSC_8432.jpg

poolmike for the win
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Engine%20Swap/Gallery%202/DSC_8435.jpg

starting to strip the motor
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Engine%20Swap/Gallery%202/DSC_8441.jpg

lower dash and wheel off
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Engine%20Swap/Gallery%202/DSC_8447.jpg

upper dash off (fred did the work, pete just posed for the camera)
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Engine%20Swap/Gallery%202/DSC_8465.jpg

pretty much detached from everything
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Engine%20Swap/Gallery%202/DSC_8471.jpg

10 pieces down, 10,000 to go
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Engine%20Swap/Gallery%202/DSC_8477.jpg

storage
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Engine%20Swap/Gallery%202/DSC_8488.jpg

stripped
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Engine%20Swap/Gallery%202/DSC_8476.jpg

Click Here for the full gallery from Day 2 (http://s324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Engine%20Swap/Gallery%202/)

[teh DIRT]

holla. FYI: after all of freds unsuccessful yanking...I got the steering wheel off. n00b

[1320wrx]

I installed SS break lines and different fluid today, and I though I did alot of work, I cant imagine how your feeling. Keep up the great work, cant wait to see it done.

[ScoobyNubieToo!]

holla. FYI: after all of freds unsuccessful yanking...I got the steering wheel off. n00b

I guess it just needed less yanking and more wanking! :lol:
J/K Looks pretty scary....you guys got a ton of balls!
I can't wait to see (and hear) how this beast sounds when it's done!

[Honest_Bob]

You guys are moving fast! Good luck.

[teh DIRT]

Yeah and today is going to be even more productive than yesterday. I really hope I can get that webcam up when I get over there. I am having issues with the stream and I dont even think its the router....:screwy:

[CHAOS]

wow man... this is cool as hell.. i had to read up to find out how in depth it was... ill be watching

[Raven18940]

Yeah and today is going to be even more productive than yesterday. I really hope I can get that webcam up when I get over there. I am having issues with the stream and I dont even think its the router....:screwy:

You need a hand with that? I'm an information science major.

[Shades of Gray]

exciting! I call first dibs on tinting for the complete makeover...(lol, I'm biased...I know):mrgreen:

[JET02WRX]

Any bets on how many left over screws there are? :mrgreen:

Turning most of your bugeye wrx into an 07 STi - a bajillion dollars

# of hours spent - 100 bajillion

Not remembering how everything goes back together - Priceless...

j/k guys... you're going lightning fast! Get that CAM up! If my wife forces me to watch anymore TLC i'm going to shoot myself.

[TROLL]

wow why is pete up at 7am? he needs to be getting his sleep!

yeah its a big project, but hey, i've always liked big projects. sometimes i'm kinda like 'why am i messing with this totally decent, not too old, not too cheap car?' and kinda sorta wish i did all this work to an old GC wagon, but eh, you dont see many swapped bugeyes around so it should be pretty unique.

we're labelling all the bolts and putting them into bags, but yeah, so hopefully we wont have any left over, but we'll see... haha. what i'm worried about is the roughly 16,000 connectors that need to be plugged in, hope we nail all of those and dont forget any.

anyway, time to get outta bed, go pick up a hibachi and good food to grill, stop by the stealership, and head out to the garage for another fun filled day of bloody knuckles and coolant in my hair.

[Honest_Bob]

Yeah and today is going to be even more productive than yesterday. I really hope I can get that webcam up when I get over there. I am having issues with the stream and I dont even think its the router....:screwy:

If your using camstreams (same thing Area1320 was using) I could NOT for the life of me get it working with a linksys router. I do this **** for a living too. :o:eek:

[teh DIRT]

bahaha.yeah i use camstreams...but I got it working with my home router....which is the same WRTxxx router. I cant even get the http://localhost:5700 feed to show up in media player.

[piknockout]

<-----Anxiously waits for the final result. :mrgreen:



Nice work Bryan, good luck with the rest of the install. :wink:

[Ender81]

Can't wait to see it when you are done, should be good.

[Intercooled T]

bump for some gutted car pics.

[TROLL]

just checking in... we've got the wheels, suspension, heater core, power steering lines, etc. and the engine and tranny are ready to come out. we're about to hook up the hoist now, pull the engine crossmember and steering linkage, then drop the tranny out the bottom and lift the engine out the top.

[redwrxwagon02]

~builds excitement~ your car is gonna be so sick man gl with the rest of the install

[Nors]

Wow that new tranny is way bigger then I thought.

Sounds like fun, wish I knew more people on here so I could lend a hand. I never knew the swap was that complicated, good luck guys.

[WKderF]

yeah, that steering wheel is total crap. I seriously spent 20 minutes trying to pull it from the car. I know I could have used a puller tool, but we didnt have it & I didnt feel like going to get it. after i had given up, pete sat down & had it out after 2 pulls. F pete.


each time a section of screws, nuts, or bolts gets removed, they are bagged & marked with their location.


the main chassis harness is about half-way ready to be removed. the bumpers & fenders have to come off to get to all the plugs & sensors so we can remove the entire harness. I also had to pick up a set of tamper resistant Torx bits to remove the sensitive airbag sensors in the bumper, dash, and "B" pillars. (btw: Snap-On rocks) next step for us is to remove the A/C fans & ducting, then the chassis harness will come out.


stay tuned.

[Raven18940]

Did you guys solve the ABS unit problem yet?

[EvlEgl]

Seems Like WAY to much work to make this happen...Why not buy a 07 sti??

[JET02WRX]

Why do people climb Mt. Everest? Because they can! Doing swaps like this is like mad scientist type of work. Everyone gets off on different things. I know I like bugeyes more than the new 06/07 style. Maybe Bryan does too and would rather drive a bugeye STi rather than a new style.

[TROLL]

Seems Like WAY to much work to make this happen...Why not buy a 07 sti??

instead of buying new cars all the time like a lot of kids, i like to continuously evolve mine... and with each step it becomes more of my creation and less of subaru's... although its not 100% logical to do it this way, you gotta understand that 'just buying an 07 sti' is completely different than what i'm doing.

anyway, motor and tranny are out, swapping exhaust manifold and going to pull the rest of the accessory crap out of the engine bay and clean it up so its worthy of accepting the shiny new engine. thats about it for the night, we're gonna crack open some beers and reward our hard work (play).
the fridge is full of burgers, hot dogs, chicken, and beer, and we've got a wood stove out back we're cooking with out back. its coooool.

[1320wrx]

How often are you guys workin on this, I'de deff. be able to give you guys a hand if you want. Let me know, the best days for me are Thursdays.

[teh DIRT]

sometimes too many hands can be too much. We appreciate the offer and if needed will call on it. All done for tonight...car is a shell. I am sure bryan will post a final word.

[Blkmax]

yeah, i didnt know that you guys had that much know how. When i first saw that you were swapping the motor i pictured in a shop, with a lift...but thats not the case, you are all literally hands on. good job.

[Spocknasty]

Good times tonight. I'll get some pics up soon.

[Spocknasty]

http://www.mikespock.com/swap.jpg

So many good shots!

[TROLL]

annnd day 3, which concluded just hours ago...

here are some of my photos from the day...

Click Here for the FULL gallery from day 3 (http://s324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Engine%20Swap/Gallery%203/)

prepping engine for pulling
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Engine%20Swap/Gallery%203/DSC_8491.jpg

engine and tranny split on their own. anyone who's done a tranny or engine can appreciate that a LOT
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Engine%20Swap/Gallery%203/DSC_8503.jpg

ready for lift off
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Engine%20Swap/Gallery%203/DSC_8504.jpg

real easy since we dropped the crossmember and pulled the tranny off first
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Engine%20Swap/Gallery%203/DSC_8520.jpg

shenanigans
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Engine%20Swap/Gallery%203/DSC_8532.jpg

getting real bare inside and out
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Engine%20Swap/Gallery%203/DSC_8561.jpg

old and busted
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Engine%20Swap/Gallery%203/DSC_8573.jpg

new hotness!!
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Engine%20Swap/Gallery%203/DSC_8564.jpg

we also upgraded the fridge. burgers, dogs, chicken, and beer.
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Engine%20Swap/Gallery%203/DSC_8576.jpg

Click Here for the FULL gallery from day 3 (http://s324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/btroll/STi%20Engine%20Swap/Gallery%203/)

swap will be resuming on monday evening, although visually it may not be too impressive in the next day or two's worth of work. lots of little stuff being changed over as well as pulling the old wiring harness and laying the new one. i'll still take plenty of photos though, you know me.

[redline]

Wow, Suby engines look like a mess! Good luck Troll. I love the "Old and Busted" picture with the engine in the corner like it deserved it. Face the wall and shut up.

[teh DIRT]

man i live for this ****!

[ScoobyNubieToo!]

Dude, this is so awesome to see this evolution. Can't wait for the next round of pics.....

[CHAOS]

i really wish, as im sure alot of us do, that i had the resources to pull this off....coming along great guys!

[Shades of Gray]

i don't know why, but here's what I've observed from the latest entries...

1. Fred's car has a great new sticker!:bigeek:

2.Thank goodness you guys have decent beer to reward yourselves with, and not beer that tastes like water(bud, miller light!)

Looks fun.
Ryan

[Raven18940]

instead of buying new cars all the time like a lot of kids, i like to continuously evolve mine... and with each step it becomes more of my creation and less of subaru's... although its not 100% logical to do it this way, you gotta understand that 'just buying an 07 sti' is completely different than what i'm doing.

I'll drink to that, here's to slowly making the car we want rather than the car the market will buy. :)

[S4toSTI]

Wow so i wish you have a before picture of that fridge.

[Intercooled T]

you guys need to invest in some fender covers for gods sake...all that hoisting and no protection to the car!!! :eek:

[Jeffros Spec V]

you guys need to invest in some fender covers for gods sake...all that hoisting and no protection to the car!!! :eek:

http://bryantroll.com/other/stiengineswap/stiswapgallery3/images/DSC_8491.jpg

[TROLL]

funny part is i pull it off for a lot of the photos so you can see the car and whats going on. but yeah we only have 1 there now, i'm gonna bring my other one next time i get out there. for the hoisting though, that engine is... easy to pull out once you free up everything from around it, never really any risk at bumping anything.