sisforsurfing
09-12-2006, 05:04 PM
I finally have a consistent amount of money I can spend (or waste?) on my car. This could take anywhere from until the end of the month until next winter depending on what I decide, but I’m at a cross on what direction I should take. Read on if you’re brave.
My current mods are just an HKS downpipe, Cobb catback, and Samco I/C hoses. That’s it. Obviously next is a catless up-pipe and some sort of management/tuning.
The first, most basic route I can take is to just get an up-pipe, bellmouth downpipe (ridding myself of this HKS wastegate blocker), and Cobb AP. Flash Stage 2 and call it a day.
Pros: Cheapest, very reliable. Cons: Not all that fast. Upgrade options: Can later do a Protune, then even a Big 16G, injectors, fuel pump, and TMIC.
The second option comes from me reading (like lots of Subie people) about EWG’s. If you haven’t, here’s (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=733453) a good starting point. EWG’s on even a wimpy TD04 are awesome for spool, add power, and are even better for your engine supposedly because of the added efficiency. For this setup I’d keep my HKS downpipe. I’d have to; weld or make a bracket for the TD04’s internal wastegate, buy a pre-made or custom make an up-pipe with an place for a wastegate, a Tial 38 or 42 MM, then go to Xotic and get a custom tune.
Pros: Custom tunes make more power than OTS maps anyway, EWG power, spool, efficiency, and sound, and lots of headroom for whatever other parts I want to add. Cons: Almost as expensive as option 3, how much more power than Cobb Stage 2 anyway? Upgrade options: B16G, 18G, FPGreen, TMIC/FMIC, injectors, pump… basically anything and everything that will make my 5MT go boom.
I hadn’t even thought of a third option until I started pricing out EWG stuff… if I saved up a bit more. Instead of getting the EWG, I could get an up-pipe, internally gated B16G, pump, injectors, and Ebay TMIC, then get that setup tuned at Xotic.
Pros: Good power, good spool, happy me. Cons: Lots more cash, thus waiting longer to do anything. Upgrade options: Nothing, I’d probably keep this setup for as long as the car.
…but then I start thinking whether I should just do that with the AP.
Basically I am just trying to gather opinions of what people are thinking they’ll do and what people have done. I have some time to think, but want to get to it in the not-too-distant future.
My current mods are just an HKS downpipe, Cobb catback, and Samco I/C hoses. That’s it. Obviously next is a catless up-pipe and some sort of management/tuning.
The first, most basic route I can take is to just get an up-pipe, bellmouth downpipe (ridding myself of this HKS wastegate blocker), and Cobb AP. Flash Stage 2 and call it a day.
Pros: Cheapest, very reliable. Cons: Not all that fast. Upgrade options: Can later do a Protune, then even a Big 16G, injectors, fuel pump, and TMIC.
The second option comes from me reading (like lots of Subie people) about EWG’s. If you haven’t, here’s (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=733453) a good starting point. EWG’s on even a wimpy TD04 are awesome for spool, add power, and are even better for your engine supposedly because of the added efficiency. For this setup I’d keep my HKS downpipe. I’d have to; weld or make a bracket for the TD04’s internal wastegate, buy a pre-made or custom make an up-pipe with an place for a wastegate, a Tial 38 or 42 MM, then go to Xotic and get a custom tune.
Pros: Custom tunes make more power than OTS maps anyway, EWG power, spool, efficiency, and sound, and lots of headroom for whatever other parts I want to add. Cons: Almost as expensive as option 3, how much more power than Cobb Stage 2 anyway? Upgrade options: B16G, 18G, FPGreen, TMIC/FMIC, injectors, pump… basically anything and everything that will make my 5MT go boom.
I hadn’t even thought of a third option until I started pricing out EWG stuff… if I saved up a bit more. Instead of getting the EWG, I could get an up-pipe, internally gated B16G, pump, injectors, and Ebay TMIC, then get that setup tuned at Xotic.
Pros: Good power, good spool, happy me. Cons: Lots more cash, thus waiting longer to do anything. Upgrade options: Nothing, I’d probably keep this setup for as long as the car.
…but then I start thinking whether I should just do that with the AP.
Basically I am just trying to gather opinions of what people are thinking they’ll do and what people have done. I have some time to think, but want to get to it in the not-too-distant future.