View Full Version : So I Ran from FEDS or ATF or something!!!
Last weekend my wife and I are driving home in the G35. Its close to midnight, and we are on the turnpike near exit 13.
Much to my surprise, there was a bit of traffic.
So anyway, I'm crusing at about 75-80ish, with traffic. Well I'm in the center lane, and I blinker, and move over to the fast lane. About 30 secs after moving over, a black excursion with solid black tinted windows gets within inches of my bumber and puts on his lights.
I'm like WTF? I brake checked him and then moved over back to the center lane. So he turned off his lights. I'm thinking "Asshole".
So I move to the 3rd lane, pass a car or two, and then move back to center...well next thing I know, a black excursion gets in front of me, and one behind me, and the front one slows down, and the back one gets on my ass again. Both suddenly put on their lights.
I said to my wife to just hold on cuz I wasn't about to pull over for unmarked SUVs. I brake checked the guy behind me, and he almost hit me, and I gave him the finger as I cut the wheel to the left into the fast lane. Well the guy in front swerved over and I had to go all the way on the shoulder near the cement barrier to avoid him slamming right into the side of me. I fly past like 4 cars on the shoulder, and I get back into the lanes. In my review I see both Excursions with their lights still on.
Well suddenly, a tinted out Suburban outta no where puts his lights on, and jumps in front of me. At this point I'm ding like 95mph to get away. Well he slams on his brakes in front of me and I go to cut over to the right again, and he cuts over at the same time, and I almost was sandwiched between him and the barrier.
I slammed my brakes, and cut back to the right, behind the guy and went all the way onto the right hand shoulder... Just then an exit was coming up, so I got on it enough to get passed maybe another 3 or 4 cars, then I shot back over to the lanes. I'm doing about 110-120 at this point.
Now all 3 are attempting to follow with lights on of course not as easy seeming as they are SUVs. So I braked to about 90mph and flew right through the open areas that say "For Official Use Only". The ones that are between the car lanes and the cars, trucks, buses lane. So I almost hit the guardrail as I fly over to the truck lanes, I swear to god I got airbourne for a sec. My wife is flipping. I'm doing 140+mph now and just gaining farther and farther on them, as they weren't able to cut over like I did.
Finally I get the state police on the phone, (I was trying to do this while running from the SUVs.) I tell the state police where I am and what happened, and how they almost killed me and my wife, and how I was doing over 100mph and how I cut over to get away.
Well he says to me if I see them again, to just stay away from them!!! :jawdrop: I'm like WTF?
So anyway, I never see them again. Weird thing is, I told my brother the next day, and he reminded me what him and I saw on our way home from work one day...and that's when I was like "Oh ****!!" :jawdrop:
Him and I saw 2 tinted out, black excursions with some big ass biker lady pulled over, they had guns drawn on her, and they were in masks.
I'm assuming then that they are Feds or ATF...Alcohol, Tabacco, and Firearms. I hear the ATF wear masks because they do undercover drug busts and whatnot.
JDMISACULT
09-09-2006, 03:55 PM
damn dude that sounds like one crazy adventure you had there
ScoobyNubieToo!
09-09-2006, 04:04 PM
Dude that's the funniest shi** I ever read......
bastid
09-09-2006, 04:09 PM
I don't want to sound doubting of you, but why wait a week to post this up? It sounds pretty far fetched. Just playing devil's advocate... if something this crazy happened to me, I'd either post it immediately or not post it at all...
Crzyguy972
09-09-2006, 04:09 PM
wow good story
S4toSTI
09-09-2006, 04:09 PM
This thread is gonna be good but let me start. They had blue and red lights? And when you say put their lights on thats what u mean?
DocEwww
09-09-2006, 04:11 PM
Mark u have too much free time on your hands.
I don't want to sound doubting of you, but why wait a week to post this up? It sounds pretty far fetched. Just playing devil's advocate... if something this crazy happened to me, I'd either post it immediately or not post it at all...
Actually I waited because after talking with the state police, I didn't know if anything would come of it, because I had gotten one of their license plates. I told the cop I would press charges.
Its been a week and nothing, so I am assuming that it probably was cops, and thats wht the staties never called me back.
This thread is gonna be good but let me start. They had blue and red lights? And when you say put their lights on thats what u mean?
Yes I meant red and blue lights.
DocEwww
09-09-2006, 04:14 PM
I meant free time as far as time to post this story
JoeScooby
09-09-2006, 04:17 PM
you shoulda got that ish on camera
D Money
09-09-2006, 04:22 PM
wow dude, that's wild.
bastid
09-09-2006, 04:27 PM
Actually I waited because after talking with the state police, I didn't know if anything would come of it, because I had gotten one of their license plates. I told the cop I would press charges.
Its been a week and nothing, so I am assuming that it probably was cops, and thats wht the staties never called me back.
Yes I meant red and blue lights.
That makes sense I guess. But why would you brake check a car flashing red and blues at you? That makes no sense at all.
wgknestrick
09-09-2006, 04:28 PM
http://my.break.com/Media/View.aspx?ContentID=146629
Amazing footage of described chase :roll:
delspool
09-09-2006, 04:28 PM
wait, you admitted to the cops you were doing 100+ mph? did you get a ticket or anything?
That makes sense I guess. But why would you brake check a car flashing red and blues at you? That makes no sense at all.
I agree, it doesn't. But as I maybe didn't make clear enough in my post, I wasn't doing anything wrong. At the time, I was in traffic crusing just like everyone else.
Also, this is probably what influenced my actions the most. #1. I had some white SUV on the TP flash lights at me b4, cept I could see insite his truck, and he was not a cop, just someone with those fake lights.
#2. I didn't know what else to do, when the guy was literally INCHES from my bumper. Dude, I've tapped my brakes on marked cops before if they are riding me, I don't give a ****, I hate that stuff.
Vypurr2
09-09-2006, 04:31 PM
Yeah... Who brake checks a police car with flashing lights?
wait, you admitted to the cops you were doing 100+ mph? did you get a ticket or anything?
No I didn't get a ticket. That is part of the reason I waited to post. I was expecting a letter in the mail or something.
You guys can call this BS or not, but it was on the way home from a friends wedding, and I even told some few friends and they couldn't believe it.
Not sure if I would believe it myself, but its 100% the truth.
I gave the State Police the one license plate I had, and thats when he said just stay away from them.
Yeah... Who brake checks a police car with flashing lights?
What part of, it was UNMARKED doesn't make sense? If NJ you DO NOT have to pull over for an unmarked vehicle. I called #77 which is the aggressive drivers #, and asked for the state police for the turnpike.
bastid
09-09-2006, 04:35 PM
I agree, it doesn't. But as I maybe didn't make clear enough in my post, I wasn't doing anything wrong. At the time, I was in traffic crusing just like everyone else.
Also, this is probably what influenced my actions the most. #1. I had some white SUV on the TP flash lights at me b4, cept I could see insite his truck, and he was not a cop, just someone with those fake lights.
#2. I didn't know what else to do, when the guy was literally INCHES from my bumper. Dude, I've tapped my brakes on marked cops before if they are riding me, I don't give a ****, I hate that stuff.
You mean aside from speeding, right? Sucks if this really happened, but if the Feds or ATF wanted you they would have been waiting at your house by the time you got back there that evening. I still detect an element of BS (not that you are lying, but that the story as explained doesn't add up).
delspool
09-09-2006, 04:38 PM
What part of, it was UNMARKED doesn't make sense? If NJ you DO NOT have to pull over for an unmarked vehicle. I called #77 which is the aggressive drivers #, and asked for the state police for the turnpike.
isnt it against the law to talk on your cell phone while driving? lol
You mean aside from speeding, right? Sucks if this really happened, but if the Feds or ATF wanted you they would have been waiting at your house by the time you got back there that evening. I still detect an element of BS (not that you are lying, but that the story as explained doesn't add up).
Thats fine, you can think what you want my friend. But I've never been one to just post up a BS story for nothing. Everything is as described.
I'm assuming he put on his lights the 1st time, because I got inbetween him and the one in front of him, and he must have not liked it.
Dude my wife was in the car, I wouldn't post BS like that.
And yes, they could have been waiting, unless it wasn't cops and it was just people with fake lights.
Its not impossible. I can get a kit for my car for about $500 with flashing blue and red lights they install in the headlights.
From the way they almost ran me off the road, I'd be more willing to say they were some douche bags trying to mess with me.
SUB2.5RS
09-09-2006, 04:42 PM
Dude this is wild. But I probly would of done the same thing, i mean theres some messed up people out there who knows the could of been trying to steal your car or something.
Dude this is wild. But I probly would of done the same thing, i mean theres some messed up people out there who knows the could of been trying to steal your car or something.
Thank you. I have this posted on other forums as well, and on one of them, a few people told me that I was being an ass and that I put myself and my wife in danger, to which I explained to them that I wasn't about to pull over when I had NO IDEA WHO they were. Who knows if they weren't cops, what they might have tried to do to me or worse, my wife. I'm not having that on my conscience. I'd rather run and get a summons later.
Either way, the State Police have a record of my phone call.
zerioustt
09-09-2006, 04:53 PM
You mean aside from speeding, right? Sucks if this really happened, but if the Feds or ATF wanted you they would have been waiting at your house by the time you got back there that evening. I still detect an element of BS (not that you are lying, but that the story as explained doesn't add up).
they could of been on there way to a bust. if so following a guy who brake checked him and was speeding isnt a big bust. so if they really did want him they def could of got him. most likely like he said just trying to scare him.
also what does he have to gain making up some rediculous a$s story for??
anyway thats some crazy stuff right there and i would of done the same thing. unmarked dont mean shat to me. ive heard to many crazy stories of psychos with crown vics trying to rob/rape people.
as the great nwa said f the police:supz:
they could of been on there way to a bust. if so following a guy who brake checked him and was speeding isnt a big bust. so if they really did want him they def could of got him. most likely like he said just trying to scare him.
also what does he have to gain making up some rediculous a$s story for??
anyway thats some crazy stuff right there and i would of done the same thing. unmarked dont mean shat to me. ive heard to many crazy stories of psychos with crown vics trying to rob/rape people.
as the great nwa said f the police:supz:
Thank you, I'm glad someone sees where I'm coming from. They had no sirens or anything.
If they were on their way to a bust, then they sure didn't look like it. No lights on or anything, til I merged in front of one of em.
Even the officer on the phone with me asked me "Do they look like they were on their way to an emergency?" And I replied "No sir, they had no lights on until I moved over into his lane" to which he said "Well just stay away from them, and we will notify the cops in that area".
zerioustt
09-09-2006, 05:02 PM
Thank you, I'm glad someone sees where I'm coming from. They had no sirens or anything.
If they were on their way to a bust, then they sure didn't look like it. No lights on or anything, til I merged in front of one of em.
Even the officer on the phone with me asked me "Do they look like they were on their way to an emergency?" And I replied "No sir, they had no lights on until I moved over into his lane" to which he said "Well just stay away from them, and we will notify the cops in that area".
well if they were feds/atf i dont think they pronounce when there coming..lol.
def some crazy ****...the government is shady all around.
bastid
09-09-2006, 05:32 PM
I didn't mean to imply that you were lying about anything in your story, but somewhere along the line there is some BS. Maybe it's the 2 excursions being BS cops, for instance. Although, I could understand one vehicle doing that, but 2 or 3? That's what throws me off. Either way, I'm glad you and your wife made it out of the situation safely.
I didn't mean to imply that you were lying about anything in your story, but somewhere along the line there is some BS. Maybe it's the 2 excursions being BS cops, for instance. Although, I could understand one vehicle doing that, but 2 or 3? That's what throws me off. Either way, I'm glad you and your wife made it out of the situation safely.
Thank you...as I said, I'm sure some of it does sound like I'm fibbing, but thats what had my wife flipping out, the fact that there was more then one of them.
Thats what has me a little torn as well. I can't decide if I think it was a bunch of idiots with fake lights just ****ing with me, or if it was cops.
Drftpretty
09-09-2006, 05:42 PM
Sounds like that Russian Death squad Sandy hired to settle your little dispute.
elmer1987
09-09-2006, 05:45 PM
u shouldnt call the po po u should call tst
silver05bullet
09-09-2006, 05:46 PM
man i would of bounced on them pussies too eff the police
Drftpretty
09-09-2006, 05:47 PM
I owuldnt pull over from anyone unless they display some kind of official identification or lights or something.
Thats asking to have your facial skin peeled off and used as a mask.
elmer1987
09-09-2006, 05:49 PM
lol it would be phat to have like 10 cars waitin for them at the next exit
97TurboDSM
09-09-2006, 05:51 PM
thats some crazy chit right there, glad you and your wife returned home safely.
CHAOS
09-09-2006, 06:31 PM
this is like some movie ****. sounds like a rush man.
awdlaserbeam
09-09-2006, 06:44 PM
Even the officer on the phone with me asked me "Do they look like they were on their way to an emergency?" And I replied "No sir, they had no lights on until I moved over into his lane" to which he said "Well just stay away from them, and we will notify the cops in that area".
Yea i would not have pulled over unless they properly identified themselves. There is nothing illegal about it. But sounds like they were some form of government authority that was on their way to do something and when you called the police they knew what was going on but just wanted to drop it.
revenant
09-09-2006, 07:33 PM
I can def. believe this story. A friend of mine spotted something similar to what your describing (minus the flashing lights and boxing in). I forget what highway he was on, but he was going at least 80 in right lane since there was no traffic or anything. Then he said all of a sudden 3 black SUV's went flying past him going 100+ all in a row. He sped up a little to tail them but they just went faster and faster, taking up both lanes. He started coming up on a section where alot of cops usually radar so he slowed down, but the SUV's kept speeding along and he eventually lost sight of them.
Yea i would not have pulled over unless they properly identified themselves. There is nothing illegal about it. But sounds like they were some form of government authority that was on their way to do something and when you called the police they knew what was going on but just wanted to drop it.
Well thats what I thought too. That the SP must have known something, because of the way he just told me to "Stay away from them". I even gave him my cell phone # and told them to call me back if they catch them because I wanted to press charges.
Think I ever got a call back? Nope. And I've used the #77 before and I've seen the people get pulled over, so I know it works...I agree with you.
chaos311clarity - Yeah, it was a rush and a half...I was extremly livid after everything though...it took my wife quite awhile to calm me down.
I can def. believe this story. A friend of mine spotted something similar to what your describing (minus the flashing lights and boxing in). I forget what highway he was on, but he was going at least 80 in right lane since there was no traffic or anything. Then he said all of a sudden 3 black SUV's went flying past him going 100+ all in a row. He sped up a little to tail them but they just went faster and faster, taking up both lanes. He started coming up on a section where alot of cops usually radar so he slowed down, but the SUV's kept speeding along and he eventually lost sight of them.
Yep. Where are you from? My brother and one of my friends have seen them before too. My brother saw them 2 times. Once in my town, 3 black SUVs. He said they were flying down the road, on each others asses, but just no lights on. Then he seen them again like 2 months later on RT. 70.
G1GSX
09-09-2006, 11:53 PM
if it was in pa id be able to tell you i know pa has two unmarked black excursions with tint and chrome rims , two purple 99 jaguars , two white h1 hummers , and a few others
EvlEgl
09-10-2006, 12:03 AM
Good thing you were in a g35. I dunno if the mustang would'a Been able to maunver as nimbly as the Gee35 ;)
Nice writing skills...I love reading well written stories. Makes em feel like I'm actually there...Crazy as that sounds the world today and everything that can happen...I'm not suprised.
I hope that never happens to me...The talon would probably break down.
ToyotaTat
09-10-2006, 12:08 AM
being the dumbass i am if there was only one suv i wouldnt have though twice and pulled over
I hope that never happens to me...The talon would probably break down.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :iagree:
Well thats what I thought too. That the SP must have known something, because of the way he just told me to "Stay away from them". I even gave him my cell phone # and told them to call me back if they catch them because I wanted to press charges.
Think I ever got a call back? Nope. And I've used the #77 before and I've seen the people get pulled over, so I know it works...I agree with you.
chaos311clarity - Yeah, it was a rush and a half...I was extremly livid after everything though...it took my wife quite awhile to calm me down.
It seems the beginning of the story started with you brake checking an unmarked with warning lights. Not only is brake checking anyone pretty stupid, but brake checking someone with lights, even if it is unmarked, is even dumber.
Of course they will probably never follow up because what they did was technically illegal, but I hope for your wife's saftey and the safety of others around you, you will just let the assholes pass you from now on.
Nothing like cleaning up a 100+ mph wreck on the TP.
It seems the beginning of the story started with you brake checking an unmarked with warning lights. Not only is brake checking anyone pretty stupid, but brake checking someone with lights, even if it is unmarked, is even dumber.
Of course they will probably never follow up because what they did was technically illegal, but I hope for your wife's saftey and the safety of others around you, you will just let the assholes pass you from now on.
Nothing like cleaning up a 100+ mph wreck on the TP.
No, No, they didn't want to just pass, you missed the 1st part, re-read it.
When I first moved over into the fast lane, I didn't notice him behind me until he got up on me so close I couldn't move, then he put his lights on. I wasn't speeding at the time. I moved back into the center lane, and he immediatly turned off his lights. It was several minutes later that I passed a car on the right, and got back into the center lane, which is when they both then decided to really start messing with me.
As far as brake checking people. I don't think its a stupid thing to do. People are not suppose to tailgate, cop or not. Tailgating someone is so bad, because it leaves you NO room to take action if the person in front of you has to stop or swerve suddenly for some reason. I've seen WAY too many accidents because of people tailgating someone. A cop is not about the laws that they are suppose to uphold and protect.
If someone hits me, when I tap my brakes, then that means they were way to close to me, and now they have to pay for the damage to my car...simple as that. Then maybe next time, they won't tailgate someone.
No, No, they didn't want to just pass, you missed the 1st part, re-read it.
About 30 secs after moving over, a black excursion with solid black tinted windows gets within inches of my bumber and puts on his lights.
I'm like WTF? I brake checked him and then moved over back to the center lane. So he turned off his lights. I'm thinking "Asshole".
So what am I not understanding? You moved into the fast lane, someone was going faster then you and got on your ass and you brake checked him. Not only are you now putting yourself in danger, but you are also endangering the people around you.
Sure, people are not supposed to tailgate, and they are being dangerous, but aren't you now doing the same?
"A “Brake check” occurs when you are driving and you feel that the vehicle following you is tailgating your vehicle. So you react to this situation by quickly applying your brakes in an attempt to get the other driver’s attention so he will back off.
This action might make you feel better, but it can cause the other driver to react in an unexpected manner. If you cause this driver to have an accident, causing injury or property damage, then you will be held accountable for your actions." -Cpl. Jim Closser
Just move over next time. I'm glad that you feel good about the fact that the person you brake checked could kill some innocent lady and her child trying to avoid ramming into you. Tough driving is as bad as e-thugging.
The question is do you think the whole situation could have been avoided if you just moved over in the first place without the little tap on the brake? Instead you went rocketing down the highway at 140+mph? Thats safe. I like the "airborne" part too.
So what am I not understanding? You moved into the fast lane, someone was going faster then you and got on your ass and you brake checked him. Not only are you now putting yourself in danger, but you are also endangering the people around you.
Sure, people are not supposed to tailgate, and they are being dangerous, but aren't you now doing the same?
"A “Brake check” occurs when you are driving and you feel that the vehicle following you is tailgating your vehicle. So you react to this situation by quickly applying your brakes in an attempt to get the other driver’s attention so he will back off.
This action might make you feel better, but it can cause the other driver to react in an unexpected manner. If you cause this driver to have an accident, causing injury or property damage, then you will be held accountable for your actions." -Cpl. Jim Closser
Just move over next time. I'm glad that you feel good about the fact that the person you brake checked could kill some innocent lady and her child trying to avoid ramming into you. Tough driving is as bad as e-thugging.
The question is do you think the whole situation could have been avoided if you just moved over in the first place without the little tap on the brake? Instead you went rocketing down the highway at 140+mph? Thats safe. I like the "airborne" part too.
People like yourself are so freakin dense its ridiculous.
What part of I DID MOVE OVER....didn't you understand?
He was NOT going faster then me. He was a good distance back, otherwise I WOULDN'T have gotten into the fast lane to begin with. Not UNTIL I got in front of him, did he decide to speed up and ride me...and I MOVED OVER.
The brake check the 1st time is IRRELEVENT because he TURNED HIS LIGHTS BACK OFF.
As far as if he slammed into some mother and her kid...trying to avoid my braking..then OH WELL. It would have been his fault NOT mine. If he wasn't tailing me...then he wouldn't have had to swerve and hit someone if that was the case. The accident would be on his shoulders NOT mine.
I'd rather know my wife is safe them someone I never met. Call me cold, heartless, cruel, irresponsible, whatever, but thats how it is, and thats how I am. If you don't like it...tough.
You make it sound as if I went rocketing away from the start. I didn't. READ READ READ. :screwy: That was at the end...when I HAD THE STATE POLICE on the phone.
I attempted to avoid the situation by moving over. I thought I had when he turned his lights BACK OFF, and LEFT THEM OFF for 5 minutes or more.
Cops don't put their lights on, then turn them back off...then wait, and turn them back on again.
P.S Its funny how even the cop on the phone with me told me to just do whatever I had to, to stay away from them...hmmm.
People like yourself are so freakin dense its ridiculous.
As far as if he slammed into some mother and her kid...trying to avoid my braking..then OH WELL. It would have been his fault NOT mine. I'd rather know my wife is safe them someone I never met. Call me cold, heartless, cruel, irresponsible, whatever, but thats how it is, and thats how I am. If you don't like it...tough.
You are calling me dense? IT WOULD BE YOUR FAULT. Tailing you did not cause the accident. YOU MAKING THEM SWERVE caused the accident. Am I missing something? Trust me, I hate aggressive drivers and I always hope that they get whats coming to them, but I will not cause more trouble by adding to the situation.
Cold, heartless, cruel and irresponsible? Nah, I called it already. Like I said, driving like a tough guy is as bad as e-thugging.
I'm going to take that last statement you made about killing others to save yourself as your final word, and leave it at that.
Again, I always hope that aggressive drivers get whats coming to them, and it seems that it applies to you as well.
Happy motoring.
You are calling me dense? IT WOULD BE YOUR FAULT. Tailing you did not cause the accident. YOU MAKING THEM SWERVE caused the accident. Am I missing something? Trust me, I hate aggressive drivers and I always hope that they get whats coming to them, but I will not cause more trouble by adding to the situation.
Cold, heartless, cruel and irresponsible? Nah, I called it already. Like I said, driving like a tough guy is as bad as e-thugging.
I'm going to take that last statement you made about killing others to save yourself as your final word, and leave it at that.
Again, I always hope that aggressive drivers get whats coming to them, and it seems that it applies to you as well.
Happy motoring.
And that is why you are dense. I am not, was not driving aggressivly, but upon being provoked, or put into a situation, I will act.
Funny thing is....if this whole thing never happened...and say I was driving down the road, and someone was tailing me, and I hit my brakes suddenly because a car in front of me braked, or a deer ran out in front of me...and the guy tailing me hit someone...
People like you would be all over the guy tailing saying how it was his fault for tailing...yada yada....same rule applies here. Don't tailgate.
That's fine if you would care to drop if, I think we agree to disagree anyways.
PotenzaSub
09-10-2006, 11:41 AM
WTF? Did I just read a 1st person summary of an action movie coming out soon??
That was crazy. What did you wife say after you lost the them? And why would the ATF be after you???
Actually, it sounds like fun. Maybe I'll take a night-time drive around that area some time. lol
endlessmyk
09-10-2006, 11:43 AM
I hope that never happens to me...The talon would probably break down.
tru story.
But yeah, I've heard lots of instances of "unmarked cars" pulling people over, then robbing them, etc.. Hell, when I lived in NY there was actually a notice from the SP to not pull over for unmarked cars and instead find the safest place to stop at and call or something like that.
Glad to hear you made it out ok, though.
tru story.
But yeah, I've heard lots of instances of "unmarked cars" pulling people over, then robbing them, etc.. Hell, when I lived in NY there was actually a notice from the SP to not pull over for unmarked cars and instead find the safest place to stop at and call or something like that.
Glad to hear you made it out ok, though.
Yeah I remember that. Some of my wife's family lives there, and they told us that as well.
A couple years back, in NJ, I remember when it was on the news that the number of crimes from people impersonating cops was on the rise, and that a string of them particularly were happening in NJ and they were on the lookout for them. That is when I first heard about not having to pull over for an unmarked vehicle.
JET02WRX
09-10-2006, 12:15 PM
tru story.
But yeah, I've heard lots of instances of "unmarked cars" pulling people over, then robbing them, etc.. Hell, when I lived in NY there was actually a notice from the SP to not pull over for unmarked cars and instead find the safest place to stop at and call or something like that.
Glad to hear you made it out ok, though.
Ditto man... That stuff definately happens. I know I read something in the paper about that happening on the turnpike here in PA a couple times in recent years.
As far as the brake checking argument...I don't blame 05GT. I've done it before too. I don't agree that brake checking is an aggressive act. If anything its defensive, so as to get the jerk to back off. I don't tailgate and I expect not to be tailgated. And if I can't move over and get out of the way of someone riding my ass, you bet i'm going to brake check them. If a rear end situation did occur, it wouldn't be my fault because at that point it becomes he said/she said. How do they know I wasnt tapping my brakes because I saw brake lights in front of me? And what if I WAS tapping them because of seeing brake lights in front of me? The law says you are to have control of your vehicle at all times. Thats why most of the time, if your car is damaged in the front section...its most likely going to be written up as your fault.
revenant
09-10-2006, 01:14 PM
Yep. Where are you from? My brother and one of my friends have seen them before too. My brother saw them 2 times. Once in my town, 3 black SUVs. He said they were flying down the road, on each others asses, but just no lights on. Then he seen them again like 2 months later on RT. 70.
I'm from berks county and I'm pretty sure he spotted them somewhere on 422
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