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StreetEG
09-07-2006, 02:55 PM
nice.

D Money
09-07-2006, 03:04 PM
"OMG you idiot you are so ****ed ROFL"

Intercooled T
09-07-2006, 03:24 PM
How well-mannered was the cop? If he didn't seem too outraged, my guess is he'll knock it down to 20 over (55 in a 35) and you'll pay a few hundred dollars + points

Just my guess...unless he pulled you over and was like 'wtf were you thinking'

I did 35 in a 15mph school zone before, and the cop was cool and knocked it down, but i didn't have any previous points like you do....let us know how it goes, you're never the first to be in a crummy situation like this

StreetEG
09-07-2006, 03:35 PM
nah he was pretty outraged. He said he gunned me at 88 and thats what it says on the ticket. I dont know how that transfers to trying to get it knocked down in court--- but i tried to be as nice as possible but i guess he didnt want to hear it...

Intercooled T
09-07-2006, 03:37 PM
sounds like you'll have a ball in court. judge was pretty pissed at me in court, but the officer did lower the charge. I would contact the officer before your court date, apologize, and ask him if he would consider lowering the charge if indeed it's a mandatory court appearence.

talk to officer, plead not guilty to lesser charge, get ready for judge to ream you

koho2731
09-07-2006, 04:46 PM
take it to court and hope the cop doesn't show and it'll all go away

Broken5hift
09-07-2006, 04:53 PM
your screwed. seriously im not trying to be a dick but your screwed. the cops always show up and the judge doesnt wanna hear your BS.

your lucky it wasnt in PA or you'd of lost your liscense for doubling the speed limit......... i think.

StreetEG
09-07-2006, 05:41 PM
ok so after a little research this is what I got.

In delaware at the speed I was going, if i just plead guilty I will be losing my privilege do drive in the state of de. (which ****s me because i work in dover)

Delaware and jersey have whats called an interstate compact, which allows the sharing of driver information between states. THis being said, I have a ticket in jersey I just got for a right on red thats 3 points. They will know about it. Whats even worse is that they will send the ticket back to jersey and worst case scenario, the jersey dmv can decide whether or not they want to revoke my jersey license.

Whats even better is the particular court I am going (which my trial is 3 months away) if its just a speeding ticket you dont talk to the prosecutor. You talk to the cop who pulled you over. YOu can imagine how happy he is to have to be tehre like that. GREAT

Soooooooooo... best case scenraio vs worst case scenario

Best case scenario---I go to court and the cop doesnt show... but we know thats going to happen so heres the real best case scenario.

I go to court, and the cop agrees to knock down the ticket to something lower--- which is most likely going to be somethign with either a higher fine, or just without the supsension of my license. Im about a couple hundred bucks, and my insurance is going to cop a large woody and proceed to stick it so far up my ass I can taste the pine tree it was made out of.

WOrst case scenario.

The cop shows up, calls me an idiot, and refuses to do anything about the ticket. He asks for the highest possible fine which in my case is 230+court costs, and asks if the court can add any additional fees. In thereafter he will support the revokation of my license in delaware, and make sure that the proper paperwork gets sent to jersey.

When jersey dmv finds out they will recomend that because of the high speed my license be suspend there too.

Now I am stuck in newark without a way to get to work. I get fired, and kicked out of my house then develop an addiction to heroin, where I proceed to get shot during a bad deal.

****

koho2731
09-07-2006, 08:16 PM
One the cops don't always show I have see many people get out of tickets because of it. They are usally on the cops days off at lest in DE. Two get a lawyer

sr20de
09-07-2006, 09:23 PM
Same thing happened to me a couple weeks ago. Except I was doing 60 in a 30. The cop told me the Dmv may call me in for an interview, which basically would discuss if I get to keep my license or not. Either way good luck, and I hope everything works out for you.

StreetEG
09-08-2006, 11:23 PM
Did you pay the ticket or fight it? Whered u get the ticket? did you get a lawyer?

sr20de
09-08-2006, 11:28 PM
I got pulled over on a back road off of kirkwood highway. I paid the ticket, just mailed it in. I didn't have to go to court or anything, but the dmv is supposed to call me in for an interview.

girlyspeed
09-08-2006, 11:54 PM
In PA I got a ticket for a 93 in a 55. I payed the ticket, got 5 points and my license suspended for 2 weeks. I had to meet with someone at the DMV too. I could have gotten a "working license" so I could drive to work but I chose not to.

Don't know if that helps?

StreetEG
09-09-2006, 12:05 AM
well the only reason is the fact that I have to get to work-- so i could actually use that---but the whole goal here is to not get ****ed as hard as the original 88 in a 35.

and heres a lil twist--- since my license is in jersey, and i got the ticket in de--- im worried about getting my privilages revoked in de AND losing my license in NJ---

TurboQuattroPwr
09-09-2006, 12:12 AM
S**t man, and to think we were just talking about tickets that night at the shell station. Was it a state or county cop?

It ruined Sunday for you---that sucks bad!!

StonedOnAir
09-09-2006, 02:02 PM
I have my fair share of point on my license, if you get a lawyer it is likely they can help you out. My last court visit was for 73 in a 55, which in nj is a 4 point offense and would've put me beyond the limit and had my license suspended for 6 months and god only knows what done to my insurance. Paid for a lawyer, he had me take a defensive driving class (since your license is still NJ it means knocking 2 points off your current amount), in court talked with the prosecutor (not sure how this will help since you say you will be dealing directly with the cop?) but along with me having completed the course and his help, my ticket was dropped to a careless driving or something along those lines (0 points and just extra fines for the favor). All in all it cost me about 1g but i still have my license and my insurance isnt affected by that last interaction. Best wishes tho dude, sorry to hear about the bad luck.

ToyotaTat
09-09-2006, 02:06 PM
its ashame i dont know you better, my uncle is a wilmington cop....in july i was pulled in jersey for 80 in a 55 plus obstruction of view for my air freshner, w/ my u ncle's help got it down to 59 in a 55...no points + cheap ticket = luck

ScoobyNubieToo!
09-09-2006, 02:08 PM
You may have an even larger problem on your hands when you get to court....like explaining to the judge why you have an NJ DL and Delaware insurance. You need an attorney ASAP! I rarely recomend a lawyer but you have a lot to lose here. Tell us more about your transition from Delaware to NJ.....you only have a short time to transition all of your documents including car insurance or else you potentially face a face fraud charge in NJ.

StreetEG
09-09-2006, 06:39 PM
The insurance is based on where you drive your car the most. SInce I live in delaware I dont think it is a problem at all. My permanant address is still in jersey aka where i get my bills and major documents sent because I dont trust sending them where I am now.

Anyway, unless your an insurance specialist and know the facts try not to scare the **** out me any further-- I am already in a jam and it sucks enough.

and Toyotatat! help me out man! haha im dyin here...Also, I was lookin into Probation before judgement because its my first offense in delaware after living here for going on my 5th year.... anyone have experience?

sr20de
09-09-2006, 07:28 PM
The insurance is based on where you drive your car the most. SInce I live in delaware I dont think it is a problem at all. My permanant address is still in jersey aka where i get my bills and major documents sent because I dont trust sending them where I am now.

Anyway, unless your an insurance specialist and know the facts try not to scare the **** out me any further-- I am already in a jam and it sucks enough.

and Toyotatat! help me out man! haha im dyin here...Also, I was lookin into Probation before judgement because its my first offense in delaware after living here for going on my 5th year.... anyone have experience?

I only have experience with that with a non-traffic offences. But basically if you go with pbj, they put you on a year of probation, and if you don't screw up for a year, everything is wiped from your premanent record. I've done that once and it worked out fine for me, just had to pay a big fine and court costs. I don't know if they will offer that to you though, since yours is a traffic offence.

slavetothemuzic
09-09-2006, 08:07 PM
Now I am stuck in newark without a way to get to work. I get fired, and kicked out of my house then develop an addiction to heroin, where I proceed to get shot during a bad deal.
You left out the part where you start hanging out on street corners, sucking d**k to support your newly acquired drug habbit. :bigeek:

j/k I really hope you're able to get the cop to reduce the charge. One thing you might want to consider is talking to an attorney. They (lawyers local to that area) may know the cop, and be able to bargain for you. They may also know about other things like drivers school to reduce penalties even further. It's certainly worth a couple phone calls.

Zapata2119
09-09-2006, 09:02 PM
also you could plead "no contest" in which they will go easy on you

ScoobyNubieToo!
09-09-2006, 09:42 PM
The insurance is based on where you drive your car the most. SInce I live in delaware I dont think it is a problem at all. My permanant address is still in jersey aka where i get my bills and major documents sent because I dont trust sending them where I am now.

Anyway, unless your an insurance specialist and know the facts try not to scare the **** out me any further-- I am already in a jam and it sucks enough.
That is not true! Unless you're a student living off campus or in the military, the car must be registered in the state that is your primary residence. In fact I can tell you this.....I had bought a 300ZX Turbo from Delaware when I lived in Collingswood NJ. The Collingswood PD knocked on my door and let me know that in NJ I had 30 days to register and insure the car in NJ. I still think you should get a lawyer. Anytime your faced with potential lose of license you should retain a lawyer....it's good advice. Take it or leave it.

Cypher
09-09-2006, 10:26 PM
DLC (drivers license compact) reads that only serious offenses are transferred between states and give you points. those offenses include killing someone with your car, DUI, leaving the scene of an accident and one other thing i always forget. that being said if you got it not in a state that you have your license in you could just pay the ticket and it might show up on your record but it'll just show up as speeding.

i know that because i got pulled over at 95 in a 65 on the PA turnpike and i have an MD license. the offence shows up on my md record but only says "Speeding - PA" nothing more.

StreetEG
09-09-2006, 10:37 PM
de is not my primary residence. I just got off the phone with the insurance company...so i am clear there.

attorneys are in the near future

Cypher
09-09-2006, 10:53 PM
i'd say it won't be as bad as you might think.

ToyotaTat
09-09-2006, 11:36 PM
i wish i could help you on the charges, i just dropped his card in front of the prosecuter in court and that was it. he's in wilmington, were you near there at all? and i'd drop his name to you but i dont think thats a good idea...at the same time it was my first offense

StreetEG
09-09-2006, 11:42 PM
this is my first offense too---I am in newark and work in loss prevention--pretty closely with the dover PD down in dover, but my peers work with the DSP pretty tightly--- I mean if the court date isnt till november I am sure I can make my own connections by then, but just having that immediate in cant be beat--- it was a long shot but i figured I would try...Hopefully PBJ will work out for me

StreetEG
09-09-2006, 11:43 PM
i'd say it won't be as bad as you might think.


thanks man

Cypher
09-09-2006, 11:45 PM
hmmm dover eh? i was just there a couple hours ago. might have to try and catch up with a bunch of you people. sorry for the offtopicness lol

usually if you're real honest and just tell the judge straight up and tis your first offense you get off pretty good so don't sweat it too much. i've learned theres no real point in getting worked up and stressing. just gotta go with the flow, as cliche as that is.

ToyotaTat
09-09-2006, 11:49 PM
how old are you? if you under 21...bring a parent, and make sure the judge knows that the money for the ticket is coming out of your pocket, that always helps

peteyturbo
09-09-2006, 11:50 PM
I STAY going to court..I'll give you some pointers..
Plead not guilty, you have nothing to lose, and 9 out of 10 times you will get a plea no matter what the scenerio. It does not matter if the officer does not show until you get to court of common pleas.HE can have another officer serve as P.A. on his behalf.
What is the ticket for, reckless,careless, speeding?? Just because it has a speed written does not mean it is a speeding ticket..My advice would be find out exactly how many points you have, then take any plea that will keep you from being suspended. If you lose in court the first time, appeal it for 30 bux and try again, and again. Eventually you will get some type of plea bargain..

StreetEG
09-11-2006, 07:02 PM
Well i can tell you this much-- court will be happening. Made some calls to some lawyers today to see whats happening in the area. Like i said I have plenty of time because the date isnt until the 27th.

ANyway thanks for all the responses--- i will be keepin this updated as the days go by.

-E

ScoobyNubieToo!
09-11-2006, 08:00 PM
Well i can tell you this much-- court will be happening. Made some calls to some lawyers today to see whats happening in the area. Like i said I have plenty of time because the date isnt until the 27th.

ANyway thanks for all the responses--- i will be keepin this updated as the days go by.

-E
Good deal.....you'll be glad you did. Best thing is to try and find a lawyer who commonly defends tickets in that court house.....if he's already chummy with the Prosecuter or the judge you'll get a better deal.

StreetEG
09-13-2006, 07:22 PM
well i contacted a lawyer that came recommended so we will see what happens. Its 250 an hour so hopefully with the 6-800 ill probably spend on this whole case I will be able to keep my license

ToyotaTat
09-13-2006, 07:25 PM
:thumbup: good luck :thumbup:

smg267
11-08-2006, 06:05 PM
I got pulled over on 95 coming home from Newark at upwards of 90. To quote the police officer. I saw him coming up in my rearview a good 1000 feet before he even had his lights on. I was like I'm ****ed put on my 4 ways and pulled myself over all the way to a safe spot. HE gave me the you know how fast speech. I ended every sentence in yes sir, no sir, no excuse sir. He then looked at my backseat and asked what was in the boxs. I said headers sir, He said so you can go faster???:furious: He came back and gave me a ticket for 1311 failure to obey a posted sign. 115 ticket no points. And the slow the f down speech. :prayer: Doesn't hurt to keep the rosary in the car.....

It prob didn't help your cause if your in a caged gutted civic. There is only one thing to do with that car and its race. What does it run if you don't mind me asking? Best of luck maybe you can cut a deal.

olsookie
11-13-2006, 06:56 PM
then develop an addiction to heroin, where I proceed to get shot during a bad deal.

****

don't catch the hiv or your even more f'd! lol

Renegade_
11-13-2006, 06:58 PM
so what ended up happening?

JDM87
11-13-2006, 08:05 PM
i can give you some advice... you cant do 1 of 2 things. Find your cell phone billa nd if you have a call within an hour of the written time on the ticket you can bring it in and get the ticket knocked down to a cell phone infraction. Worse comes to worse take what they call unsafe driving. Its a bigger fine but no points. Its something like 250 plus 150 plus court fees. Best bet is the cell phone though since its cheaper. Dont worry i have done worse and gotten out of it... good luck and pm me if you have any questions. You dont need a lawyer to do this so youll save money. He'll end up doing what i told oyu anyway and charging you for it.

markley02
11-13-2006, 08:40 PM
I am very experienced in this situation. This is what you have to do. Plead not guilty to the ticket. A few days before you go to court go and get your DE license. If they dont ask if you moved or got a DE license, dont tell them! What will happen is the court will send the info to NJ DMV. Which is 2 points, not 3 which was stated earlier. Even if your NJ license gets suspended, which it shouldn't, you will still have your DE. Also usually NDR (national drivers record) will not catch anything and you will have no points on your DE license at all.

But, most important is GET A LAWYER!!!! The judge will take you much more seriously

iso
11-13-2006, 09:25 PM
i didn't feel like reading everything else but here's my expericenxe.

i got pulled over doing 75 in a 25. cop was infuriated, but was nice enough not to handcuff me on the spot. you too are lucky you did not get arrested to begin with.

anyway, i got a lawyer (400 bucks) and took a defensive driving course and had the speed dropped from 75 in a 25 to 35 in a 25 (2 point ticket) plus a two week suspension. shoulda been a 5 pt ticket and 6 month loss of license or something like that. my advice, get a lawyer and take the defensive driving course thing.

StreetEG
12-07-2006, 01:15 PM
Update:

No lawyer just went to court and talked to the cop.

Results: dropped fro 88 in a 35 to 45 in a 35.
30 dollar fine
40 dollar court costs

Some people say I was lucky. I call it... well, luck i guess

JSeoul
12-07-2006, 01:47 PM
um... just get a radar detector, like my cobra xrs9700! :) Havn't got a speeding ticket in 2 years now.

Silver04STi
12-07-2006, 06:07 PM
Update:

No lawyer just went to court and talked to the cop.

Results: dropped fro 88 in a 35 to 45 in a 35.
30 dollar fine
40 dollar court costs

Some people say I was lucky. I call it... well, luck i guess

Wow...the cop and prosecutor must have both been in a generous mood.

vwcorradokid
12-12-2006, 01:26 PM
Update:

No lawyer just went to court and talked to the cop.

Results: dropped fro 88 in a 35 to 45 in a 35.
30 dollar fine
40 dollar court costs

Some people say I was lucky. I call it... well, luck i guess

was it a DE state trooper that pulled you over and gave you the ticket? if so, do u know what his name was? My HS football coach is now a trooper down there.

StreetEG
12-12-2006, 02:10 PM
no it was a local cop

vwcorradokid
12-12-2006, 04:07 PM
no it was a local cop

I don't know if locals are equipped with radar in Delaware or not. In PA...the only cops with radar are the staties...I think the same stands for dirty jerz.