Alittle advice on air intake please...

[naDintheHat]

I am looking at getting one for my 94 Golf Mk3. I am a complete noob when it comes to anything related to this. So i was looking for some advice on a brand of one, or if i should start someplace else other than the intake. All comments welcome.

-Dan
:sleep: ....Dreams of a turbo....

[Ender81]

Neuspeed is nice, Aem and Injen would work also.

[mk4gtivr6]

go wit eurosport

[Ender81]

I suppose a good question would be are you going cold air or short ram?

[naDintheHat]

I suppose a good question would be are you going cold air or short ram?
Well im still very new to this, what are the major differences? i was looking at both cold air and short ram.

-Dan

[xEJ20x]

Some help with information about your motor.
http://www.vwfixx.com/tuningguide/



Shops that cater to VW/Audi.

http://www.bahnbrenner.com/
http://www.tmtuning.com/

[naDintheHat]

Some help with information about your motor.
http://www.vwfixx.com/tuningguide/



Shops that cater to VW/Audi.

http://www.bahnbrenner.com/
http://www.tmtuning.com/

Thanks a ton, ill have to check it out once i get back from class.:thumbup:

off to class...to dream about a turbo haha

-Dan

[Renegade_]

well, you could always take the stock turbo off of the 1.8Ts and run like 5-6 PSI if you want to without anything blowing up on you. Problem is will the manifold and the exhaust mate up and what kind of stand-alone will allow you to run that? Where will you mount the turbo? Is the engine configuration the same? (I don't know much about VWs) Unless the engines are the same you can't use the stock ECU from the 1.8Ts and would have to buy a stand-alone

And also, do the heads follow the same timing, etc etc - there are a lot of things to consider if you want a turbo. It's possible, there are just a lot of things to consider. go on www.vwvortex.com or sites which are similar and ask them there how the engine inter-coorespond.

[SmokeyBandit]

If it's almost due for a tune-up... do it. It makes a better difference than an intake.

I guess you're in college, Bloomsburg U? If you need a cheap VW mechanic....not extremely too far away is www.metalmanparts.com -- Dennis' labor rate is only $25/hour

[naDintheHat]

If it's almost due for a tune-up... do it. It makes a better difference than an intake.

I guess you're in college, Bloomsburg U? If you need a cheap VW mechanic....not extremely too far away is www.metalmanparts.com -- Dennis' labor rate is only $25/hour


Now your speakin my language lol. Yeah im at bloomu. I know the car needs a tune up, it needs some other things too. Im looking to add alittle power, altho i have read that if i get a K&N filter replacement it will give me better results than a intake, and 40 bucks is better than none. Ill have to look him up and see if i can get my car over there some weekend. Thanks alot.

-Dan

This is great, im gonna let my dad know about this guy because he seems to deal alot with TDI's and his is hurtin.

[SmokeyBandit]

Dennis (Marquette) did my Timing belt & replaced my bearings/spindle on my TDI. (I have the 1.8T brakes now)

He works from home & is a 2nd generation VW mechanic (his dad recently retired from Sunbury VW)--- and has a TDI bug FS (iirc, it's Upsolute chip)

[Ender81]

It's an intake, take a look at the instruction manual before you pay someone. I threw one in my Jetta and it took all of 35 minutes.

[naDintheHat]

It's an intake, take a look at the instruction manual before you pay someone. I threw one in my Jetta and it took all of 35 minutes.
If i got an intake i would do it myself, the mech that he was talkin about is one that is local to me, for tune ups and what not, and is cheap(poor ass college student here)

-dan (im amazed i can type)_

[subwrxkid]

go wit eurosport
I am sidin with the vw guru because this kid only owns and drives vw's! lol

[naDintheHat]

I am sidin with the vw guru because this kid only owns and drives vw's! lol
I was considering that, i have heard only good things. But after doing the research im considering not getting an intake and getting just the air filter replacement, then maybe an ecu....

-dan
ps just to let everyone know it is raining in bloomsburg, and it is cold and chilicheese dogs are amazing. lol

[Ender81]

Cold air was fun on my turbo but you always had to worry about wether the puddle in the road was going to kill your car lol. Short Ram is great if you want that look but if you aren't doing much to the car a filter would be more then adequate.

[naDintheHat]

Cold air was fun on my turbo but you always had to worry about wether the puddle in the road was going to kill your car lol. Short Ram is great if you want that look but if you aren't doing much to the car a filter would be more then adequate.
I'd like to do some things to the car. i just have a very limited budget and knowledge, and lets face it my motor has 130+K miles on it so im not sure much it would be able to take.

-Dan

[LilRedVDub]

Just be careful putting on a cold air. I have a mk4 2005 1/2 GLI. My boyfriend has a 93 passat vr6 and we both work at a vw dealership. I would go with a short ram. Dubs don't like cold air. If your dead set on getting one, get a neuspeed, don't get a aem japanese crap. Dubs don't like cold air for one reason, if your car is lowered, it is raining, where does the cold air sit? Low to the ground. Where does the water go? In the motor. Alll I saying is short ram is the way to go and be careful :wink:

[Renegade_]

Or he could stay away from the puddle suckers and go for like a "Hybrid" intake much like the cobb cold air intake for N/A subies. It goes into the fender but thats it, it doesn't drop down into the fender, just connects to the hole. Are there any like that for VWs?

[Ender81]

I had an AEM, never had a problem, never could find out what made one better then the other on a vw. On a Subaru the wrong intake will screw with your A/F but on a veedub I never heard of anything like that. I think it's all personal preference unless you have an actual personal excperience with a certain brand. As far as the hydrolock issue that's a problem with almost every car and cold air intakes (although if you have an n/a car you can get the little piece from AEM that prevents water from making it into the engine). I used to work at a shop that specialized in VW's so I'm very familiar with the three brands I recomended, and he has the right idea with just going with a high flow filter for what he wants.

[LilRedVDub]

All I'm saying is to be careful on what you put on. I wouldn't do a aem. I would go with neuspeed if you have your hart set on a cold air. I would do a short ram if anything tho. It's just my opnion. I have owned 15 dubs in my like and still have a g60 raddo and my boyfriend has had 49 of them so I do know a good amount about dubs. 95% of our friends have dubs aswell. So just be careful and resherch it first :wink:

[onecleanGTI]

if ur lookin for a good vdub tuner go to eiptuning i found alota good parts for my car on there

[Ender81]

All I'm saying is to be careful on what you put on. I wouldn't do a aem.

I am going to ask again for a specific reason. Just saying don't buy this because I've owned a lot of VW's isn't really a reason. I've worked with AEM and Neuspeed quite a bit and I am just curious why you don't like AEM. For instance if I say don't buy FK lights it's because they are notorious for leaking and are made in Taiwan but claim to be German. It's not that it matters, he is going with a filter, but for myself I am curious.

[naDintheHat]

Honestly since im new to all of this, i value everyone's opinion on which parts companies to go with, but in the end the only thing im worried about is my "bang for my buck". I'd let to get the best possible parts at a price that a poor college kid can afford. This is partly why i am going to go with the replacement filter instead of the intake. I have heard that the intake makes the car sound nicer but doesnt really give any performance upgrade to my car. And the 45 bucks for so that ill pay for the filter is something that i hope will gain me a slight power increase.

-Dan

I still want a turbo tho :-P

[SmokeyBandit]

if ur lookin for a good vdub tuner go to eiptuning i found alota good parts for my car on there

EIP are a pretty shady bunch of guys. Heck they lie about their chip tuning capability (or lack thereof). There are plenty of hate threads about them on the 'tex

Back to the OP....just keep the car in tune. A chip won't gain you much, other than a hole in the wallet and a bigger one keeping the tank filled with premium fuel. If you want a suspension that handles-- Shine Real Street Suspension.

[sidewayzdazes13]

what are ur future plans???fi??n/a??? if ur just getting it for now and going fi later go on ebay get a cheap one they all work the same and u can usually find one for under 50 bucks with shipping on ebay...even if ur going n/a save some money it will net the same small hp gains why not pay alot less and get the same??

[naDintheHat]

Considering i just pissed away a bunch of money on books and rent. The only thing i will be doin for a while is the air filter unless i somehow find a get rich quick scheme. Altho i am really liking the gas stations around me, 10 cent price drop in the span of 24 hrs(2.89 -> 2.79 for 93). That and one of my fogs is dead so i want to replace that.

-naD

[SmokeyBandit]

Nice (Pembroke?) Corgi in the sig.

YOu drive a 2.slow. Putting premium does more harm than good. You are promoting higher deposit formation that bumps up your compression ratio & you cannot go back less you decarbonize your engine.

[naDintheHat]

Nice (Pembroke?) Corgi in the sig.

YOu drive a 2.slow. Putting premium does more harm than good. You are promoting higher deposit formation that bumps up your compression ratio & you cannot go back less you decarbonize your engine.

Yes it is Pembroke, it was my dog :cry: . I listened to peer pressure and went with the 92 in my tank, and with the way gas is dropping ill probably be putting in 87 alot more.

-Dan

[vwcorradokid]

I would go with the Eurosport intake if I were you. Eurosport is well-known throughout the Euro tuner community. If you plan on turbocharging the car, I'd suggest the WinTEC3 EMS. It's a bit on the pricey side, but pretty decent at what it does. If you need more information on it, check it out at http://www.directignition.com/products/wintec3d.html

[LilRedVDub]

I am going to ask again for a specific reason. Just saying don't buy this because I've owned a lot of VW's isn't really a reason. I've worked with AEM and Neuspeed quite a bit and I am just curious why you don't like AEM. For instance if I say don't buy FK lights it's because they are notorious for leaking and are made in Taiwan but claim to be German. It's not that it matters, he is going with a filter, but for myself I am curious.

I'm jsut saying from experience. I work at a vw dealership and my fiance' is a tech here and I see it day in and day out. I'm not trying to start an argument or nothing, I'm also not sayiny not to buy one. All I said is do your homework first. Relax!

[Loserkidwac]

I didn't read all the posts but this is my feeling on this topic...

An intake is... an intake they are all just an alum. tube with a filter, the main difference in quality is going to be the filter on the end... I always suggest for someone on a budget to get the cheapest one, ebay intake, trash the filter or sell it on ebay and then getting a K&N filter for the end...

Edit: Oh also a good tune up is money better spent than an intake or other little performance upgrades

[andru1313]

Well I have a Dub and an INtake. You should really ask yourself why an intake. What are you looking to gain. Intakes are nice. You get a deeper growl and the engine feels less restrictive. But an intake alone is not going to do a ton on performance. You will notice a small improvement.

the intake likes to have a companion like a Chip. Chip+Intake is a great combo.

Anyway. Next question should be short Ram or not. I went with EIP. I am very happy but yes I get nervous when it rains. I have the bypass valve by AEM but they break. Here is pic kinda lousy but you get the point..
http://images1.snapfish.com/347%3C%3A4936%7Ffp342%3Enu%3D3238%3E7%3B6%3E5%3B8% 3EWSNRCG%3D3233638287%3C%3A6nu0mrj
http://images1.snapfish.com/347%3C%3A4936%7Ffp343%3Enu%3D3238%3E7%3B6%3E5%3B8% 3EWSNRCG%3D3233638286%3C86nu0mrj

It really depends on you. also if money is an issue just go with a cheaper one. they all do the same thing.

[Loserkidwac]

If you get a chip please get it tuned don't just buy an e-bay chip, there is no wonder chip that will make your car fast...they need to be tuned specificlly for your vehicle, most ebay chips just advance ignition timing and remove rev limiters which are not good things and will lead to engine death

[LilRedVDub]

I had my car flashed by awe and love it! I have a short ram but it's not on the car yet. There is also other little s**t done to the car but nothing major yet. Only 20k miles til my warranty is up and then look the f@*k out!

[andru1313]

If you get a chip please get it tuned don't just buy an e-bay chip, there is no wonder chip that will make your car fast...they need to be tuned specificlly for your vehicle, most ebay chips just advance ignition timing and remove rev limiters which are not good things and will lead to engine death

sorry should have used the correct terms. Get your car flashed. AWE did mine went the the GIAC flash.

[naDintheHat]

Damn you guys sure know how to bring a thread back from the dead. As of right now i havent gone with anything yet, school is alittle expensive for me right now so im more than likely holding off on anything until after xmas or even as late as summer. The comment on the tune up tho, is something i have been considering and would like to do if the money is there. Since it is a older car with higher miles, im very cautious on what i will do to it. How much do you guys think a tune-up would run me?

[LilRedVDub]

Damn you guys sure know how to bring a thread back from the dead. As of right now i havent gone with anything yet, school is alittle expensive for me right now so im more than likely holding off on anything until after xmas or even as late as summer. The comment on the tune up tho, is something i have been considering and would like to do if the money is there. Since it is a older car with higher miles, im very cautious on what i will do to it. How much do you guys think a tune-up would run me?

I work at a vw dealership. It's alot here. How many miles are on your dub?

[Loserkidwac]

For Decent tune up:
Spark Plugs and Wires
New Distributr cap and Rotor(I think your car may be coil pack and not dizzy)
New Air Filter
Oil change and filter
New PCV
Check change coolant maybe thermostat
Check Tires and tire pressure
Check brakes, rotors, and fluid
Check all Fluids
Check Belts for Cracks or tears and adjust tension as needed
Test battery make sure its 12-13v

Thats a good list for a tune up and maintence, I may have missed a few but those are all things i like to check often....

[naDintheHat]

I work at a vw dealership. It's alot here. How many miles are on your dub?

~137K miles, it still pulls nice and strong and shifts smoothly, so i cant really complain.

[andru1313]

at least 400+

[FASTERTHANU]

ITG air intake system. here's the site. http://www.eurosportacc.com/coolflo.htm