Time to start modding the MR

[markley02]

Well, the MR has 1000 miles on it and I guess it is time to start modding. What is the sudgested mods that I do to it. I want to get it around 350-400hp.

[peteyturbo]

What year MR?
If it is an 05:
Turboback
boost control
Fuel pump
Boost gauge
Cams
Reflash
06:
Reflash
turboback
Boost control
boost gaugeWell, the MR has 1000 miles on it and I guess it is time to start modding. What is the sudgested mods that I do to it. I want to get it around 350-400hp.

[markley02]

It is an 06. The car has the stock boost gauge. Is it ok or is it useless like the 3000GT's boost guage.

What psi can you safely turn the car up to?

[silver05bullet]

since its an 06 with a turbo back and a reflash safe to do about 24psi

[subwrxkid]

Wait, what? Since when did you get an 06 MR? Sick!

Here is what would get you over 350whp.
Turboback exhaust
02 housing
i/c pipes
intake (not really needed)
Ecuteck Flash or dyno flash (TT, Sean @ ivey, Pruven, Dynoflash, AMS etc)

add 1 cam and your a 400whp stock turbo evo 9 bling!

[20th1519]

Nothing to add here except congrats on the car. Can i go for a ride?

[Renegade_]

TBE, EM, MBC, and a tune is what I start with.

[peteyturbo]

The 06 can go to 24 psi on 93 tuned. The factory gauge is better then the 300GT as it is mechanical, but still does not read correctly and only goes to 1.5 bar. Stay with a mechanical gauge, DEFI gauges have been tested to read way off even though they look nice.
Get your tuning by Ivey or dynoflash, they are the best in the area, dyno tune is always better then mail-in tune.
06's have been very picky when it comes to boost controllers (fluctuating) but I have heard good things about the Forge MBC.
UR makes test pipes that eliminate the CEL and are compatible with most exhaust/downpipes that use stock flange locations. Greddy titanium is an awesome exhaust.
If you want an 11 second car, all you will need is exhaust and tune, mabye a boost controller.

[wrx_snobordr]

Does the same hold true for the 06 gsr? I want it to still be reliable and preferably not have any warranty issues or cel's. I know with my old wrx the second i put the turbo back on even with the mechanical fix i threw a CEL. Is there the same probs with the evo? I have read that some exhausts will maintain the stock cat but have a 3" downpipe and catback, how much power does this steal? Also, what is the average cost of a tune?

[peteyturbo]

Same for GSR.. Warranty depends on where you go, they do NOT like mods on theese cars..For the CEL I reccomend using the UR testpipe which has an extension for the 2nd 02 sensor, and it does NOT throw a CEL. I have had two so far, and I am selling a 2.5 inch test pipe for 40. If you just use a regular test pipe you will throw a CEL. If you use a 3 inch exhaust WITH the stock cat, you will gain less then 1/2 as much as you would with 3 inch turboback catless. Average cost of tune is 200 for mail in Techtom reflash, usually 300 or so for a custom dyno tuned techtom, and around 600 for an ECutek flash..Of course you can also buy the hardware for 100 bux and do it yourself or use it with dynoflashes e-mail tune to upload into your ECU for 50 or 100 bux can't remember..Does the same hold true for the 06 gsr? I want it to still be reliable and preferably not have any warranty issues or cel's. I know with my old wrx the second i put the turbo back on even with the mechanical fix i threw a CEL. Is there the same probs with the evo? I have read that some exhausts will maintain the stock cat but have a 3" downpipe and catback, how much power does this steal? Also, what is the average cost of a tune?

[wrx_snobordr]

Sweet, how compatible are diff aftermarket brands? If i were to get the TXS turbo back system that uses the stock cat pipe then purchases the UR test pipe would it all mate up or would there be serious fitment issues? I ask because when i bought my downpipe for my WRX it wouldnt mate corretly with alot of the cat backs on the market o it causes a good amount of headaches.

Also, if i get a ECutek reflash is the 600 (i know its a guestimate) for just the tune plus i have to buy a program to piggy back the stock ecu or dos it just completly rework the base map with no piggy backing.

[peteyturbo]

TXS is compativle with the UR test pipe. Only a few companys do NOT use the stock flange locations for the cat.
As far as the tune, you do not need a piggyback, but when you change your setup, you would benifit from having a re-tune.
I would just get your exhaust and whatever other mods you want for the time being, and get a custom non-ecutek Dynoflash. You will save some money and the difference between the two is almost negligible any more. With intake , exhaust , and boost control, you will have an 11 second car on pump gas with the custom tune no problem, and can be easily put back to stock if you really needed to.
Another option is the mail in flash, that is what I use and have had great results with it. I would go talk to Al (dynoflash) at one of the races he runs in, and ask him for a flash. It will only cost you like 100 bux and it takes 15 min. He has flashed 1000's of cars and has a huge database of flash parameters for many different setups. You car will be a whole new animal with a reflash!!Sweet, how compatible are diff aftermarket brands? If i were to get the TXS turbo back system that uses the stock cat pipe then purchases the UR test pipe would it all mate up or would there be serious fitment issues? I ask because when i bought my downpipe for my WRX it wouldnt mate corretly with alot of the cat backs on the market o it causes a good amount of headaches.

Also, if i get a ECutek reflash is the 600 (i know its a guestimate) for just the tune plus i have to buy a program to piggy back the stock ecu or dos it just completly rework the base map with no piggy backing.

[wrx_snobordr]

Thanks! What is your fuel milage like?

[peteyturbo]

Excellent, better then stock if I can keep from having such a heavy foot.I've gotten over 300 miles on a tank already..Thanks! What is your fuel milage like?

[silver05bullet]

like petey said turbo back, flash, intake and MBC (Hallman PRO or Forge) are the best, the evo 9's really benefit from that

[wrx_snobordr]

Since i cant go without my car for 2 days i cant send out my ecu. Do you guys recommend any local shops to do the tuning? Ive heard good things about turbotrix. Why the mbc, does the ecu not control the boost?

[peteyturbo]

You can control boost much better with a MBC, but you CAN get a little more boost for alittle longer with ECU tuning.
Why not just go to the Mitsu and dodge day this weekend and pick up a flash from Al for like 100 bux, he is always happy to do it at the track for a discount..You can get flashed for a turbo back before the exhaust is on the car no prob, thats exactly what I did and it works great, partial throttle response is much better.
Don't forget you can also setup your launch control..Mabye make a few passes down the track, should be good for 12's stock with a flash..
As far as turbotrix, I have heard they lost the guy that used to do them that was good. As far as a local shop, I would not trust my EVO with someone who has only done a few, I say dynoflash is the way to go. If you can't make it to the track when he is there, take a day off of work and drive up to Ct. and get a tune, its only like 30 min or so farther then TT.. IT's about a 2.5 hrs from philly.
BTW he can sell you MBC or whatever at excellent prices while you are there, he will pretty much beat anyone online for the stuff he sells, also Pruven sells alot of stuff too, he uses their dyno and works out of their shop..

http://www.dynoflash.com/fullcust.htm
http://www.dynoflash.com/indttm.htm
Since i cant go without my car for 2 days i cant send out my ecu. Do you guys recommend any local shops to do the tuning? Ive heard good things about turbotrix. Why the mbc, does the ecu not control the boost?

[Piro]

Before you do anything to your car take a look at some of the evo's on the meets and ask how they are doing with their mods, and how the look. you will see it will varies greatly with budget and parts aviable to you at the time to mod your car. be carefull and set a goal of what you want before you start spending money, try to get a complete kit, saves you money on labor, some kits are better than others, so do your home work. if you want a good tuner check Sean Ivey, he is the man when it comes to tuning.

[peteyturbo]

Sean Ivey only tunes with ECUtek and AEM for the most part, no Techtom..You will pay over 600 dollars for a tune.Before you do anything to your car take a look at some of the evo's on the meets and ask how they are doing with their mods, and how the look. you will see it will varies greatly with budget and parts aviable to you at the time to mod your car. be carefull and set a goal of what you want before you start spending money, try to get a complete kit, saves you money on labor, some kits are better than others, so do your home work. if you want a good tuner check Sean Ivey, he is the man when it comes to tuning.

[markley02]

can I get the flash before the exhaust and MBC or do I have to get the MBC first????

[subwrxkid]

can I get the flash before the exhaust and MBC or do I have to get the MBC first????
You have to have all the parts you plan on running first and they must be already installed before the tune.

[markley02]

Nothing to add here except congrats on the car. Can i go for a ride?

anytime you want. I am not living around the corner anymore though

[Intercooled T]

i see you're using that week of free money wisely lol :)

[9 Ball]

Well, the MR has 1000 miles on it and I guess it is time to start modding. What is the sudgested mods that I do to it. I want to get it around 350-400hp.

Everyone has pretty much said what you need. Like “Piro” said, another good idea is to check out folks at the meets and see what their set-ups look like and how they run. FYI, I’ve got 60,000 miles:rolleyes: and absolutely no problems what so ever… and I’m sure you’ve seen my mod list. The idle is very smooth for a car running cams (quieter than the stock cams actually.) It will occasionally throw a CEL in cold weather (I’ve got the mechanical fix) however, I simply disconnect the negative battery terminal and it clears out. Other than that, the car has run like a dream.

Happy modding.:thumbup:

[peteyturbo]

You can get it before the Exhaust but not MBC. The mbc changes the boost curve, and gets rid of the high rpm boost taper. Dont forget you can also get the boost controlling flash for the same price, but will not hold boost as long or as high as the MBC. This is what I am currently using and I think it works great, but I would like to see if a MBC and custom tune will get me into the 11's.can I get the flash before the exhaust and MBC or do I have to get the MBC first????

[Spoolin92vr4]

It is an 06. The car has the stock boost gauge. Is it ok or is it useless like the 3000GT's boost guage.

What psi can you safely turn the car up to?


:iagree: why u gotta bust on our boost gauges :cry: just beacuse it doesn't read right for **** doesn't mean there bad haha

[markley02]

:iagree: why u gotta bust on our boost gauges :cry: just beacuse it doesn't read right for **** doesn't mean there bad haha


lol. Because I have had to deal with it before! I think that gives me the right. Also getting an aftermarket gauge to fit in the stock spot is like teaching a retard calculus.

[peteyturbo]

I got an aftermarket mechanical gauge. My stock boost gauge was not reading exactly what it should have been, but it is a mechanical gauge, much better then the 3kgt/DSM old school gauges that just used airflow from the MAS to give a reading.lol. Because I have had to deal with it before! I think that gives me the right. Also getting an aftermarket gauge to fit in the stock spot is like teaching a retard calculus.

[Piro]

Like I said. Look at others first then make an informed and intelligent list of mods that you'll like to have. Set a goal and work your way there. If you can get rides with some others, better, you will be able to compare them. Mi point is that there are many ways to get a fast evo. Some are ugly, some are noisy, some are realy stupid. But there are elegant and clean ways to get you there. For example I had to replace the BOV, at that time the only option aviable was an HKS ssqv, NOISY! I hate it!, but it works fine! Looks very nice, and it fitted very well. I'm running the car at a steady 1.6-1.8(21-24psi) bars with the Turbo XS MBC and no leaks! the 16g that is on now is holding (for now) --get a turbo timer --or idle the car for aprox. 30 secs before shutting it off. If you like to get big awhps, you will need a bigget turbo and all necesary support mods, Big turbos are more laggy and the start to work at higher Rpms(dahh), more psi's needs more fuel, injectors, cams and a fuel pump, and if you like, a fuel rail to make it look nice. more psi means more heat, now you need an bigger IC and hard tubes, the BOV will start giving up by 21-24 psi, get a good one. to get all this to harmonize with each other you will need to tune your car very well. The big controversy is on the exhaust manifold. There are soooooo many diferent ones, cast, tubular, cast ss, equal lenght, variable ratio, etc, some are nice, some are uuuugly, some will split open. DO YOUR HOME WORK!!!!! see my point!!!

BTW the 20g burned out! my fault, a piece of rubber from the intake got in. puff!! gone, out of balance, dead turbo, stock(16g) in now. It makes a very funny noise at 1.5+ bars, it occilates. I think that this one is going the way of the DODDO too.

[peteyturbo]

But if he is only looking for 350whp or so, he will not need all the mods..Just exhaust boost control and a tune basicly. Just pick which ones appeal to you..Do you want jdm race style or stock looking? there are many choices..

[wrx_snobordr]

MBC, Turbo back and flash = 350 whp? I know the tranny can hold that with ease, but how about the clutch? Ive heard that they made the clutch soft to lessen the strain on the tranny. Also, what do you guys think of the engine damening piston instead of a new front engine mount. I dont really care about the increased NVH but dont feel like getting into ripping my car apart if i can simply ad a piece that will work just as well with half the install hassle.

[peteyturbo]

Clutch will be fine unless you toast it trying to launch. If you know how to launch the car well it will last a long time..I wouldn't worry about the engine damper or bushings, but the bushing will do a much better job and not break at the bracket like some of those dampers have. And yes turbo back, reflash, and MBC will have you in the 350 range, you can expect gains of 70hp or so..MBC, Turbo back and flash = 350 whp? I know the tranny can hold that with ease, but how about the clutch? Ive heard that they made the clutch soft to lessen the strain on the tranny. Also, what do you guys think of the engine damening piston instead of a new front engine mount. I dont really care about the increased NVH but dont feel like getting into ripping my car apart if i can simply ad a piece that will work just as well with half the install hassle.

[wrx_snobordr]

thanks... Yeah, i was wondering about them snapping if to much pressure was applied. So 350 whp and better gas milage, its a win win situation... now i just have to save up some money!

[peteyturbo]

BTW I thought you had a regular EVO9, did you trade it for an MR?