Thinking of buying an Evo

[markley02]

Any sudgestions of which trim level to get? Can anyone honestly say the MR is worth the money? What is the differences in the trim levels?

[ToTheIX's]

id say no, but other people would say yes i suppose......basically with the mr you get hid/fog lights, diff wheels, a little diff suspension setup and some aero stuff that doesnt com on the gsr....as far as thr rs, i wouldnt go there...no wing no floor mats, no trunk liner, no radio, no power window/locks...yea its a little lighter but not that much faster and only in a straight line anyway...bsides the fact that its only like 2000 cheaper anyway, no matter what you decide to get though id go about it quickly bc thyre getting hard to come by

[markley02]

Is the suspension in the MR that much better than the IX?

[ToTheIX's]

i guess if your really gonna auto x it and what not it may be, but to just ride around and do some spirited driving on som good roads, id say put the cash elsewhere

[Evolved]

..basically with the mr you get hid/fog lights
You can get those on a "gsr' with the SSL package.


If you're going to change the wheels and suspension than the MR probably isn't worth it unless you really want the 6 spd.

[ToTheIX's]

You can get those on a "gsr' with the SSL package.


If you're going to change the wheels and suspension than the MR probably isn't worth it unless you really want the 6 spd.
yea but even the ssl package is 3200 more, my dad just got one with it, i think the leather seats suck....and theres no way in hell id pay 3200 more for the sunroof and headlights

[reeksti]

sti FTW, screw evos lol

[markley02]

What about when it comes to modding an Evo? Where is the best place to buy parts? How much power can it make on a stock turbo? How much would it cost to get it around 400 AWHP? what about 500 AWHP?

[turbo4g63]

for evo's its really EXTREMELY easy to hit 350 whp...TBE, Intake, intercooler piping and cams and your there....as far as stock turbo....i would say its maybe good for about 375whp

[wrx_snobordr]

I just purchased a IX and couldnt be happier. IMHO the MR just wasnt worth the extra money. From my research before buying the car the evo is just as easy to mod than the wrx, if not easier, it doesnt have the hard to work on boxer engine. It is also more responsive to bolt on mods, from what i understand a simple turbo back and tune will give you around 350 whp. I say EVO FTW!!

[ToTheIX's]

if your looking to get a ix, you can hit the area of 340 whp with just exhaust and a flash....so for 400 whp id say youd prob get there around 2000.00, maybe less depending on the flash and who deos the tuning.Also on the ix ive heard you can make 400+ on the factory turbo no prob....its decently underrated from from the factory, they say it has 286 hp, but mine dynoed at 264 with no mods

[markley02]

One last question, any good evo forums out there?

[Mr. SUAVE]

www.evolutionm.net

[wrx_snobordr]

if your looking to get a ix, you can hit the area of 340 whp with just exhaust and a flash....so for 400 whp id say youd prob get there around 2000.00, maybe less depending on the flash and who deos the tuning.Also on the ix ive heard you can make 400+ on the factory turbo no prob....its decently underrated from from the factory, they say it has 286 hp, but mine dynoed at 264 with no mods


You dynos at 264 wheels? WHat is the power train loss for the evo? What does 264 wheels equate to in flywheel hp?

[D Money]

Get the IX!

The MR is nice because they shift super nice, sometimes when i drive my friends evo 8 5MT it's tough to shift, but when I drive the MR it feels much better. Reguardless, evo IX's with tbe, intake, flash, and 1 cam are doing 400whp on stock turbo!

[Mr. SUAVE]

Everyone is getting a 9. I'm jealous! oh well....

[peteyturbo]

I'd think the MR is worth the extra $$ but I may be biased since I own one..The suspension is set up more for daily driving, and is much more comfprtable, and stable over bumps while cornering, all while providing better maximum handeling performance over stock struts.
MR also comes with a 6 speed that I prefer much more then the 5 speed, it also has teflon coated shifter cables and an upgraded clutch disc that provides more cushion.
Also don't forget it comes with an aluminum roof that lowers the center of gravity by a decent amount, along with the vortex generator and "zero lift kit" (installed on IX's) which offer 10 percent more downforce..
I know when I drive regular EVO's (non-MR) it feels very "bumpy and bouncy" compared to my car..
It all depends on what you prefer and what kind of deal you can get. I paid 500 more then an EVO with sun and sound package for my MR.. Most people that get to test drive the MR's usually buy them..

[92dxman]

I would go with the RS. I rode in one this past weekend and it was really nice not having the wing in the back. Crank windows were a nice addition also!!

[CarbonIS]

i was seriously thinking about an sti or evo. I went and test drove both an
06 sti and an evo MR. The evo MR is def. faster when u get into it, but the
cheapness of it was a total turn off to me. Personally, if i'm going to buy a
$36000 car that i'm going to drive everyday, it better look like a $36000 car.
Not only that, the turning radius sucked, and having it be out of production for
18 months is a little scary parts-wise.

[peteyturbo]

Well if you can buy parts for 15 year old DSM's, I don't think evo's will be a problem..
So you test drove both cars and didn't buy either one?? You deserve a medal for self control!!On a side note, most people don't buy theese cars for looks..i was seriously thinking about an sti or evo. I went and test drove both an
06 sti and an evo MR. The evo MR is def. faster when u get into it, but the
cheapness of it was a total turn off to me. Personally, if i'm going to buy a
$36000 car that i'm going to drive everyday, it better look like a $36000 car.
Not only that, the turning radius sucked, and having it be out of production for
18 months is a little scary parts-wise.

[CarbonIS]

regardless, $36000 is alot for a car, imo, and it should have the amenities to
match the price tag. that engine and suspension is not worth $36000 to me.

Still thinkin about the sti tho.....

[peteyturbo]

Nothing even comes CLOSE to theese cars in the their price range as far as performance. Theese are performance cars, and thats all they are.. If you like more ammenities you should look into other models in the price range. The only ammenity the Sti had over the EVO is a nicer dashboard, and thats not even an amenity, plus whatever your opinion is on looks..FYI the EVO sun and sound package is very nice with leather trim and seating.. OR you can wait for the EVO X which is supposed to be much more refined as far as features are concerned..regardless, $36000 is alot for a car, imo, and it should have the amenities to
match the price tag. that engine and suspension is not worth $36000 to me.

Still thinkin about the sti tho.....

[92dxman]

The numbers that they put out for the price are pretty damn impressive. Road and Track did an odd comparo of an MR and a Cayman S and the MR put up almost identical performance numbers to the Cayman yet being $20-$25k cheaper.

[05Accent]

Whoot for the EVO VIII GSR!!!! who needs 6th gear..???

[Evolved]

i was seriously thinking about an sti or evo. I went and test drove both an
06 sti and an evo MR. The evo MR is def. faster when u get into it, but the
cheapness of it was a total turn off to me. Personally, if i'm going to buy a
$36000 car that i'm going to drive everyday, it better look like a $36000 car.
Not only that, the turning radius sucked, and having it be out of production for
18 months is a little scary parts-wise.
I would say that they aren't the cars for you. You should look at an infiniti, acura or bmw. You don't seem to get what the Evo and STi are about.

[CarbonIS]

yeah, cuz i know nothing about cars.

[Evolved]

yeah, cuz i know nothing about cars.
That's not what I'm saying but if that's how you want to read it, fine.

[CarbonIS]

i do get what the sti and evo are about, actually, and there is no comparison
between the evo and sti and any other performance car like a porsche, because
they aren't made witht he same end in mind. The evo, especially, is made for
cheap performance, I get that. BUT $36000 is not cheap, at least not for me.
Thats why i said to me, that car's not worth it to me. It was my opinion, and
this thread isn't about me. I'm just saying that I wouldn't buy it.

[Buster]

Im with bill on this one, When I bought my 05 WRX, I looked into the RS, GSR, and the STi. In the end I realized that I could spend alot less on a WRX and not much in mods and blow past all three. These cars are all about the drivers opinion. I personally felt that the EVO although very easy to drive, seemed cheap inside and out and the STi just wasnt practical enough. I love my WRX and I mos def love the EVO and STi but honestly trying to choose between them is like vanilla vs chocolate.

[MPowerKai]

i do get what the sti and evo are about, actually, and there is no comparison
between the evo and sti and any other performance car like a porsche, because
they aren't made witht he same end in mind. The evo, especially, is made for
cheap performance, I get that. BUT $36000 is not cheap, at least not for me.
Thats why i said to me, that car's not worth it to me. It was my opinion, and
this thread isn't about me. I'm just saying that I wouldn't buy it.

No, 36k is pretty good if you really think about. The Evo and STi are performing around M3 level and the M3 costs 63k out the door NOT fully loaded. They also perform just as well off the road as well as on the road something an M3 could never do.
But I also see what your saying, for that much I'd get a 325ci or 330ci bmw. Much less in the peformance area but you get that nice interior and that awesome quarter inch thick sound proofing foam.

[jspek]

ok all this bickering over "luxury ****". pfft. im not wth you on this one bill. ill by an evo for the performance aspects not the interior. i think car interiors nowadays are crap anyway. i dont know any other car i can buy in those price ranges that you can do so much with. so much meaning 9-10 sec 1/4s and tearing up auto x courses.

[MPowerKai]

ok all this bickering over "luxury ****". pfft. im not wth you on this one bill. ill by an evo for the performance aspects not the interior. i think car interiors nowadays are crap anyway. i dont know any other car i can buy in those price ranges that you can do so much with. so much meaning 9-10 sec 1/4s and tearing up auto x courses.

I don't even know any factory cars at the 65k price range that do the quarter in 9-10 :-p

[peteyturbo]

Mabye stick with the sport/luxury class, it sounds like thats what you want out of a car..

[SilverTurboRidin]

...Cant get everything these days...unless you shell out about 120K+ for a ferrari or porsche

[9 Ball]

Markley02,

If you're going to mod your Evo I would get a GSR (possibly an RS to save even more, however, I like A/C and ABS.) You can always upgrade the struts later on down the line to something better. As for the Vortex generator, simply pick up one at your convenience. I installed one a few weeks ago and it really does help stability at high speeds and turning. I could feel a big difference in the “before and after.” I can take turns at a slightly higher speed more smoothly (the car is solid.)

I think the MR is a great car but it doesn’t make much sense to purchase the car at that cost and then mod it. The six speed is great but you can get by with 5 on the GSR. The shift feel is a little notchy on the GSR but a counter weight shift knob can make the transition much easier and very smooth. Again, I love how the MR feels, but if you plan on modding, I think the GSR is the way to go. I also got my car for $30,995.

Im with bill on this one, When I bought my 05 WRX, I looked into the RS, GSR, and the STi. In the end I realized that I could spend alot less on a WRX and not much in mods and blow past all three.

I love the WRX but I would have to disagree with that statement. I drive all three cars (the Evo, WRX, and STi.) My friend “Philly Boy” has spent almost as much on his WRX as I have on my Evo (he got lucky and found a transmission for really cheap) and he’s pretty much hit the wall at 300whp. This is with a VF22 turbo, big ass injectors, front mount intercooler and piping, and a version 4 transmission. We did all the work and some of it was a real hassle. If he wants to “safely” go further he’s gotta change the internals. I’ve spent roughly the same amount (*on power modifications*) and I’m at 350whp and just getting warmed up. I still have a stock turbo (with an exhaust housing from a 9,) injectors, and intercooler. And I’ve got the "old" 2003 Evo 8.:wink:

Don’t get me wrong, I love the Rex… it’s a great car. And 300whp is more than enough to have fun with. But if you plan on going “balls to the wall," the Evo is the way to go.

Porsche owners are on the run from me now.:devil: