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koho2731
05-14-2006, 11:31 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/koho2731/oldfly.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/koho2731/PICT0036.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/koho2731/PICT0034.jpg


I'm going to try to get better pics in the morning, but this is what left of my clutch, flywheel, and pressure plate. I got the wrong flywheel (6 bolt not 7bolt) and I never looked at it until I tried to bolt the damn thing up so I have to call and get the right one sent out. Hope fully the can get it out to me quick cause the car right now is sitting in PA with the trany on the floor of my moms house and I'm rocking my step fathers car a 93 sl2

xEJ20x
05-14-2006, 11:32 PM
The clutch plate marcel seems to be in decent condition still.
However, the pressure plate and flywheel have seen better days.

koho2731
05-14-2006, 11:41 PM
On the out side of the disk it's starting to come apart and it worn very thin the other side is wors but I couldn't get a good pic of it

95nracer
05-15-2006, 12:15 AM
Throw some gas on it and light it on fire!


Is there small cracks all around the flywheel? When we pulled Allies it had cracks all through it.

koho2731
05-15-2006, 12:55 AM
Throw some gas on it and light it on fire!


Is there small cracks all around the flywheel? When we pulled Allies it had cracks all through it.
There is a few small cracks on the flywheel, but its warped too

silver05bullet
05-15-2006, 12:56 PM
just get a new clutch and flywheel better than having to put all the stuff back on and then take it off again in a day or two

koho2731
05-15-2006, 06:18 PM
Yea the was no way I was going to put the stock crap back in it's just to much work to do again for the same problem

koho2731
05-15-2006, 07:42 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/koho2731/perssureplate1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/koho2731/flywheelcrack.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/koho2731/flywheel2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/koho2731/clutchdisk3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/koho2731/clutchdisk2.jpg

Just some better pics of the abuse that the stock clutch tried to handle :lol:

2point4DSM
05-15-2006, 08:30 PM
The disc is done. The flywheel actually looks better than Allies stock flywheel, lol.

koho2731
05-16-2006, 12:19 AM
The flywheel look a lot better then the one out of my 86 prelude that the had a huge crack on the mating surface :lol: I just can't belive how heavy the stock flywheel is.

2point4DSM
05-16-2006, 12:49 AM
It gets so much easiser to shift the tranny with a light FW. The revs drop so fast the syncros don't even get a work out. The problem is launching the car becomes a lot more tricky. Not to mention it becomes a lot harder not to look like a noob in day to day traffic revving the car a little higher so it doesn't stall coming from a stop and making it buck every so often.

eviltalon
05-16-2006, 03:19 AM
just get a new clutch and flywheel better than having to put all the stuff back on and then take it off again in a day or two
X2 puttin those parts back on would be a waste of time.

peteyturbo
05-21-2006, 07:28 AM
melt them cand cast yourself a new FW, then make a clutch with odds and ends from pops utility shed..
They are toast, and if you drag race, stay with a stock, unlightened flywheel..

2point4DSM
05-22-2006, 10:16 AM
if you drag race, stay with a stock, unlightened flywheel..

Only problem with that is the stock FW is cast iron and has a tendency to go, kaboom! I would not trust a stock FW on a car that sees boost on a daily basis.

When stock Flywheels explode they have a tendency to destroy hoods, trannies, motors and turbos at the same time. The scariest thing is when shrapnel comes into the cabin.

peteyturbo
05-22-2006, 05:54 PM
I have used aftermarket lightened FW's before, and every single one I used only lasted a few trips.. For AWD cars we need to slip the clutch a considerable abount genorating alot of heat and the lightweight FW's can not handle the heat..I've used the surface insert type and chromoly, they crack too easily..Cast iron can take the heat and the number of people who grenade their flywheel is very, very small.. I would not trust a LW flywheel that sees LAUNCHES on a daily.. Agree to disagree:cool: Only problem with that is the stock FW is cast iron and has a tendency to go, kaboom! I would not trust a stock FW on a car that sees boost on a daily basis.

When stock Flywheels explode they have a tendency to destroy hoods, trannies, motors and turbos at the same time. The scariest thing is when shrapnel comes into the cabin.

ej20wrx123
05-22-2006, 06:15 PM
maybe thats just your driving style and your a little heavy on the clutch to save your tranny. I've only heard of people have a issuses with the jun flywheels since they are so light. I've heard very few complaints about the act fw and for 250 you can't really beat it. After seeing the video of the galant that had his FW explode at E-town i wont use a stock FW

peteyturbo
05-22-2006, 06:43 PM
I had used the JUN and it lasted 5,000 miles with an ACT 2600 on a low 13 second car, heat spots everywhere and cracking, although spoolup was significantly improved (15psi @ 2250 with ported 14b..On my other FW the friction plated were just toasted..FYI the FW on the galant that grenaded the FW at E-town was a " lightened" stock FW, I know the owner, Doug..Turbotrix stopped lightening the FW's after that happened I believe..maybe thats just your driving style and your a little heavy on the clutch to save your tranny. I've only heard of people have a issuses with the jun flywheels since they are so light. I've heard very few complaints about the act fw and for 250 you can't really beat it. After seeing the video of the galant that had his FW explode at E-town i wont use a stock FW

ej20wrx123
05-23-2006, 01:19 PM
what was the other FW you had? I'am not surprised that you toasted the JUN but do you have anything to say about the ACT FWs?

peteyturbo
05-25-2006, 12:57 AM
I never had the ACT, I think it was Fidanza mabye, one of the firts guys to offer the replaceable surface FW's, but they are both very similar in design..I will say that with A/C on, and a light FW in a 4g63 turbo, when you try to pull out you will need alot of clutching..You definitely need to slip the clutch pulling out from a stop alot more with a LWFW.. It's basiclly a "gain some, lose some" mod that goes both ways..Make your decision based on what kind of driving you do the most..what was the other FW you had? I'am not surprised that you toasted the JUN but do you have anything to say about the ACT FWs?

peteyturbo
05-25-2006, 12:59 AM
BTW I have some galant parts that have not been accounted for yet.. Au. spec. clear corners, whiteline swaybars, interior peices, Rally light bar for Hella's, Factory bra, couple other things..LEt me know if you need anything..

ej20wrx123
05-25-2006, 02:26 AM
i just got the act fw i'll let you know how it works out

2point4DSM
05-25-2006, 07:57 PM
I've had the Fidanza lightened FW for a while now. I've definitely slipped the clutch hard a couple times and so far it seems like things are holding up fine.

peteyturbo
05-26-2006, 07:30 PM
couple times??:rotfl: Time to hit the track, turn up the boost, and see what that thing is made of!!I've had the Fidanza lightened FW for a while now. I've definitely slipped the clutch hard a couple times and so far it seems like things are holding up fine.

koho2731
05-28-2006, 01:43 AM
Well I finally got the car back toghter and back home with a few issuses I had to go back to the stock slave cyl becuse the clutch pedal wouldn't come off the floor unles I have the master adjusted so that it was a 1/4 " input in the rod all the time. Also now I have some new issuse to deal with I have p0135 code (bank 1 #1 o2 heater curcet and the ECM is not reconising the VSS so I drove 2.5 hrs home with know Idea how fast I was going. I'm leaning toward the ECU just becuase I have a spare one. The car isn't the bad to drive just have to rev to about 2k to take off no big deal.