Finally a GSX!

[180sxDrifter]

Well I finally got the car I have been waiting for today. A 98 Eclipse GSX.. pick it up tom, Can't wait! looking for a BOV/exhuast/inatke for it if any of you have them let me know.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/BSPerformance/58ad789a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/BSPerformance/7f4bcc66.jpg

[wrxman60]

very nice, what was the last year they made them, 99?

[Silverfc88]

So do you still have the 240? I would just leave the BOV alone or get a 1g unit. Looks like a nice car. Do you have any bigger pics?

[180sxDrifter]

yea 99 was the last year

ATM I do, but I need to sell it to pay off the eclipse. 1g's are good, but I'm not gonna be running any crazy numbers anytime soon, so a nice HKS ssqv will do me for now. Plus I wanan scare little kids on the street lol.

I'll have better pics tom

[koho2731]

Get the car running good 1st then mod it. The 1st thing I would do is ck for shaft play on the T25. They are junk. Your stock compressor bypass valve is only good for stock boost levels it'll lk pretty much any thing over that.

[xEJ20x]

So how much did this run you?

[Driven]

Looks nice, just out of curiosity though, why does it have the GS/GST wheels on it?

[05Accent]

i like the gsx.. looks clean..

[97TurboDSM]

how come it has GST wheels on it and not the GSX wheels? either way beautiful car, it'll love you if you love it first

[hystericfox]

Get the car running good 1st then mod it. The 1st thing I would do is ck for shaft play on the T25. They are junk. Your stock compressor bypass valve is only good for stock boost levels it'll lk pretty much any thing over that.

Yeah I just noticed yesterday that mine is on it's way out. Good thing I have the other one sitting in the garage.

[180sxDrifter]

$10,501 after tax titles and tags and emmisons and all that bs.. I dunno why it has the ghetto fake crome wheels, but I'm prob just gonna scuff em up and spray em black

how should I check for shaft play?

[koho2731]

pull the inlet to the turbo and see if you can move the shaft around in and out is bad up and down is normal becuase ther is no oil in the turbo but it should move that much either

[US_R33]

congrats on the purchase.....sorry to see the 180 go....10 grand into that thing would've been nice :devil: but to each his own

now you just have to look out for AWD understeer :lol:

you should come out to the autox event on the 20th this month....it'll give you a chance to get a good feel for how the car handles w/o wrapping yourself around a tree mid-corner :thumbup:

- Daniel

[On Sale]

its funny, i sold my 240sx, for a 97 gsx and it was 10,500 ... haha. weird world.

[EvlEgl]

How many miles on the car?

Bookmark www.Vfaq.com (You'll thank me later)

Good Luck with it, Basically you need to realize There amazing cars, But they need to be cared for and treated right.

And when something breaks fix it right the first time.

[Francesco]

nice pick up...

i might get a gsx someday.

[xEJ20x]

nice pick up...

i might get a gsx someday.

Along with an NSX, Civic hatch, Ferrari...

The list goes and goes, Frank.

[olmytsi]

$10,501 after tax titles and tags and emmisons and all that bs.. I dunno why it has the ghetto fake crome wheels, but I'm prob just gonna scuff em up and spray em black

how should I check for shaft play?

They are not ghetto wheels..they are stock gst wheels lol.

[180sxDrifter]

lol I know, but id rather have gsx ones, and the fake crome is bubbling up... but I love this car only prob I have seen is white smoke out the exhaust

[On Sale]

lol I know, but id rather have gsx ones, and the fake crome is bubbling up... but I love this car only prob I have seen is white smoke out the exhaust


blown turbo

[EvlEgl]

x's 2 find a 14b STAT

[Driven]

blown turbo

Just out of curiosity, how do you diagnose a car based on the comment "white smoke"? I'm not disagreeing, but it could be any number of things, including something as simple as a bad PCV valve. I'd hate to see the kid dump money into a new turbo only to further complicate his problem. The T25 isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be. I went 13.4 on it with minimal mods, I don't think 12's would have been out of the question had I stuck with it a few weeks longer.

Good luck with the car, DSM's can be awesome as long as you stay on top of them maintenance wise. Most of the "problems" you read about with DSM's are caused by neglect or just blown way out of proportion. You may find you can do a lot more than expected with parts if you just know what you are doing.

[96s14]

Sad to see the 240 go. This summer they will be doing great things.

[EvlEgl]

its a DSM, with a stock turbo...while I dont know the mileage...i'm gonna assume its not low.

Its not an uncommon problem, and while you may be right...i'll bet its a turbo.

[2point4DSM]

white smoke out the exhaust

White smoke is water. It's very common for the exhaust to have some water in there in the mornings. Nothing wrong with that. It has nothing to do with a turbo cause when turbos go bad they usually burn oil which would produce blue smoke.

And DSMs are very picky when it comes to BOVs. The HKS unit will not work well. The only one you should consider at this point is the stock 1g unit.

[TalonTsi97]

Whats your plans for the car? what do you want it to do/ be when you mod. Do it once and do it the rite way. Search and just be wise with your money and make sure everything is good before modding.
Good luck

[redfiveoh14]

does teh white smoke continue after it warms up or is it just while its cold... if it continues prob a head gasket.

[redline]

does teh white smoke continue after it warms up or is it just while its cold... if it continues prob a head gasket.

BINGO, easy fix and do a compression test to see where it stands.

[180sxDrifter]

The car has 97,3xx miles on it, I didn't see any of the white smoke, my dad said he saw it when I was driving home from the dealer.. dunno if it was constant or not

The plans I have for it are to just get an intake, turbo back, bov, rims and lower it untill I get it paid off... Then I want to upgrade to a FMIC and bigger turbo setup

[koho2731]

BINGO, easy fix and do a compression test to see where it stands.
A compression ck is all ways a good thing to do when you buy a used car, but it can and will miss a head gasket problem if it's only a small lk. The best way to ck for a blown head gasket it to do a lk down ck and to do a coolant pressure ck. Blue smoke is oil, white smoke is usally condensation, but if it has a sweet smell you have big problems, black/gary is fuel

[koho2731]

The HKS unit will not work well.
Sorry to thread jack but why doesn't the HKS work? My SSQV is working great for me(yes it's recirculated).

[EvlEgl]

It takes a bit to get to work, I think most Blow offs work well with the car...While the stock 1g unit does work wonderfully...not everyone likes it...or prefers a unique sound.

[olmytsi]

Do a compression test.

[180sxDrifter]

yea its just white smoke but no smell.. and I'm planning on getting the ssqv

how do I do a compression test? I have the compression tester, and I know u connect it to the spark plug.. but then what?

[On Sale]

The car has 97,3xx miles on it, I didn't see any of the white smoke, my dad said he saw it when I was driving home from the dealer.. dunno if it was constant or not


light blue can be mistaken for white. could be a simple problem. i was just stating a fact, based on my experiance. But one time i started my 2g up and it idled for 10 mins, and when i hit the gas it filled a 7-11 parking lot with white smoke, drove home, smoking the whole way.. started it up 3 days later and it never smoked again.

[redline]

yea its just white smoke but no smell.. and I'm planning on getting the ssqv

how do I do a compression test? I have the compression tester, and I know u connect it to the spark plug.. but then what?

Disconnect all spark plug wires, then remove all spark plugs for less stress on starter and it will save your battery. Instal guage and crank engine the same amount on each cylinder. Your readings should be within 10% of each other, if not there is a problem. Also helps to have 2 people:thumbup:

[redline]

A compression ck is all ways a good thing to do when you buy a used car, but it can and will miss a head gasket problem if it's only a small lk. The best way to ck for a blown head gasket it to do a lk down ck and to do a coolant pressure ck. Blue smoke is oil, white smoke is usally condensation, but if it has a sweet smell you have big problems, black/gary is fuel

Agreed:thumbup: I was just saying do a compression test before modding!

[KissMyIS]

I just figured I would toss in my 2 cents here since I did in fact own a 98 GSX.

1> Get your money back. You just bought a high mileage DSM. You probably could have bought one of a much better quality (from getting ripped off on the wheels, to smoke problems) for about the same amount. The GST rims, which you will rice out by painting black (it looks horrid), are 1 inch smaller (16s) then the much better looking and highly valued GSX rims and the "chrome" is already bubbling?

2> The first mods you should do should be intake (unless you plan on doing 50 trim+) , exhaust (start w/ the full 3 inch as it will cover you the life of the car), and turbo (16gs are cheap now) IMO. BOV would be the next step, since technically you should not be boosting over 14 PSI (stock BOV limit) w/ a 95k mile t25 anyway.

I know you like the car, but I sold my GSX at 125k (7k modded) miles and I maintained the hell out of it. If you put a decent amount of miles on your car a year you will soon see some issues. If it hasnt crankwalked by 100k IMO it wont be walking anytime soon, but the mitsus are notorious for their crank seal case leak problems. Just make sure you stay on top of it.

Heres a pic of my 98
http://www.dsmtuners.com/gallery/files/1/5/7/5/6/15756smallfront.jpg

[ej20wrx123]

heres a nice talon for a little cheaper http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=973127

[ej20wrx123]

Disconnect all spark plug wires, then remove all spark plugs for less stress on starter and it will save your battery. Instal guage and crank engine the same amount on each cylinder. Your readings should be within 10% of each other, if not there is a problem. Also helps to have 2 people:thumbup:
should you stop fuel from getting in the motor....by pulling a fuse?

[KissMyIS]

Do some research and check dsmtuners.com

Theres a fully built 97 GSX 70k on the clock running 11s no problems for 11k.
TSI AWD 95 42k orig miles .. 11k
Stroked 95 gsx w/ 98 kit 500 awhp @15psi ..15k

[2point4DSM]

Sorry to thread jack but why doesn't the HKS work? My SSQV is working great for me(yes it's recirculated).

I have never heard of a fast DSM using a HKS SSQV successfully.

I've known many people that have tried it and found problems with it.

Since yours is recirculated then you won't notice it leaking. Otherwise, since they tend to leak your turbo has to work harder to make boost. Still, a big turbo goes a long way in hitting your target boost. If it was a smaller turbo you might be wondering why your only making X boost when most people with similar setups are making X++ boost.

[KissMyIS]

to further reinforce what 2.4 was saying...

On circulated setups (this excludes non circulated GM MAF setups) it is an increasing trend to use proven recirculated BOVs. (1g crushed, greddy) The simple reason being that these BOVs are track proven to handle whatever you can throw at them. The HKS, while I have not used it (and I used alot of bovs), simply does not perform as well (see above thread). If your all about having people hear the sound (even tho greddy is decently loud)... get a GM MAF and use a turbo XS RFL. People will notice you then.

[347gtvert]

10.500 for a DSM w/ 98,000 miles. LMAO

They are always beat to hell, and best part, you bought it from a dealer http://www.delvalracing.net/board/style_emoticons/default/banghead.gif

[2point4DSM]

Do some research and check dsmtuners.com

Theres a fully built 97 GSX 70k on the clock running 11s no problems for 11k.
TSI AWD 95 42k orig miles .. 11k
Stroked 95 gsx w/ 98 kit 500 awhp @15psi ..15k

Guys,
It is hard to say what every car is worth without actually looking at it, test driving it, and figuring out finance numbers, etc.

I've seen low 11sec DSMs go for as little as $5k and high 12 sec DSMs go for as much as $15k. Most times it comes down to how clean it is inside and how straight the exterior is. The fast cars tend to be beat up more inside and out. Where the immaculate cars are the ones that fetch the most money.

There was a recent ebay auction for a 1g that fetched $8-$11k. It was mint and all original and had very low miles. Most 1gs are going for $500-$3k.

[EvlEgl]

Agreed...You cant tell right off the bat how the car is or if its automatically a bad deal.

I'm sure he shopped around for it

[koho2731]

I know I kinda got screwed with my 95 Talon TSi AWD. I paid 5200 for it with 103k. Which was high book at the time the guy wouldn't go down any more and I couldn't find any cars that were in good shape and in my budget. I ended up parking the car after two weeks becuase of massive shaft play in and out, but it never once smoked. Good luck with the car at lest you bought the car YOU wanted.

[KissMyIS]

Guys,
It is hard to say what every car is worth without actually looking at it, test driving it, and figuring out finance numbers, etc.

I've seen low 11sec DSMs go for as little as $5k and high 12 sec DSMs go for as much as $15k. Most times it comes down to how clean it is inside and how straight the exterior is. The fast cars tend to be beat up more inside and out. Where the immaculate cars are the ones that fetch the most money.

There was a recent ebay auction for a 1g that fetched $8-$11k. It was mint and all original and had very low miles. Most 1gs are going for $500-$3k.

Right, and its also easy to assume that a 98 GSX even in "Excellent" condition, which from the defects already listed makes it not, at 98k miles is ~ 7k private party value. Buying a smoking car with the less rare wheels (with defects), just seems like a ripoff.

[redline]

should you stop fuel from getting in the motor....by pulling a fuse?

You can, I never did before. That is a good idea that i always overlooked, as long as you dont have your spark plugs in I dont really see a need unless your smoking under the hood!

[koho2731]

if you do a compression ck with the fuel system still working you # will be high. I found it to be easiest IMO to pull the back seat up and unplug the fuel pump with the car running and let it die, but DO NOT rev the engine at all it'll die soon enough

[redline]

if you do a compression ck with the fuel system still working you # will be high. I found it to be easiest IMO to pull the back seat up and unplug the fuel pump with the car running and let it die, but DO NOT rev the engine at all it'll die soon enough

I honestly never ran into this, but I believe you.

[koho2731]

You have to remember how you ck the rings to see if the are the cause of the low readings. You add a small amount of oil to the cly and if the commpression goes up your rings are done. If not it could be a valve not sealing or head gasket problem

[redline]

You have to remember how you ck the rings to see if the are the cause of the low readings. You add a small amount of oil to the cly and if the commpression goes up your rings are done. If not it could be a valve not sealing or head gasket problem

True, but this will tell you only if your compression ring is bad, and will not tell the condition of the oil rings.

[koho2731]

yea, but which ring usally goes 1st

[redline]

yea, but which ring usally goes 1st

Boosted car = compression ring

N/A car = Oil rings

[koho2731]

Any car that is has detonation is going to take out the compression ring 1st, but it realy dosn't matter once the compression shows low the motor has to come apart anway