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Mr. SUAVE
05-07-2006, 12:16 AM
http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=198492&page=1

Twin_Cam
05-07-2006, 01:27 AM
*creams pants*

Gorilla Unit 33
05-07-2006, 02:43 AM
omg thats beautiful

james_ls
05-07-2006, 10:56 AM
Uggh Sick!!

S4toSTI
05-07-2006, 10:59 AM
Automatic. LOL jk yeah the veyron is a cool car but it doesn't do it for me. It is not a raw super car it is luxurious and soft oh and awd. Its a carrera gt for me anyday. and i would save 600k.

9 Ball
05-07-2006, 11:13 AM
I like the car in white. Looks great.

TurboTagTeam
05-07-2006, 11:46 AM
Automatic. LOL jk yeah the veyron is a cool car but it doesn't do it for me. It is not a raw super car it is luxurious and soft oh and awd. Its a carrera gt for me anyday. and i would save 600k.

I feel the same. It's like a superfast bently. Plus it kinda sucks that they needed 16cylinders and 4 turbos to make 1000hp. If I would ever buy a supercar, there's nothing but a McLaren F1 for me. I'v sat in one. You feel like your strapped into a rail car. That's a drivers car.

S4toSTI
05-07-2006, 12:04 PM
I feel the same. It's like a superfast bently. Plus it kinda sucks that they needed 16cylinders and 4 turbos to make 1000hp. If I would ever buy a supercar, there's nothing but a McLaren F1 for me. I'v sat in one. You feel like your strapped into a rail car. That's a drivers car.
Yeah i think the whole 16x4 is to make the power usable for people who are gonna drive this car to the earlier bird special. Either way i think it looks great but not for me. The mclaren is a car with no expense spared everything made for the car to be perfect. This car had no money spared so it could say it has no money spared. This car is soft. And yes it is amazing it can go 253 blah blah blah and it is way faster then a mclaren f1 blah blah blah but its a boat period.

Twin_Cam
05-07-2006, 12:08 PM
It's true one of those would be nice just for the sheer "holy eff" factor, but I'd take a 427 Cobra replica or something highly-boosted and 4WD before that. And I'd save a helluva lot of money.

EvlEgl
05-07-2006, 12:17 PM
Lets face it...given the chance to own one we all would.

While it may not appeal to everyone if Some guy just happened to say oh here take my veyron I dont want it Anymore...are you gonna say no? Doubtful.

Sexy car.

S4toSTI
05-07-2006, 12:19 PM
Lets face it...given the chance to own one we all would.

While it may not appeal to everyone if Some guy just happened to say oh here take my veyron I dont want it Anymore...are you gonna say no? Doubtful.

Sexy car.
NO **** no one is gonna say no buttttt if someone gave me one i would sell it and buy something else and a house. and still have money left over.

EvlEgl
05-07-2006, 12:21 PM
Without driving it first?

S4toSTI
05-07-2006, 12:28 PM
Pretty much. Cause the luck of something like that is someone would hit you and then you have a big paper weight and become e famous lol.

TurboTagTeam
05-07-2006, 12:32 PM
I would definatly drive it for a little. Who wouldn't??? But I would most defiatly sell it and buy a mclaren f1. Or there is a few other cars I'd like to have other than a veyron.

99SL2_Modder
05-07-2006, 01:34 PM
McLaren F1 is overrated, period. There's tons of faster and better engineered cars for cheaper.

Saleen S7, for example.

S4toSTI
05-07-2006, 01:37 PM
Ok and if you think the mclaren is over rated which you are wrong about then i cna't imagine what you think of the veyron. Ina ll seriousness i would have a f40.

EvlEgl
05-07-2006, 01:42 PM
Holy drunk post.

Why is the Mclaren Overrated...Drivetrains are glass?:lol:

99SL2_Modder
05-07-2006, 01:44 PM
Holy drunk post.

Why is the Mclaren Overrated...Drivetrains are glass?:lol:

Wow, do people even read my posts?

All you see is "McLaren F1's are overrated."

Not a single one of you finished reading the post, which went on to say: "There's tons of faster and better engineered cars for cheaper."

McLaren F1's are as overrated as a Skyline. No offense to skyline owners, but seriously, come on now...

S4toSTI
05-07-2006, 01:45 PM
Wow, do people even read my posts?

All you see is "McLaren F1's are overrated."

Not a single one of you finished reading the post, which went on to say: "There's tons of faster and better engineered cars for cheaper."
Well faster meaning higher top speed not really. Faster 0-60 i guess.

99SL2_Modder
05-07-2006, 01:47 PM
Well faster meaning higher top speed not really. Faster 0-60 i guess.

Top speed is a retarded way of comparing cars.

S4toSTI
05-07-2006, 01:48 PM
Top speed is a retarded way of comparing cars.
As is 0-60

EvlEgl
05-07-2006, 01:50 PM
When you can say you've driven a Mclaren to cmpare it to these other faster cheaper cars then i'll let you say it's overated.

Right now you and the rest of us are using magazines to compare how a car is.

Yeah there could be faster cheaper supercars out there...but who's to say it drives nicer than a Mclaren?

99SL2_Modder
05-07-2006, 01:53 PM
As is 0-60
True that.

When you can say you've driven a Mclaren to cmpare it to these other faster cheaper cars then i'll let you say it's overated.

Right now you and the rest of us are using magazines to compare how a car is.

Yeah there could be faster cheaper supercars out there...but who's to say it drives nicer than a Mclaren?
Well then, going by your statement, how do you even know a McLaren drives nice? Because a magazine told you?

EvlEgl
05-07-2006, 01:55 PM
I guess you didn't see the question mark at the end of my post.

And i think it's safe to say for that price it drives Nice.

S4toSTI
05-07-2006, 01:55 PM
I guess you didn't see the question mark at the end of my post.

And i think it's safe to say for that price it drives Nice.
I disagree more then you know. Just because something is expensive doens't mean its good.

99SL2_Modder
05-07-2006, 01:57 PM
I disagree more then you know. Just because something is expensive doens't mean its good.
Agreed

S4toSTI
05-07-2006, 01:58 PM
Agreed
If i wanted something for handleing speed and amazingness that was cheaper then anything mentioned i would buy a gt3.

EvlEgl
05-07-2006, 01:59 PM
I agree but you have to look at the engineering used in building the car. I dunno...we could argue all day about it.

S4toSTI
05-07-2006, 01:59 PM
I agree but you have to look at the engineering used in building the car. I dunno...we could argue all day about it.
Such as... come on this is a good discussion and it is very on topic don't cop out.

99SL2_Modder
05-07-2006, 02:00 PM
I agree but you have to look at the engineering used in building the car. I dunno...we could argue all day about it.
If you're talking about that, then again, there's tons with the same and even better than the F1.

Again, just because magazines rant and rave about a single car being "the best there is", doesn't mean it is even close to it.

S4toSTI
05-07-2006, 02:01 PM
If you're talking about that, then again, there's tons with the same and even better than the F1.

Again, just because magazines rant and rave about a single car being "the best there is", doesn't mean it is even close to it.
I don't disagree with him fully cause if you don't have info form tv shows and magizines about cars then most people wopuld have no clue at all.

99SL2_Modder
05-07-2006, 02:04 PM
I don't disagree with him fully cause if you don't have info form tv shows and magizines about cars then most people wopuld have no clue at all.
At 160mph, the Saleen S7 could be driven upside down and still maintain contact with the road. Talk about avoiding tunnel traffic jams.

If that's not good engineering, every car built to date sucks.

S4toSTI
05-07-2006, 02:05 PM
At 160mph, the Saleen S7 could be driven upside down and still maintain contact with the road. Talk about avoiding tunnel traffic jams.

If that's not good engineering, every car built to date sucks.
You are big on this s7 and it never did anything for me. It is cool but ehh.

99SL2_Modder
05-07-2006, 02:09 PM
You are big on this s7 and it never did anything for me. It is cool but ehh.
I just think it's a decent car. Probably among the few Fords I'd buy.

And it only comes with a 400k price tag.

And its engineering is pretty damn good.

There's others that I'd consider too, but the S7 is a car that can be compared to most things we're talking about since everyone knows what it is.

S4toSTI
05-07-2006, 02:11 PM
I just think it's a decent car. Probably among the few Fords I'd buy.

And it only comes with a 400k price tag.

And its engineering is pretty damn good.

There's others that I'd consider too, but the S7 is a car that can be compared to most things we're talking about since everyone knows what it is.
As far as fast american cars go i think the s7 is trumped by the new z06 and the ford gt.

EvlEgl
05-07-2006, 02:17 PM
same here...the s7 never made my skirt fly up.

EvlEgl
05-07-2006, 02:22 PM
The new z06 In relative terms has a quicker e/t stock for stock and is 300k Cheaper...But to call it a supercar would be very Bold.

I'd take a zo6 over an s7 anyday.

technology has davanced immensly...the mclaren was built in 93...but the 06 zo6 would give a mclaren a run for its money both down the 1/4 mile and on a road course.

its all about the WOW factor nowadays though. If i see a zoey parked next to a Mclaren...I'm gonna drool all over the Mclaren

99SL2_Modder
05-07-2006, 02:24 PM
As far as fast american cars go i think the s7 is trumped by the new z06 and the ford gt.
I'm not sure I agree, I still think the S7 pumps out faster quarter miles at sub 11 seconds. Which is also still faster than the F1.

As for the C6 Z06, it is on par with the S7 in a lot of ways.
The lateral acceleration is just insane at 1.02g's. That's even with the S7.
Both utilize a 7l v8 engine pumping out over 500 horses (S7 being on top with 575) and with only a 400lb difference between the 2 cars, the race would be an incredible one. Incredibly close. The times between the 2 cars are pretty close in the 60 and 100mph range, so it should be pretty even throughout. It's all top gearing at that point.

On the Ford GT, it lacks a little, but makes up a ton. Instead of using pure displacement, it uses a 5.4l v8 with a supercharger. Now, the lateral acceleration isn't quite matching, it still hits an even 1g, which is still a holy ish factor. Then it lacks in weight at almost half a ton difference to the S7. It's still fairly close from the 60 and 100's, but not enormously so. The race would be incredible again, but the outcome is predetermined as the S7 being the victor.

The closer race would be the Z06 vs the GT. They are much closer in gearing than the S7. But for normal people, the Z06 takes the win because it's under 100k. A clear choice for the price conscious.

99SL2_Modder
05-07-2006, 02:26 PM
The new z06 In relative terms has a quicker e/t stock for stock and is 300k Cheaper...But to call it a supercar would be very Bold.

You're not talking about the Z06 compared to the S7, are you?

Because E/T's are almosta full second difference in the S7's favor. The S7 runs high 10's with the Z06 running mid 11's, along with the Ford GT that's also in mid 11's.

The McLaren vs the Z06 would be a little hair-raising, but the McLaren would still win, as a half second difference between the 2 is still evident. The gearing is very close though.

S4toSTI
05-07-2006, 02:26 PM
I'm not sure I agree, I still think the S7 pumps out faster quarter miles at sub 11 seconds. Which is also still faster than the F1.

As for the C6 Z06, it is on par with the S7 in a lot of ways.
The lateral acceleration is just insane at 1.02g's. That's even with the S7.
Both utilize a 7l v8 engine pumping out over 500 horses (S7 being on top with 575) and with only a 400lb difference between the 2 cars, the race would be an incredible one. Incredibly close. The times between the 2 cars are pretty close in the 60 and 100mph range, so it should be pretty even throughout. It's all top gearing at that point.

On the Ford GT, it lacks a little, but makes up a ton. Instead of using pure displacement, it uses a 5.4l v8 with a supercharger. Now, the lateral acceleration isn't quite matching, it still hits an even 1g, which is still a holy ish factor. Then it lacks in weight at almost half a ton difference to the S7. It's still fairly close from the 60 and 100's, but not enormously so. The race would be incredible again, but the outcome is predetermined as the S7 being the victor.

The closer race would be the Z06 vs the GT. They are much closer in gearing than the S7. But for normal people, the Z06 takes the win because it's under 100k. A clear choice for the price conscious.
We are eye to eye on that.

EvlEgl
05-07-2006, 02:35 PM
the twin turbo s7 goes sub 11 seconds...it also makes 200 more horses than a zoey.

the inagural s7 introduced in 01 was a 7 liter v8 making 550 horses. That was stated to go 11.8's down the 1320

04 Turbo Spec
05-07-2006, 02:41 PM
i would sell that car buy a skyline dump a **** load of money into it then finish my s2000 then buy a house then buy something else

99SL2_Modder
05-07-2006, 02:45 PM
the twin turbo s7 goes sub 11 seconds...it also makes 200 more horses than a zoey.

the inagural s7 introduced in 01 was a 7 liter v8 making 550 horses. That was stated to go 11.8's down the 1320
Umm, no.

The 01 ran 11.4's, and the 04 runs 10.8's. The 05 TT runs 10.7's. There isn't a whole hell of a lot of boost used, and I really think the TT has some major traction issues when it's running 750hp/700ft-lbs.

Twin_Cam
05-07-2006, 03:11 PM
Personally I think the car that was built for the Grassroots Motorsports $2006 Challenge is the coolest car, way cooler than the Bugatti. It's a Fiat Spyder with a Chevy 350 that runs a 10-second quarter mile. And it cost less than $2K. 10 seconds for $2000. I love it.

TurboTagTeam
05-07-2006, 03:57 PM
If you're talking about that, then again, there's tons with the same and even better than the F1.

Again, just because magazines rant and rave about a single car being "the best there is", doesn't mean it is even close to it.

No car has ever had the racing history the Mclaren did. It was ungodly at Le Mans. No to mention that it was and still is one of the fastest cars ever made. And it did this on a N/A v-12. The car is over 12years old and is still one of the best engineered cars ever made.

And who cares what these cars run in the 1/4 mile??? Do you think Gordon Murry/Steve Saleen desighned their car to be fast in a 1/4 mile???? Hell no. They are street legal Grand Touring cars.

Syline GTR--- I can't think of one negative thing to say about this car. I also has a superior racing history. It's not over rated. It's hyped up because it's pretty much untoutchable on the race track. You can argue it all you want. But every most teams in the JGTC running skylines carried alot of weight just to give everyone else a chance.

The new Z06---Can't say anything negative about this car. It's the first american car I'v liked in awhile.