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D Money
04-23-2006, 01:48 PM
No, it's not mine but this is very impressive and yes it's with alky but this kid is holding the new record for fastest stock turbo wrx without NOS.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=988795

D Money
04-23-2006, 01:49 PM
http://www.icsperformance.com/junior5.htm

BlackBulletTSi
04-23-2006, 02:34 PM
Is he lying on the stock part like you do?

BlackBulletTSi
04-23-2006, 02:37 PM
UTEC, DSBC, coated header/uppipe combo, catless tbe with 2.5" axleback, Helix TMIC, JDM intake manifold, turbo inlet, CAI, lightened crank pulley and this week I added the SMC alcohol injection and all group N drivetrain mounts.

Also thats not stock to me......but further thinking when you say stock turbo wrx your talking about JUST the turbo?

wgknestrick
04-23-2006, 02:40 PM
I for one, don't get all of these stock part records. BFD. You changed every other part but the most important, and now you think you have some sort of record.

Hell, there could be a 7L small block in there and as long as the stock turbo is on, it's a "record".

Is it an accomplishment, yes.

D Money
04-23-2006, 02:44 PM
UTEC, DSBC, coated header/uppipe combo, catless tbe with 2.5" axleback, Helix TMIC, JDM intake manifold, turbo inlet, CAI, lightened crank pulley and this week I added the SMC alcohol injection and all group N drivetrain mounts.

Also thats not stock to me......but further thinking when you say stock turbo wrx your talking about JUST the turbo?
Nah, I meant stock wrx from the factory hits a 12.6 by a miracle. I shoulda specified that. lol No stock turbo, but the other things help but some stuff is not needed like the jdm intake manifold, intake, and some others.

teh DIRT
04-23-2006, 03:00 PM
i heart td04. i got one sitting in my room >)

D Money
04-23-2006, 03:02 PM
lol yea alot of kids are going 12's with them for some odd reason. Some kid the other day went 12.9 without alky and without nx.

teh DIRT
04-23-2006, 03:10 PM
i doubt ill go twelves with it since ill be running a FMIC and that will kill its effciency. Although I will have a higher displacement so who knows....and ill be custom tuned.

D Money
04-23-2006, 03:15 PM
Tell bryan to give you one of the 5 vf34's or 16g's he has at his house lol. You will def be much faster with someone else but either way it will rip.

teh DIRT
04-23-2006, 03:53 PM
well the tdo4 is just for the time being to get the motor done.....ill probly do a super 16 eventually.


back on topic: i wonder what jamie is at now a days? (orbit)

D Money
04-23-2006, 03:54 PM
last I saw was a 13.0 or 13.1 at atco fully gutted.

teh DIRT
04-23-2006, 03:56 PM
oh and im a ton lighter than a wrx so 12's actually might be a lot easier

MuddyREX
04-23-2006, 11:02 PM
Didn't Orbit run 13.0 on a stock turbo full interior?

2point4DSM
04-23-2006, 11:22 PM
oh and im a ton lighter than a wrx so 12's actually might be a lot easier

I wish my car was a ton lighter than a wrx. The best I could hope for right now is 500 lbs lighter. Maybe by the end of the year I'll be closer to my target weight.

the mike
04-23-2006, 11:52 PM
Jamie is 13.0's, no rear seat.

reeksti
04-24-2006, 12:27 AM
thats crazy

teh DIRT
04-24-2006, 12:29 AM
I wish my car was a ton lighter than a wrx. The best I could hope for right now is 500 lbs lighter. Maybe by the end of the year I'll be closer to my target weight.


haha i didnt actually mean a "TON".

i meant like 600 lbs

resisTm3
04-24-2006, 04:33 PM
ICS... home of the 977rwhp m3 and other monsters... that wrx was definately in the right hands if he was taking it to them

TurboTagTeam
04-24-2006, 04:42 PM
Seems like the turbo was the only stock thing on that car. I don't think it's much of a big deal. People put down 430+rwhp on stock turbo FD's(BNR Stage 3 non-seq). But everything else is far from stock. Same case here.

D Money
04-24-2006, 04:45 PM
Seems like the turbo was the only stock thing on that car. I don't think it's much of a big deal. People put down 430+rwhp on stock turbo FD's(BNR Stage 3 non-seq). But everything else is far from stock. Same case here.
It's a big deal because wrx's are slow and rx7's are not. For a stock turbo wrx to go 12.6 is amazing, he beat the QTP's wrx record of 12.7 and they are running 23psi lol.

03tarmacblack
04-24-2006, 04:53 PM
wow he is my hero

D Money
04-24-2006, 05:06 PM
wow he is my hero
haha he should be, he would probably smoke your evo.

peteyturbo
04-24-2006, 06:10 PM
If he is running alchohol I'm sure he is running alot of boost.. What was the mph?It's a big deal because wrx's are slow and rx7's are not. For a stock turbo wrx to go 12.6 is amazing, he beat the QTP's wrx record of 12.7 and they are running 23psi lol.

TimmahWRX
04-24-2006, 06:18 PM
i thought it was the fastest stock WRX time, if it was, that would have been uber crazy.

how much boost was it running?

D Money
04-24-2006, 06:24 PM
If he is running alchohol I'm sure he is running alot of boost.. What was the mph?
Yea, I am sure of that also. What I was reffering to was the 2nd fastest wrx running like 22-23 psi with no alchohol.

D Money
04-24-2006, 06:25 PM
i thought it was the fastest stock WRX time, if it was, that would have been uber crazy.

how much boost was it running?
No. "Stock turbo", how would someone hit a 12.6 with a bone stock wrx???

TimmahWRX
04-24-2006, 07:04 PM
that's what i thought at first, i was misunderstood obviously

ej20wrx123
04-25-2006, 09:20 AM
he was runing about 21psi but it falls right back down to 16 so its more or less just a spike. The driver is my cousin and he does have plans to run at atco for another tenth or so. What amazes me is that he got 6 runs in and only one wasn't in the 12s

MPowerKai
04-25-2006, 10:04 AM
When I first saw the title I thought it was fastest stock wrx too lol

ej20wrx123
04-25-2006, 11:02 AM
the fastest stock wrx is high 13s or low 14s. And the only way your getting those times is in a 06

EvlEgl
04-25-2006, 03:45 PM
haha he should be, he would probably smoke your evo.

Sweet usage of another mans car to talk ****!!! :prayer:

Stock turbo wooo hoo...

UnderPoweredRS
04-25-2006, 04:39 PM
I can beat that. Give me some time. I trapped 102 on the stock turbo with no launch and shifting at 6k. (redline=7K-ish) and I'm stock everything but a perrin upipe.

UnderPoweredRS
04-25-2006, 04:41 PM
the fastest stock wrx is high 13s or low 14s. And the only way your getting those times is in a 06

Umm I've seen stock WRXs run 14.1s so I could see a stock wrx with a great driver some ice and and nice cold day hitting 13s.

D Money
04-25-2006, 06:36 PM
Sweet usage of another mans car to talk ****!!! :prayer:

Stock turbo wooo hoo...
What the **** are you talking about?

ej20wrx123
04-25-2006, 09:11 PM
Umm I've seen stock WRXs run 14.1s so I could see a stock wrx with a great driver some ice and and nice cold day hitting 13s.
I have never seen a slip for a bone stock wrx in the 13s. I've just heard of them.

D Money
04-25-2006, 09:14 PM
06 wrx bone stock on nasioc running 13.8-13.9. No way will an 02-05 hit that, but pretty close. When I was bone stock, way back when I went 14.3 time after time.

OppositeLock
04-25-2006, 09:25 PM
This is actually my car. I didn't even know this thread was here, I just came over here to see if there was any Atco meets set up, pretty cool. Anyway, if Atco really is faster, then I want to try to pick up the free tenth. Also, my cousin is right, I am running about 21 psi and it tapers pretty quickly on pump/100 and slightly less quickly with the alky.

D Money
04-25-2006, 09:53 PM
nice nice, yea I started the thread because I found it so interesting. You may have just got a factory freak like I did.

OppositeLock
04-25-2006, 10:13 PM
Actually, the fastest my car went when it was stock was 14.4, but that was with STi BBS and RE070s. I never ran it stock with stock wheels. Right now it has a very complementary group of parts on it and a great tune. Like my cousin said, it is super consistent. I ran 5 times between 12.68 and 12.88 that night and that just speaks to how well the car is set up right now.

D Money
04-25-2006, 11:10 PM
thats awesome bro.

1988 Olds
04-26-2006, 10:25 AM
I still thought the new WRXs had the same 227hp engine but I guess I'm wrong. What hp do they make now.

OppositeLock
04-26-2006, 11:17 AM
The new cars have the 2.5l engine and used to make 230hp/235tq before the hp ratings changed again. Most dynos have proven the torque to be a bit underrated though.

Orbit
04-26-2006, 05:19 PM
my 13.0 was with 94 octane @ 16.5 psi of boost and a off the shelf map.. since then my trap has gone up to 103, but still no 12's. I think my stock clutch is holding me back at this point. now what sucks is sunoco no longer has 94 octane.



Jamie is 13.0's, no rear seat.

Buster
04-27-2006, 04:15 PM
I hear that man, I was usin your time (jamie) as my bench mark. I ran a 13.2 @ 101 @ 17 PSI on 94. My stock tires are really giving me a hard time. Good to know that it really is possible to go farther. Would it be bad to use race gas with stock injectors?

UnderPoweredRS
04-27-2006, 04:56 PM
My car tuesday at atco(Karl was there to watch) 13.8 @ 99mph. Light launch and shifting at 6k. Only mod is an SBC-ID running 16psi. No ice no nothin. All stockness intake to muffler.

blewbyU
04-27-2006, 05:17 PM
haha he should be, he would probably smoke your evo.


:rotfl:

12.6 you serious dood....evo has a stock turbo to...put no alcohol, or built motor, or all the bolt ons....you know him personally? or you just hanging off his testicles

D Money
04-27-2006, 05:19 PM
:rotfl:

12.6 you serious dood....evo has a stock turbo to...put no alcohol, or built motor, or all the bolt ons....you know him personally? or you just hanging off his testicles
I was just ****in around. I know what evo's can do, I race them all the time and always win. lol

blewbyU
04-27-2006, 05:22 PM
I was just ****in around. I know what evo's can do, I race them all the time and always win. lol


wow you beat evo's you are just to cool:afro:

D Money
04-27-2006, 05:23 PM
wow you beat evo's you are just to cool:afro:
Why are you comin at me like that? It was a joke yo, chill I was just ****ing wit him since he said the wrx was his hero. I am sure dude has cams and all in his evo and it prolly moves, but I am not a stock wrx like the won that ran the 12.6

blewbyU
04-27-2006, 06:46 PM
i posted that i was just logged on his name for some reason, but nope no cams just the basic boltons and a al@dynoflash tune

D Money
04-27-2006, 06:48 PM
oo haha. I was going to say, why would someone else say ****, but it's straight, I was just ****ing around. No I don't know the kid with the stock turbo'd wrx and I am sure he can't beat your evo. I won't have my car back for atleast 2 months, but when it comes back we can run for fun or whatever.

Buster
04-28-2006, 12:59 AM
My car tuesday at atco(Karl was there to watch) 13.8 @ 99mph. Light launch and shifting at 6k. Only mod is an SBC-ID running 16psi. No ice no nothin. All stockness intake to muffler.

Are you still running the EJ20 in the RS coupe? Thats not exactly a fair statement due to the fact you are running more than stock boost in a light chasis.

Orbit
04-28-2006, 01:17 AM
i went to the track tonight ran a 13.133 @ 103.06 . i thought that the 93 octane would have slowed me down a bit, but i ran more consistent higher traps. I did put the stock bov back on, so i dont know if that had something to do with it or not.

OppositeLock
04-28-2006, 09:14 AM
Nice runs Orbit. Do you go by another SN on other boards(NASIOC)?

Edit: Just read some of the above posts. FWIW, my car doesn't have a built motor and I'm an old guy. (I still feel like a kid though, does that count?:rock: )

Orbit
04-28-2006, 01:08 PM
yeah, on nasioc im JaMeS W . everywhere else it is Orbit. im on the bottom of that stock turbo fastest time list as a near miss. i was 9 th but now im bumped down to 13th. thanks.. lol


Nice runs Orbit. Do you go by another SN on other boards(NASIOC)?

Edit: Just read some of the above posts. FWIW, my car doesn't have a built motor and I'm an old guy. (I still feel like a kid though, does that count?:rock: )

OppositeLock
04-28-2006, 01:43 PM
O.k., I thought that was you. With those traps, you'll be in the 12's soon enough. Have you tried a braided stainless clutch line yet? It seemed to make my stock clutch more consistant.

teh DIRT
04-28-2006, 02:15 PM
My car tuesday at atco(Karl was there to watch) 13.8 @ 99mph. Light launch and shifting at 6k. Only mod is an SBC-ID running 16psi. No ice no nothin. All stockness intake to muffler.

cheater!@@ahaha

Orbit
04-28-2006, 02:16 PM
no, i may have to try that.

what did you run before the alchohol injection? do you have a header?

I think a header may be my next mod.

OppositeLock
04-28-2006, 02:21 PM
no, i may have to try that.

what did you run before the alchohol injection? do you have a header?

I think a header may be my next mod.


I ran a best of 12.94 before the alcohol, but only ran 10 times on that tune. (4 times in the 12's out of the 10) I wish I would have made a couple of runs without the alcohol the other night, the track was perfect. I have the XXTuning header/uppipe combo (GTSpec knock off). Whatever you get, get it coated before you install it. I hated mine uncoated, but it is perfect with the coatings inside and out.

UnderPoweredRS
04-28-2006, 03:12 PM
I know of an evo that ran low 12s on the stock turbo. All it has is TBE larger IC and a boost controler. If you want to make a car fast and don't have a bunch of money to dump into mods the EVO is king. (sorry I'm still a 4g63 guy deep down)

Yes I'm running an ej20 in a GC chassis. I'm only running 2psi over stock so and I don't launch becuase I'm on an RS trans.

BTW if you want to see the evo that I'm talking about click the link in my sig.

D Money
04-28-2006, 03:16 PM
alot of people run into the 12's with that setup on an evo.

Orbit
04-28-2006, 04:05 PM
yeah yeah, we know. evo's can run 11's on stock turbo. but we are not talking about evo's.


I know of an evo that ran low 12s on the stock turbo. All it has is TBE larger IC and a boost controler. If you want to make a car fast and don't have a bunch of money to dump into mods the EVO is king. (sorry I'm still a 4g63 guy deep down)

Buster
04-30-2006, 02:33 PM
I ran a best of 12.94 before the alcohol, but only ran 10 times on that tune. (4 times in the 12's out of the 10) I wish I would have made a couple of runs without the alcohol the other night, the track was perfect. I have the XXTuning header/uppipe combo (GTSpec knock off). Whatever you get, get it coated before you install it. I hated mine uncoated, but it is perfect with the coatings inside and out.

So a header really does make a difference, Thats my next mod. What do you mean "coating" I was planning on heat wrapping it like my Down and Up pipes.

D Money
04-30-2006, 02:56 PM
So a header really does make a difference, Thats my next mod. What do you mean "coating" I was planning on heat wrapping it like my Down and Up pipes.
Keith, chill on the header. You will end up spendin like 5 bills for it when you can get a 16g, modded stock injectors, and pump for like $1000. Save your cash and upgrade the turbo and other ****, you will love it!

Orbit
04-30-2006, 04:42 PM
not everybody has the same goal in mind.

here is a good thread on header comparison still in the works.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=974977&page=1&pp=50


Keith, chill on the header. You will end up spendin like 5 bills for it when you can get a 16g, modded stock injectors, and pump for like $1000. Save your cash and upgrade the turbo and other ****, you will love it!

D Money
04-30-2006, 05:15 PM
I never said everyone had the same goal bro. Why not spend your money effectively rather than on parts that won't do much.

Orbit
04-30-2006, 05:25 PM
wow, 15 to 20 hp isnt much?

I never said everyone had the same goal bro. Why not spend your money effectively rather than on parts that won't do much.

D Money
04-30-2006, 05:42 PM
wow, 15 to 20 hp isnt much?
Nah. You show me a stock turbo that dyno's anywhere near a 16g setup. Whats a stock turbo dyno, 240whp??? 16g is good for over 300whp so where you gettin 15 to 20 hp?

Orbit
04-30-2006, 09:51 PM
not my point. do you think i plan on having a stock turbo forever? no. but when i do upgrade my turbo all the other mods will be done . i will just have to get one tune for all my mods.

if you dont think $500 is worth spending for 15 to 20hp. why do you have a front mount?

Nah. You show me a stock turbo that dyno's anywhere near a 16g setup. Whats a stock turbo dyno, 240whp??? 16g is good for over 300whp so where you gettin 15 to 20 hp?

D Money
04-30-2006, 09:56 PM
not my point. do you think i plan on having a stock turbo forever? no. but when i do upgrade my turbo all the other mods will be done . i will just have to get one tune for all my mods.

if you dont think $500 is worth spending for 15 to 20hp. why do you have a front mount?
O my bad. I read it as if you were reffering to a 16g powered wrx only making 15-20hp over a stock turbo. lol Oh I am looking into headers if that's what you meant, but I heard you loose power down low and gain 10hp up top, doesnt seem worth it to me. As far as the front mount, they suck D and it has so much lag. Honestly to tell you the truth, I have it on there since it's intimidating and also looks good for shows. TMIC has way way way better spool up and can get the job done on any 16g, 18g, or any vf series turbo.

OppositeLock
04-30-2006, 10:27 PM
So a header really does make a difference, Thats my next mod. What do you mean "coating" I was planning on heat wrapping it like my Down and Up pipes.

By coating, I mean something like Jet-Hot.
http://www.jet-hot.com/Pages/coatings.html
I have the Jet-Hot 2000 inside and out. Before the coating the header killed the bottom end of the powerband until it got hot. After the coating spool was very close to stock and I still had the top end gains. I never tried wrapping, so I don't know if it works as well.

Orbit
04-30-2006, 10:37 PM
i think the gruppe-s one that comes jet hot coated for 575 w/free shipping is the best bang for the buck. if you want unequal lenth.

http://www.gruppe-s.com/Subaru/subeng.htm

i have been waiting for those guys doing the header comparison to get to it before buying it. porting and polishing your stock one and getting the injen cross pipe has good gains without losing low end. im looking for more overall power.

IIdiceII
05-01-2006, 05:14 AM
what most people dont understand is that the stock turbo (td04) on a wrx is tiny compared to lets say an evo or an rx7. so for a wrx to run a 12.6 on the stock turbo, thats pretty insane. and yea evo's can run 11's with the stock turbo, but the 16g aint exactly small.

OppositeLock
05-01-2006, 08:40 AM
i think the gruppe-s one that comes jet hot coated for 575 w/free shipping is the best bang for the buck. if you want unequal lenth.

http://www.gruppe-s.com/Subaru/subeng.htm

i have been waiting for those guys doing the header comparison to get to it before buying it. porting and polishing your stock one and getting the injen cross pipe has good gains without losing low end. im looking for more overall power.

Absolutely, if you can get one that comes coated, that is the way to go. That way you don't have to pay shipping twice. The Gruppe-S is also a GTSpec knockoff and has the same design as the one I have. It is a nice piece and you will see good gains, as well as a reduction in egt which will allow for more aggressive tuning.

OppositeLock
05-01-2006, 08:42 AM
what most people dont understand is that the stock turbo (td04) on a wrx is tiny compared to lets say an evo or an rx7. so for a wrx to run a 12.6 on the stock turbo, thats pretty insane. and yea evo's can run 11's with the stock turbo, but the 16g aint exactly small.

Yeah, I'd love to see what my car could do with a super efficient, divided inlet, big 16. It's an awesome stock turbo.

Buster
05-01-2006, 04:35 PM
i actually do want equal length,I heard ryans car and it sounded awesome. My car seems to have more bottom end than most wrxs that I have driven so im also not that concerned with loosing it. Dimitri you know im not that into upgraded turbo, im really afraid of loosing the quick spool. If i can get a 12.9 and trap over 105, either or. I will be very happy.

D Money
05-01-2006, 04:43 PM
i actually do want equal length,I heard ryans car and it sounded awesome. My car seems to have more bottom end than most wrxs that I have driven so im also not that concerned with loosing it. Dimitri you know im not that into upgraded turbo, im really afraid of loosing the quick spool. If i can get a 12.9 and trap over 105, either or. I will be very happy.
True. Well a vf-34 has spool up just like stock turbo and with your driving you can def get into mid 12's with it. Either way I see you goin 12's shortly.

TurboTagTeam
05-01-2006, 08:10 PM
Dimitri knows all about "stock turbos". When you gonna upgrade allready???? Your turbo's so small you make boost at idle :mrgreen: All them bodykits, work wheels, and jdm headlight and no upgraded turbo.

D Money
05-01-2006, 08:44 PM
Dimitri knows all about "stock turbos". When you gonna upgrade allready???? Your turbo's so small you make boost at idle :mrgreen: All them bodykits, work wheels, and jdm headlight and no upgraded turbo.
What? lol.....