Sti is out, Prius V is in. Playing the card I was dealt

[ndubz]

Ok so in a nutshell, the STi took a dump. It was driving weird and I took it in to have it checked out. They opened up the diff and all this metal came out with the fluid. The repair bill was more than my parents were willing to pay so they decided to trade it in on a lease for a car that would not be driven as hard, and be very cheap.

They got me the Prius V you see below

http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr349/ndubs77/PriusV.jpg

Obviously I am pissed, but I still have my miata, and I have decided to make lemonade out of lemons. I plan to throw some Volk TE37s (powdercoated green) on it with bags to slam it and hella stance. It may not be fast but it sure as hell will be unique.

My friend made this to give you a rough idea

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/426735_3022807885819_1131382203_3217498_1217266910 _n.jpg

So look for it at the Sonic meet and others a few months from now, and I'll start a build thread once there is something more to post.

[JankyS13]

just like my 240, you can't polish a turd but damn it you can def add to it. lol

[NowThatsG]

lol @ mommy and daddy sentence.

sweet minivan.

[SvicksTc]

Bag and stance a lease, sounds about as dumb as that car looks...ever think of saving/working and buying your own car

Good luck brah

[Fujito]

Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

[Big_Jim]

I'd throw a light tint on it and call it a day.

[WolfsFang]

just like my 240, you can't polish a turd but damn it you can def add to it. lol

quoted for the truth and how hard it made me laugh.

[nuTinmuch]

I think I just found the very embodiment of first world problems.

[TROLL]

You could likely find a used diff on NASIOC for $500 or less... but I guess its too late at this point. Should have asked for info before you made that move!
I wouldn't mod your Prius... it is what it is and you'll get some sweet gas mileage so just drive the thing and focus modding on your Miata or elsewhere, or hey you could just start stacking up your savings.

[JankyS13]

quoted for the truth and how hard it made me laugh.

http://alltheragefaces.com/img/faces/png/misc-true-story-realistic.png

You could likely find a used diff on NASIOC for $500 or less... but I guess its too late at this point. Should have asked for info before you made that move!
I wouldn't mod your Prius... it is what it is and you'll get some sweet gas mileage so just drive the thing and focus modding on your Miata or elsewhere, or hey you could just start stacking up your savings.


come on man, whats the logic in that. :lol:

btw I heard a little rumor you might work at the times dispatch, if so any chance that was you that came shooting out from under the bridge on old bristol pike a few nights back?

[TROLL]

I did work at the Bucks County Courier Times once upon a time, but its been a couple years. Some days I think of how easy I had it there, but it was really going nowhere so I had to move on.

[DV2000NJ]

Hahahahahahahahahaha

[JankyS13]

I did work at the Bucks County Courier Times once upon a time, but its been a couple years. Some days I think of how easy I had it there, but it was really going nowhere so I had to move on.


sounds like most jobs now a days. :thumbup:

[caldwell]

sweet jesus, dont waste the money... do what has already been said - save the bank roll !

[JankyS13]

and stay the **** out of the hammer lane with that pansy ass mobile

[SHOdude]

I am so so sorry... This is why I buy my own ****ty cars

[jjm4life]

Thanks for making my night.

[JankyS13]

I am so so sorry... This is why I buy my own ****ty cars


we can only hope it happens.
http://fuelzilla.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/floor_mat_jam-300x224.jpg :mrgreen:

[schaffer]

Besides what everyone's said already.



You had an STi and your parents paid for it(basing this on the fact that they wouldn't pay to have it fixed and traded it on a Prius).so they trade it in on a this Prius and you want to ruin that too? Id of been thrilled if my parents bought me a car (which they did,but it was a 94 escort.)

Id of been happy if my parents just bought me a damn moped. Throw a light tint on the car and be happy. Then when you had your own money,maybe your parents will let you trade it in on something you'd really like(hopefully its no an STi that you'll kill)

[jspek]

http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab24/GALLEYNE/ALL%20ABOUT%20EVE/ALL-ABOUT-EVE-5-LAUGH.gif

[Ej6Mike]

Sti to a prius?

*man hugs*

[mckpat03]

^ Perfect .gif. This thread is just too good to be true. Unbelievable.:roll:

[jpalamar]

LOL @ 1. parents buying you a car 2. it being a Prius 3. actually modding a Prius.

I would tint it so people didn't see me driving it and call it a day.

I can't see how replacing a diff cost more then buying a Prius though.

[isved]

I think he's trolling

[dugganzx3]

So I won't make fun of your situation or anything, but why not save the 2-3k your gonna spend on your "bought-for-you" dd, and turbo your Miata or something. Surely it'd be more rewarding than slamming your leased Prius, right? And then in 2 or 3 years when the lease is up you actually have a fun car, and not a set of wheels sitting in your garage....if you have a car why did you need another one? If your set on doing something to the prius, maybe a cheap set of wheels on the stock suspension, and light tint/smoke tails and call it day?

[Noodile]

why not just tint it, and put a bad ass system in there so you can enjoy those uber slow drives around town?

[dudewheresmycar]

epic thread..

[Foolinaround]

Smells like so much troll in here.

[Bates]

Ok let me try to put this all into perspective here:

1. You own a Miata
2. Your parents buy you a STi
3. You break said STi
4. Your parents trade in the STi and LEASE you a Prius V
5. You somehow think that after breaking a STi, that modding a LEASED Prius V is a good idea. Say that a few times in your head: "Modding a Leased Prius." Sounds like a premise to a really bad Ernest movie: "Ernest Mods a Car", but I digress.

I have nothing against leases, I want to to lease a brand new car myself, but I am smart enough to know that if I am not 100% committed to buying the car when the lease is up, modding (aside from maybe some tints, and some type of sound system) is a bad idea. Especially when you bring that thing in for service, considering that most mods will void your warranty.

I think you need to grow up a little and get your priorities straight.

[VarsityDetail]

Despite what people are saying and your situation, I think the prius looks pretty damn good in the picture you posted. On a different note I would say that doing all of that on a leased car isn't the smartest idea. I would save for a little and pick up a 240sx or mod the miata. Either way it's your money so do what you want. Haters gon hate.

-Connor

[DaBombDiggidy]

(mean sounding idea disclaimer)

heres an idea, keep the DD stock and comfortable.

[AWD GS]

The repair bill was more than my parents were willing to pay so they decided to trade it in on a lease for a car that would not be driven as hard, and be very cheap.

They got me the Prius V you see below

Obviously I am pissed,

yea id be pissed too if my parents got me a car



I have nothing against leases, I want to to lease a brand new car myself, but I am smart enough to know that if I am not 100% committed to buying the car when the lease is up, modding (aside from maybe some tints, and some type of sound system) is a bad idea. Especially when you bring that thing in for service, considering that most mods will void your warranty.


theres nothing wrong with modding a leased car. i see people mod them all the time with coilovers, lip kits, wheels, etc... as long as its something that can be removed and returned back to stock then it usually isnt a problem plus you can resell all the parts. yea you wont get as much as you like but that goes with modding in general, leased or not.

also your misinformed on the void warranty issue.

[Datcrazyeric]

Your parents bought you a car and when you broke it they got you another one and your complaining about it?

Best thing you can do is ride out the Prius V and save up your money and when you get enough get another STI or whatever your heart desires.

[Renegade_]

Waaaaaahhh parents bought me cars waaaaaahhhh

When my parents bought me a car I was happy as hell. It was a 97 Jetta 2.slow. If someone handed me a new prius I'd be ecstatic.

[Bates]

yea id be pissed too if my parents got me car




theres nothing wrong with modding a leased car. i see people mod them all the time with coilovers, lip kits, wheels, etc... as long as its something that can be removed and returned back to stock then it usually isnt a problem plus you can resell all the parts. yea you wont get as much as you like but that goes with modding in general, leased or not.

also your misinformed on the void warranty issue.

So then explain it to me. Because I know from experience that you can easily void your warranty by not modding your car properly. (by properly I mean licensed parts like NISMO or MOPAR being installed by the dealerships.)

[JERRYM1997]

Your mom is gonna ground you when you void your warranty

[mcperson2k]

theres nothing wrong with modding a leased car. i see people mod them all the time with coilovers, lip kits, wheels, etc... as long as its something that can be removed and returned back to stock then it usually isnt a problem plus you can resell all the parts. yea you wont get as much as you like but that goes with modding in general, leased or not.

also your misinformed on the void warranty issue.

This is the truth.

When I leased my car the guy told me I could do what ever I wanted on it, except change the color of the car. He even suggested I keep the stock parts to put back on before my lease ends, or that I could trade the car in with the aftermarket parts, but I would get very little, if anything compensated for.

They changed the law around a little bit for both, but most of the time, lease warranty's are a little different then when you are purchasing a car.



I can't imagine how much money your parents have if they refused to pay a repair cost on a car because they thought it was too high, so they leased a new car instead...

[jpalamar]

Your warranty can only be voided if the specific aftermarket part caused the part in question to fail. Ex, you can put a CAI on your car and have a crank pully go. The CAI does not have anything to do with the crank pully so they have to fix it under warranty.

Granted, many dealers will try and 'void' your warranty but they legally can't. It is a battle in court and probally not worth the money to fight it but you WILL win. The bottom line is that modded a new car that has its warranty is just plain stupid.

[JERRYM1997]

On my cruze they said I can do anything I want except mod the powertrain itself. Bolt ons and appearance mods are ok. Am I gonna slam a lease though? No I'm gonna save money for when my lease is up so I can buy a nice car.

[DV2000NJ]

Nick, you silly.

[Philly03wagon]

http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab24/GALLEYNE/ALL%20ABOUT%20EVE/ALL-ABOUT-EVE-5-LAUGH.gif

best. gif. reponse. ever.


Pssshhhh, my dad bought me a car too when I was 18 in 2003…… a 1990 Honda accord.

As everyone said, throw a light tint on it and call it a day. In the end, its your car and you can do what ever you want with your money.

[daewoo]

this has got to be a joke

[Noodile]

Are people hating on the idea that "mommy and daddy" bought him a car? or just pissed at him not being appreciative?

[mckpat03]

I think everyone is hating on him for being an idiot.

[Philly03wagon]

Are people hating on the idea that "mommy and daddy" bought him a car? or just pissed at him not being appreciative?

both.

[Bates]

Your warranty can only be voided if the specific aftermarket part caused the part in question to fail. Ex, you can put a CAI on your car and have a crank pully go. The CAI does not have anything to do with the crank pully so they have to fix it under warranty.

Granted, many dealers will try and 'void' your warranty but they legally can't. It is a battle in court and probally not worth the money to fight it but you WILL win. The bottom line is that modded a new car that has its warranty is just plain stupid.

Yes that I understand, and that makes perfect sense. But I have heard about some BS happening. Like I know someone that has a Spec-V, it was an 03 Spec-V that has known issues that cause the engine to pretty much blow up. He put an after market header on the car to battle the one issue (failing pre-cat on the stock header), and it was about a week or 2 after he did that, the other huge issue these cars have (butterfly screws in the secondaries loosen themselves and get sucked into the engine) happened and destroyed his engine. Somehow the dealership blamed the failure on the after market header and wouldn't cover the cost of a new engine. Grant it this was years ago but still, you can't be too careful.

Pretty much you said what I was trying to say: If you have a new car under warranty, modding it is asking for trouble. The last thing you want to do is void the warranty on a leased car and be forced to cover any maintenance costs yourself. Just doesn't seem worth the risk, especially for a Prius.

[AWD GS]

So then explain it to me. Because I know from experience that you can easily void your warranty by not modding your car properly. (by properly I mean licensed parts like NISMO or MOPAR being installed by the dealerships.)

Magnum-Moss warranty act

Your warranty can only be voided if the specific aftermarket part caused the part in question to fail. Ex, you can put a CAI on your car and have a crank pully go. The CAI does not have anything to do with the crank pully so they have to fix it under warranty.

Granted, many dealers will try and 'void' your warranty but they legally can't. It is a battle in court and probally not worth the money to fight it but you WILL win. The bottom line is that modded a new car that has its warranty is just plain stupid.

this

my steering rack went in my lexus, took it to the dealer and it was replaced no problem. the car was even slammed on coilovers and never questioned because it did not cause the problem.

[SvicksTc]

Ill chime in on the warranty info...I had a heavily modded toyota celica (in highschool) in which the engine throw a rod...they tried to blame my coilovers, 19'' rims, tried saying i had nitrous on the car that was previously removed, that i altered the ecu so they couldnt see the last "action" of the car...so on and so on...you name it, they tried to blame it...(as far as saying my interior modifications of custom system changed the weight distribution of the car (are you serious?)

So i got a lawyer and went through the process of taking them to court (since the new motor was like 8gs) Just so happened my dads lawyer owned him a favor and he did it pro-Bono...

Well in a nutshell after about 2 1/2 months of bickering outside of court and right up to the day of court they were fighting the warranty claim...come the night before court, they settled and took full responsibility for the warranty claim...

Assholes!

The aftermarket part has to be the direct reason for failure to void warranty as sated above covered under the magnum moss warranty act...Although they fight that **** tooth and nail and take advantage of many people

but still BAGGING A LEASED PRIUS MUHWAHAHAHAHA, this **** is retarded, sounds like the apple doesnt fall to far from the tree in terms of ignorance gained from your parents

Not knocking you for having them buy you a car, hell my rents bought my first car and it was a pretty penny...I totaled it and that was the last of that ****, lol

But really, for you saying that your all into cars and ****, you could of easily fixed the STi, but yet your rents get you a lease? Epic Facepalm is in order my friend

[AWD GS]

Ill chime in on the warranty info...I had a heavily modded toyota celica (in highschool) in which the engine throw a rod...they tried to blame my coilovers, 19'' rims, tried saying i had nitrous on the car that was previously removed, that i altered the ecu so they couldnt see the last "action" of the car...so on and so on...you name it, they tried to blame it...(as far as saying my interior modifications of custom system changed the weight distribution of the car (are you serious?)

So i got a lawyer and went through the process of taking them to court (since the new motor was like 8gs) Just so happened my dads lawyer owned him a favor and he did it pro-Bono...

Well in a nutshell after about 2 1/2 months of bickering outside of court and right up to the day of court they were fighting the warranty claim...come the night before court, they settled and took full responsibility for the warranty claim...

Assholes!

yea they'll try and screw you because they think people will just accept it and sadly most people would.

[Bates]

yea they'll try and screw you because they think people will just accept it and sadly most people would.

Well to an extent I don't blame them. Sometimes it isn't worth the hassle to fight back.

[SvicksTc]

yea they'll try and screw you because they think people will just accept it and sadly most people would.

Ya it was really sad, to the point i will never get one of those extended warranties, or any of that extra bull**** ever again...because its not worth the hassle for the extra 4-5 grand they stiff you when purchasing them...

They make you feel all warm and fuzzy when you buy one from them (getting commission) but if you go to use it.. HAHA good luck!

Bend over and bring your own lube, because they are rough

[Bates]

Ya it was really sad, to the point i will never get one of those extended warranties, or any of that extra bull**** ever again...because its not worth the hassle for the extra 4-5 grand they stiff you when purchasing them...

They make you feel all warm and fuzzy when you buy one from them (getting commission) but if you go to use it.. HAHA good luck!

Bend over and bring your own lube, because they are rough

When I read that all I thought about was the "guarantee" scene from "Tommy Boy" Lol.

"IF you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed for you I will, I have spare time."

[AWD GS]

Well to an extent I don't blame them. Sometimes it isn't worth the hassle to fight back.

sure it is. do you like just giving away money? thats pretty much what your doing when they should cover a part for you instead of saying you "voided" your warranty

[Bates]

sure it is. do you like just giving away money? thats pretty much what your doing when they should cover a part for you instead of saying you "voided" your warranty

So then I am forced to invest even more time and more money (to hire a lawyer) and take them to court and fight it, when it all could have been avoided by simply not modding my warrantied car?

Sure I want them to honor their warranty, but when I give them that all to convenient scapegoat, aka "the mod in question", I am just looking to start trouble.

No one likes to give away money, and I understand what you are saying completely, but when you play with fire, you will at some point get burned.

[O2SpecV]

do they even make coilovers or springs for priuses?

[ndubz]

do they even make coilovers or springs for priuses?

They will soon enough. Im starting the Prius scene. Friends of mine can custom fab and adapter for some coils.

[01 Trans-Am WS6]

STi to Prius damn........

[WolfsFang]

I don't know why people are breaking his balls about his parents buying his car. So what? My parents helped me with a repair bill that was unseen. I should of fought the dealer but I just wanted to get out if their asap.

Sent from my DROID X2 using Tapatalk

[httrdd]

Your parents must hate you!

[AWD GS]

I don't know why people are breaking his balls about his parents buying his car. So what?

guess you missed the part where he said he was pissed because they got him a prius

[Got Insulin?]

Pics, of you in it, or it didn't happen.

[Slevin]

I can't see how replacing a diff cost more then buying a Prius though.

this. as soon as i read this i knew he was trying to troll. if he's serious, then his parents never deserved to have children in the first place.

[JB'sLGT]

Lol @ starting the Prius scene. They've been modding hybrids in Japan for a long time and I know 2 guys that have tastefully, well-modified theirs.

[JankyS13]

Are people hating on the idea that "mommy and daddy" bought him a car? or just pissed at him not being appreciative?

You've it all wrong broham, we are laughing that the herp dur derps didn't learn their lesson after getting him the STI and then go out and get an el-fagatron pri-ass. Then the twat waffle following his herp dur derps footsteps decides it's a great idea to mod an over priced econo box that even gay people are embarrassed to drive. Guess it's true, apple doesn't fall far from the tree. :bigeek:

The thought of him being an ungrateful little **** throwing himself on the ground screaming while kicking and throwing his has nothing to do with wanting to see him do a barrel roll. :supz:

[lownslow95]

The OP said it was a lease. Why on gods earth would you mod a lease? You're just asking for trouble when you need to go in for routine maintenance. I hope the OP gets :banned:.

[SHOdude]

Maybe you should try blowing the prius up and see if they buy you a huffy. On a serious note. Just drive the miata or be happy your not walking.

[JankyS13]

Maybe you should try blowing the prius up and see if they buy you a huffy. On a serious note. Just drive the miata or be happy your not walking.

wait a second here, who should buy the huffy? the twat buy the huffy or the herp dur derps? or should they go halfzies? :lol:

[lownslow95]

You've it all wrong broham, we are laughing that the herp dur derps didn't learn their lesson after getting him the STI and then go out and get an el-fagatron pri-ass. Then the twat waffle following his herp dur derps footsteps decides it's a great idea to mod an over priced econo box that even gay people are embarrassed to drive. Guess it's true, apple doesn't fall far from the tree. :bigeek:

The thought of him being an ungrateful little **** throwing himself on the ground screaming while kicking and throwing his has nothing to do with wanting to see him do a barrel roll. :supz:

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[JST2KWIK]

you have pics of yourself in every car imaginable but no pic of your akward smile in this electric beast. I'm calling :bs: of the 1st degree.

EDIT: And no article on your blog? Def BS

[SHOdude]

wait a second here, who should buy the huffy? the twat buy the huffy or the herp dur derps? or should they go halfzies? :lol:

The herp de durps, I feel kinda bad. The op really got prison fu*ked, why not drive the miata

[lownslow95]

It seems like all the morons are coing out of hibernation today.

[JankyS13]

The herp de durps, I feel kinda bad. The op really got prison fu*ked, why not drive the miata

unno bro, guess since kids now a days, think nut huggers (http://thoughtsfromparis.com/wp-content/uploads/man-tight-jeans.jpg) are manly now, than daily driving your project car is a little girly. Such a confused generation. :lol:

[lownslow95]

unno bro, guess since kids now a days, think nut huggers (http://thoughtsfromparis.com/wp-content/uploads/man-tight-jeans.jpg) are manly now, than daily driving your project car is a little girly. Such a confused generation. :lol:

:rofl:

[Fujito]

Pretty much you said what I was trying to say: If you have a new car under warranty, modding it is asking for trouble. The last thing you want to do is void the warranty on a leased car and be forced to cover any maintenance costs yourself. Just doesn't seem worth the risk, especially for a Prius.

If Mitsubishi gave an option to opt out of a warranty and pay less for the car then I would have.

I don't know why I'm responding to this in this thread. This thread is full of win, though.

[jpalamar]

If Mitsubishi gave an option to opt out of a warranty and pay less for the car then I would have.

I don't know why I'm responding to this in this thread. This thread is full of win, though.

You shouldn't have to pay more for the warranty then without. The car should work when its brand new.

[Fujito]

Ron Paul 2012

[aducarab]

at least you'll get good gas mileage...

[SvicksTc]

Ron Paul 2012

/thread

[Fujito]

ndubz represents how the education system has failed us.

Do away with the Department of Education. It's a colossal failure.

Ron Paul 2012.

[marshallpre1]

Obvious troll is obvious. I miss iridefierogt

[SHOdude]

Obvious troll is obvious. I miss iridefierogt

Dont say that rick can sense when his name is brought up

[mckpat03]

ndubz and jankys13 represent how the education system has failed us.

Do away with the Department of Education. It's a colossal failure.

Ron Paul 2012.

Fixed.

[ndubz]

ndubz represents how the education system has failed us.

Do away with the Department of Education. It's a colossal failure.

Ron Paul 2012.

I think it is more like 90% of the people in this thread have proven how the education system has failed us. Seeing as to how we have reached page 5 now. An STi to a Prius......Really?

With the exception of a few decently smart people, most of you did indeed fall for this. You have been served a hilarious troll and I have been enjoying this for the whole day because of it. Thanks for the entertainment, I forgot how easy it was on here.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/004/949/trolldad.jpg

Good Day Gentlemen...........

[lownslow95]

This just further proves your an idiot.

[DV2000NJ]

This just further proves your an idiot.

No, I'm pretty sure it proves that TST is full of people who take this website, and the internet as a whole WAY too seriously, and get off on being e-thugs.

The amount of anger in this thread is hilarious.

[russiankid]

Your mom and dad still bought you the STi, regardless.

[ndubz]

Your mom and dad still bought you the STi, regardless.

I know 1%. Hatin?

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/aww-yea-meme-original.jpg

[ndubz]

No, I'm pretty sure it proves that TST is full of people who take this website, and the internet as a whole WAY too seriously, and get off on being e-thugs.

The amount of anger in this thread is hilarious.

Pretty much sums it all up. Thank you for putting it so eloquently Dan

[jjm4life]

while i wish it had been true, i could care less that its not.


that being said, i hope you drive off the ben franklin bridge.

romney 2012.

[FocusDude]

I want one for the Fam, won't lie- But I gotta be honest, would never consider it for my son. I'd rather him not drive, unless he's driving our's.

Good luck, just don't stare at the stupid mpg's all day like most pri-ass drivers do. Acceleration should be used when entering highways, and please for the love of god, dont brake ten miles ahead of actually needing to. :P

[FocusDude]

Your mom and dad still bought you the STi, regardless.

But this fact is what makes all your nonsense political thought. It all makes sense to me.

I'm not hating, I'd buy my 17 year old kid a STi if I could... and he has half a brain cell when the time comes.

[ndubz]

I want one for the Fam, won't lie- But I gotta be honest, would never consider it for my son. I'd rather him not drive, unless he's driving our's.

Good luck, just don't stare at the stupid mpg's all day like most pri-ass drivers do. Acceleration should be used when entering highways, and please for the love of god, dont brake ten miles ahead of actually needing to. :P

Read post 83

but if it were real, i would have appreciated the advice lol

[JST2KWIK]

The thread

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Focusdudes head

[MattBear]

ndubz represents how the education system has failed us.

Do away with the Department of Education. It's a colossal failure.

Ron Paul 2012.

All I got outta this thread. agree

[enigma]

I love how rapidly ndubs posts rapidly decend into 5+ page ****storms.

[Renegade_]

I love how rapidly ndubs posts rapidly decend into 5+ page ****storms.

Im not even out of page 3 yet. Raise your post/page count.

[SvicksTc]

while i wish it had been true, i could care less that its not.


that being said, i hope you drive off the ben franklin bridge.

ron paul 2012.

Good man!

But I think it proves you just have no life tool

[ScarletSaturn]

I avoided this thread for a reason. That said, I read through it...and you guys are sooooooooooooo gullible lol

[Got Insulin?]

Respect the new thread button, troll.

[Supraru]

Not sure why anyone would believe anything ndubz says. Guy has proven over time since he's been on here that he's a troll.

[SvicksTc]

Being a complete waste of server space, being a tool countless upon countless times...trust me no one will miss him