Heres a crazy question

[O2SpecV]

ls v-tec integra turbo or high mileage evo?? This is what i am pondering on right now for my next car choice, i have only 12k to spend so finding an evo is going to be hard, and if i find one in my price range i feel like its only gonna have high milage and problems. As for the integra i can find one relatively cheap and already built, lemme know what you guys are thinking this is going to be for a dd

[Domrok]

Buy my turbo Integra it's as mint as they come and I'll sell it really cheap for a quick smooth sale...350whp low miles full interior great for daily. No BS.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a259/Peanutsandoil/Acura%202/5-1-2008-3-2.jpg
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[300zx_tt]

How much^ that teg looks clean as he'll man

[Bates]

ls v-tec integra turbo or high mileage evo?? This is what i am pondering on right now for my next car choice, i have only 12k to spend so finding an evo is going to be hard, and if i find one in my price range i feel like its only gonna have high milage and problems. As for the integra i can find one relatively cheap and already built, lemme know what you guys are thinking this is going to be for a dd

High mileage EVO can be problematic as it was most likely beat on (you could get lucky), and a boosted Integra, well I don't know enough about Hondas, but I would not buy someone else's project regardless of the type of the car. Where is the fun in that?

[mckpat03]

Why not buy a sensible daily daily driver?

[O2SpecV]

well i want something fun

[DB Dude]

Evo will be WAY more fun than an LS-vtec teg. Will also be WAY more reliable for a DD. Turbo LS-VTEC and u r just asking for trouble/problems/issues... and no, I don't care how long your friend has been driving his, I've been around long enough to know that pretty much every LS-vtec motor, especially those that are boosted, will inevitably take a dump on you. With that said, I doubt u will find a non-molested EVo for 12k, but could probably find a turbo ls-vtec for MUCH under that. U can't have the best of both worlds though, U will not have the same reliablilty and performance with the Integra.

[RWDTurbo149]

High mileage EVO can be problematic as it was most likely beat on (you could get lucky), and a boosted Integra, well I don't know enough about Hondas, but I would not buy someone else's project regardless of the type of the car. Where is the fun in that?

I dont think you can get lucky on a high mileage evo, chances are that in the 100k that its been driven, its at least been driven spiritedly. I mean its an EVO when it comes down to it.

If you think your gonna find a high mileage evo that was driven by a grandma, your not. its going to be hacked up and not worth the problems it will give you.
That boosted teg looks very nice, i think you'd be better off staying away from a high mileage evo and just look for some V-TAAAAC

[EklipzGSXkid]

I have a one owner evo with higher milage that was bought new from the dealer in 03. ZERO problems. Send me a PM when you're ready to purchase a car. Also have subaru's ETC. Cant list any more info in here as I'm sure it would just get deleted and reported as a ''forsale post''.

[Fujito]

Evo's are for ricers

[92accordex]

LSvtec teggy ftw

[05Accent]

Evo's are for ricers

:iagree:

[DPancoast]

I would say if the teg isn't sleeved or forged internals don't expect it to be a reliable daily in the long run. The guy I bought my teg off of went though 2 other blocks before he finally did it "right".

I am in no way knowledgeable when it comes to Honda. Just speaking from what I read/saw/heard when looking for my teg.

I don't have vtec but man is 340whp fun lol. And I'm getting amazing gas mileage to boot. then again I don't dd mine since I have a low mileage jeep beater.

Evo will be a better all season dd for you with awd and above average allseason tires. Just have to worry about previous owners and how they treated it IMO. Whatever you decide good luck. Domroks car is built to handle some abuse if you ask me so it is a good option. Or come over to team-integra.net and look around. That's where I found mine.

[ASIAN JUL]

Buy both and then give me whichever one you don't feel like keeping... :eek:

Haha, in all seriousness... I'd vote EVO if you're gonna spend that much.

[JSpecV03]

The integra route will most definetly be cheaper. So many things things come into play. what is the condition of the engine? well if its a stock ls block and with a stock b16 head for example and running low boost, like 8-10 lbs, as long as you take care of the thing it will be good. hondas are really realiable. beat on, high millege, id stay away from that.
high boost with stock interals and well...yeah.. we all know the answer to that.
another route you could go is gsr and turbo and make a relaible 300 whp all day. IIRC, gsr internals are stronger than ls internals. I would have to think they would be cuz the gsr obviously revs higher than the ls and makes more power. however, fully built ls vtecs in n/a form will make more power than a fully built gsr in n/a. turbo should be the same way.

a used evo for 12 k is gonna be hard to come by, just like everyone else said, its gonna hacked up, beat on, driven hard. and yeah its an evo. not a ford taurus grocery getter. lol

[Proven]

w/ 12k I would be looking for a Integra with a K swap. Easily obtain 200+ whp n/a with bolt on's and have Honda reliability for daily driven.. Only prob. with the Teg would of course be fear of theft.

[JSpecV03]

w/ 12k I would be looking for a Integra with a K swap. Easily obtain 200+ whp n/a with bolt on's and have Honda reliability for daily driven.. Only prob. with the Teg would of course be fear of theft.

likes this! you can get a complete jdm type r k20a swap for like 5 grand.

[jjm4life]

i cant imagine a teg is 12k.
i also cant imagine buying someone elses 10+yr old turbo'd car. sounds like a recipe for disaster. that being said an evo in the 12k range sounds like a serious gamble too.
considering anything else?

[DB Dude]

LS-VTEC= Taking a bottom end that is not designed to rev to 8K, and slapping a head on it which will entice you to do just that. LS bottom ends are not designed to take that kind of abuse (high revving vtec or boost); the stroke is longer and the rods are weaker (recipe for disaster). While it may make a little more tq than a GSR, so much less reliable. Your best bet if u r stuck on the Integra idea would be to find a non-molestered GSR and start from scratch doing it right. Otherwise all u r doing is buying someone else's problem.

[O2SpecV]

i am open really for all options besides a wrx or sti

[AutobahnRacer]

Evo will be WAY more fun than an LS-vtec teg. Will also be WAY more reliable for a DD. Turbo LS-VTEC and u r just asking for trouble/problems/issues... and no, I don't care how long your friend has been driving his, I've been around long enough to know that pretty much every LS-vtec motor, especially those that are boosted, will inevitably take a dump on you. With that said, I doubt u will find a non-molested EVo for 12k, but could probably find a turbo ls-vtec for MUCH under that. U can't have the best of both worlds though, U will not have the same reliablilty and performance with the Integra.

Don't listen to this guy. High mileage EVO will be more trouble, maybe not now, but definitely down the line. Honda Motors are about as reliable as they get. You can beat the snot out of them and they still run until at least 200k miles if done right. Who says the EVO will have better performance, you can do anything you want to a car and make it out perform another (to an extent). Reliability Integra will win, performance, that depends how much gets/is put into it.

[Got Insulin?]

The 4G63 is bulletproof and more and more high-mileage adult-owned EVO's are popping up on the cheap. I'd go EVO all day.

[BigWhiteTodd]

98-02 camaro cant go wrong with a ls1 car haha

[94integra]

Rsx?...

[OutToWinPAHC]

Ehh I guess you don't have the time to build a car so it's tough. I really comes down to particular car VS car. I know for 12K you can pick up a ton of teggy's. If you do go this route play hardball.

You want to see the engine blue print's, you want check compression, you want to get it on a lift and go over it. There are so many "fully built" cars out there, but as soon as you say show me the engine documentation and blueprint and specs they change their tone quite fast.

[O2SpecV]

yeah the white one on the first page is actually a really nice teg

[ndubz]

Evos in that range will have had the **** kicked out of them. And an Integra like u speak of will surely be stolen within a week....and then stolen from the people who stole it within another week......and so on and so forth until the earth falls into the sun.

Moral of the story, buy a Volvo

[SovXietday]

LS-VTEC= Taking a bottom end that is not designed to rev to 8K, and slapping a head on it which will entice you to do just that. LS bottom ends are not designed to take that kind of abuse (high revving vtec or boost); the stroke is longer and the rods are weaker (recipe for disaster). While it may make a little more tq than a GSR, so much less reliable. Your best bet if u r stuck on the Integra idea would be to find a non-molestered GSR and start from scratch doing it right. Otherwise all u r doing is buying someone else's problem.

No one says you have to rev it to 8K.

[SovXietday]

98-02 camaro cant go wrong with a ls1 car haha

Had one. It was boring.

[92awdtsi]

I'd go with the evo, not only because its a reliable 276hp completely stock, with awd, brembo's etc. Any boosted integra you buy (sorry boosted teg owners) will have the sh*t kicked out of it. Nobody's spends the money to turbo a non turbo car to stay out of boost.. Just doesn't happen. IMO buy something with resale value. Heck worst case scenario, you can still part out a STOCK evo for close to 10 grand. Integra you might make 2

[Domrok]

I'd go with the evo, not only because its a reliable 276hp completely stock, with awd, brembo's etc. Any boosted integra you buy (sorry boosted teg owners) will have the sh*t kicked out of it. Nobody's spends the money to turbo a non turbo car to stay out of boost.. Just doesn't happen. IMO buy something with resale value. Heck worst case scenario, you can still part out a STOCK evo for close to 10 grand. Integra you might make 2

I disagree...that's a very biased opinion. While there are some people who do beat the **** out of their hondas...most boosted owners I know, including myself, baby the hell out theirs and you only see them get on it once in a while to "stretch it's legs". It's kinda like a gun....it's nice to have it and not need it rather than need it and not have it. Not to mention if it's built the mileage on the engine is more than likely very low. I also disagree with your part out comparison...come on $2k? and how is parting out even relevant? I WILL SAY that an EVO would be more practical for being AWD and having 4 doors.

[92awdtsi]

I disagree...that's a very biased opinion. While there are some people who do beat the **** out of their hondas...most boosted owners I know, including myself, baby the hell out theirs and you only see them get on it once in a while to "stretch it's legs". It's kinda like a gun....it's nice to have it and not need it rather than need it and not have it. Not to mention if it's built the mileage on the engine is more than likely very low. I also disagree with your part out comparison...come on $2k? and how is parting out even relevant? I WILL SAY that an EVO would be more practical for being AWD and having 4 doors.

All I'm saying is, you don't take a 140hp car, build it to 350+ just to daily drive it. As for the part out tid bit, that was a worst case scenario. Just for example, Stock Evo hood - $500+ used, Integra hood - $75. The only thing worth anything with an integra would be the motor/trans,+ turbo stuff.. Everything else you can get from a junkyard for next to nothing. (rear disc brakes, shift linkage, motor mounts etc.)

[JSpecV03]

All I'm saying is, you don't take a 140hp car, build it to 350+ just to daily drive it. As for the part out tid bit, that was a worst case scenario. Just for example, Stock Evo hood - $500+ used, Integra hood - $75. The only thing worth anything with an integra would be the motor/trans,+ turbo stuff.. Everything else you can get from a junkyard for next to nothing. (rear disc brakes, shift linkage, motor mounts etc.)

LS engine and stuff from it, yes plenty to go around. gsr or civic si etc alot harder to find in the junk yard. hoods and doors are hit or miss since people at the junk yard tend to just rip and pull and break stuff in their way to get what they want. but yeah i know what you mean, evo parts are going for alot more. but both are in just as much demand.

[92awdtsi]

right im not "hating" on the integra, I used to own and build honda's myself. Just playing devils advocate. :lol:

[JSpecV03]

right im not "hating" on the integra, I used to own and build honda's myself. Just playing devils advocate. :lol:

exactly. its allways good to look at both sides of the spectrum. Alot better to do so before making a decision you might regret.
Geoff you tried looking at any of the public auto auctions? its hit or miss, but you never know.

[1slowteg]

All I'm saying is, you don't take a 140hp car, build it to 350+ just to daily drive it.

I guess I'm from mars then.

[Domrok]

All I'm saying is, you don't take a 140hp car, build it to 350+ just to daily drive it.
I guess I'm from mars then.

Me too haha I totally understand what you're saying but the fact is it's just not true. If he plans on parting the car out when he's done with it then yeah...go evo because a Honda will do that on it's own.

[SJS2k]

http://www.datsunracing.com/other/humor/crankwalk2.jpg

[04srt21]

that white teg is legit. id but it

[Fujito]

I'd buy both and put the Integra into the Evo.

Just saying.

[JSpecV03]

http://www.datsunracing.com/other/humor/crankwalk2.jpg

LOL lov this pic

[tcturbo91]

The 4G63 is bulletproof and more and more high-mileage adult-owned EVO's are popping up on the cheap. I'd go EVO all day.

agree with that statement, i have seen some evos pop on pretty cheap in the past few months with higher mileage but almost stock DD's from the original/second owner. 12k may be tough but i have seen a few for slightly more (13ish).

I have owned a built LS turbo integra, and it was alot of fun. They are very reliable (if built right), and are a cool concept if you want just a "regular" car to DD that also can be pushed if you want to. The Evo is just much more car from the brakes to the stock powerplant, suspension, etc but as stated earlier in this thread a nice built turbo teg is not going to cost you 12-13k like the evo will.