rwd people, what do you do in winter

[soCo]

I searched so hopefully this isn't a repost or else I'll feel retarded...anyway.

What do you do with your cars in your winter?

Drive it

Drive it, but change tires to snow tires

use a winter beater car


I'm looking into getting my first RWD car soon but after this last winter I'm not so sure and am starting to think maybe I should look at an sti or something AWD.

[Antonio]

I drove my z06 with r comps in the snow, lol. not exactly recommended.

But people shouldn't necessarily shy away from RWD in snow. As long as you don't drive stupid, and keep proper safe distances, you should be fine. If you want extra security, sure get a set of snow tires, but that's up to your budget.

[jpalamar]

I drive my GTO in the snow... no issues. Potenza 960AS is the best tire I've ever owned.

[russiankid]

Drive it with all seasons.

[Silverfc88]

Drive the BMW and the RX7 all year. I swap to winter tires around Thanksgiving and just go.

[soCo]

Thanks for the replies so far. I'll probably just end up getting it, I'm looking at a 370z.

People have been 'warning' me about having rwd during the winter, but none of them drive rwd so I figured I'd ask here.

I figured it would only be bad before the snow plows get out.

[djb5118]

my lexus hibernates

[MKIIISUPRA]

Drive it.....very very carefully. Snow tires are a must. I attempted this last winter season w/o (used just normal all season) and nearly died on more than a couple occasions....seriously.

[turboman808]

Keep in mind that prior to 75 people drove RWD cars all the time and drove on ****ty tires.

370z has traction control and if you put on some blizzaks you will be surprised just how well it works. Don't let those with no experience give you their ignorant opinion.

Still it's a shame to see such a beautiful car get used in snow and ice.


But I don't drive my sports cars if there is snow on the ground. I'll take the solstice out but the porsche sits 6 months out of the year.

[sean3]

I drive my moms car if there's snow on the ground. Sticky tires don't work well in the snow. Got stuck in my neighborhood last time I tried.

[soCo]

Keep in mind that prior to 75 people drove RWD cars all the time and drove on ****ty tires.

370z has traction control and if you put on some blizzaks you will be surprised just how well it works. Don't let those with no experience give you their ignorant opinion.

Still it's a shame to see such a beautiful car get used in snow and ice.


But I don't drive my sports cars if there is snow on the ground. I'll take the solstice out but the porsche sits 6 months out of the year.

Good point.

And I saw a youtube video of a guy in a 370z on blizzaks that had no problem at all so thats probably the route i'll take. If I had the space for a winter beater I would, but I would have to rent a garage or something.

[mckpat03]

I drive my moms car if there's snow on the ground. Sticky tires don't work well in the snow. Got stuck in my neighborhood last time I tried.

I'm with him... For the most part. I can't drive my moms car when I'm at school, but I try not to drive. I can barely get it out of the driveway at school. If the snow isn't too bad, I'll take it to the grocery store or to pick up beer. Lack of all seasons or winter tires FTL.

[Antonio]

Don't let people tell you that you can't do it....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeAkazxDXHs

EDIT: what's the code to embed youtube videos?

[MKIIISUPRA]

Good point.

And I saw a youtube video of a guy in a 370z on blizzaks that had no problem at all so thats probably the route i'll take. If I had the space for a winter beater I would, but I would have to rent a garage or something.

^Good point? Prior to 75 there was a FRACTION of the amount of idiot drivers out there. Not to mention little to no super highways of today where people think the speed minimum is 75-80mph. Today you need control on demand because everyone driving in the snow thinks they'll 'be okay' until it happens to them.

i don't care if your tires are $1000 a piece just for the snow and have traction control with your blinkers on, ice is ice and one slip up and you could be nothing more than a memory. And don't forget, its not just YOUR car you have to worry about, it's every moron around you that may NOT have traction control or winter tires and thought it would be cool to disconnect and remove the ABS for that extra few feet of stopping power (no not in regards to the ABS comment). Its those cruising 60-70 MPH in the first big storm I saw this season on 68 in MD passing me going 20mph, that will get you in trouble. Don't forget that.

[turboman808]

Good point.

And I saw a youtube video of a guy in a 370z on blizzaks that had no problem at all so thats probably the route i'll take. If I had the space for a winter beater I would, but I would have to rent a garage or something.

Yeah I don't have a house yet so I have to rent a garage.

^Good point? Prior to 75 there was a FRACTION of the amount of idiot drivers out there. Not to mention little to no super highways of today where people think the speed minimum is 75-80mph. Today you need control on demand because everyone driving in the snow thinks they'll 'be okay' until it happens to them.

i don't care if your tires are $1000 a piece just for the snow and have traction control with your blinkers on, ice is ice and one slip up and you could be nothing more than a memory. And don't forget, its not just YOUR car you have to worry about, it's every moron around you that may NOT have traction control or winter tires and thought it would be cool to disconnect and remove the ABS for that extra few feet of stopping power (no not in regards to the ABS comment). Its those cruising 60-70 MPH in the first big storm I saw this season on 68 in MD passing me going 20mph, that will get you in trouble. Don't forget that.

This has nothing to do with the topic.

[i_ride_fieroGT]

This past sno season is the reason i got rid of my 4th gen firebird and bought a wrangler. So now i just pop it into 4WD and go. But i used to put sandbags ion the back of my firebird for the snow. Not like it did much for it. I tried chains's.. Bird dident like chanin's and shot them right off. Only RWD i can stand in the snow is a midengine car. My fiero's do ok in the snow for a sport's car but now i have the wrangler.
Not to mention mudder tire's FTW. 1st snow storm we get im patting down the snow on my street so my neighbor's cant get out

[russiankid]

A Fiero is a sports car? And if you know how to drive, rwd is fine in the snow.

[jpalamar]

This past sno season is the reason i got rid of my 4th gen firebird and bought a wrangler. So now i just pop it into 4WD and go. But i used to put sandbags ion the back of my firebird for the snow. Not like it did much for it. I tried chains's.. Bird dident like chanin's and shot them right off. Only RWD i can stand in the snow is a midengine car. My fiero's do ok in the snow for a sport's car but now i have the wrangler.

Didn't you just buy the Wrangle a few weeks ago? I don't see how you can posts in this about using it in the snow when you haven't yet.

And LOL on the sports car too.

[soCo]

^Good point? Prior to 75 there was a FRACTION of the amount of idiot drivers out there. Not to mention little to no super highways of today where people think the speed minimum is 75-80mph. Today you need control on demand because everyone driving in the snow thinks they'll 'be okay' until it happens to them.

i don't care if your tires are $1000 a piece just for the snow and have traction control with your blinkers on, ice is ice and one slip up and you could be nothing more than a memory. And don't forget, its not just YOUR car you have to worry about, it's every moron around you that may NOT have traction control or winter tires and thought it would be cool to disconnect and remove the ABS for that extra few feet of stopping power (no not in regards to the ABS comment). Its those cruising 60-70 MPH in the first big storm I saw this season on 68 in MD passing me going 20mph, that will get you in trouble. Don't forget that.

I mean, that all could happen with any type of car though. If your acting like an idiot in snow/ice then stuff is bound to happen.

I'm a pretty cautious driver as is especially in the snow, had people passing me on 95 last season during the snow and I have FWD now.

If I do end up getting the Z I would be switching out the tires during the winter.

[i_ride_fieroGT]

Didn't you just buy the Wrangle a few weeks ago? I don't see how you can posts in this about using it in the snow when you haven't yet.

And LOL on the sports car too.



No i havent used it in the snow yeat but i have used a grand wagoneer in the snow same drivetrain just diffrent engine.. Same concept. A little Common sence goes a long way. Have 4WD use it in the snow Not like im going to go 2WD through 1 foot deep snow.

And you can ask my Ins company what the fiero is classifyed as... Yup a sport's car. There not the 4 cylinder model's.

[soCo]

Heres the video I saw earlier...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jzn8_9vJMc

[MKIIISUPRA]

[refer to post 19]

^true but unfortunately with a RWD car vs. FWD/AWD/4x4 loss of control is just more likely to happen so skimping on tires or anything to help should be stressed as a 'don't do'

[thefro526]

I drive my cars in the snow, I've never owned anything that's not RWD, though I've driven FWD cars in the snow.

IMO, I like RWD in the snow, as long as there's not more than 2-3 inches of snow on the ground, because my car likes to turn into a snow plow.

[supraghost]

i prefer rwd in the snow. if the front end isnt steering the car, i can use the back end to steer it:lol:

get snow tires to prevent from getting stuck if it snows a lot where you live. get a beater if you really care about your rwd car. even if you are a good driver, there are lots of people out there that dont know how to drive in the snow. they will use your baby to stop their car.

[PAFirefighter11]

I engage my 4WD ;-)

[i_ride_fieroGT]

The only advantage RWD has in the snow is your counter steering is a lot more efficicent in a RWD car compared to a FWD or AWD Because your not getting any torque steer from the FWD drivetrain. Thus your able to correct without any power to the front wheels to screw you up.

[Subie_sleeper]

A decent set of winter tires makes all the difference in the world on ANY drive setup.

I run Dunlop Wintersport M3 winter tires on my Subie, the extra stopping and cornering benefits are worth it to me. Braking only improves a little depending on the type of snow/ice the storm is producing.

FWD layouts can get by pretty well in most snow & ice situations with a decent set of all seasons with little to no issues. Snow tires make a MUCH bigger difference in getting moving from a stanting start & on hills. It's pretty much the same reduced steering and stopping.

RWD layouts are a bit tougher to give a clear answer. 4X2 pickups can just haul around a lot of weight in the bed. While some rear drivers have limited trunk space for extra weight. A high power rear driver with most of the weight on the front end and no extra weight in the back will struggle in serious snow & ice, sometimes even when dedicated winter tires are used... depending on the type of snow and ice and how much there is.

MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL...... know your cars limits (go to a empty lot if possible and see how it starts, steers and STOPS) & remember slow down when the streets get bad.

[Chris B.]

I have a spare set of wheels and snow tires I use in the winter. I haven't had an issue the past two winters when I had snow tires on my car.

What do you think people did 30 years ago when most cars were still RWD? They got snow tires or they didn't drive.

[turboman808]

This past sno season is the reason i got rid of my 4th gen firebird and bought a wrangler. So now i just pop it into 4WD and go.

Why would you think a jeep is gonna be better? It's really not. Great for off roading, death trap on an icy highway. Give me a honda civic with some rally tires for snow driving any day.

I prefer FWD to AWD for snow. Not saying it's better but I seem to be able to keep the car under control better with power to just the front wheels. I feel the front breaking loose and I just counter and power and it straightens itself out. AWD I seem to make things worse. LOL

RWD is doable. Again the 370z is an awesome car. If I could only have one car I wouldn't mind taking it. You just have to take it easy and have the best winter tires.

[i_ride_fieroGT]

Why would you think a jeep is gonna be better? It's really not. Great for off roading, death trap on an icy highway. Give me a honda civic with some rally tires for snow driving any day.



4WD heavyer safer and as long as its properley equipted it will do fine. As long as your not driving like a bafoon the jeep will get you anywhere in any kind of weather condition's.

[turboman808]

4WD heavyer safer and as long as its properley equipted it will do fine. As long as your not driving like a bafoon the jeep will get you anywhere in any kind of weather condition's.

If your driving off road then yes. On highways and back country roads they are dangerous unless you drive slowly. I will be behind you honking. :lol:

[DelayedZ]

When I can actually get out of my driveway I drive it, I had some difficulty this year, I was stuck on like an ice patch, and it just refused to budge, even rocking it, and everything.

[got_tint?]

RWD is a tad bit tricky to get a hang of, even in the rain, let alone snow, but is still really fun to drive....

Just make sure to get winter tires!!!!

-Gabe

[Honest_Bob]

I stay at home.

Working for school district + snow days = no snow driving. :)

I used to like driving in the snow with my WRX until a close call with a triaxle dump truck that did a 360 in front of me. Screw that.

[russiankid]

4WD heavyer safer and as long as its properley equipted it will do fine. As long as your not driving like a bafoon the jeep will get you anywhere in any kind of weather condition's.

Since when is heavier safer? Dude, my Honda will out stop my BMW which is a tank. The BMW just slides in the snow if I jam on the brakes vs my Honda digs in and comes to a stop. Once a heavy car loses traction, you are in for a fight. Light cars such as Civics are easier to control in the snow just because of their weight. As for control, yank the E-brake in a FWD car and give it gas. It will hug that corner without losing control where as a RWD car you can't expect to give it gas and it will just pull out of the slide, you have to counter steering and hope for the best.

[92accordex]

Throw chains on your tires like the mail people do:)

[ndubz]

Keep in mind that prior to 75 people drove RWD cars all the time and drove on ****ty tires.

370z has traction control and if you put on some blizzaks you will be surprised just how well it works. Don't let those with no experience give you their ignorant opinion.

Still it's a shame to see such a beautiful car get used in snow and ice.


But I don't drive my sports cars if there is snow on the ground. I'll take the solstice out but the porsche sits 6 months out of the year.

ok then. here it goes.

OMG bro if u try and drive a Z in the snow u will most certainly DIE SOWLY AND BURN......in snow?......yea **** it whatever.

On the real, u'll be fine in the Z if ur careful and know how to handle some slides.

However, as a subie guy i am required BY LAW, to tell u that if ur worried about the snow, buy and STi. basically it turns a huge blizzard from a disaster where ur stuck inside or have to really worry on the roads into a situation much like the first time u were taken to Romperound as a kid. U will have SO MUCH FUN, cuz while everyone else is being all careful and gay, u get to just drift around them like ur the former Ken Block......****, this winter I A-Rab drfited around a bus at school...just cuz i can. And I got hella angle in front of the student center and received a large ovation from everyone who was there. A subaru trounces any sort of fun u had in the snow as a kid. So when the wether man is saying record snowfall, and everyone else is canceling their lives, u can go have ur fun. Its worth it.

(PS: i go to school in Mexico, and definitely NOT anywhere in NJ, especially not in New Brunswick.....**** ive never even heard of New Brunswick before now)

[ndubz]

I stay at home.

Working for school district + snow days = no snow driving. :)

I used to like driving in the snow with my WRX until a close call with a triaxle dump truck that did a 360 in front of me. Screw that.

u should A-Rab drifted around his ass....... o wait, u would've still been waiting for spool lol :mrgreen:

and when I say A-Rab drifting I of course mean this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SujyUJVgYYU

[ndubz]

A decent set of winter tires makes all the difference in the world on ANY drive setup.

I run Dunlop Wintersport M3 winter tires on my Subie, the extra stopping and cornering benefits are worth it to me. Braking only improves a little depending on the type of snow/ice the storm is producing.

FWD layouts can get by pretty well in most snow & ice situations with a decent set of all seasons with little to no issues. Snow tires make a MUCH bigger difference in getting moving from a stanting start & on hills. It's pretty much the same reduced steering and stopping.

RWD layouts are a bit tougher to give a clear answer. 4X2 pickups can just haul around a lot of weight in the bed. While some rear drivers have limited trunk space for extra weight. A high power rear driver with most of the weight on the front end and no extra weight in the back will struggle in serious snow & ice, sometimes even when dedicated winter tires are used... depending on the type of snow and ice and how much there is.

MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL...... know your cars limits (go to a empty lot if possible and see how it starts, steers and STOPS) & remember slow down when the streets get bad.

Rob, u and I both know that is far from the only thing that happens in empty lots in snow. be honest with him lol. :thumbup:

[CleanNeon98]

Throw a cover on it and borrow my mom's car when weather calls for it..I got no problem driving in winter, just no snow.

[Foolinaround]

i wonder how mr2's do in the snow,dpan?

[russiankid]

ok then. here it goes.

OMG bro if u try and drive a Z in the snow u will most certainly DIE SOWLY AND BURN......in snow?......yea **** it whatever.

On the real, u'll be fine in the Z if ur careful and know how to handle some slides.

However, as a subie guy i am required BY LAW, to tell u that if ur worried about the snow, buy and STi. basically it turns a huge blizzard from a disaster where ur stuck inside or have to really worry on the roads into a situation much like the first time u were taken to Romperound as a kid. U will have SO MUCH FUN, cuz while everyone else is being all careful and gay, u get to just drift around them like ur the former Ken Block......****, this winter I A-Rab drfited around a bus at school...just cuz i can. And I got hella angle in front of the student center and received a large ovation from everyone who was there. A subaru trounces any sort of fun u had in the snow as a kid. So when the wether man is saying record snowfall, and everyone else is canceling their lives, u can go have ur fun. Its worth it.

(PS: i go to school in Mexico, and definitely NOT anywhere in NJ, especially not in New Brunswick.....**** ive never even heard of New Brunswick before now)

Because obviously an STi is god of snow. If this guy wants to have a Z, and is worried about snow, why in the hell would he also go buy an STi(or just getting an STi while wanting a Z)? How about picking up an older Impreza or something along those lines...I mean they are AWD. And drifting around people? Are you really a moron or pretending to be? No wait, I know, you are, because I remember you blowing by a group of cars on a public road trying to be cool. AWD will help you control the car and will help if and when it gets stuck. However, AWD does not help you in braking.

You drifted around a school bus? And got a cool angle in front of kids? Dude...get the **** off the road.

[Rush]

I have a G35 Coupe, and drove it in the snow last year with a set of winter wheels (18" OEM Z wheels) and snow tires (Dunlop SP Winter Sport M3). While I was absolutely petrified -- I'd had a bad accident in snow the winter before which totaled out my old car, which resulted in hyper-protectiveness of the new car -- my G was excellent. I actually found I was able to control it better with the traction control turned OFF, since I didn't have some extra system interfering with how I was feeling and handling the car.

However, I also took the opportunity to drive my BF's Del Sol whenever possible .. especially when those crazy snowstorms showed up.

To be honest, I'd recommend getting a beater. While RWD does just fine in snow -- if you're as guarded about your 'good' car as I am, and if you have as little faith in the rest of the driving world as I do, it's not worth the risk.

EDIT: Also take into consideration that last winter was an absolute FREAK of a season. That much snow is nowhere CLOSE to normal. The average annual Philly snowfall per winter is 20.5 inches, based on 60 years of data -- we probably won't see the amount of snow we just had in a single winter for another 50 years, probably longer.

[Rapture]

4WD/AWD = Invincibilibty! Duh!

On a more serious note, snow tires and basic common sense/caution are your friend. Also, russiankid, I'm pretty sure ndubz was kidding. The "ok then, here it goes." is kind of a give away...

[Khellen]

ok then. here it goes.

OMG bro if u try and drive a Z in the snow u will most certainly DIE SOWLY AND BURN......in snow?......yea **** it whatever.

On the real, u'll be fine in the Z if ur careful and know how to handle some slides.

However, as a subie guy i am required BY LAW, to tell u that if ur worried about the snow, buy and STi. basically it turns a huge blizzard from a disaster where ur stuck inside or have to really worry on the roads into a situation much like the first time u were taken to Romperound as a kid. U will have SO MUCH FUN, cuz while everyone else is being all careful and gay, u get to just drift around them like ur the former Ken Block......****, this winter I A-Rab drfited around a bus at school...just cuz i can. And I got hella angle in front of the student center and received a large ovation from everyone who was there. A subaru trounces any sort of fun u had in the snow as a kid. So when the wether man is saying record snowfall, and everyone else is canceling their lives, u can go have ur fun. Its worth it.

(PS: i go to school in Mexico, and definitely NOT anywhere in NJ, especially not in New Brunswick.....**** ive never even heard of New Brunswick before now)

You have reaffirmed my stance on pro choice with this post.

Anyways, my first car before my Subaru was an 86 RWD camaro...no posi. I never once got stuck but definitely had some scary situations. It all comes down to tires with RWD and not driving like an idiot. Another thing everyone chose to ignore is....how far is your commute? If you only live 30 minutes from where you're commuting....that's not bad. If your drive is much farther then that...not sure I'd want to commute a RWD car an hour and a half through a snow storm. Thats just my opinion though.

[OBEEWON]

I drive my winter beater, a RWD car with summer tires...bald summer tires.

[sean3]

4WD/AWD = Invincibilibty! Duh!

On a more serious note, snow tires and basic common sense/caution are your friend. Also, russiankid, I'm pretty sure ndubz was kidding. The "ok then, here it goes." is kind of a give away...

You must be new here. Ndubz doesn't kid.

[devildog214]

you should be fine, the last big snowstorm i didnt drive the first day and was out the next. And this is with no abs, t/c, rear drum brakes. Leave big stopping distances, turn slowly, etc.

[Rotary Knight]

switch to snow tires and I am good throughout the winter.
Of course, snow building up in the middle isnt doing much for my presilencer.....

[SJS2k]

I drove in snow in the s2k and did it in my 3rd gen supra as well, on all season tires too and it's fine you just can't be a dumbass about it.

[gunztone]

i drove my 350z this past winter and it was just fine with sandbags and my brigestone blizzaks. i just drove with caution and it got me from point A to point B. this year i plan to get a winter beater because the snow and ice scratched the car up pretty good.

[SleeperGoat]

When i had my 350z i drove it in the snow with all seasons on it no problem as long as you dont try to rush around. I dont have snow tires for the GTO it was a mess in anything more then an inch.

[cbirgl]

I drive my RWD (no 4wd) 91 nissan pickup for winter. It is 100000x better than my 02 GTI fwd in the snow. A big thing to help is tires. Not only the tread, but the width of the tires make a huge difference. My truck has something like 165/70r14's on it and there is no chance of snow/rain causing the tire to lift off the ground. Skinny tires will always cut through better. Throttle control is the other trick, especially if the vehicle has more power. The other problem with most RWD cars is the lack of weight in the rear.

[92sileighty]

i take the bike out

[98GSXdude]

I garaged my Z for the winter and picked up a 240SX for a beater. Rwd is fun year-round.

[jspek]

put good snow tires on it. my first 240 with a vlsd was a beast in the snow. ask tehdirt about that night he got stuck 10 times and i didnt. this last winter i didnt go out in more than 3 inches of snow since i was slammed and didnt have snow tires. still it wasnt a problem. just dont drive like a jackass.

[Honest_Bob]

u should A-Rab drifted around his ass....... o wait, u would've still been waiting for spool lol :mrgreen:

and when I say A-Rab drifting I of course mean this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SujyUJVgYYU

Silly ndubz, you dont need any boost to drift in the snow. :-p

I would love to see someone try to drift around this beast on a 2 lane highway in the snow. I almost **** my pants watching it spin around.
http://www.industrialfinanceinc.net/images/Sales/IFI-0001/IFI-0001-1.jpg

[i_ride_fieroGT]

Because obviously an STi is god of snow. If this guy wants to have a Z, and is worried about snow, why in the hell would he also go buy an STi(or just getting an STi while wanting a Z)? How about picking up an older Impreza or something along those lines...I mean they are AWD. And drifting around people? Are you really a moron or pretending to be? No wait, I know, you are, because I remember you blowing by a group of cars on a public road trying to be cool. AWD will help you control the car and will help if and when it gets stuck. However, AWD does not help you in braking.

You drifted around a school bus? And got a cool angle in front of kids? Dude...get the **** off the road.



I wouldent say there god in the snow. On and unplowed street anything more than 4 Inches and its going to be a very ineffective snow plow.

[fitftw]

In winter I will buy new all-seasons for the OEM wheels. I don't do snow tires. Ever.

[tr4c3]

Drove turbo rx7 and a handful of 240s in every winter since I've had a license/permit. All on either bad or all season tires. The rx7 was pretty fun, snow was up to the bottom of the windows. It's really not that bad, I guess it also depends on where you live and how your roads are. I learned to drive with rwd so I've been very familiar/comfortable with it. Just take your time if you feel uncomfortable about some roads and you'll be ok. I want to state now I did not read the thread after post 2 lol.

[Subie_sleeper]

Russiankid, I'm 99% sure that Dubzy meant he drifted around a PARKED schoolbus. If in fact it was occupied & on school property he'd most likely have been in deep isht with the law. ;)
My YouTube snow video was recorded in a school lot...... It was on Sunday though. :mrgreen:
Back on topic, OP, if you're gonna rock a rear drive sports car in the snow, get a winter tire & wheel package. Don't go cheap on the rubber. I like nokians for the best snow & ice traction & dunlops for a snow tire with the best dry an wet handleing. In the case of a rear drive car I'd go with nokians or blizzaks (a little cheaper) there's also a Finnish tire manufacturer called vredstein that makes a few bad ass snow tires.
Of possible , do a minus size fitment too. A smaller narrower rim with the correct diameter tire will help in snow & ice. At least you have quite a few months to decide what you're gonna do.
Good luck.

[fitftw]

Blizzaks...or any snow tire...on a RWD car...is negative fun. Seriously, going from taking onramps at 70mph on Star Specs, to 30mph on Blizzaks. Are you ****ing serious? No thanks. All-seasons will do JUST FINE in the tri-state winters that see maybe 3 days of snow on the streets before being plowed away within HOURS.

[Rush]

^^ I'll sacrifice a little fun by using snow tires on my car for 3 months out of the year, rather than worry about my car sliding into a ditch. For me, the safety of my car outranks my need to have a smashing (har-har, pun intended) good time in the winter. But that's personal preference, and a decision the OP will have to make for himself.

[redtoprps13]

Drive it.....very very carefully. Snow tires are a must. I attempted this last winter season w/o (used just normal all season) and nearly died on more than a couple occasions....seriously.

you still in morgantown? i used to see you driving around all of the time.

and i drive my lowered 240 all year round even in morgantown winters with no issues...even in that blizzard we had in 2007...

[streetsistalkin]

last winter i drove my 240 everywhere, anytime. I had snow tires but they were nothin special, and usually always pretty worn. Took it thru 6 inches unplowed snow, and a foot with little plowing. Slide, slide everywhere.

oh yea and 235-45-17 non snow tires up front, kept the front wheels sticking

[djb5118]

^^ I'll sacrifice a little fun by using snow tires on my car for 3 months out of the year, rather than worry about my car sliding into a ditch. For me, the safety of my car outranks my need to have a smashing (har-har, pun intended) good time in the winter. But that's personal preference, and a decision the OP will have to make for himself.

i agree with this. id rather have a car come out of a winter in one piece than worry about how fast im taking an off ramp.

[sean3]

Blizzaks...or any snow tire...on a RWD car...is negative fun. Seriously, going from taking onramps at 70mph on Star Specs, to 30mph on Blizzaks. Are you ****ing serious? No thanks. All-seasons will do JUST FINE in the tri-state winters that see maybe 3 days of snow on the streets before being plowed away within HOURS.

Uh... plowed away within hours? The roads were a mess for days here last winter.

[disturbedfan121]

yea man this past winter i didn't even get plowed out for 3 days

[fitftw]

3 days? That's a little crazy. I would just not drive. School was cancelled one of those days for me, and I don't currently have a job so maybe that's why I didn't care. Still, I'm not putting snow tires on my car. I drove an S2000 on Blizzaks and wanted to drive off a cliff. You do not, put snow tires, on RWD sports cars.

You know what you ****ing do? If you ****ing love your car, you go to www.tirerack.com and you ****ing buy a set of cheap-ass AWESOME Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position all-seasons. At least you won't be making your car feel like a ****ing bag of ASSHOLE.

Have fun, Rush, with your G35 on Blizzaks. You do whatever you want. I am not putting my car, and moreso MYSELF, through that ****ing pain.

Why buy snow tires when it snows 5-10 days out of the year? Seriously. Why? I want a good ****ing reason.

[SleeperGoat]

3 days? That's a little crazy. I would just not drive. School was cancelled one of those days for me, and I don't currently have a job so maybe that's why I didn't care. Still, I'm not putting snow tires on my car. I drove an S2000 on Blizzaks and wanted to drive off a cliff. You do not, put snow tires, on RWD sports cars.

You know what you ****ing do? If you ****ing love your car, you go to www.tirerack.com and you ****ing buy a set of cheap-ass AWESOME Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position all-seasons. At least you won't be making your car feel like a ****ing bag of ASSHOLE.

Have fun, Rush, with your G35 on Blizzaks. You do whatever you want. I am not putting my car, and moreso MYSELF, through that ****ing pain.

Why buy snow tires when it snows 5-10 days out of the year? Seriously. Why? I want a good ****ing reason.

your car produces little to no tq you could put bicycle tires on that thing an be fine. Safest bet in a 370z is snow tires why take the chance.

[fitftw]

^ torque is not an excuse. That proves a lack of SKILL. Learn to feather the throttle, modulate the brakes correctly and efficiently, and not be like 99.9% of American drivers who brake hard&late and floor it from every stop. If you need snow tires on a RWD car, you're simply lazy and refuse to master your vehicle. Plain and simple truth. There are some all-seasons, like the RE960AS, that are equal or better than most snow tires. So whatever.

[Antonio]

if you are going to buy tires for a specific purpose, don't buy tires that are mediocre across the board. All seasons are fine on daily drivers, etc.... If you ask me, if you want tires for the winter only, BUY WINTER ONLY TIRES, not all seasons. If you want to buy some tires to have fun in the summer or at the track, BUY RADIALS OR OTHER KINDS OF SUMMER ONLY TIRES, not all seasons. An all season tire will not match a summer tire in the summer, or a winter tire in snow. Period. If you're going to spend cash for separate tires than your everyday rubber, don't go half ass and get ordinary all seasons.

[Antonio]

torque is a bit of an issue, but it can be controlled with practice. Starting in 2nd or 3rd gear from a stop, letting the clutch out smoothly and letting the motor's idle pull you from a stop rather than giving it gas. If your car has traction control, depending on the conditions, it may be easier to turn it off just to get moving, and turn it back on once you've moved a bit. Most manufacturers actually say that in snowy conditions you should turn it off to rock the vehicle if stuck, or to start from a stop on a slippery surface.

[i_ride_fieroGT]

^ torque is not an excuse. That proves a lack of SKILL. Learn to feather the throttle, modulate the brakes correctly and efficiently, and not be like 99.9% of American drivers who brake hard&late and floor it from every stop. If you need snow tires on a RWD car, you're simply lazy and refuse to master your vehicle. Plain and simple truth. There are some all-seasons, like the RE960AS, that are equal or better than most snow tires. So whatever.

Torque has everything to do with it. Your car for a 2 seater is a very well proportioned with the weight distributed very evenley. your driving skill has a lot to do with it to but for cars like my old firebird and his GTO trans am's camaro's corvettets mustang's ETC with very poor weight distribution its a lot of trouble getting the car out of the spot its parked in with deep enough snow.

[Antonio]

actually, even weight distribution would hurt a rwd car. In slippery conditions you WANT more weight over the drive wheels. Corvettes believe it or not are close to even, about 48/52 and it make take skill, but it can be done.